Croquemitaine

@Croquemitaine

CodezVII #wingnut #ufo #magick #conspiracy

THEY HAVE TAKEN FAR FAR LONGER THAN EVER WAS EXPECTED

Yeah, 2k years at least. That's bound to happen when waiting for the implausible. Even more likely when listening to contemporary disinformators, like "Q".

THE EARTH ALLIANCE WORKING FOR THE ASCENSION OF EARTH ON BEHALF OF THE GALACTIC FEDERATION

Or when confusing science fiction and reality.

THE REAL DONALD TRUMP IS THE IDENTITY CHOSEN BY ARCHANGEL URIEL

Why would an unethical criminal be chosen? Why can't your angel speak, only crackpots? Why does the alleged angel need stupid humans for its plans? What's your scriptural basis for that Uriel dogma anyway? Why would an angel of "wisdom" and "knowledge" chose the stupid ignorants and liars? You realize that mentions are only in apocrypha?

Extremist personality cult for fascism.

Andrew Anglin #conspiracy #homophobia #pratt

Andrew Anglin is a stupid fake. That nazi will tell you that he cares about freedom, but in reality, he constantly promotes hate speech about everyone, advocating for their murder. He also has strange sadistic obsessions and projects it on the world. He worships criminals. He's one himself.

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Bennett Lee Ross #crackpot #magick #pratt #conspiracy

Hahaha... well, many museums admit that they have cast copies. It can be duplicated, it preserves well without a special environment, can restore missing fragments, is less costly than losing the original in case of theft or incident. It doesn't mean that it's based on an imaginary bone and that we've never discoverered dinosaur fossils. That's you trying to live in an imaginary world, as usual. And there's as much evidence proving that you're a crackpot, than there is showing that dinosaurs existed.

The Faeries via Nicky Hamid #magick #ufo

my friend, the littlest faerie, comes to me, sits on my shoulder, and in her ephemeral trill talks to me and shows me the magic.

[...]

I suddenly wake to a loud COAAAA breaking my ear. I hurt my neck. Damn parrot! Harrrr! Yo-ho-ho, and a bottle of rum! For the neck pain. Oooh, little pink pigs... and the Kraken!

Jesse Lee Peterson #sexist

The toxic pseudointellectual minimization and normalization of harm, rape and crime.

various commenters #transphobia #conspiracy

As if "other", intersex conditions, transgenderism, were invented by someone at some point, rather than just existing in the world. As if assignment at birth was inerrant.

"Gender Ideology was invented on YYYY by Insert Name. The cult quickly grew to worldwide proportions, thanks to a systemic indoctrination program trying to convince children, as young as possible, that they should be of another gender. Their eschatology rests on mass mutilation to end all human reproduction and usher Homo Sapiens Sapiens extinction, for the establishment of the next race, Trans-homo Sapiens."

Well, tragically, some people really promote bigotry and malicious libel using such arguments, even if the above was parody of that idiocy. It also deserves an extra note: vaginoplasty is not mutilation and not all transgender women, that always was a minority, seek complete transition. Not oppressing and denying them is not indoctrination.

In a way, this post could be said to be promoting binary gender fundamentalism, pushing conspiracy theories to misconstrue the human right to be non-binary-conforming, as anything but.

I suggest #conspiracy

Ken Ham #fundie

Did you know that creationists and evolutionists have the same facts? Christians and non-Christians have the same facts?

Both exist in the real world, but some mentally live in an imaginary world, while others attempt to reconcile their view with knowledge, discoveries made about the world.

one’s interpretation depends on one’s worldview. And one’s worldview depends on the presuppositions they have.

False equivalence fallacy. One's world view may be influenced by actual facts discovered about the world. Opinions are not all equal or as informed.

Ultimately, there are only two foundations our worldviews, God’s Word or man’s word.

Projection fallacy and denial that your doctrines are of human origin, plus the denial that we have discovered some actual facts about the world by observation, those are not human inventions. Ignorance and selective blindness.

That’s why at the debate I had with Bill Nye in 2014 at the @CreationMuseum, it was important for me to help people understand that no matter what “facts” I threw at Bill Nye, he would just reinterpret them within his worldview based on his foundation of man’s word.

