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All that juicy legislation brought into being by an orange… being. Enjoy the next five months, because after the midterms, the fact that the Democrats will control the Senate & HoR will be the least of your problems. Two years from this November, when since then Don Old Fart will be nothing more than lame duck a l’orange: and the only power it’ll actually have - if it dares show its vile face there - is to open the 2028 Los Angeles Olympics. 12 midday 20th January 2029.

Oppression of the right: certainly after this year’s midterms and power is shifted away from Republicans? In the words of ol’ Ronnie Raygun, ‘You ain’t seen nothing yet’.

Why shouldn’t all those juicy laws previously used to oppress those not exactly like you be used against the likes of you, OP…?!

zZzZ #fundie

"we believe that God dscended maidens from heaven for them to marry.. and it makes more sense to me..”
First off, that makes Creation suboptimal, if God needed to ‘fix’ it later. I mean, it’s a good thing that the contractor keeps coming back until the customer is satisfied with the redecoration, but you can’t say that a perfect God looked around on the 6th day and saw that it was ‘Good.’
MAYBE he said ’it’s IAW the contract’? But not perfect.

Also, if wives were not Adam’s daughters, then Eve was not ‘The Mother of All.’
Many, sure, but not all. Maybe it was Adam and Judith, mother of All except for those girls, and those girls, and those other girls…

Arthur P Malorzo #wingnut #dunning-kruger

Col. Tom Parker ran a business.

Did he have the legal right to be in the US…?!

All those from other countries allowed into the US since 12 midday 20th January 2025.

You’d better expect them to not have sex with women - or men if they’re women from overseas - in the US: because you’re gonna have an issue with every issue there.

Despite a loaded SCOTUS, it’s just been decided by those who were loaded there by an orange… thing. That which has just been proven to be constitutional: and you don’t like it?

You voted for it, OP.

Opera Princess #fundie

“Don't speak too soon. We have "freedom of religion" yet people have been expelled for praying in school,”
No. You’ve always been able to pray in school, if only because there are math tests. You can’t LEAD prayer, which is different. Did you mean people who broke the rules and lead prayer with a captive audience? That’s violating the religious freedom of the audience.

“we're not allowed to use the name of Jesus in public prayers.”
Bullshit. If you’re leading a public prayer, like a Senate chaplain, they would expect you to pray to the god you worship. OR, they weren’t offended by the name of Jesus, they were offended that you were leading a prayer.

“We have "freedom of speech" yet if we speak up against gay rights, we are accused of "hate crimes".”
Freedom of speech does NOT mean you don’t face any consequences for being a hateful bitch.

“God has blessed America”
But he hasn’t spoken to anyone without a lisp since Moses…

“ and we're a great country but we're turning on God.”
No, we’re a secular country and you can’t stand having to share.

“What makes you think that he will continue to bless a country who has started to curse him?”
I frankly don’t think any god is going to change the way they treat this country.

“ Without God's protection our country COULD fall.”
This is why lightning keeps striking Trump’s appointments…

“ We could loose our freedoms to outside invaders.”
Such as…?

“Or (more likely) we could give up our freedoms.”
You’re complaining about what you think should be your privilege, not your rights. Gro wthe fuck up, wanker.

Sriram #fundie

“There is plenty of evidence for an after-life.”
That you’re convinced doesn’t quite make it evidence.

“Many people just don't want to see it...that is all.”

“Instead of seeing the phenomena for what it is...you want the phenomena to present itself to you in a manner that you think is acceptable. That is not going to happen.”
Seeing? OH! You mean ghosts! Yeah, I believe in ghosts. i grew up in a haunted house. I don’t know what they are, but there were too many personal experiences. I just don’t pretend that any of that shit is objective evidence that other people HAVE to accept.

“The more the scientific community ignores such evidence, the more it is likely to be ignored by the people in the years to come.”
You keep using that word as if you understand it. I don’t think that’s supported.
Thing about ghosts being leftover beings is that there’s no physical basis to give the energy a form. Energy needs a base to hold any pattern, else it dissipates. If a soul is hiding in a brain, and the brain dies, the soul would just break down and discharge.

“Many people today are educated and confident enough to know how far science can go and where it cannot.”
So, which is it? You have evidence or you CANNOT have evidence?

