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YearOfGlad #wingnut #psycho datasecretslox.com

This is going out on a ledge, but ...

SOME people. Some people, very right-wing people, have articulated the idea that the US is currently in a kinetic Civil War. The left wing is FAR more willing and organized to commit political violence. That's actually a feature of left-wing communist revolutions. They know they can attack the populace, normal people, with impunity. They will riot and bomb and assassinate until they get their desired outcome, which is terror/anarchy, revolution, then total authoritarian martial law.

I will describe this (not endorse it) one response as FIVE-TO-ONE [521]

When Trump is killed, true Republicans need to rise up, load their guns, and go out and kill five (5) registered Democrats. Voting and donor rolls are a matter of public record, you can easily get a list of people near you. Go kill them. It's the only way. Rwanda, Spain are the models here.

I do not endorse this, but it is a thought that is out there. Some think that a Rwanda-level total civilian massacre is the way to end this once and for all. They think this because they truly believe that the Left would herd them into death camps without blinking an eye. Go pay a visit to Lucy and Larry Lefty down the street and kill them before they kill you.

Some are saying this, 10x are thinking this.

educationhero #sexist #wingnut datasecretslox.com

At the minimum, [to fix the sexual revolution’s problems], the state can take its thumb off the scale. Some (general) ideas to consider:

1. State backs the authority of husbands and fathers instead of criminalizing it.
2. State reforms divorce and child support laws.
3. State deems marriage the only valid and also unimpeachable proof of sexual consent.
4. Scale back the welfare state.
5. State-backed education stops treating boys as defective girls (or worse).
6. State-backed education stops incentivizing useless post-secondary education.
7. State stops engaging in sexual affirmative action across education and work.
8. State stops using sexually disparate outcomes to punish employers.
9. State stops crushing public dissent against pretty lies about the nature of gender roles and the mating dance.
10. State religion drops its hostility towards marriage and incentivizes men (through status) to behave as good fathers.

Ana #racist #psycho datasecretslox.com

@Sad Little King

It is, in fact, rather common for migrants to "lose" their papers before hopping over the border and applying.

Yeah, this is why I advocate the solution of send them as slaves to North Korea for the people with no papers.

Either they show their papers or get deported to their home country, or they get sent to a worse shithole.

Forward Synthesis #wingnut #psycho datasecretslox.com

I get to be consistent here and point to my previous longstanding positions that:
-BLM protesters should have been subdued at gunpoint, and if they resisted they should have been shot
-Ashli Babbit was rightfully killed
-Protesting is a disordered halfway house action meant as a show of force/practice army logistics/intimidation of government and others
-Its former use in "petitioning the government" only made sense in a world where communication was inefficient and it was difficult for groups to transmit their opinions to the whole nation
-Children should be educated in the difference between free speech (being able to say what you want without arrest or fines), and protest (turning up as an army to physically occupy an area)
-Sadly, liberals hundreds of years ago in all Western countries conflated protest with speech rights, and this has now seeped into people's brains to such a degree that they think banning protests is automatically a step to a tyranny with no input from the public, but it may take hundreds of years to undo.

Even so, this was a bad shoot, and really bad PR for ICE which already doesn't have great PR. This could escalate into a BLM 2020 style situation.

Conrad #racist #conspiracy datasecretslox.com

Not quite. GA and I agree that "White American" is a coherent ethnicity. It's the blending of the european people who've been here for 400 years. 400 years is plenty enough time for an ethnogenesis. It is whatever I and GA, and all the generic white guys are, who are descended from Europeans and identify only as American, with no hyphens, and see ourselves as part of the continuity of this place from Jamestown through the Revolution and the Civil War and WWII and the moon landing to today.

I'm ambivalent about "white ethnostate." I'm not sure what that means. If it means "everyone is White American" then absolutely not. Black Americans are heritage Americans, they've been here as long as my family. What I'd like is something more like the racial demographics of my childhood in the 1980s or so. What I don't like is having to ever hear the words "the Somalian community in Minnesota" or "the entirely Muslim city council of Deerborn Michigan" or "Another Chinese spy for the CCP caught smuggling a parasitic mold into the US that could wipe out all vegetable production" or "new Indian CEO of major American corporation fires 10,000 workers, plans new $10B investment in India." None of this new immigration is doing anything for me. It's making my life and my country worse in countless ways large and small, from my kid's school concerts to the cost of housing to my car insurance premiums to my tax bills to ER wait times to everything else.

I wouldn't call 1986 a "white ethnostate," but I liked it when the major race relation issues we had were between white and black Americans, and I can tolerate a smattering of hispanics and some one-off asians. But no "communities."

Conrad #wingnut #psycho datasecretslox.com

Yes, I'm making an argument that we should make the penalty for drug dealing death. If they're people in the US, arrest them, try them, execute them. If they're foreigners on the high seas, shoot them with a hellfire missile, like we're doing now.