It was not a debate, it was a propaganda show for your indoctrinated audience. Noone without a conflict of interest support your conclusions that completely disregarded anything Nye said as you falsely declared "victory" (well, it was successful as an affirmation show for the followers). Nye, by accepting to play the game, allowed you to pretend that you are equivalent to a pop science educator, which you are not (also why you still cite old events today). You don't learn about evolution and how it works during a short show. You need to read on the topic from a reputable source, instead of dismissing it because you do not like it. If you need more than words, trees and databases, you need to do some field or lab work, or both. Some people spend their lives doing this, finding it extremely rewarding. Science has strong foundations. It's also universal, not a cult.

Many people commented how this approach (which is a big emphasis of the @AiG ministry) really helped them understand the true nature of the creation/evolution debate—it’s a debate about different worldviews based on different foundations (presuppositions).

Like my explanation above. Not really a debate. Your presupposition is an a-priori conclusion based on false premises, that's not how science works. Evolution is not controversial in science. It's only disliked by those who are motivated to reject knowledge about our origins, for religious or manipulative reasons. Because of that, not all religious people reject science either. Dogma such as YEC or DAC only persist in some sects. Their scriptural basis itself is easily shown to be conflicted, like the texts that are selected and consulted, their origin and their interpretations.

pmarreck #pratt #fundie

The way I understand it, the OP's stance would be within metaphysical idealism and mysticism, magical thinking, reality denial, etc. Do I assert that "materialism" is "reality"? I'm not exactly a physicalist. But I've experienced what it is to be lost in metaphysical idealism and endless circular pseudointellectual philosophy. And to suddenly discover why the scientific method allowed to transcend philosophy on all aspects. By dedicating itself to testing what is real and by dealing with common human fallacies. It's obvious that human brains are unreliable, that ancient mythology was nonsense, but can be understood in the context of the people who wrote and disseminated it. That some universal effort is required to go further and beyond human nature, to a point where that nature itself can be explored. Science is just that...

Humans are indeed irrational and exploitators know that. This sounds just like what they want you to swallow. It also appears to be compatible with chaos and flooding the zone with shit. It's easier to manipulate confused people. True education is dangerous for fascists, for the same reason. Why do I say true education? To contrast it with misleading indoctrination, attempts to dictate, including what "nature" should be, instead of learning what it is. It makes all the difference between "we can never know anything and everything is subjective opinion" and actual knowledge discovery and reality assessment.

I'm actually of a "spiritual" nature who eventually came to what I consider an acceptable understanding of the experiences that I lived, that at the same time confirms why my delusions of grandeur never led to my ideals. That actual work in the world was required to achieve results, not imaginary games and magic. I can enjoy deep irrational experiences as anyone else, learning about science didn't turn me into some robot. I play and enjoy mystic music, for instance.

Just last week, something that doesn't occur to me as often as I would like did: a short sleep paralysis episode. But by the time I was lucid enough to detect it, when I tried to trigger an OOBE experience from it, I just was completely awaken before it worked.

Finally, because humans are irrational is no reason to retrograde society to the ideals of ignorant people or to accept the abuses of stupid narcissists. Ethics and human rights can still be improved. Afterall, it also protects the freedoms of the fantasists against such abuses. And if you're adapting this to crime and forensics, I'm an example of someone who changed his opinions on many things. Can an old state of myself be described as "my nature" am I simply a result of "programming"? Are some "programs" harmful to society is a more interesting question, perhaps, when put in context. Acknowledging change is still different to denying responsibility for one's past actions... Then is justice really torture, or is "torture" an argument for persecution complex? Torture exists but tends to be prevalent where human rights records are poor in general.

Mike Stone #wingnut #racist #sexist #conspiracy

various commenters #transphobia

I'll just link another comment of mine expressing my assessment of TERF misandrism: https://fstdt.com/8284#207066

Also, don't "radical feminists" want the US to finally have a woman as president, for the very first time? It's about time, isn't it? How ironic. You've missed the boat.

Also, it's difficult for me to evaluate, because I don't visit and directly analyse that site. But I always wonder how many of those accounts could be political interference trolls, foreign and domestic. FSTDT samples alone cannot really assess that.