“The word of the scientific community will no longer be 'God's' word, that it hitherto was.”
Not sure what you think you’re talking about. Most scientific discoveries run counter to what’s in the Bible. Global Earth, heliocentrism, evolution, water cycle, can’t clean leprosy by sacrificing a lark…

Arthur P Malorzo #wingnut #dunning-kruger

@Malingspann #258756

I think they’re bitching about other countries paying people to come to America and have an American kid as a widespread problem. I was wondering if there’s any sort of documentation of this sort of shit. I really doubt it.

Wayne #fundie

“For the sake of getting some straight answers from you non-believers, let's assume there really IS no God.”
My position is more a conclusion that none of the gods described by men exist. But go ahead.

“Why is the world in such a mess?”
I’ve met too many people to find this inexplicable. People are scum.

“Now, you can't blame believers of any religion.”
Why not? Believers of God are the ones who gave Trump the key to the Treasury twice. I don’t need to believe in any divine action, just greedy people who ignore the directions they attribute to their god.

“Remember, according to you there IS no God.”
But plenty of theists. Greedy, power-hungry, racist, sexist control freaks who think their God approves of everything they do.

“Why, in all these millions of years, haven't we evolved into a more compassionate people?”
IIRC Margaret Meade said the first sign of civilization she has found was a leg bone that had healed. Someone cared about another enough to keep them alive until they could walk again. We are a compassionate people, by and large.

“Please, use NO reference to God or religions.”
I can reference religion without needing gods to exist. After all, YOU don’t believe that Allah exists, right? Or Shiva? Odin? Plenty of people believe, but they can’t all be right.

DaveScot #fundie

“As all of us who don’t cling to strawman versions of ID know, the only bone we have to pick with that definition is the unguided, unplanned part.”
Because of your bible.
Is there anything in the SCIENCE that shows evidence of guidance? Of a plan?

“We are of the position that evolution, in part or in whole, was a guided or planned process.”
Sure. But that would require a supernatural planner, no? And all of science is naturalistic. So your magic opinion really has no bearing on the scientific definition.

“So how does one go about falsifying unguided evolution? By demonstrating that the process was guided, of course.”
Can you scientifically demonstrate a supernatural influence, though?

“ID is the means by which this theory of unguided evolution can be falsified.”
No. ID is already NOT science by virtue of the magic guide being required. You cannot scientifically show the magic actor.
All you can do is keep rejecting the actual science because it offends your religious sensibilities. That’s not scientifically Kosher.

“If ID cannot be falsified and is itself just religion disguised as science [it's about time they admit that!], where does that leave unguided evolution?”
Last man standing?

“Why it leaves unguided evolution as unfalsifiable pseudo-science.”
no, it’s pretty much the definition of science. NO science is defined as needing a supernatural actor.

Amargi #sexist #crackpot

2nd Smartest Guy in the World/MaryBowdenMD #quack #crackpot #conspiracy

Let me see if I understand this, 2SmartestManInTheRoomWhereHe’sTheOnlyPerson:

You think the world is run by pedophiles.

You think these pedophiles are trying to reduce the number of children on this planet.

You are impossibly stupid in both directions, buddy.

Andrew Wilson #sexist #fundie #psycho

@Timjer #258748
Wilson’s wife has come out to clarify that she was in previous relationships that didnt work out, but that she has “never been promiscuous or been the other woman”. But by Wilson’s standards I think its still hypocritical because according to him, are women allowed to leave relationships, even marriages with children they dont want?

@Timjer #258748

I read that Wilson has three children, two of whom are autistic. If this is true then I really fear for those kids, though Im morbidly curious about whether their parents accept their autism. Fascists are not safe around neurodivergent people.

"its difficult to get a man to understand something when his whole job is to not understand It" -Upton Sinclair

Throwing personal insults at your opponent just means (a) you know she's right, (b) you can't defend your argument, and (c) you've lost control of the conversation.

erikloza #fundie

"The idea of people and trees being related is stupid”
You know trees have DNA just like we do, right?

“because there is no scientific, empirical evidence that supports it.”
Did you ask any biologist about this or just Bananaman?

“Are there fossils that bear aspects of human beings and non-living things, like rocks and trees?"
Oh, a bible literalist. Modern science says trees are alive, while the bible only allows things that breathe through their nostrils to have the Spirit of Life.
And they wonder why so many atheists consider themselves intellectually superior to mouth breathing lip reading finger licking snot eating brain dead creationists…

Arthur P Malorzo #wingnut #dunning-kruger

<@KeithInc.> #258736
“Happens everywhere , people don’t read anymore. They just click.”
Read what, sweetie? Rumors? Fearmongering? Clickbait?