Beck #elitist datasecretslox.com

I think the most important job of law enforcement in a rich area is excluding or discouraging the presence of poor, dysfunctional people. It's not like dentists and engineers are knocking over gas stations if the police aren't watching them all the time. That seems to be where San Francisco law enforcement really falls down on the job*; they're not acting as a filter.

And law enforcement absolutely does not work nearly as well on the poor. There's been a rash of mass shootings recently across the Southeast at high school or college (mostly hbcu) homecomings. There were heavy police presences at every one of those. In Montgomery, there were police units within 50 feet of where the shooting started, but it didn't stop at least a dozen people from blasting away at each other.

Every time the Southern Poverty Law Center** or someone wins a case preventing police from rousting undesirables, they make life a little worse for citizens.

* Along with ignoring actual crime

** Those jackasses at the SPLC are the reason we've got panhandlers in every median where I live, so I'm a little bitter.

Conrad #wingnut #psycho datasecretslox.com

[about the protestors that got shot by ICE]

No violence, no shooty. Violence...shooty. I don't care if you're throwing rocks or fistfighting officers or whatever.

@Lumifer

...what's the penalty for being late?

Exactly. If you want to fight, then fight. But you don't get to half-fight, and play these stupid "tee hee I'm using exactly this much violence and so you can only use exactly this much violence against me and if you use more then it means you're bad and I win!" No. Pick one. Words or violence. Your choice. But you don't get to choose violence, then suck at violence and act like you're wronged in some way because you lost.

@Lumifer

You're not going to like this world.

It's already how it is for people of my political persuasion. We've had one riot in the last 20 years. I wouldn't notice any difference.

@Lumifer

Oh, no, it isn't, you sweet summer child. It's not about your opportunity to fistfight cops, it's about people -- not you -- who'll decide that you might as well be hanged for a sheep as for a lamb and start to fight government seriously. You know, bombings, assassinations, things like that. At best it will look like The Troubles in the UK.

If that's what they want, great, let's settle it.

IshaYirasHashem #sexist datasecretslox.com

Obviously [IshaYirasHashem wants criminal penalties for abortion].

But even just being alone with the opposite gender in a place unlikely to be disturbed should be against the law.

I can't tell you how many times my insistence on the laws of Yichud saved me, as an insanely risk taking teenager. I recently found out that someone I'd been in touch with at 14-15 was a serial molester. When we made up to meet, I assumed he'd be careful of yichud laws and made my mother come along. He seemed rather surprised to see my mother... I remained clueless.

Ie, want to take crazy chances meeting people and survive, be strict about the laws of yichud and not touching men or getting into any situations like that. I've decided this includes online private anonymous correspondence, because someone could be pretending to be a girl. Call it the IYH Rules, modeled after Mike Pence, a G-d fearing man.

Muslim men call me Mrs Isha online.

jasklologist #wingnut datasecretslox.com

Harvard can remain relevant longer than we can remain solvent, but long-term they’re completely screwed. It’s not just Trump; the Right as a whole is sick of academia acting as an organ of the Left, sick of asking nicely for them to stop, and Republican politicians will increasingly see that there’s no downside to using all the powers at their disposal against academia. What can Harvard do? Stop being racist and stop discriminating against Conservatives? That’s anathema to them. Make a big show of how hard they are #resisting Trump? That cements them further as the enemy of half the country, while only gaining tiny margins on the left. That’s deadly for an institution that wants to be seen as a leading source of legitimacy for the ruling class of the whole country. And it’s no good for an industry that is heavily funded by a government which will be run by their enemies half the time.

This feels like one of those collapses that will happen very slowly and then all at once. Don’t trust in that big endowment either; government surely has a thousand ways to take care of that.

IshaYirasHashem #wingnut datasecretslox.com

Trump is a smart politician. He’ll start off pro Israel to feed his base, and later give the Muslims stuff to keep them on his side. Too bad he’s the last smart politician and after him the Muslims will easily take over politically.

Aiyen #wingnut #conspiracy datasecretslox.com

After their conduct during the past few years, yes, liberals in general should be considered evil. Pre-Covid I thought that a lot of them were honestly misguided, and even the more consciously harmful ones were more grifters, and less genocidal freaks. Then came thirty million deaths in the Covid crisis, some from the disease, some from the vaccine, some from lockdowns. That's almost three Holocausts, and we should judge accordingly. Throw in the active aiding and abetting of child rape in Europe, the increasingly mask-off anti-Whitism and growing atrocities like transing kids, and I do not think it is reasonable to consider anyone who voluntarily stays on the side of the demons to be a good person.

Remember, these people live in, if not as free of countries as I'd like, then still countries in which they usually don't need to jump on board the bandwagon to stay safe. And countries in which, if there isn't as much honest media as I'd like, then still countries in which one can learn about what happened, and why. And they still choose this. It is very hard to imagine a moral standard that condemns anything we would consider bad that doesn't condemn this, and in capital terms.

