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bluetrinity #fundie

“Because good without God doesn't exist. In other words, every act is always selfish.”
Well, Yes, I have always believed that.
But, the definition of ‘self’ can be more or less generous.
In the Navy i did what was good for me, and what was good for my division. And my department over the rest of the crew.
And my crew over the rest of the fleet.
And the submarine fleet over the rest of the Navy.
And the Navy over the rest of the Military.
And the Military over big business.
And the US over the other countries…
So, there’s selfish and there’s selfish.

“If God comes into your life, this changes and acts and people become less selfish.”
Bullshit. So many Christain comment on this site are basically, ‘fuck you, -I- am going to be saved.’
Just look at how many Christains ignore the Sermon on the Mount and cancel Welfare, SNAP, school lunch, social security… It’s not out of love for their fellow man they want babies to starve.

“Now, does that mean there are no good acts? No. People DO do good things. But most people do good deeds to make themselves feel better about themselves or they don't know why they do good deeds.”
I see nothing here to distinguish the acts of performative Christains from truly generous non-believers.

“It just feels good and right to them. But that's God working in them.”
Ah. So the guy who made brain cancer gets all credit for good things, but no blame for bad’uns.

Mar73 #sexist

“In as late as 1880, the AOC in the State of Delaware was 7.”
Age of consent or legal age of marriage?
A lot of human history, marriage was just a way of controlling property inheritance, protecting investments.
And ‘pedophile’ doesn’t label everyone in the state just because of the age of consent (or marriage). It’s the desire to fuck a 7 year old that makes one a pedo. Otherwise you’re just treating her as a game token…

Drich #fundie

“To see it all come to an end, and to do an 'i told you so dance’.”
Dancing in celebration of vast amounts of suffering because it validates his personal choices. Yeah, that’s the sadistic, self-centered sort of Christain fuck i left the church to avoid.

mikeEmyers #fundie

“So why do women despise me?”
How do you know they feel that much? Maybe they just ignore you?
How do you identify ‘despise’ on their part?

“I have done nothing to any woman. I have ALWAYS treated them with respect.”
I hate to tell you but you’re not the one to define ‘treated with respect.’ I mean, I have known a man who said ‘I always respect niggers.’ He didn’t see the self-own in that statement. I also know men who insist that whistling at good-looking women on the street is giving them a compliment. Women have felt differently.

“So why don't I get some back?”
It’s not a transaction. You can’t measure respect and say ‘I give you four quarts of respect, therefore I deserve at least three quarts in return.’

"I'll leave you with this thought;
One day, a loveshy man will not be content with gunning down a few women.”
Ah. And you blame the women who didn’t love him for his effort to punish an entire gender.

“One day, a man will take A THOUSAND of you bitches with him.”
‘Bitches’ is not treating women with respect, even aside from the threat to kill women by the thousand.

“Then, maybe the world will sit up and take notice.”
And just start shooting sad, lonely men because of your death rate.

Frank #fundie

“I do, not to be offencive, but I see people who don't have a real vision of God as blind, deluded.”
Okay. You’re the one with an invisible friend you talk to.

“I don't mean to offend Atheists, I see religion as a part of everybody's life,”
DO you know what the word ‘atheist’ means, though?

“those who don't have it are lacking it”
Can’t argue that observation.

“and missing a huge part in their life, do you agree?”
No. I’ve had a very specific religion and then a more general Christain faith, then a generalized theism, then less and less and less so.

“(after being bombarded with atheists disagreeing with him)”
Big surprise.

“but friends, how can I be the blind one, I see something you do not...”
That doesn’t mean you’re not blind, not if it’s a delusion, hallucination, mirage, or any of the other ways we refer to ‘not being in touch with reality.’

“by logic that proves you are the blind and deluded ones”
That’s not logic, that’s just a self-serving claim of superiority.

Sophie #fundie

“…I found out same sex partners can be covered on insurance, effective July 1st.”
Aw, the world is moving on without your permission. Poor little fuckstick.

“ I'll tell you, I think herto-sexuals are being discriminated against.”
Um, how? What have you lost? YOU still have spouse coverage of employer-based insurance, right? No discrimination there.
Did anything invalidate your wedding certificate? License? Prenuptials contract? No discrimination there.
Can you sit together at a public restaurant? Some interracial couples couldn’t when I was growing up. So, some racial discrimination, but not herto-sexual discrimination.
Sometimes when my wife and I go to fast-food, the counterman rings up her order when she finishes, thinking I’m a separate customer. But that’s not because we’re ‘hertosexuals.’

You’ve lost NOTHING except you can’t bully gay couples for being gay. So, not discrimination.