The Constitution?

LaMontre #fundie

“The question is why wont evolutionism acknowledge the other evidence which points to other conclusions.”
There isn’t any. What there is are facts that can be viewed as consistent with creationism, the desired conclusion.

“And even the evidence which stands very strongly AGAINST evolution?”
There isn’t any.

“They actually go so far as to supress it? Why?”
Because your claims are spurious at best, if not lies.

SigmaMu #racist

Nignigmcnig #racist

empathicdesign #wingnut

“…they deleted one of my journals and cited an ambiguous excuse lacking any detail as to why it was removed.”
Okay. And?
It’s a private enterprise, not a government arm. The don’t have to defend your rights to free speech, or provide you a platform for anything. So what’s your real bitch? Someone told you ‘no.’

Starbuck #fundie

Andrew Wilson #sexist #fundie #psycho

“And you lick snizz,” he said, interrupting her.”
Ah. Yes. Vulgarity, ad hominem, slurs, interrupting, and a shouting match. The ACME of a great orator, who can make good points. The zenith of debate, I tell you! The motherfucking ZENITH!

Well, that person you think is ‘stupid’ has - in just a dozen words - utterly destroyed you.

Someone can’t be stupid when it’s impossible for you to repair the damage done to your image worldwide by those twelve lethally intelligent words going viral, Lil’ Andiepoos.

Ah, “debating” with a right-wing asshole (or just idiots in general) is almost like playing chess with a pidgeon; they knock over the entire board and pieces, shit all over it, and then fly away smugly as if they’ve won. The difference is the pidgeon at least has the decency not to throw slurs at you in the process…

But seriously, Andy, I’d rather be gay as fuck and happily married to a LOYAL spouse than be in whatever disloyal and loveless heterosexual relationship you have.

Kudos to Charlie for trying at least. Plus, as opposed to Andy here, she at least does get some pussy…

JaredThaJa2 #fundie

“1. Carbon Dateing can onyl go back 10,000s at the most.”
Yes , quite. This is why creationists who complain about carbon-dating of dinosaur fossils are HILARIOUS in how wrong they are.

“2. All Radiodateing Methods are ase don a very Flawed Concept”
You can’t actually show any flaws in the methodology, though. You just don’t like the results so you reject the science. Kind of the way you guys accuse atheists of rejecting creationism because we’d have to stop sinning.

“3. There are many reaosn why the Earht couldn't posiibly be that Old.”
There’s one. Only one reason. Taking Genesis as literal history.
All else is filtering science to preserve that desired conclusion.

Uwe Boll and Elon Musk #racist

Make it a movie about a Mexican immigrant wiping out a CP distribution ring run by white South Africans while lecturing them on how little they appreciate the gift of being allowed in a country of laws and rights like America and Elon’s going to see the problem real fucking quick. Or hell, not even vigilante violence make it a crime thriller about a legitimate police investigation into a sex trafficking ring that hides behind money, fake visa designations, and “technicalities” of the law that only slide because of preferential racial treatment to whites and he’ll feel really “racially” targeted real fast even if the focus is more on the money than being a criminal from a foreign country bringing crime into every other country he touches. And the unfortunate fact that whites really do dominate the global criminal landscape concerning sex trafficking and crimes against children. And financial crimes, but nobody ever talks about that very seriously outside of the “Indian scammer” very pointedly OUTSOURCED call centres specifically outsourced so as not to trace back to the actual origin of the scam because white society isn’t “plagued” by it white society is built to FUNCTION off it. And nowadays those scammers are all having their jobs taken by AI. So there’s that.

And considering Uwe Boll’s entire career was based on abusing a German tax loophole (now closed) that rewarded him for failure when he took other people’s intellectual property and made an unrecognizable shitshow of it all it figures he’d be in bed with Musk.

Mr. lImey #fundie

“Ok, retards.”
Oooh! An authority figure! Yes, I want to learn from you, like my wife learns from the 12-year-olds she taught! Speak on, Sensei!

“Time to put this inot views you can understand.”
I doubt you have the capacity to confuse me…

“Abortion is murder, its killing an innocent child.”
Biblically, life begins at first breath, not conception. So it’s not killing.

