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David Wilcock and Chris Beskar #ufo #magick #conspiracy #mammon

"Claims and wishthinking are PROOFS!"

Edit/Adding:

It's speculation on my part but it's possible for a true believer's false and unrealistic expectations to exacerbate conditions like depression, so it may have played a role in David's recent suicide. Relying on methods that do not work can get in the way of properly addressing problems, like with other forms of evasion. Other factors not helping could be a reputation for unreliable statements, but some have successful business models based around such. Apparently Wilcock struggled financially, but it could also be due to depression itself.

In any case, RIP. It reminds me that I was very alienated from reality in my youth, misdirected and confused by propaganda. I also know what if feels like to be very invested into what I then discovered to be vanity...

Ironically, a cult like the JWs will keep saying that any activity not serving "Jehovah" (the organization) is vanity. Ignorance and curiosity then led me to other mostly vain venues and cultic movements, still being stuck in fear, superstition, fantasy and power seeking.

I was also reading on usenet what I now understand to be extremist propaganda. Well, I still read some of that on FSTDT, but as part of an activity to put them in context critically, not out of gullibility...

johnfromjersey #fundie

“I disagree, I believe God is in the process of doing a great work again in America.”
Well, isn’t that adorable. I think Aphrodite is doing Porn in Reno.

“This nation was started on the principals of the Bible.”
Wouldn’t the principals of the Bible be God, Jesus, Abraham, Paul? None of them are mentioned in the Constitution.

“It's laws, and process of governance, is a direct result of the great Christian men who gave up so much to make America what it is.”
Where did these Christain men get the idea of religious freedom? It’s against the Ten Commandments.

“I think America, and more rightly, Americans have allowed God to be pushed from discourse for too long.”
The Constitution pushes God from discourse, bubbles.

“America is at a time when we need God to interveine on our behalf.”
Yeah, yeah, sure. We need the guy who sends plagues to punish people who wanted to give in right away.

“Isn't it obvious how far we've allowed the A.C.L.U. types to dictate the course for America, against all that we believe.”
But they do it by quoting the Constitution, which we all swear we believe.

“Christmas used to be a time of rejoycing, but, it's now reduced to political correctness”
Oh, Jesus, Mary, Joseph and that Guy with the Lisp! Saying ‘Happy Holidays does absolutely NOTHING to Christmas or Christains except acknowledge that there’s also Kwanza, Hanukah, Solstice, and National Cupcake Day, hope you enjoy ALL of them, not just your superstition.

“so no one feels bad about seeing the real reason for it, the birth of the savior of the world.”
Jesus was born in spring, Christmas celebrates Saturnalia. The reason for it is that the pagans wouldn’t stop so the church just stole it.

“If I blame anyone, it would be the very Christians who stand by and allow it to happen before our eyes.”
You mean the realists?

Ravii #fundie

“Evolution is a religious belief.”
A position adopted only by people who reject evolution because of their religious beliefs…

“Science theories are very similar to religous beliefs,”
But science is purely naturalistic. Religions TEND to require supernatural beings, actions, events, and traits. like gods, creation, resurrection, and souls.

“except they add in crap like hydrogen, oxygen etc.”
Yeah, stuff that can be detected, measured, manipulated…

Samuel Hovanec #homophobia #conspiracy

You know, the biology of reptiles (such as frogs) is different from mammals (such as humans), including sex determination - there’s species of reptiles where sex is determinated by temperature.

Robert F Kennedy jr #crackpot #dunning-kruger #pratt #wingnut

@Timjer #254104
Certainly not because the voters evaluated them critically…

Trustyourperceptions #crackpot #sexist

If Semen is death, what are your ancestors going to be made from?

Anons #sexist #racist

Robert F Kennedy jr #crackpot #dunning-kruger #pratt #wingnut

…Jesus effin’ Christ. How, in any sane world, can the leader(s) of the most powerful superpower on earth be such absolute MORONS…

Jarad Christian #fundie

No, sorry. When you fuckers try to say thatthis is a Christain nation, or the Christain west, you quote numbers from surveys that include Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Episcopalians, and that guy in the Bronx who runs naked through the farmer’s market throwing bibles at people.
You can’t cherry pick their faithiness unless you do it all the time. Then it becomes clear that this is mostly a ‘subject to demons’ country, not Christain.