Anonymous #fundie

“Wouldn't this be considered a haunting?”
I think, then, that God would have said that ABEL is crying up from the ground, no? Abel or TheGhostOfAbel, not blood of type Abel.
His blood crying is just forensic evidence of the murder.

Eugenicist #sexist #psycho

“Trying to get all of them down so I can use it to know what I come to expect with foids so I can control them easier/ in a funnier context.
Makeup”
Yes, yes, GUYS never alter their looks. Dye hair, add bronzer, cover zits… Nope. Just women… You’ll never see a man in a make-up chair.
Anyone ever tell you why Donald is orange, but his hair is rooted in pale skill?

“Loving good foods”
Exactly how are you defining women’s interests? Who the hell doesn’t love good food?

“Hating ugly people”
Ah. And that’s it. You only CARE that women won’t touch yuo, not that men judge women as much as they judge men.

“Did I miss anything?”
Surprised you didn’t add boy bands, romantic comedies, pink, teddy bears, and so on.

Doug #fundie #homophobia

“In my college days, when I was more of a moderate, I had actually tried to befriend homosexuals and preach the Gospel to them in order to convert them from their wicked ways,”
That’s not really befriending, though, is it?
You’re like the guy who wears a feminist t-shirt to get women’s phone numbers. Not really supporting the woman as much as posing.

“but to no avail.”
No shit.

“They would listen for a time but then go right back to their old patterns of self-destructive behavior - which also included heavy drinking, drug use, and general lawlessness.”
You also aren’t befriending anyone by judging them so harshly. No wonder you had no impact.

“It was like there was something evil inside them that made them do what they do - something that refused to let them go.”
You’re the one lying to them (or maybe to yourself) and you think THEY are the evil ones.
I would like to you to fuck off out of the building you’re in. Fuck off down the road to the edge of town. Take the on-ramp to the fuck off highway. Head to the border and pull over. There’s a fence with a sign, no fucking off beyond this point. Ignore the sign, gun the engine and burst through the fence, and fuck off to the end of the fucking world you dishonest hypocrite.

"nd since America is no longer a Christian country,”
It never was, bubbles.

“it may be necessary to create a country within a country wherein our values will be upheld by law, if only to protect ourselves from these people.”
That’s secession. It’d been tried before. Didn’t turn out well.

Anonymous Coward #sexist

“Even in my dreams I am incel”
You CONCENTRATE throughout the day on just how incel you are. Of course your subconscious centers on those feelings.

“I cannot get laid or any action from females even in my dreams.”
You don’t expect to, your subconscious doesn’t want to disappoint.

“I watched a chad get a blowjob from a cute girl in a classroom, in my fucking dreams.”
Start tracking how much time you spend thinking about how much sex Chad gets, no wonder you dream about it.

“Can you believe that shit. I am utterly defeated.”
Self-inflicted wound.

Steve Kirsch #conspiracy #wingnut

“I thought the vaccines were supposed to reduce your risk of death?”
People are stupid. They tell you when you get the shot that you still need to practice masking and social distancing for two weeks. Dumb people go out and get COVID because they think ’i’ve had the shot, I’m totally safe.’
Also, we saw a LOT of people wait to get the shots until after they were sick and then act surprised that it was too late.
So, yes, the vaccines DO reduce your risk of death IF USED PROPERLY. I do not count humanity in general as qualified to use them properly.

ApolloAreios #racist

“We couldn't get rid of sports ball fast enough as far as I'm concerned.”
And in less than two paragraphs, you advise white men to play sportsball. That we got rid of. Your parents got tired of buying you crayons in high school, didn’t they?

“It's a safe tribalist outlet where Americans with bellies eat and drink while passively watching negroes play ball.”
You forget middle class Americans paying a SHITLOAD of money to other Americans playing ball.

“How about instead of watching the game, you get together with your brothers and nephews and play a game of football yourself?”
My doctors advise against it. The Cardiologist would be all for it, but the orthopedist and the podiatrist would hurt me

“Be on your own team for once.”
Hey, fuck you, I was on the Varsity Math Team!

“The women can watch and make sandwiches.”
I love my wife to DEATH but when we cook meals, I tend to pick steak. She picks these meatless dishes that taste great, but my god, I could be vegan for those evenings. I’d fear the sandwiches she might make for the team…
Bean curd and cheese, Lettuce and Tomato (No bacon), eugh.
I’ll make my own snacks, thanks.

DrFate #fundie

“WOMEN HAVE TO BE AWARE OF THE POTENTIAL CONSEQUENCES OF THEIR ACTIONS.”
They are very aware that men can’t be trusted, but if a man is inclined to rape, he’ll do it whatever she’s wearing, even a burqa.

“She is not respecting the feelings of males in the general population.”
You’re saying some men are just HELPLESS to resist committing a felony if a woman dresses provocatively.
Why would anyone with self-control respect that miscreant’s feelings?
You really can’t simultaneously say men deserve respect AND men are unthinking, uncontrolled animals like a bull seeing a red flag.