“When somebody kills a pregnant woman its double murder, but when its "abortion" its not called murder at all!”
This is exactly what pro-choice means. If you shoot a pregnant woman, you’re taking away her choice about carrying the baby to term. So, yeah, that’s a two-fer. This was made quite clear when they first started charging mass-assault perps for murdering the unborn. Oh, but you probably weren’t alive back then, huh?

“You know what? You have no idea what your doing, you go in, kill the fetus, get it takin out of you, and you leave the fuckin shithole ready to fuck and kill another one of God's precious creations!”
I’m pretty sure that everyone’s clear on what they’re doing for an abortion. Well, all the choicers. The anti-abortionists are a little unclear on when the clump of cells becomes ‘a baby.’

“Its murder and its wrong."
Maybe next year, your English teacher wil cover its and it’s.

“Send the kid to an adoption center."
How about to you? You want the kid, you’re going to pay for the kid, just go pick one out.

“Also, the only reason a black child is less likely to be adopted is because Americans are FUCKING RACISTS!”
So? That still means any kid who’s not a healthy white baby when they go up for adoption is very likely to age out of the program and become homeless, a drain on your taxes. So what are you doing to change that?

“I just read the replys you guys posted.”
And?

“Your all fucked up, go die, see you in hell.”
Revilers go to Hell, you know. 1 Corinthians, IIRC.

“Its a child, you may think it isn't, but it is.”
And I’m to take your ignorant word for it?

“Its murder and your fucked in the head if you think it isn't.”
It isn’t, even according to your bible, dumbass.

“It pre-planned so its 1st degree (I'm pretty sure).”
Because you’ve watched cop shows, you know.

“I know your Americans and I find that adorable but pull your head out of your ass and that penis out of your cunt.”
Did your mother drop you a lot? Or drop-kick you?

Amargi #sexist #crackpot

“EI” would look different for each of them.

Just because I have no idea what EI stands for, I’ll take some random guesses…

Electronic instruments? Energetic Italians? Earthly Industry? Enormous Indians? Extreme ignorance? (well, that one could apply to a lot of posts here)

Uwe Boll and Elon Musk #racist

Elon Musk really wants you to watch Citizen Vigilante

I don’t think there’s a phrase that would make me LESS inclined to watch a movie than that one.

AngelRho #fundie

“Not buying it. Sounds too much like a rationalization to me.”
Most pedophiles arguing against age of consent sound like rationalizations to me.

“Children consent to all sorts of things all the time.”
You’re cherry-picking the meaning of ‘consent.’ Legally, they cannot consent,which is why a kid can’t be forced to fulfill a contract if he signs one to buy a car at 98% interest. that salesman has committed abuse.

“Depending on what mood the wife and I are in, like if we're both ambivalent towards doing one activity or another, or maybe we just couldn't care any less, we'll call the oldest into the room, present him with two choices, and let him decide.”
Yes, but if Oldest chooses bubble-gum for dinner you’re neither required not expected to honor that decision. It’s still YOUR decision to make, asking the kid is about as legally compromising as flipping a coin.

Uwe Boll and Elon Musk #racist

writer/director Uwe Boll

And that is why you fail.

pasta67 #wingnut

The only way this even sort of makes sense is if they think that big government is inherently oppressive, “the left” desires big government, and thus trying to use big government to end oppression is counterproductive and perhaps hypocritical? But the original discussion which this quote came from is about whether shooting at police and/or ICE agents should count as terrorism, and it appears to be a non-sequitur even in its original context.

Tutu #sexist #racist

Logan B #ufo #magick #quack #crackpot #conspiracy #mammon

pasta67 #wingnut

“And can I point the dissonance here as you seem to not get it”
No, i think you’re the one who doesn’t ‘get it.’

“- you want to overthrow "oppression"...”
The oppressive government, yes.

“ and AT THE SAME TIME complain that "opressive" government has unfair laws against you?”
That would be WHY we want to overthrow it. or at least the current kakistocracy.

“ If you do not succeed at overthrowing "oppression", expect to be punished like losers, as state has monopoly on violence and is free to punish harshly those that challenge that monopoly.”
Isn’t that what every NRA member claims? We need guns in case we nee to overthrow the oppressivegovernment?

And, as someone else has pointed out, if the government makes a peaceful change impossible it makes a violent change inevitable.

