Orthodox_Freethinker #fundie iidb.org

[On the "Crying" Virgin Mary in Sacramento, 'For men who have been seeing hoaxes like this for years, an explanation is impossibly easy.']

Hoax? You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all the time. Do you think that Christians are morons who will believe everything and anything they are told?

Supersojo #fundie youtube.com

Here's a theory. There's a 1% genetic difference between clouds, jellyfish, and a watermelon. (THIS IS A SERIOUS STATEMENT/THEORY) Please, by all means... test it....

I'll announce the spoiler for you. A Jellyfish, a Cloud, and a Watermelon are all 99% water. That last 1% makes a LOT of difference.

wwatts #fundie theologyweb.com

Well when I was not a theist I did pretty much whatever I wanted, ie sleep with as many women as I wanted etc. If I stopped believing in objective moral values I would definitely start doing that one again if I thought that any feeling of it being wrong was just an illusion. Just being honest.

6sidedraftweber #fundie foxnews.com

I find it fascinating that whenever a new "dinosaur" is discovered, they never show the actual excavation but only an artistic representation of what scientists "think" the animal may have looked like. Evolution is definitely running on after-burners big time so those in the evolutionary "camp" keep grabbing at whatever they can to keep up the "propaganda". Remember those old Nation Geographic monkey-to-man diagrams? What a hoot! Evolution is nothing but base thinking and represents scientific retardation, yet it is "true" in the world of "science". Science is supposed to be observable, but this truly is NOT the case for "science".... You just make up goofy ideas and throw in a few "million" and your good. The evolutionary fraud is coming down quick. Earth was utterly destroyed a few thousand years ago and "science" just needs to get over it. God’s Word is true from Genesis to Revelation.

dominikus28 #fundie forums.catholic.com

Would it be moral for the state to punish heresy with the death penalty?

I'm only asking about the moral aspect. So I'm not interested in the likelihood or posibility of any state doing this, but simply if, let's say, Monaco made heresy illegal, would Catholics be able to deny it as immoral? St Thomas Aquinas says that murder of the soul (heresy) is worse thsn murder of the body, and many heretics were killed in the Spanish Inquisition. I know the numbers are greatly exaggerated, but let's be honest, heretics were killed for being heretics, and repentabt heretics were mercifully strangled. ISIS executes those who don't convert to Islam, but that's immoral because islam is wrong. It's a different story when talking about Catholicism because Catholicism is the correct religion. And if you accept that the state exists to help us be more virtuous, then stopping heresy fron spreading using lethal force would be justified.

It probably wouldn't be prudent to kill heretics because ideas can spread over the internet and so on, but again, my question is about the morality of this. So was it moral to kill those heretics back during the Spanish Inquisition?

Bryan Fischer #fundie action.afa.net

[Gene Cranick's rural Tennessee home was allowed to burn to the ground by the fire department because he never paid a $75 fee for being just outside of the city limits.]

The fire department did the right and Christian thing. The right thing, by the way, is also the Christian thing, because there can be no difference between the two. The right thing to do will always be the Christian thing to do, and the Christian thing to do will always be the right thing to do.

If I somehow think the right thing to do is not the Christian thing to do, then I am either confused about what is right or confused about Christianity, or both.

In this case, critics of the fire department are confused both about right and wrong and about Christianity. And it is because they have fallen prey to a weakened, feminized version of Christianity that is only about softer virtues such as compassion and not in any part about the muscular Christian virtues of individual responsibility and accountability.

The Judeo-Christian tradition is clear that we must accept individual responsibility for our own decisions and actions. He who sows to the flesh, we are told, will from the flesh reap corruption. The law of sowing and reaping is a non-repealable law of nature and nature’s God.

We cannot make foolish choices and then get angry at others who will not bail us out when we get ourselves in a jam through our own folly. The same folks who are angry with the South Fulton fire department for not bailing out Mr. Cranick are furious with the federal government for bailing out Wall Street firms, insurance companies, banks, mortgage lenders, and car companies for making terrible decisions. What’s the difference?