“Some, many, have very poor control over themselves.”
Ever see Apocalypse Now? The USO show? A Playboy playmate dances and sex-starved soldiers rush the stage, out of control?
Why doesn’t that happen more in stripper clubs? Or dance halls? These ‘out of control’ men seem to avoid a lot of conflict and direct scrutiny, with enough control to wait until she’s alone. Weird, that.

"Older cultures know this, so they require women to dress modestly.”
These would be the cultures that treat women as a man’s property and see rape as taking something from the man, right?
Not something I’d want to emulate.

"If you dress like a hooker do not be surprised if peopl e react to you as if you are a hooker.”
Try to keep up, you’re apologizing for rape.
Treating a woman like a hooker means asking for prices and if she says no, then you go elsewhere to find a real hooker.

“Do not be suprised if some male with poor control over himself sexually assaults you...”
Trust me, they’renot surprised. But they still do not excuse the felony.

“US norms are now pretty disrespectful of the sensibilities of the male population.”
Speaking as a man who’s raped exactly 0 people in 63 years, fuck male sensibiities if they’re justification for rape.

“They are playing with fire and sometimes they get burned."
And still need to put that fire out. The men are not excused. And the men are the only ones crossing the line to illegal acts.

Stan and Elizabeth Madrak #fundie

DaveScot #fundie

“In the same manner as when the National Center for Selling Evolution (NCSE) talks about the theory of evolution they mean that God is a superstitious fantasy and living things are really all just purposeless bags of chemicals - assembled by cosmic accident.”
Nope. Science is neutral on the supernatural. Individuals may have a personal opinion, but the science says absolutely fuck-all about the gods. So when the institution talks about the theory, they’re talking abotu the science, you just insist on adding God as a connotation to the science.

You’re wrong.

And the entire POINT of ID is to slip God into the classroom… That’s why it wasdeveloped, to put a lab coat on creationism. It’s obvious from the way that creationist talking points are copied into ID textbooks.

Every time it gets taken to court, they insist that it’s SCIENCE IT’S SCIENCE IT’S SCIENCE! And every time it’s kicked to the curb, they cry that ’you’ve kicked GOD out of schools! AGAIN!’

Not at ALL like the actual proponents of the actual theory of evolution,

I hope that clears things up for you.”

Incel Gamer #wingnut

“I hate how actual violent incels are giving our community a bad name.”
Yes, yes, they’re the bad ones, not you. Of course, you still identify WITH that community, no matter how ‘violent’ they become, huh?

“Sure, we talk about wanting to go ER and exterminate all foids in Minecraft. But would we actually do that?”
Then why did you add ‘in Minecraft’ to your summary?
I mean, that comment fools no one. Your members talk about rape, murder, acid-splashing, concentration camps, fucking corpses, slavery, and reducing women to property… Why did you make sure you’re not legally responsible for what you say other men say? In Minecraft?

“No. We're not murderers. (Except for maybe the 1% of users on here who would).”
Exactly what is it about the incel post that wouldmake me think most or even a large fraction of you guys ‘would never.’??
You cheer ER and you share the darkest fantasies and you want to fuck virgin minors because you think life owes you pussy.

“Also, our forum is for sure getting watched by incel "researchers" so I hope they get blackpilled while trying to research us.”
I don’tthink anyone taking an honest look at you guys is in danger of joining you…

Ace/Alexandra Bruce #wingnut #crackpot #conspiracy

So, a few years ago, the right was VERY upset that we were sending arms to Ukraine.
I mean, it was old stuff, just about to be obsolete. it would cost more to make it compatible with the newer systems than it would to buy new. So we put it where someone would point it at Russia, doing us all the good with no real cost to us.
The GOP was upset, claiming we were stripping our military of arms, leaving the US defenseless.

Trump is ordering us to empty to stockpiles at Iran. Good stuff, too, top of the line. But no one’s complaining that we’ll be defenseless if anyone actually threatens the US that we’ll have to admit to? Weird…

bob d #fundie

“Why do people attack Christianity like that?”
Attention spans?

“Why do they distort the truth? Sure, Christianity has been used to do bad stuff in the past, but that is only because people can be bad.”
Yes, but people can perform some AMAZING acts of evil if they think it’s what their god wants.

"It's NOT the religion that's bad, it's the SOME of the people who follow it.”
So, right now, the mortality rate for pregnant women, in the states that have fully banned abortion, is shooting through the roof. In some cases it’s so bad the state stopped publishing the numbers.
They’re still dying.

“Religion does not kill people, people kill people.”
Nope. The people that made the decision to ban abortion are doing it exactly because they think it’s in the Bible. It’s the religion that is driving this, not the people.