Mike Stone #wingnut #racist #sexist #conspiracy

Louis Bonnet #sexist

It reminds me of incel claims that rape is harmless if the person is unconcious. As if it wasn't impossible that the person knew but was chilled by fear. As if drugs had no risks. As if there was no problem with drugging someone against their will. As if there were no risks like STDs and physical injuries resulting from the abuse, in circumstances the victim has no control. As if violating the dignity of the person was no problem. WTF, indeed.

Mayor apparently wants to protect the reputation of the village, but world outrage results. It reminds me of churches, although I admit that this is a false equivalence.

Sometimes it's better not to say anything...

Karl Denninger and Ann Barnhardt #crackpot #conspiracy #fundie #wingnut #psycho

Ann Barnhardt #racist #fundie

Ann Barnhardt #fundie #wingnut #conspiracy

Ann Barnhardt #fundie #conspiracy

Ann Barnhardt #conspiracy #homophobia

Medeea Greere #quack #conspiracy

The snake said to Eve: do not believe what Big Pharma says, they fear that if you have of the forbidden Borax, you become as powerful as they are! A god!

So, is this another QAnon cult purity test? Accepting to drink bleach and borax solutions? Do med beds come with a tube for the koolaid?

Start by dissolving ⅛ teaspoon of borax in 1 liter of water

Then continue with additional Our Fathers while doubling the dose, each day?

AVelarde #fundie

Margaret #fundie

E. Kitty Glendower #fundie

Transphobic patriarchy ideological word redefinition project. When reality is too hard to accept, even pseudoscientific arguments are entertained to deny it. The ideology dictates norms violating what exists in reality, to advocate for the oppression and suppression of elements it claims should be irrationally feared and demonized. If that's a TERF, it's a red herring. Feminism is not supposed to be penis hate and the oppression of minorities, a radicalization that tricks women back into segregation and patriarchy ideals.

seekmosttoprophesy #fundie

Denial, straw men, ignorance and falsehoods. Who's the father of lies and deception?

Edit/Adding:
Interesting hypothesis by David B. Other possibilities:
- Intentful waste of time or parody, or a hope to short circuit the brains of the sane and intellectuals. The locust claim may support this.
- Insanity (the additional quote by Frogflayer may be evidence), one of the forms could be delusions viewing mathematics as a holy fundamental of the universe (idealism) instead of the convenient language invented by humans, then using a magical doctrine of the world to coerce their pseudoreality in.
- Confused about computer simulations or genetic algorithms. The former can be used to simulate biological evolution at a small scale, the latter can be inspired from working evolutionary principles such as modification and selection with a fitness evaluation system, but rarely are related to biological evolution, it's more practical engineering for technology.
- Confusion about the common claims made about the evolution of computing power in time, something that has nothing to do with biology.

Then, there's evidence of ancient water, for instance oil resulted from the decomposed layers of organisms like zooplankton and algae. But those seas date way before humans. With the geological evidence that there was no global flood since humans appeared, it is reasonable to understand that if flood myths were influenced by actual past floods, they would have been local and regional. It was also common during the Iron Age to perceive one's own region as the world...

shivalinga #fundie

So you have divine Shiva Penis "science" contradicting evolution to share? But have no actual scientific arguments to write articles in reputable peer reviewed biology journals. If you did and those arguments were sound and based on evidence, it could find merit. So you use the propaganda method instead, lying about alleged science discarding the best science. Always without being able to put it forward.

Disregarding untenable pseudoscientific arguments and frivolous anti-science whining as such is not ignoring the arguments or denying any knowledge.

Anonymous Coward #fundie

1. Confusion

Your superstitions and outlandish claims do not result from extreme confusion?

2. Trouble paying attention

If you pay attention to anything, you've wasted it with fear mongering and misleading material.

3. Wanting to hide in your cave [she means cocoon yourself]

After what you said, I can understand. But people can learn and change. They can laugh at their past stupidity. There may be hope.

4. Forgetting who you really are

Like, a being with a biological body that naturally enjoys sexuality when healthy?