Mr. Cranick made a decision - a decision to spend his $75 on something other than fire protection - and thereby was making a choice to accept the risk that goes with it. He had no moral, legal, ethical or Christian claim on the services of the fire department because of choices that he himself made.

Scott D #conspiracy universalpictures.com

...The infamous NASA Blue Beam Project has four different steps in order to implement the new age religion with the antichrist at its head. We must remember that the new age religion is the very foundation for the new world government, without which religion the dictatorship of the new world order is completely impossible. I'll repeat that: Without a universal belief in the new age religion, the success of the new world order will be impossible! That is why the Blue Beam Project is so important to them, but has been so well hidden until now....

David J. Stewart #fundie jesus-is-savior.com

Judaism is Satanic! Judaism is a lie of the Devil because it denies that Jesus is the Christ (the Messiah). I will not speak quietly or beat-around-the-bush concerning any doctrine or belief that diminishes my Friend, Creator, God, and Savior... Jesus Christ! Jesus is Almighty God according to the Bible! Judaism denies the Bible. Judaism teaches damnable heresies. Judaism is a myth.

Am I anti-Semitic? Absolutely NOT!

truth radio #fundie kent-hovind.com

so it's totally wrong, bogus, and some bold faced lie that some professor told you that the Earth receives energy (from the Sun) and that is how (evolution) overcomes the Second Law (of Thermodynamics). It's just a bold face lie. It is true we receive energy but it is not going to overcome the Second Law.

dorrie #fundie wnd.com

SAT, that happened because this administration is trying to decimate our military and the best way to do it is from within. They know that people will stop re-enlisting or even enlisting to begin with if they have to face sharing barracks and showers with homosexuals/lesbians. When I was in the Army, it was still illegal, but if a lesbian had come onto one of the women in the shower, she would probably have ended up missing. That's how the military takes care of that kind of thing. (Friendly fire in war zones) The entire thing demoralizes everyone involved - and that's Obama's reasoning. A demoralized military is totally incapable of protecting the country. There have already been NUMEROUS cases of troops being bullied by homosexuals! It's so disturbing that the "Commander in Chief" should be the one taken to task over this mess!

SmokinJoe1977 #fundie rr-bb.com

We all know what happened after 9/11, and I can't imagine what kind of horrific scenes willl occur right at the second of the Rapture...

Just about ALL vehicals will crash, power outages, and people will be in chaos. everyone will lose someone in the Rapture, if they are left behind... People need to be ready, get your soul ready. Because, the Rapture is very near...

Closer than we even think, because, we are witnessing Jews returning to their land. Its not going to be a pretty sight when we as christians leave this earth, when Jesus comes to get us.

Look, up in the sky, its a bird, its a plane, no.... Its Jesus Christ the Lord and Savior!

asbesttes #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Uh , buddy why dont u read about hitler. Ill get the name of the murderer for u tomorrow and then youll be happy. What is a devout evolutionist A DEVOUT EVOLUTIONIST! what does devout mean ask urself. DEVOUT EVOLUTIONIST=Atheist Atheist= no god no god= no purpose theres some deductive reasoning for ya! And yes some creationist believe in evolution .. . ill argue against that if u want me to. Really why are u trying to deny this? What are u afraid of huh ....God? heheh

agapewolf #fundie forums.catholic.com

[In a thread about saying a prayer to God before having sex, one poster says that it would be a mood killer. Here is another poster's response to that.]

A mood killer? wow..... how bad do you think sex is?

God created it! He is a part of it! So much so that he creates more human beings with it!

It is so beautiful ... the closer that a married couple gets to God, the closer they get to each other (picture a triangle).

How much it could add to the spiritual/emotional side of sex...the utter beauty and elation.

yogo08 #conspiracy youtube.com

How could anybody on this earth believe that ufos are not real? well last I checked there talked about all over in the bible and many of religions they speak of some other type of intellegence, such as in egypt the hyrogliphics. Even Christopher Columbus witnesd the ufos coming in and out of the water he spent a good part of his life making contraptions to go under water to find out more about them.