Robert F Kennedy jr #crackpot #dunning-kruger #pratt #wingnut

THe man who sniffs cocaine off toilet seats is defending the math of the illiterate rapist. That’s just 100% wiggety whack.

Angyl #fundie

“God 'stretched out the heavens.' Tell me...what would be the point of even putting that phrase in the Bible”
BibleEarth is a flat disc under a solid sky, water above and water below. It’s an inside out snowglobe.
At the very top of the dome above us is the Northern Star.
A different translation of that verse is that God ‘stretched out the North.’ I think it means that he raised the dome like erecting a circus tent. Lifted the sky up right there, so there’s room for the stars and moon and sun to roll around INSIDE the sky.
“ if not to explain these things to scientists thousands of years later???”
It’s to reflect the conventional knowledge of the authors,

C.T. #wingnut #racist

Seabird & 4Godisjust #fundie

“"Theres no evidence of a God"...............”
No, no. I’m an atheists because I don’t see any evidence of ANY gods.

“Just take a look at a new born baby,”
I have three kids and a granddaughter. My feeling of wonder is NOT evidence that requires a supernatural agent.

“or the many flowers, trees, fruit trees, all of creation.”
All of creation would include Harlequin babies. Eye worms. Brain cancer for children. Starving multitudes. Trump.

“I can't see how people believe this all just happened.”
That’s not what I believe. Many things HAVE to happen because of how matter and energy interact.

“me ether, it boogles my mind....”
Um…sorry?

“I just don't understand why someone would want to believe such non sense anyways.....”
I don’t BELIEVE it, it just seems the best evidenced nonsense out there.

"I am the way the truth and the light, no one comes to the father but throw me"..
That’s cute. i may keep that. “THROW me Jesus!”

Anons #sexist #racist

(About D4vid's case)
> This nigger has done irreparable damage to age gap relationships especially among zoomers. Now even a 1 year age gap is going to be considered weird, toxic and chance of "manipulation"

OK, I’d never heard of D4vid until literally a few minutes ago. He’s a 21-year-old singer who is currently being charged with the murder (and also “lewd and lascivious acts”) of a 14-year-old girl. That’s not what people are normally talking about when we’re talking about “age gap relationships”!!!!

Anons #sexist

> These men are still of the mindset where they have to become gigachad to get the most access to women.

Isn’t that the definition of “gigachad” though? The guy who can get any woman he wants. Like the “Nature Boy” Ric Flair, when he said “All the women want to be with me, all the men want to be like me.” (I’m sure there were a few “whooos” in there too, lol)

Looker for truth #racist #conspiracy

The large nose

Really???

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That looks like a completely average nose to me, pretty “bog-standard” to use a British term that I find amusing for some weird reason. Certainly nothing like the stereotypical Jewish caricature.

The Dude #wingnut #pratt

william morrissey #fundie #wingnut #conspiracy

Looker for truth #racist #conspiracy

Sounds like this, an alternate version of the Fundie Definition of Liberalism at http://creationtheory.org/Essays/Phrases.xhtml

Jewish
Anti-semitic definition: “A catch-all label which is applied to everyone that those who think Hitler was the good guy of WW2 don’t like.
Like the ones who…
…are positive to the LGBTQ.
…thinks Donald Trump should be removed from office.
…are non-Palestinians who live in Israel.
Over time, anti-semites learn to dismiss people as bad simply by calling them "Jews", as if no further explanation is required.”

C.T. #wingnut #racist

“Our Constitution,” said Hans Frank, “is the will of the Führer.”

That’s what Trump has attempted to become, America’s Führer.