5. Discouraged, depressed and ready to quit
6. [Feeling of being] Angry and frustrated

That sounds like me as a teen in the Jehovah's Witness cult. It sounds like you when writing your porn demonization sermon. I quit it at 16, it was a great decision that I've never regretted. No more days ruined in advance by knowing there's a boring 2h unhealthy event to endure that night. No more people harassing me with "I didn't see you among the baptized... is there something that causes you guilt?" when my quiet answer was: "I have no intention to officially be enslaved in the abusive cult that's obviously not its self-professed 'Truth'." No more ridiculous superstitions, like being scared of mythological beings like demons. But I still was confused and lost in magic and circular philosophy a while. I had been brainwashed with unrealistic ideals, like immortality. I was interested in discovering if the supernatural existed. I was deceived there, too. But I also found much better explanations to human experiences that typically lead to false conclusions.

she is after fans to admire her and she is after gathering followers

That bothers you because it's your own business to do just that. Also because you're into patriarchy, an ideology where you'd like women to be quiet in the kitchen. When they're not, you demonize them as witches eating at the table of demons.

DavyMichael #sexist #fundie #kinkshaming

If you read Adam's story, it's also clear that men lead to death. But even life leads to death. Individuals are never permanent in nature. It's not a doctrinal matter and not because someone chose that. If your god existed, he would be the one to blame for that, however.

WeAreNarrative #transphobia

Reality is not a political conspiracy, it's not an ideology, it's not a religion. In the real world, there always were transgender people. Not letting you oppress them with political conspiracies, hate speech and abusive religious rhetoric, to attempt to forge the world according to your flawed ideology, that cannot deal with reality, is, however, legitimate. Bullshitter.

Fuhgeddaboitit #fundie #homophobia #transphobia

That's why sex abuse scandals often involve exploitative churches, the same that also chill victims from taking action and protect predators by not banning and reporting them? And encourage patriarchal families where women are treated like children, people isolated and captive, and where incest is rampant? Thus your need to project it against the rest of the world with frivolous libel, without evidence.

Paul Craig Roberts #wingnut #conspiracy

Putin puppet, Russian war disinformation. "Biden regime" ignores basic facts like that it's a democracy with a disparate house, free speech, including that of bullshitters exploiting the situation, under constitutional limits of presidential powers and separation of powers. Then Biden, unlike Trump, respects that, he's not expected to try to illegally cling to power or to abuse it, he has no imperial fantasies. The exact opposite of what Putin's regime has become, where dissent, political opposition and the independent press are oppressed, where democracy is only a sham show, etc. It hypocritically whines about territorial integrity while actively violating that of others. It accuses scapegoats for its own failures. Instead of leading to a modern integrated economy part of the free world, it's like the Nazi regime: it moralizes hypocritically when enacting outright crimes against humanity. The corrupt regime/church integration also manipulates the faithful, telling them that they should die for their narcissist dictator if they want salvation. If a God existed, Putin and Kiril would likely have been struck by divine intervention lightning by now. Putin's regime is basically the mafia controlling a state, involved in organized crime, illegal trade, money laundering, human trafficking, hybrid war against others, etc. Nothing respectable.

Kitty Glendower #fundie

Margaret #fundie

Ideal for patriarchy and sex wars: "feminists" promoting the hatred of men while at the same time fighting against the progress of actual feminism. Afterall, if you're so affraid of men, you're locked back in the kitchen and are under patriarchy control. Frivolous rape libel.

Navaros #fundie

The following is a parody that includes both facts and far fetched suggestions, attempting to sound like the voice of propaganda TV series trying to convince their audience with outlandish stories of ancient aliens with pseudoarchaeological arguments.

Is Yahweh anthropomorphic? Is the explanation that humans created Yahweh like for the other deities? If so, does Yahweh have a mouth? The Bible claims so and that he even spits people out of it! Consequently, if he has a mouth, it also means that he eats, suggesting that he also has a digestive system. If so, it has interesting implications. Does God defecate? All of the evidence point out that if he existed, he would!

Does YHWH also have a penis? Scriptures often refer to him with masculine pronouns, it was, afterall, a patriarchal society with its patriarchal versions of the origin myths of the Levant. A few verses mention that he would have a wife. Archaeology suggests that he actually did before an attempt to impose monotheism by a power elite, he was a storm war god with a consort, Asherah. Polytheism with consorts suggests fertility cult.