BIFlight #fundie forums.white-wolf.com

[This is from a thread discussing Religion in general, but somewhere along the line, this fundie started arguing that Christianity is more valid that Wicca. Here's just one example of his arguments]

One more thing, just to beat the Inquisition topic to death before I leave it alone (as I keep coming back to it and we're all tired of it):

I was pondering this discussion today, and a quote by someone very wise came to me:

"History is just the pack of lies we all agree upon."

That's a very good summation in many ways. My addendum would be "the burning times is the pack of lies only the wiccans agree on."

HeIsEnough #fundie rr-bb.com

Not much is forgotten on the internets. Watch your witness. Yahoo, google and many others have bots which catalog threads and posts here. Its quite normal (well, normal is a relative term)

Its funny though....of all the posts I have made over the years, google has very little on me, and what they do have looks selectively picked to make me look crazy/weird/whatever. Last I checked anyway..

Rick Warren #fundie lafiga.firedoglake.com

I believed that evolution and the account of the Bible about creation could exist along side of each other very well. I just didn't see what the big argument was all about. I had some friends who had been studying the Bible much longer than I had who saw it differently...Eventually, I came to the conclusion, through my study of the Bible and science, that the two positions of evolution and creation just could not fit together. There are some real problems with the idea that God created through evolution... My prayer is that you will have this same experience!

The Bible's picture is that dinosaurs and man lived together on the earth, an earth that was filled with vegetation and beauty...man and dinosaurs lived at the same time...From the very beginning of creation, God gave man dominion over all that was made, even over the dinosaurs.

Jeff Feist #fundie frontier.cincinnati.com

Answers in Genesis is not attempting to debunk science. It is, in fact, explaining God’s creation scientifically. If you will take the time to explore what they are doing, I think you will be impressed, not only with this fact, but also with the scientific credentials of those who support Creationism as opposed to evolution. Expand your thinking to include the scientific possibility (I personally believe it to be fact) that God’s word is true and that He did, in fact, create the world in six literal 24-hour days. God’s Word clearly says He spoke creation into existence. Science does not prove it did not happen that way; it simply theorizes that it did not. Take your family and get all the facts. Then you will be in a position to make an intelligent decision as to whether or not this is a ministry worth taking seriously and, perhaps, getting behind with your support.

†JESUS IS MY OXYGEN† #fundie forum.myspace.com

The bible is God's word to us if u cant belibe his word then that means u dont belive God if u dont belive GOd then u cant belive his son. And if cant belive his son then u cant belive that he died for ur sins. And if u cant belive that then u cant be saved. and if u cant be saved then u cant go to heaven. and if u cant go to heaven u have to go to hell. So that what happens if u dont belive the Bible

Terry Hurlbut #fundie conservapedia.com

[re: the fish-tetrapod transitional fossil tiktaalik being found in the very geological stratum predicted by evolution]

And tiktaalik might have been found in that deep stratum for either of at least two reasons:

1. It was less able to seek higher ground than other, "smarter" animals, and thus was buried deep in the Flood.

2. It is actually an antediluvian laboratory chimera and hence an out-of-place artifact of a society already known to have been inordinately cruel.

BimboZombie #fundie comments.deviantart.com

[in a thread where she is picking on evolutionists for being blind idiot followers]

We Creationists have all the evidence we need.
If we got more that would be nice but for now we are already satisfied. Who needs to back up evidance no-one looks at?

BaptistBen #fundie #homophobia #wingnut #senpai_noticed_us baptistben.wordpress.com

A site called FSTDT (Fundies say the Darnedest Things) was recently brought to my attention. A bunch of homosexual pot-smoking liberals have decided to persecute Christians again. It’s only a matter of time before they persecute me.