“Do you agree?”
Not even slightly.

Ace/Alexandra Bruce #wingnut #crackpot #conspiracy

“Iran has repeatedly refused to end their nuclear ambitions and to hand over their enriched uranium.”
Too bad we don’t still have that treaty we signed under Obama, but Trump pulled us out of…
Odd how actions have consequences.

Mike #fundie

“Many believe in evolution for the simple reason that they think science has proven it to be a fact and, therefore, it must be accepted.”
Evolution has been observed. Evolution does happen. Evolution IS a fact.
Maybe you mean the THEORY of evolution? But while that’s incredibly well supported, it’s not and can’t be a fact. It’s a difficulty.
It’s like gravity, though. Things fall. That’s a fact. The theory of gravity that tries to explain it isn’t a fact, but it’s a pretty solid theory.

“In recent years, a great number of people having finally been persuaded to make a real examination of the problem of evolution, and have become convinced of its flaws and are now convinced anti-evolutionists."
When you say ‘great number’ how many is that? And what percentage is that of the overall demographic of ‘people with science degrees working in science jobs’?

"People who dont do any research of their own and just accept what they've been told.”
Like you accepting that Henry Morris was a former evolutionist.

triumphantlamb #fundie

“1. Listen publicly to Christian music.”
Thumpers on the boat uses to load the CD changer with gospel music, set it to play, and then leave. Good way to get your CD glued to the bulkhead.

“3. Constantly hum or sing hymns.”
Okay, but be ready for people to sing metal back at you…

“4. Find a way to work quotes from scripture into every conversation.”
And never be invited to any conversation…

“5. Always have a pocket bible on your person, and read it at every opportunity.”
I used to have a little plastic mouse in my uniform pocket at all times. When i told the guys ‘we need to accomplish this today,’ they’d ask, ‘We? You got a mouse in your pocket?’ And I’d show them Minnie. And then direct them as their LPO, ordering them to do the job.

“6. If you have cable/satellite and DVRs,"
How is this witnessing?

“7. If you have iTunes, subscribe to and listen to podcast sermons, like WOTM, Desiring God, Truth for Life, John MacArthur, etc.”
My dad forbid them to play country music in the pharmacy when they were working. He’d be mixing the drugs and then he’d get a headache. He’d find the radio on an annoying station and eventualy threw the radio out the window.

"10. Hand out tracts and witness to strangers when you're out and about with them.”
Brave. Usually the tracts are left by the littering missionaries, not brave enough to witness to actual people.

rs41 #fundie

“We do not let our kids watch, listen or read anything to do with witchcraft.”
Yeah, that always works. Won’t make them curious about what they’re not allowed to know about.

“After I was saved one of the first things I was led to do was throw all of my Stephen King books away.”
So, not all THAT saved if you’re that vulnerable to (checks notes)…fiction. I mean, I got my shots so that I won’t die of COVID, but you don’t think being washed int he blood of the lamb is going to stick in the face of (rereads notes)…fiction. Obvious fiction. Clearly presented as non-factual fiction.

Just think about this, every vampire in ’Salem’s Lot is afraid of the cross. Would Satan write a story where holy water and crosses WORKED?

wyldcard6 #fundie

“however to kill off the child is to say we know better than God.”
This is the God who provides the rules for slavery, directs men to take virgins as sex slaves after genocide, and directs stoning kids for lipping off?
Yeah, gotta say I certainly think I know better than that guy.

John Volkmann #fundie

“It is truly a shame that we are indoctrinated and inundated by the 'theory of evolution' when the truth is creation.”
Too bad then, that God made sure to create all that evidence for evolution.

“If just one of the ten tax dollars spent on trying to prove evolution was spent on scientist trying to prove creation we would be swimming in scientific proof of a young earth.”
Creation is supernatural. Science is naturalistic. You cannot scientifically prove the supernatural.
Also, not sure what you think the government budget is for evolution research. But it’s a lot less.

“Remember, just because the majority believe in evolution doesn't mean their right.”
No, of course not.
No one really says ’it’s true because more than half of all educated adults accept it,’ as evidence for it. On the other hand, the people who work directly with the evidence for evolution are more than 99% convinced it’s real.

“At one time the world thought the earth was flat. They were wrong then also...”
You mean people who take Genesis literally were NOT CORRECT? Imagine that…

KenNielsen #fundie

“My computer was broken and I prayed that God would fix it.”
I have an action figure of Elvira. I used to take her on patrol on the submarine. Once, the computer that programs the missiles stopped working. I cycled power and told it to work or i’d have Elvira kick its ass.
It worked.

What a wonderful Movie Hostess. She truly does care for us in even the little things.