Anons #sexist #racist

Anons #sexist

Despite a .50 cal. rifle blowing up in his face, which resulted in not only extensive injuries there but a piece of said rifle embedding itself into his lung, and another severed his jugular vein: and a doctor said that the only thing which saved him was ‘Putting a Thumb In It’ - which became his catchprase - into that neck wound, Scott deShields Jr. not only survived but is as strong as before that firearm incident. For a former State Trooper - now professional YouTuber with over 5 million subscribers with his Kentucky Ballistics channel - he is the living embodiment of what Nietzsche said: ‘What does not kill you, makes you stronger’. He is the literal Gigachad.

So take your best shot at asking this question, OP: Why is he married…?!

…especially when - in said vids - he doesn’t take himself too seriously.

So what’s your excuse?

Looker for truth #racist #conspiracy

For some… thing that likes to claim that others are Jewish ‘in your opinion’…:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Orwell#Early_years

Eric Arthur Blair was born on 25 June 1903 in Motihari, Bengal Presidency (now Bihar), British India, into what he described as a "lower-upper-middle class" family. His great-great-grandfather Charles Blair was a wealthy slave-owning country gentleman and absentee owner of two Jamaican plantations; hailing from Dorset, he married Lady Mary Fane, daughter of Thomas Fane, 8th Earl of Westmorland. His grandfather Thomas Richard Arthur Blair was an Anglican clergyman

…Reality has a rather nasty habit of destroying wrong opinions, OP.

So he who was George Orwell was also anti-Semitic. So?

The difference here being that he wasn’t you.

Anons #sexist #racist

Women like guys 3-5 years older than them. That will never change.

Funny, my wife is older than me by a few years. Never say never.

Looker for truth #racist #conspiracy

"-Socialist, and all other poisonous ideologies? This perplexity suggests that Orwell (Blair) was just one among many “false flag” writers and deceivers who, at first glance, appear to be criticizing Jewish movements like Communism, yet openly associate with Jews throughout their personal and professional lives. In this way, the Jews “minimize” negative criticism against them by claiming that groups such as the “Communists” are responsible for the world’s problems, rather than Jews."

Anons #sexist

Anons #sexist #racist

Bill Ponton #racist #dunning-kruger

C.T. #wingnut #racist

William Pierce’s intelligence… the same William Pierce who “solution” to the non-white world is to use every single world-destroying weapon to kill them all and kill every white person that dares to disagree with him and his view of white supremacy… Yeah, he’s real intelligence and totally not a even more self-destructive moran who’s ideal state would implode long before he can even get to a fraction of his goals.

Must piss you off no end that you wouldn’t even have a USA if not for the one who bankrolled the War of Independence:

Haym Salomon.

Samuel Hovanec #homophobia #conspiracy

Christ Loving America #fundie #conspiracy

Looks like the kind to take a gun to a crowd “to deal with my enemies.”

Looker for truth #racist #crackpot

If Hitler truly hated Jews, then why does he receive attention by the Jews?

Because he had them murdered.

The truth is, Hitler wanted a commonwealth for the Jews, so he hid them well in camps, where they performed plays, had orchestras, swimming pools, brothels, full bath and shower stalls

Explain the crematorium, the mass graves and the ghettos.

C.T. #wingnut #racist

Stephen Flurry #fundie #homophobia

This is an audacious insult to […] the Creator of sex!

Dude, Ishtar, Venus/Aphrodite, Hathor, Freyja, etc. predate Christianity by quite some time. YHWH did not invent sex.

And besides, even if YHWH did invent sex, you’d think he wouldn’t be such a massive prude who hates every kind of sexual act imaginable (to the point of installing a Demon Lord (Asmodeus) to embody the Sin of Lust) and ONLY tolerates the occasional male-to-female missionary sex because something has to make more children for him to bully…

You know, it’s telling, isn’t it? Almost all ancient RL myths have a celebrated deity of love and sex, while the Abrahamic religions outright have a hated/feared Demon Lord of Lust instead… It’s both pathetic and fascinating in a way, the Abrahamic religions’ sheer prudishness, misogyny, and coitophobia.

These people are shaking their fists in God’s face!

Reminds me of the “old man yells at cloud” meme. Except we’re not the “old man” here.