I hate these liberals because they are calling us Christians “Fundies”, because we stand up for Christ the truth. If you are not with us, you suffer in hell forever. I am torn because part of me is genuinely concerned for these misguided souls, and part of me is thinking that they’ll get what they deserve.

We’re not going to let up. Watering down the truth with homosexual anti-Christian Liberal lies doesn’t make it false. If children learn the false religion of Evilutionism in their schools instead of the truth of Creation, they will burn. These Liberal Satanists are hoping this will happen.

samirah68 #fundie answers.yahoo.com

who doesent believe you will be punished in the grave for you sins that you did not repent upon? TRY THIS
1.put a cat or a dog in a graveyard
2.what do they do
they will immediatly try to run out or start barking mad or other things.
The reason why . Only animals hear the punishments.
They can hear all the people screaming because of punishment.
the prophet muhammad says, "if god were to let you hear the screaming you would faint"......ill try and get the proper ayah.
IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME ,TRY IT

Avid Reader #fundie amazon.com

I won't go into all the well-known weaknesses of Darwin's theory. This book is a rather desperate attempt to "re-introduce" the theory to a public that is mostly skeptical of its claims. The book abounds with logical fallacies. One is that a change in the proportion of certain individuals within a population (e.g. bacteria resistant to antibiotics) is somehow PROOF of that population evolving into another species. Yet the actual PROOF is conspicuously missing. The bacteria remain bacteria.

LordoftheMorning #fundie smashboards.com

One thing I'd like to point out. The God of the Old Testament did what he did because in those days, it was better to die than continue to sin. Jesus' death changed that, both for the future and retroactively I believe. But yeah.... it's not that he was a murderer. I have faith in an Omnipotent being, and it makes perfect sense that an Omnipotent being would know when and where to distribute death.

truth-teller #conspiracy rationalblogs.org

agreed, this website is a propaganda machine that uses RIDICULE as its primary weapon against anyone who questions the ‘official’ story of a controversial issue. I wonder who is putting the money behind this website.

Hey rationalwiki, here’s an idea….how about you learn some basic truths about fluoride in our water, GMOs, vaccines and 9-11 instead of claiming its all been debunked based on little to nothing. Hold yourself to your own standards, be skeptical of your ideologies and evolve your thinking, from there the truth will present itself.

I’m thankful for all the intuitive people who are waking up and seeing through manipulative, deceptive, and low caliber information resources like this.

ceeking_truth #fundie christianlinks.com

I will be filled with rejoicing when God makes His power known by pouring out His wrath upon the disobedient who are unfaithful and unrepentant. God is so awesome to have mercy on us when wrath is what we deserve. I am rejoicing just at the thought of it.

Sherwood #fundie news4jax.com

[From the comments on the story of the woman whose church is threatening to go public with her sins.]

As a Sothern Baptist pastor, I want to say that a common misconception is... I think represented from the comment above... is that if you are unrepentant and about to be disciplined by your church that you can just leave tell the leadership that you are withdrawing your membership. There is nothing in the Scripture that supports such a notion. In fact, while I would acknowledge that a person can leave any church for any reason; this does not nullify the churches responsibility to go forward with their actions. One of the purposes of church discipline is to SHAME the person who is in sin.

buzzardhut #fundie rr-bb.com

"Free thinkers" are actually bondage thinkers because they are still trapped in their sin, they are blind and refuse to admit they are locked in their own cages but Jesus holds the key to eternal life for them; all they have to do is open their eyes and freely receive Jesus' salvation; only then can they become free in their thinking.

washed in blood #fundie christianwebsite.com

[On Harry Potter]

Don't think that for one minute that the devil won't try and sugar coat things. I've read all of the series, mainly because it was befor eI was saved. I didn't think anything was wrong with them, until Jesus opened up my eyes.

The devil is a liar.

NIckJ123 #conspiracy s15.invisionfree.com

Random thought. Before 9/11, what if the zionists told our government that they were being attacked and threatened daily by the palestians, arabs, etc. in Israel and their only chance for survival was to get the U.S involved and help them with their war or ELSE. What if the zionists and the zionist in the US administration threatened to use Israel nucleur weopons on the US if the government didnt cooperate?