Inbred Genius #racist

“Religions don't mix,”
The entire point of New Age is to take what works for you from any religion that appeals. I knew a Catholic Wizard who counted his spells and prayers to be the same thing.
And while priests of any two religions will yell at each other about dogma, if monks of two religions meet, they share the experience of the divine quite well.

“and races don't mix.....”
History shows you’re wrong. At least, people who don’t get all het up about the other person’s religion or race get along fine.

“Muslims will not live happily ever after with non muslims, and blacks will not live happily ever after with whites, same with mexicans, japanese, jews, asians, etc.”
I’ve been happily married for 40 years. At the very least your absolutism is false.

“Thats why God put different races on their own continents, in the beginning, and now we've all mixed and mingled, and you see the result,”
We’re all mixed but you JUST SAID they don’t mix.
Fractally wrong.

“the hate, killing and distrust.”
Exists but not only across racial or religious lines.

“Japs pretty much have their little island to themselves, them and the Chinamen seem to manage to live without other races or religions,”
So, you’ve never seen the Conspiracy theorists saying that Hiroshima had the greatest concentration of Christains in all of Japan, huh?

“so they may have a chance in the long run, but all the other countries that have mixed religions and races will not survive.”
Yes, yes, that’s what took down the Roman Empire…mixing and mingling.

supersport #fundie

“can any of you atheists explain scientifically how or why you are alive at this very moment?”
Okay, so there was that time a truck’s brakes failed and it was running down the street right towards me? And I jumped back on the sidewalk and DID NOT DIE.
And that’s why i’m here and not in an urn.

“What is it that makes your brain be "on" and have the ability to think, see, breath and simply "be?"”
Biology.

“Indeed, there is no scientific explanation for being alive....which is why evolutionary science is a sham to explain life.”
Evolution doesn’t explain life it explains the diversity of life. Man, what a dipshit.

Justin Shanahan (I LOVE TECHNO, TRANCE, RAVE..etc) #fundie

“dating is a sin,”
She turned you down, huh?

“what we all should do is wait on GOD to bring our spouse together.”
Yes, yes, pray for the Supreme Naturist to put an appropriate mate in your habitat that you might reproduce. Good idea.

Brick Wall Bandito #fundie

If we’re going to teach the controversy and let the student decide, would you support the same approach to communism, socialism, capitalism?
How about the Constitution, Oral law (monarchy), and anarchy?
Teach the benefits of barter over currency?
Teach sex the same way we teach cooking in home ec?

LifeinJesus #fundie

“I am surprised that men do not hysterically laugh
At the preposterous notion of evolution.”
I’m guessing your definition of ‘evolution’ is more of a caricature, which deserves laughter.

“Seems any lie will do for those who reject God’s Word as true;
Surely this is the reason they cling to such fables.”
Someone who believe in the talking snake story calling science a fable is beyond irony.

“As if saying it happened billions of years ago
Lends credibility to this adult fairy tale.”
Yes, yes, you like your superstition more than science which is so HARD.

"That evidence backs creation is not what men want to hear.”
You have a book. Largely anonymous. With stories. That’s anecdotal, not evidence.

“For they neither want to answer to their Creator,
Nor acknowledge their sins in humility and repentance.”
You think we KNOW that there’s an omniscient judge and choose to think we can fool him? And WE’RE the confused ones?

“They would rather think “chance” brought them into existence.
This theory is not scientific, nor does it make sense.”
PRATTs. Just creationist stereotypes. Got anything original?

Timmothy #fundie

“I wonder how it feels to live in a world without faith,”
Pretty much teh same as it did when I believed.

“not being able to count on anything or anybody.”
I count on my brakes because I don’t need to believe in god to believe in engineers.
I count on my wife because we support each other whether or not god exists.
I count on coca cola because I don’t need a God to explain sugar.
Your mileage may vary. That’s your problem.

“I wonder if it is depressing.”
Not really. I mean, even before I stopped believing in God i realized that he didn’t HAVE to answer my prayers. That was depressing.

Ilovecartoons #fundie

"The local decrease is ALWAYS temporary, which is what Evolution DOESN'T require. You have to keep defying continually.”
Yes. And in this case define ‘temporary’ in terms of people who talk about how long the universe exists. Like, lifetime of a star is temporary in comparison.

“The 2 law says anything LEFT TO IT'S OWN DEVICES tends toward DISORDER. Adding energy does NOT do anything unless the energy is AVAILABLE FOR USE.”
You’re misusing ALL CAPS.
Yes. if Earth was alone in the universe, it’d tend towards disorder.
But it’s not.
As long as sunlight shines on the Earth, we don’t have to worry about the 2LoT

Steve (NagZul) #fundie

“Its up to us to take care of the fetus before its fully grown, its not fair that we kill him before he finishes his growth..”
This would hit a lot harder if the same people weren’t so intent on stopping SNAP and free school lunches and child healthcare and maternity healthcare…

(unknown) #fundie

Seems to me that the ‘hanged his self’ story concentrates on the guilt Judas felt. Okay, fine.