Skywatcher57 #fundie

“It always disgusts me to see the evolutionary theory accepted and passed off as fact."
Yeah, that’s SO wrong.
Evolution is a fact, it’s been observed.
Evolutionary THEORY never graduates to fact, it’s just he best supported science in the whole field.

“To date, not a single evolutionist has been able to intelligently answer a simple question: Where did matter, the spark of life, and emotions come from?”
That’s three questions.
Matter isn’t a question for biology.
You need to define what the ‘spark’ of life is.
Emotions are pretty easy, though. Our body reacts to stimulus and creates pleasure, fear, or a desperate need for a cigarette. They usually enhance survival, so we haven’t bred out of them.

“To date, as a rock collector, I've not heard a single rock cry out in pain when I crack it open!”
Do you think it should?
Or do you think that ‘pain’ is an emotion?
just how dumb are you?

“We believe in an Intelligent Designer, with copious amounts of scientific proof, while they believe we came from a rock!”
Ah. That dumb.

No, we don’t believe we came from a rock. That’s one of Hovind’s lies.
And there’s no scientific proof for Intelligent Design. There cannot be. Science can never point to the supernatural.

“It takes more faith to believe the latter than the former.”
Nope. Just an attention span.

“Liberals don't possess much critical thinking ability, do they!”
That’s a question, needs a ? at the end, you critical thinker, you.

Kirito3 #fundie

“Uni should be outlawed”
Says the guy who isn’t invited to parties a second time.

“Shit destroys your NT,”
You’d be neuro-typical if it weren’t for university?

"I hope the lord smites every campus in the uSA with righteous fire- this debauchery can by no means go unpunished”
Oh, yeah, you’re neuro-typical. You’re not getting sex, so you want god to punish everyone else for having the sex. The sex you’d cut your arm off to have.

Richard #fundie

“The problem with the FSM, Leprechaun, and Odin questions is that they all start with an incorrect premise. They equate these imaginary and fictional characters to a real historical being.”
No, no, we use these fictional characters to show the inadequacy of arguments for GOD, not a real historical being.
That’s why we don’t try to compare the evidence for Odin with the evidence for, say, Alexandar the Great.

“This is a mistake in logic and reason.”
No, you’re just sure of God’s historicity and don’t want his lack of evidence highlighted.

“This is why atheists often find themselves running in circles trying to figure out why their ‘argument’ is silly.”
Silly, yes, but not a logical failure or a mistake in reasoning.

“The reality of God is already established as a matter of the historical record.”
Where would this be?

“ To believe God isn’t real, requires them to disprove the already established facts about God—which all of them admit they can’t do.”
What established historical facts would those be?
Seriously, you’ve got a largely anonymous book of fairy tales and…..?

“Because they can’t do it, their entire belief that God isn’t real – even though God has already been established as real – is based on blind faith—a belief (opinion) but not facts and evidence.”
You HAVE facts and evidence? You’ve got arguments from popularity, but so does Odin, and Leprechauns.

“This is why it takes great faith to be an atheist.”
You’re just trying to duck any responsibility for the burden of proofiness.

Herepton #fundie

“The facts of history confirms the Biblical scenario and falsifies the Evolutionary scenario”
All of known history happens to ‘Modern Man,’ thus is in no position to comment on the evolutionary scenario of EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED BEFORE HISTORY.

"based on the massive amount of worldwide physical evidence proving ancient men possessed ultra-intelligence and capabilities surpassing our own today.”
Um…and?

“They knew the shape and EXACT dimensions of the Earth,”
but the Bible authors still thought it was flat.

“how to locate and align any position with true polar north,”
And we can measure the exact longitude and latitude of the earth’s rotational axis on the North pole to within meters.

“were advanced mathematicians who employed pi in their geometrical and trigonometrical abilities,”
Still modern man, so nothing they can do invalidates evolution.

“and could extract out of quarry, transport, cut with optical precision, dress, and lift blocks weighing up to 70 to 400 tons apiece without cranes or any modern equipment.”
Ooooh, they made pyramids. Surely there must have been a Christain God so the Egyptian Pagans could do this….