After all, zionists control almost the majority of our adminintrations, corporations, Media etc.

So our government has to make a deal that will save the most lives. They cant get us to fight in the middle-east simply because Israel needs us to. I mean 'fight the arabs to save the jews' just doesnt fly. So they have to stage an arab attack on the USA that will want us to go fight in the middle-east. The zionists not only get the protection, but their also getting more Israel territory.

What does the USA get out of this? More lives saved and oil.

John F. Kennedy did NOT want Israel to have nucleur weopons. After making that clear, he was assassinated very shortly after. Maybe the zionists are the ones who killed JFK?

Money is the root of all evil. And the zionists have a ton of it.

Tim May #racist #conspiracy #fundie #psycho forums.terra.com

(not quite sure if this belongs in FSTDT, RSTDT or CTSTDT)

"Daddy, why did the Jews take away the Christmas tree?"

"Well, punkin, it's what Jews always try to do."

"But don't they believe in Christmas?"

"No, honey, and they don't want most of us, Americans, to believe in
it, either."

"You mean like the way they killed Jesus?"

"Yes, punkin, the way they killed Jesus."

"But why do people let them do this?"

"Not everybody does. People in Germany tried to stop them a long time
ago, but America stopped the Germans."

"I think the Jews should be burned."

Knight #fundie christianforums.com

There are no such things as ghosts.
I'll not discount the possibility of demonic harrasment but if you're a Christian then you've nothing to fear from that. I'll also not discount the possibility of angels. Though that would leave you in more awe than fear.

By "ghosts" I assume you mean human spirits that wander the earth. They do not exist.

Americanrock61 #fundie christianwebsite.com

But in response, I have a little bit of knowledge of what evolution is (the big bang is associated with that theory) and it sounds corny to me. I don't know, it just sounds like some scientists can't look Jesus in the face and say 'I don't believe in you, so I'll come up with some other way to explain things'

Pragmatic #fundie assatashakur.org

Gay people...when I send my children to public school, I don't expect them to learn about being "black", period. I send them to public school to learn there place under "White supremacy", and to be grateful to "White people" for allowing them the priveledge to learn, read a book, and think.

The agenda behind homosexual instruction, in a "White Supremist" operated public school is to effiminate the males, and defeminate the women to halt "birth production".

And unless you have another educational agenda superior to the White Power establishment, (which I would like to hear, or see in writing), please tell me:

"How come straight teachers are teaching kids "how to be homosexual"?

Peace be upon you

several #fundie rr-bb.com

I recently had a conversation with my 3 girls, 12, 12, and 14 about the rapture. They indicated they are saved but of course, I cant be absolutely certain. Anyways, I told them that if by chance they are here when all the christians disappear, to understand what has happened, etc. Then it dawned on me: They will see people still here who have or are professing Christians and that it will confuse them and make them doubt the rapture. I was stumped at this point. Then one of them said: mom, if you disappear and we are still here, THEN we'll know the rapture has happened! Wild thought huh?
I wanted them to know, on the outside chance they are still here, what has happened and what to do. But it is clear, and some of you may want to let others know, that it will be confusing when many pews are still filled with "christians" after the rapture happens. It may be these "christians" that will help society think we have been abducted by aliens or something since they are still here.... what a thought eh?
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you could always get them a copy of the Left Behind Kids books or CDs. That helped us to have some conversations with our younger ones (10 and 12 at the time).
On the other hand, you don't want them to get too excited about being left behind. (And the books are just fiction. We don't want anyone thinking that it's all going to be that way.

axe1 #fundie answers.yahoo.com

Atheists are pretty stupid?

Atheists think they're superior to non-atheists (mostly) because they think they have a superior ability to use logic. Well thing is that you only see things for what they are, a primitive way of realizing conciseness.

Science is like religion in a way too, thinking up theories that make no sense at first and setting out to prove them.