The ‘fell down and burst apart’ story, by itself, claims divine judgment on Judas. But if the hanging rope broke and the rotting corpse fell apart, that’s nothing supernatural about the story. And it ignores Judas’ guilt. And suicide. And the rope.

The Bible says that every verse is important and useful for instruction. What, exactly, is the lesson to take from ACTS if it’s only half the story from MATTHEW? After you betray Jesus and die your body may leave a messy corpse…?

Mrs. Debbie #fundie #racist

“Obviously God made different races for a reason so why would He want one race to be the same as another?”
Total bullshit.
I mean, I grew up watching race riots on TV where the two sides were clear. White cops and black civilians. Or white Klansmen and black people.
Then I see news about the racial strife in European countries where both sides look alike to me…
I learn about the Klan treating Irish and Italians as a different race. Until they decided that they needed to claim Greeks and Romans were white so they could say we invented civilization.
It’s not god that made the races, it’s people pointing at stupid shit and saying ’They’re DIFFERENT!’

People complained about the 2nd black Playmate to have a Playboy centerfold. But not the first, she was so light-skinned no one noticed. But according to the one-drop rule, she’s black. She’s different. You just have to read the footnotes to notice.

Blaming God for your racism doesn’t make you any less racist. Just even more stupid.

CL_2_D_uppa_room #fundie

Faulty #fundie

“Evolutionists are so bizarre.”
I am but not for accepting science.

“They think we are screwy for believing in creation, when creation simply says, 'God did it'.”
Um, yes. But you believe in creation because one or more authority figures showed you a book you don’t fully understand that says once upon a time god did it and you can trust me because I was there, and it’s all literally true unless that’s a problem then it’s poetry.

“Not really all that hard to comprehend.”
No, it’s really not.
Of course, most knock-knock jokes are easy to comprehend. Doesn’t mean they’re historically true…

“But to bend, twist, and contort the way evolutionists do to try to make things fit, then claim it as some sort of science, is just absurd.”
Total bullshit.
Either you don’t understand the answers you get or you don’t intend to understand the answers you get.

Jersey Girl #fundie

“Take the belief in evolution.”
For how much? I’ll take ‘belief in evolution’ for $500, Alex.

“Most people who believe in evolution do so because they were told that it is scientific fact.”
Do you have any numbers to support this impression of yours?
Because what I remember from school is that they said ‘this happened’ and the rest of the chapter was ‘and this is how we figured that out.’ So, I was not TOLD it was a fact, i was shown that it was science.

“People have a bad habit of believing what others tell them instead of searching for the truth.”
Which is why you and everyone else can’t teach their superstition as fact in schools.

“Be careful what others tell you.”
Okay, I am officially leery of what you’re putting out.

“I’ll give you an example. Most psych textbooks and psych professors will talk about the placebo effect and how powerful it is. Study after study has been done on this phenomena and in most cases the placebo works just as well or better than the treatment, simply because the people involved believe they are receiving the treatment.”
It’s a bit more complicated than that. But, yes, we can alleviate some symptoms, but it doesn’t change their blood count or heal a broken bone.

“Most Christians will tell you that once we find Jesus/Yeshua/Jehovah/Yahweh/God it is like we had just been told we had been given a placebo all our lives.”
I have never, ever heard a CHristain phrase it like this. Where DO you get these ‘most’ statistics?

“We were instantly awakened to the truth and left with a feeling of awe that we had actually been duped into believing all the things we had been indoctrinated with since kindergarten.”
Weird how most people are taught their religion from birth and grow up into it, and you’re describing your faith as a ‘road to Damascus’ thing.

“That is just one way that I believe Jesus restores sight to the blind.”
So…metaphoric sight to the metaphorically blind.
Yeah, that’s stupid.

NowAlive #fundie

“I am looking at it this way, they're internet 'Romans' carrying out their persecutions of Christians.”
So, Jesus was nailed to a tree. Stabbed in the gut. Tortured, whipped, buried in a restricted cemetery.
Early Christains were thrown to the lions.
Some Christains burned other Christains at the stake for being the wrong flavor of Christain.
Even today, Catholics in Europe won’t let nonCatholics be buried in their cemeteries…and they own all the cemeteries. Kinda hard for missionaries to recruit, there.

You were… (checks notes) … quoted.
And not even out of context, there’s a link to the full context.
Not plagiarized, you’re identified by name… And there’s a link to your post.
And you feel… Persecuted.