Arthur P Malorzo #wingnut #dunning-kruger

“Why ???? Why is it really needed ?”
Since it’s already IN the Constitution, i’d rather ask, what is the nation’s interest in removing/violating it?

“If your country pays pregnant woman to push one out in America , is that not a business?”
Huh? It doesn’t matter if you’re doing it for personal reasons or professional reasons or whatever… Kid born here is a US citizen. IIRC it was created to protect slaves that were born here…

“Happens everywhere , people don’t read anymore. They just click.”
Read what, sweetie? Rumors? Fearmongering? Clickbait?

Uwe Boll and Elon Musk #racist

You endorsed the film “Sound of Freedom”, Elol.

How does it sound to everyone else when you supported that about Tim Ballard: who turned out to be a vile hypocrite.

At least Glen A. Larson made “Battlestar Galactica” and Don Bluth directed “An American Tail”: at least I can respect those LDSers who created stories about immigrants.

That’s why Superman is so popular, one reason being his scenario is an allegory for immigrants. After all: is Kal-El - from Krypton - human…?!

…but then, you’re one to talk Elongated Muskrat: an immigrant from South Africa.

Old Man #fundie

“Women make 2x as much money on divorce as on getting married.”
How do you figure? While we’re married, she has access to everything we own.
On a divorce, she can only count on getting half of what we own.
So, a share in 100% of our value, or 50% of our value.

I don’t think you’ve done the math, you’re just upset that you have to give her ANYTHING for leaving you.

“Its the same precedence of desire over reason”
So, greed?

“that causes women to get divorced.”
But that doesn’t work, either. It’s far greedier to just outlive me and get it all.

“But why is it unreasonable?”
Well, if all she cares about is my money, then it’s more logical AND more profitable to start cooking my food with arsenic. Or digitalis in my drink.

“For the same reason as it was unreasonable for Eve to eat the fruit.”
Well, Woman ate the apple because she had no means of reasoning that it was wrong. She did not know right from wrong, nor did she have the capacity to think it through.
Real women outside of fairy tales tend not to have that problem, so your analogy fails as bad as your math.

Logan B #ufo #magick #quack #crackpot #conspiracy #mammon

@JeanP #258721

Now THAT’S a story. Basics is immortal alchemist/lightworker/original white hat/etc St. Germain knew the Great Awakening/Alien bingo would happen and he ferreted away quadrillions monies in gold to usher in the Abundance, and sometime soon the vaults will open and everyone will get paid. Really. No kidding.

ATHEISTS lack UNDERSTANDING #fundie

“Did those 63 studies who say [atheists are more intelligent] interview the atheists with mental disabilities?”
Probably as many as mentally disabled theists as were interviewed.

“Mentally decapitated people (Lord have mercy on them) don't have an ability to believe in God. That makes them atheists.”
I believed in god growing up. I just got tired of the non-answers from the Believers around me. It’s a mystery, we can’t judge god, you’ll understand one day, and a lot of ‘who are you to dare to question GOD!?!?’
Left that church looking for one with real answers.
And while looking for better, or even different answers one day i realized i’d become an atheist. So, you’re just lying about people who don’t take your threats at face value.

“Did those 63 "studies" miss them when they said atheists are more intelligent than theists?”
Mental problems do not correlate directly to stupidity, you ignorant idiot.

“I call 'biased BS'.”
Of course you do! You don’t like the results, so ALL 63 studies must have been out on purpose to make you look bad…
Of course, if anyone did a study that got different results and could backup the evidence, then the first 63 studies wouldlook really bad, huh?
moron.

Solomon King #fundie #sexist

Donald J. Trump #wingnut #conspiracy

YAY! 4 more years, grow the swamp! 4 more years, grow the swamp! Make DC a gator farm! Import Florida men in bulk!

pasta67 #wingnut

Fine. Monstrous but fine. Just be careful to remember it when you face a violent communist revolution from those you have finally pushed far enough. Hope as you get brutally beaten-raped to death, you’ll smile and remember you are just punished for being a loser.

Uwe Boll and Elon Musk #racist

So, a yank comes over to a third country and starts instantly murdering people and behaving like he owns the place? Say it ain’t so…

ps. Boll and Musk and Hammer, it’s a partnership born in ~~heaven~~ septic tank.

“According to writer/director Uwe Boll”

If enough hadn’t been said already, it has now!