Kent Hovind #fundie

“You see, people don't understand capital punishment is a great deterrent.”
Because historically, that’s not true.

“Especially if it is public and you take your kids down and you watch someone get stoned [.....]”
Not terribly long ago, Britain had a death sentence for pickpockets. They were hung and the public watched. It was a real crowd pleaser, seeing someone hit the end of the rope and dance.
Everyone knew that witnessing the hanging drew HUGE crowds.
And where there are big crowds, there are pickpockets.
Who knew that THE time to dip someone’s pocket was when they pulled the lever and the criminal dropped.
So, pickpockets were picking pockets while pickpockets were being hung for picking pockets.
It didn’t deter shit.

“and your kid says, "Daddy, what did they do?." "Oh, he was a bad person. He did this, this, this." You're going to impress on that little kid - he's never going to do that.”
Not unless:
1) he thinks he’ll get away with it
2) He thinks God’ll forgive him for it
3) He doesn’t actually think before he does the crime.

Jack Kelley #fundie

“But there's an even more powerful legal argument for eternal punishment that for centuries was modeled in human existence as well.”
Betcha it’s not a valid argument…

“Until the mid 19th Century it was common practice in many parts of the world to incarcerate a person for failure to pay his or her debts. Jail time was not an alternative method of repayment, it was the consequence they suffered for their inability to pay their debts. No matter how much they were locked up they still owed as much of their debt as they did on their first day behind bars. They could only be freed by repaying the money they owed.”
So they COULD be freed. Until then, they were slave labor. But they still could return to society and even borrow money again. Or they might die, and their prison sentence end that way. That’s not any sort of analogy to Hell, though.

“[...] It's the same with our sins. Punishment is not an alternative method unbelievers can use to pay the penalty for their sins, it's the consequence they'll suffer for their inability to pay the penalty.”
But the suffering is infinite torture for a finite amount of sin.
And it never ends, there’s no way out, there’s no way to outlive the torment. It’s just torture with no meaning.

“No matter how long people suffer in eternity, they will still owe the same penalty as they did on day one. The only acceptable payment for sin is the blood of an innocent person, and nothing else will suffice.”
So, you’re saying that God’s a loan shark?

AryanaAquilla #racist

“all you did was troll are forum and spam are board”
Lane? Is that you?
6th grade science fair, Lane’s project was ‘Are Trees’
He MEANT ‘Our Tree.’ I spent half an hour, though, trying to find the rest of the question on his posterboard.
So, what, 1975? How’ve you been since then? Ever get out of Jerome?
I joined the Navy and married a woman who I met when stationed in Scotland. She can spell ‘our.’ She taught English for 17 years in Massachusetts.
Have to say, being that opinionated and that ignorant scares me. May be the reason i reject all forms of religion, fear of being dumbed down…

But you call US stupid demonspawn. Huh.

June Reis #fundie

“Dogma=there is no god;”
That’s not a dogma, I don’t feel that way.
I just don’t think any human argument for any of the gods of man are at all compelling.

“rituals=ridicule those who believe in any diety;”
It’s not a ritual. I don’t feel that ridiculing your idiocy makes me any more authentically atheist. It’s just amusing as fuck.

“buildings=clubs, libraries, science labs or anywhere that man can trump God in their eyes;”
But i go to a library to find community with literate people, not atheists.
I go to labs to find community with science people, not atheists.
Every club I ever saw is a specific community base. I’ve never been to an atheist club.

“basic books=anything made by Man that opposes God. Sad lot.”
Uh huh. You’re reaching pretty pathetic levels of desperation, here.
Not all atheists value or even read teh same books. And I certainly don’t feel that my atheism is based on reading everything Edgar Rice Burroughs ever wrote.

Christ Loving America #fundie #conspiracy

My college roommate became a minister after graduation. She says a lot of her ministry involves referring people to mental health services.

Thomas Ryan Rousseau #wingnut #racist

A corrupt, rootless, global, and tyrannical elite has usurped your democracy and turned it into a weapon, first to enslave and then to replace you.

That pretty much defines the billionaire 1%.