Jesus must be SO proud of how steadfastly you… (scrolls up) call your critics names.
Because of the persecution.
No lions involved, no pyres, no stakes, no crown of thorns.
Just…

Quoted.

Which no one knows about unless they come here.

Liz #fundie

“To not believe an incubus attack can happen because demons don't exist is such a narrow, ignorant view.”
Well, I do not believe incubi attacks ever happen because I have never seen any evidence that requires a demon to exist.

“I'm writing this now at 3:30am because I'm afraid to fall asleep.”
Oh, yes, such a compelling state of mind to convince other people with.

“I experienced an attack last night - It wasn't a person, it was evil and unlike a person, it can get away with it.”
Aren’t there steps you can take to convince yourself you’re protected? White candles, a circle of salt, teddy bears to eat the monsters?

“It's the scariest thing that I've ever experienced.”
Ah.
One of my kids had a fever of 107, once. That was scary.
Water was coming into the sub a few times that we couldn’t isolate. THOSE were scary.
My wife drank my last Coke one night.
I have several times in winter touched lightly on the brakes and had no influence on the car’s movement.
But you were, what, dreaming about sex? Yeah, yeah, same thing.

“There are more things going on in this life than what we can see.”
And you have evidence this ‘thing going on’ took place outside of your own mind? Really?

“Rather than opening your eyes wider, try closing them so you can feel what's around you. Then you'll know...”
Ignore the lack of evidence until you feel the evidence… That’s compelling.

Prometheusaurus #racist

“Racism is a natural occurrence.”
Is that a plus or a minus?

“It has been proven over and over again that White children naturally gravitate to their own race and are put off by other races.”
But, have they actually determined that the infants are upset by the race, or just don’t understand why people of another color are people?
Not too long ago, Racists in the US considered Irish and Italian people to be a different race from Whites. Do white babies reflect this racist attitude? If not, then racism isn’t all that ‘natural.’

My kids mostly seemed to separate people into ‘mama’ which meant ‘parent’, and ‘dada’ which meant ‘anyone who feeds me.’

“It's only after extreme and continual brainwashing that we abandon this.”
Odd way to say ‘maturity.’

Hippesq #transphobia

“Sure, I occasionally indulge in the momentary fantasy of my daughter as a detransitioner, someone who came to her senses, and realized the whole attempt to play-act at being male is, at best, pointless folly, and, at worst, Guantanamo Bay level psychological and physical torture. But I don’t dwell in that place.”
But you keep going back to it, and shining a spotlight on the malicious demonization.
You don’t get points for pretending it’s momentary, these are the opinions you carry 24/7.

“Besides, even thinking of my daughter as a detransitioner is still acknowledging that she’ll never not be someone touched by “trans,” just as an addict is always an addict.”
What an incredibly progressive view. When you die alone, don’t pretend it’s a surprise to anyone.

“She’ll always be touched by trans -”
He IS transgendered, not infected.

sing Him a song #fundie

“Contraception is wrong! That is taking a future unborn baby's life into your own hands, or you and your spouse's hands.”
In that case, so is abstinence. Every day you go without sex is another life you did NOT make.
For that matter, so is fidelity for men. SO Many women they COULD be impregnating by having the sex, but NO, they cleave to the mother of their children.
This is a really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really stupid claim.

“Nope..sorry, but you aren't the Almighty One and that's NOT your job.”
And what makes YOU the one to tell me what my job isn’t?

“Not to sound rude, but it wouldn't kill today's society to learn self-discipline!!!”
Any woman who is not pregnant right this very second, unless she’s nursing, has plenty of self-discipline. Shut your fucking piehole.

Grand Pbuh #fundie

“Masturbation is sex with yourself”
Okay. I’d say it was more ‘at’ myself, but go ahead.

“and since you are the same sex as yourself,”
Ah. That’s kind of reaching, though.

“masturbation is homosexuality”
No, it’s really not.
I don’t stroke my dick because I’m sexually attracted to dick.
It’s just a means to an ending. A fairly happy ending, really.
There are just no dicks at all in the images I masturbate to.
I am not attracted to the same sex.
I’m thinking of body parts I do not share the ENTIRE time.
This doesn’t qualify as homosexuality by any sane definition.

Tell me, if you were jailed unjustly, but while inside were raped by people of the same sex as you, THAT is homosexuality, but are you then a homosexual?
The ACT is not the definition, it’s the desire.

“and forbidden in the Bible. As well as by my own sensibilities.”
I could really give a fuck about the Bible OR about your sensibilities.

cherokeenation #fundie

“I listened to your entire ranting. I can’t help but wonder, why are you taking the time to do this?”
For the chicks, obviously.

“ Are you afraid of death?”
I’d rather avoid it as long as i can, sure.

“ Afraid of Christians?”
I distrust what Christains want to force me to do.