If so, this suggests the equivalent of a lingam, yes, a penis! And we know that the most ancient human cults were centered around fertility and the denial of death, the magicalization of nature that they did not understand, animism, etc.

But if God has a penis, it also means that he urinates and ejaculates, that his consorts also have vaginas, like yonis, receptacles that if inseminated, should result in reproduction!

Why? Because ancient humans created and adapted him, from and to their culture. The very reason it's anthropomorphic, with all the weaknesses of stupid mortal humans. If so, it explains why he's a jealous asshole who enjoys playing chess in the sky with humans, the image of an abusive king claiming to be of divine origin to justify it. He's even affraid of tall buildings (Babel)!

This is so obvious that a verse also had to be added, a justification, denying the fact and falsely pretending that humans were created in God's image. Therefore aliens!

Maha al-Metebaa #fundie

Assuming that there's truth to the story, if a 20yo woman was forced into having a virginity check because someone else in the family obliged her to, just that is very problematic. If she requested it (or if she is the one making the rape accusation), it's not clear.

Another issue is that assessing virginity by a medical verification is flawed, based on false assumptions. A hymen may be absent or broken for a number of reasons, especially in an adult. That's also why in some cultures women need to fake virginity by staining cloth or bed with red, even if they're actually virgins. And why some even have recourse to surgery to install a hymen, virgin or not. A medical test for rape is only useful to show evidence of recent trauma. It is not clear here if any such evidence of this was found, or if they were looking for a hymen, but it suggests the latter. The absence of a hymen does not mean not being a virgin either. Absence of virginity does not mean rape. The supposed bleeding may just be menstruation, or due to a medical condition.

Then if it was an actual rape case, the phone conversations could only serve as additional evidence, one of the contacts, a potential suspect, who may have been recently in physical contact with her. Which obviously cannot happen over the phone, a superstitious outlandish conclusion.

Assuming that what really happened was masturbation, or an affair, with such a whole story made up around it, it suggests how taboos are harmful to society... So are those patriarchal virginity myths. It may also suggest that she's imprisoned at home, producing the expectation that physical sex with someone would never be possible. It may even be to hide incestuous rape...

Anonymous #fundie

Christian #fundie

False premise, they don't have a form of religion, they're atheists. Or they're in the same one they were but don't believe in all of it. Projection, because you're the one exposing yourself as trying to force your ideology on others, the reason you are demonizing atheists with libel, putting up a straw man of them as if they were the Inquisition. The latter was religious and Christian, remember. This also suggests that you intend to corrupt education in favor of indoctrination, because you claim that untainted education is imposed by nefarious cabals. The separation of church and state is a constitutional requirement and means that you're free to teach your children at home and at church, but that imposing doctrine is not the role of public education. That's not an atheist cabal at work. It even protects other Christians against persecution by a particular Christian cult, like yours. It suggests that your particular cult is manipulative and exploitative, that it needs to deny knowledge to its victims to control them.

Great comments, by Pule Thamex, dionysus, Brain_In_A_Jar, Swede, Doctor Whom, JohnTheAtheist, Wookieduck, emau99, GigaGuess, Mat, Anon-e-moose, et al.

DOS claimed to be representing moderate Christians, asserting that atheists deserved to be hated. I question that, considering their arguments and the attempt to justify the original poster's crime enticement by putting up the "atheists" straw man in the same boat as the OP. Then pushing paranoid slippery slope conspiracy theories about them (i.e. Communism). And entertaining the same false premise as the OP, that the separation of church and state is some kind of atheist conspiracy. The whole thing did not have to mention atheists at all, a minority. It only did to demonize secular society and present straw men to scapegoat.

Pat Robertson #fundie

The moment when you realize that Robertson is a hypocrite, promoting double standards for women subjugation, and imposing stereotypes on both partners. So now inverse the roles and repeat the same arguments. Then instead of saying "it's life", admit that it could also be improved, people are not obliged to endure a disrespectful partner forever. The assumption that she should be stuck at home also says a lot. It's true that it's more difficult for her if she has no freedom, was already tricked into not being able to be independent, subjugated; that's not rightful, it's harmful.

Superior Court Judge J. David Roper #fundie

Even if you defeat all their irrational arguments, they still always come up with frivolous "dangerous" excuses. Exposing the fact that it's corruption of the state by "I don't like it" agents, violating the constitutional requirement of the separation of state and church. In 2024, we know that Georgia is also corrupted by treasonous Trumpism, with election-denial mob agents installed as electors.

Hausawa Filin Hockey upper-Sharia court, Inspector Aminu Yargoje, Idris Ibrahim and unnamed rioters #fundie

The civil supreme court can overturn a death conviction of the Sharia courts

Meaning: disregard those illegitimate "authorities" and their threats (and murder enticement). Unfortunately, it's not as simple as that when too many people don't do this, or when the court is corrupt by theocrats and manipulated by US far-right foreign interference, something Nigeria is notorious for...

Uri Geller #magick

This reminded me of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexible_organic_light-emitting_diode and of Gallium (i.e. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvRcUeWjBu0 :)

Although Geller's old school tricks apparently relied on soft enough metal fatigue and diversions.

Well, it also reminds me of "lingam materialization" (regurgitation of a previously swallowed object, spitting of a mouth-stored one, or spitting in a cloth where it is already stored, then revealing it):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNC6ujo3Hbs

CollectCallFrom #conspiracy #magick

Anatomy romanticism, neurology mysticism, metaphysical idealism, god of the gaps... And conspiracy theories to deny the effectiveness and safety of well managed fluoride levels. Also, the OP likely ignores that fluor is often naturally high in well water (sometimes too much so). Another source of fluoride is tea. Apparently, toxic fluoride levels may have an effect on neurology, but no relation to the pineal. Then as others noted, there's nothing "divine" with that gland. Some books that have promoted this idea in popular culture were actually hoaxes, like the book by "Lobsang Rampa" (actually Cyril Henry Hoskin), "The Third Eye"...

Elon Musk #dunning-kruger #elitist #forced-birth #fundie

Elon Musk trying to compete with Bennett Lee Ross? :)

And of course, secular religion is as clueless as religious atheism: an incredible mind distortion, to deny that secular simply means uncorrupt by religion while allowing everyone to practice theirs, and atheism the lack of belief in deities, due to the lack of evidence for their claimed existence and an understanding that humans create them.

The argument about modernity leaving life empty of meaning or leaving a void is also common, some really believe that. For some people, it's also just freedom that they can express in better ways. In any case, forcing religion down people's throats will not improve anything and would violate freedoms (those of the religious who are of another sect, as well as those of the non-religious). If you find emptiness in normal life and find religion appealing, everyone is free to live spiritually and religiously in the US.

It seems that in Musk's case, he would like to impose his will on that of others, at least one family member who can no longer stand him. Or to suppress other transgender people, as it has become a type of obsession.

Then other things may point at the man's avarice, like disregarding partners/workers their worth to allocate the most money to himself, resulting in outrage and lawsuits. Not a good example of someone who cares about society and the world, making ironic any claim that he does...

Omegason1 #racist

White supremacist and Odinist Nazi. Out of place artifact spamming a gaming forum. Race war accelerationism.

Denial of the fact that science is a neutral universal enterprise. It's this kind of bigoted racist supremacist ideology, including pseudoscientific racism, that perpetuates barriers to the emancipation of all people and promotes systemic racism.

Also, just like Hitler and fascists do, this falsely claims to be under attack, to promote attacking the "other" scapegoat, fabricated with straw men. Delusory persecution complex.

I'm white and see and denounce your bullshit as such, asshole.

Fundamentalists #fundie

Confusion of science and atheism. Confusion of the big bang, baryogenesis and star nucleosynthesis with evolution. Confusion of spontaneous life generation with abiogenesis. Confusion of abiogenesis with evolution, descent with modification and natural selection. False claim that Christians cannot accept the discoveries of science: most Catholics do. There also are theistic evolutionists. Finally, there can be no denial of that for which there is no evidence. Since there is overwhelming evidence supporting the fact that we have evolved, we can rightfully call its denial: denial. False equivalence. Straw men all the way down. Alienation.