“Afraid of God?”
Meh. About as afraid of God as of Lex Luthor.

“What motivates you?”
Sex and LEGO playsets, mostly.

“Hate God if you must,”
Don’t.

“that’s your right, but why hate the Christians.”
The people trying to legislate their superstition so that I have to live as if i share it? Can’t imagine why….

“Aren’t they harmless?"
As the number of women dying in the pregnancies caused by rapes in states that forbid all abortions…

“I know they used to be fed to lions, torn apart by teams of horses and suffered many other forms of death and torture, simply because they were Christians. I thought we were past all that. Do you want that to return?

You do know that when the Christains took over the Empire, they threw pagans to the same lions for the same reason, right? For not being of the sanctioned religion?
Yeah, not a point of pride for your side.

Dani #fundie

“You don't know what is wrong with a display celebrating sodomy during Christmas time?”
No, no, no, it’s celebrating homosexual citizens during SOLSTICE.
Or maybe Saturnalia.
You don’t even own the DAY that Christmas falls on, much less the whole season.

Jim Olsen, Republican Oklahoma State Representative #forced-birth #fundie

“How confident are you that it is always wrong, 100% of the time, for 17-year-olds to get married?”
100%? No. Not if they’re marrying another 17 year old, or 18, or 19.

34? 100%.

"How old was Mary when she married Joseph?”
Who cares? Theydidn’t get married in Oklahoma.

Derrick Hildebrant, Republican Oklahoma State Representative #forced-birth #fundie

“Hebrews 13:4 – ‘Let marriage be held in honour among all.’ Does ‘among all’ now only mean those who are 18 and older?”
Doesn’t fucking matter.
We don’t legislate your superstition sourcebook.
The law says what it says, you can either justify your faith to it or rationalize it away. But you’re still subject to it.

John Hawkins #wingnut #transphobia #racist #fundie #elitist #sexist #homophobia

" People who want to change sexes should be treated by a psychologist"
They are.
The most successful treatment for their condition is transition.
You’re behind the times and low on the science.

“2) Most people who remain poor over the long haul in America stay that way because of their own poor life choices.”
Like joining the all-volunteer army, getting wounded in a generation-long war that accomplished nothing, and being homeless now because the Army got them hooked on pain killers. Yeah, I love blaming them for being poor, as if they had much of a choice after the swearing-in.

“7) Life begins at conception and having an abortion is no morally different than strangling your baby in the crib.”
Hmmm. Bible says life begins at first breath. This is why stillborn babies can’t be buried in Catholic cemeteries.

“8) Most liberals aren’t patriotic and they don’t love their country.”
Yeah, I trust a bigot to know my motivations and my patriotism. Fuck you, and I say this as a 20-year Navy veteran you brain dead self congratulating booby.

“9) Our soldiers should make every effort to avoid civilian casualties, but when it comes right down to it, the life of an American soldier should be treated as more important than the life of a foreign civilian.”
This is pretty much endorsing war crimes.
.
“12) This is a Christian nation”
An absolute lie and a crime against history.

"16) Nine times out of ten, a mother and father will do a considerably better job of raising a child than a single mother, a single father, two gay parents or their grandparents.”
I was working a suicide hotline in Norfolk when the cops got a report from a babysitter who found four beds but only three children. One had been beaten to death by their heterosexual parents and hidden out back in a tool chest. Please show support for this being less than ten percent of child outcomes…

"18) People who are homeless over the long term are overwhelmingly mentally ill or have substance abuse problems and the only thing we can really do to help them is round them up, put them into halfway houses and force them to get treatment in spite of themselves.”
YES! Let’s make a point of paying for the healthcare and mental care of the homeless! YES! GOOD PLAN!
More than a little christ-like for most Christains, but good idea!

“19) If you have good character, you should feel ashamed of taking food stamps, taking welfare, or being on a school lunch program.”
Being ashamed doesn’t make them any less necessary.

Dr. Bob Griffin #fundie

“If it [slavery] is NOT condemned in Scripture,”
Not at all.
But it does condemn oysters, so we got that going for us.

“then where to we find the moral basis to justify our moral outrage against it?”
Empathy? Socialization? Basic human rights? Anything but superstition?

“.. Just because you or I or some group finds something "morally offensive", if it doesn't have a base in the Bible, we are on thin ice.”
No. Not at ALL.
Very few of the strictures in the Bible are explained.
WHY don’t we take God’s name in vain? Is it doing him harm? is it harming me? Is it just his pride that’s affected? Is it going to lead to the collapse of society, dogs and cats living together, people singing off key?

Morality is doing the right thing for the right reasons. If your ONLY reason for doing something is because you think an omnipotent being wants you to, that’s not moral, that’s just a leash.