its_me_ #fundie

You can watch your movies and nobody will notice. If you promote nonsense, falsehoods, bigotry or hate speech publicly, some people may fact-check your statements. Just like here. Or just like critics evaluate propaganda films. Obvious. Speech does not come without consequences, especially when it seeks consequences. Delusory persecution complex. It's also important to distinguish education and indoctrination. Corrupting science education to promote science denial is deceptive, it's for indoctrination in creationism. Major creationist doctrines can be taught along with the origin myths of major religions in a relevant moral and religion class, without promoting the pseudoscientific nonsense. That's not a problem. And why did this belong on Gamespot?

battlefront23 #fundie

Your boolean identity statement is fallacious:

There are Christian theists and Christian atheists
There are non-Christian theists and non-Christian atheists
Fill the blanks, also add agnostic, etc.

Then consider the fact that you don't need to be atheist to accept reality, science, evolution, etc.

But your head may have exploded by now...

camel2on64 #fundie

The fact that we evolved has not violated any physics and if it did we would not have evolved and would not have discovered that we did: we didn't invent that. But you also forgot that your idealistic doctrine would also need to apply to deities. There's an answer, however: humans imagined those. Thus, reality denial in favor of an imaginary world.

huladog123 #fundie

You have a major problem. Your scriptures have been written by men who were ignorant about the natural world, who entertained being the center of the universe and craved for the attention of an alleged all-powerful deity that is also a human invention. This means that the scriptures are a bad source to infer anything about the natural world and the discovery of knowledge, science. False premises, leading to false conclusions. It also leads to very conflicting arguments. You pretend that an incredibly large universe was only created for us, but that we're its sole purpose. You claim that we're supposed to explore it, but! If we explore it too much and discover things that contradicts old mythology, it's too much. Like the humbling fact that we have evolved, that we're not the center of the universe, that our solar system is one among many, even true for our galaxy.

That's also why those ancient humans didn't write about other planets they had no idea existed. And why they ignored that we had evolved.

About alleged other beings, it's logical that since life developped here, abiogenesis, it may also have happened elsewhere in the huge old universe. Still, it's considered unlikely that we would ever discover and meet other intelligent E.T. life, because of the rarity and incredible distances involved.

msoftburney #fundie

This becomes very relevant today, where evidence shows the Republican party to increasingly embrace KKK-style identity politics and human right abuses. Their current presidential candidate even invites neo-nazi militias who claim to be Christians, to be his personal army and try coup attempts...

Troll.

Jesus-Halo-God #fundie

Considering how clueless you are about atheists and atheism, how would you recognize them anyway? Why should an irrational hateful statement like yours be taken seriously? From where would you "ban atheists"? Where do you have the authority to try that? What about the theists that you're misconstruing as atheists? It would be more reasonable for the rest of society, theist and non-theist, to make sure that someone like you is never put in a position where they can abuse anyone.

battlefront23 #fundie

How would you know that your god is true, it was invented by humans. Unlike evolution, a discovery of nature, a fact of biology. Science doesn't work with saints. Darwin was clueful, but we know much more than he did today. Many Christians accept science and reality and understand what origin myths are. Your problem may be a false doctrine that really conflicts with reality, like Young Earth Creationism? And jumping to the false suggestion that not denying reality means atheism. This means that atheism here is a straw man. This deception is not too surprising, considering that isolating to exploit is one of the principles of cults.

Also, I suspect this was trolling. It's also not normal when unrelated forums are suddenly targetted for radicalization, infiltrated and harassed by anonymous "preachers".

cukoo #fundie

History shows that when the separation of religion and state is violated, it's when religious oppression and the criminalization of human rights usually occurs, the theocrat enforcing their own cult and doctrine against all others, including those of the same religion that are not in their particular denomination. Or those deemed to be "sinning". This fact contradicts your false claim. Also, in most democracies with a constitution, presidents are not dictators, unless they erode the necessary separation of powers. Those who tend to do it are the same who usually hope to install a totalitarian theocracy. Those who understand this and have no intention to abuse, believers and atheists, should not be a major problem and should respect the institutions and the limits of presidential powers. Finally, critical thinking tends to be associated with less irrationality. It may also possibly lead to atheism, because of the fact that belief without evidence is fallacious. Rational thinking usually helps to lead to sound decisions. The "emotional" straw man here was rather ironic.