Plumber #wingnut datasecretslox.com

[reply to a few articles about people being arrested after defacing Pride flags]

Just hurry up and do some of this too!

Republicans have a House majority, and it is way past time for y’all to restart HUAC!

What was done once, may be done again, so do it already!

Instead of complaining about the Right being oppressed, start oppressing the Left, and I can think of no faction more worthy of being called out than pro-Hamas scum!

Just do it already!

Conrad #wingnut datasecretslox.com

[Deporting a green card holder who participated in a “Free Palestinian” protest is] a start. I want any foreigner who takes part in a protest on US soil deported. Guests do not get to lecture us about politics. The chutzpah to come here and immediately start advocating to change my home. Get out. My only complaint is that this is narrowly targeting Israel/Palestine stuff and not broadly applied to everything else (climate, immigration, BLM, etc).

Forward Synthesis #elitist #wingnut datasecretslox.com

[Universal franchise] made things worse. Abolishing the vote for most of both blacks and whites would be preferred, but I'm not a believer in absolute equality to begin with, so I don't care if we get there by bits and pieces. You're getting into the danger zone as soon as the voters don't comprise a small aristocracy of people who all know each other and have a vested interest in upholding a foundational constitution. Every little step away from ideal is bad, so yes, letting blacks vote more easily was worse for long term societal outcomes.

Conrad #racist #conspiracy datasecretslox.com

You and I, as Good White People, hire the person who is best for the job. You and I would never hire a guy just because he's white, especially not if he's incompetent. But then as soon as an Indian gets into a position to make hiring decisions, being an ethnic nepotist, he does not hire whoever is "best for the job." He thinks "I want to hire my own people."

So, those of you, @albatross11, @DavidFriedman, who are concerned about abstract principles, and are opposed to limiting Indian immigration because doing so violates your abstract principles against ethnic discrimination...well, you're advocating to bring in lots of people who do not now and never will share your abstract principles. Very few people in the world share these principles. The vast majority of the world engages in group-based morality. It would be possible to get a pretty good approximation of your abstract ideals with a white population, but you're never going to get that by constantly increasing the number of ethnic nepotists in positions of power in the country.

EchoChaos #fundie datasecretslox.com

[context: Do you want government mandated religion?]

1) What do you say/do/feel for minority religious people? I'm sure there are a significant number of devout people who find objection to any but the most mundane religious prayer/symbol/etc. Maybe consider a Catholic parent who's offended that that Ten Commandments imposed on schools is wrongly stated from the Catholic point of view.

A vote should be held on this. That's why we have school board elections, mayoral elections, etc. If you object to a Protestant being elected mayor, you're welcome to elect a Catholic. That's what "no religious test for office" should mean.

2) What do you do when Christian's differ in their faith? At least in my home town, the majority of Churches are super open to, and encourage the membership of gay people. But some churches disagree. Yet we probably need a state or national view on "Are these two particular people married".

A vote should be held on this as well, of course. That's why we have a democracy. We held votes on it, the American people agreed that marriage was only a man and a woman, it should have ended there with no issue.

P.S. There is one majority Muslim town in the US with 25,000 people who live in Hamtramck MI.

They should have been deported.

EchoChaos #fundie #sexist #psycho datasecretslox.com

I disagree with Maimonides that [Leviticus] allows battlefield rape (as opposed to forced marriage of captive women, which it clearly allows), but if I were convinced that it did, I would say battlefield rape was good, yes.

I agree with Maimonides that my intuitions may disagree with God's Law, but that puts my intuitions in the wrong, not God's Law.

GoneAnon #conspiracy datasecretslox.com

Is the government of Qatar inherently more likely to do something bad [like bugging the plane] to Trump than the board of directors of Boeing?

Sadly, this is NOT a rhetorical question. I think it actually does require some serious thought.

@albatross11

”Doesn’t Boeing do a bunch of defense/classified work? If we think they're planting bugs/trojans in the stuff they sell the USG, Leavenworth is going to need a new wing.”

Perhaps they are doing so on behalf of the people who really run the USG.

@bean

“I work for that kind of company. If I was told to do something like that, I would call my government counterpart immediately. I’m more loyal to the country and the job I’m supposed to do than I am to my company.”

I suspect the job would be carried out by someone who would say the exact same thing, only that “loyalty to the country” is what motivates taking actions against Trump.

@bean

”It does not require serious thought because it is not a serious question. […] If Boeing does this, it is pretty trivial to send people to jail.”

Who’s the last person that was sent to jail for sabotaging Trump / acting against his orders as President? Who’s the last big-time corporate official who was sent to jail for anything? It doesn’t seem trivial. Granted, yes, it’s probably easier to punish Americans compared to Qataris.

IMO the primary question is motivation rather than likelihood/ability to punish. It’s not clear to me that the average Qatari has any particular animus towards Trump. The average Boeing employee might very well have more. I think the question is at least debatable.

Aiyen #homophobia datasecretslox.com

@Aiyen

How long do you think it will be until we get NAMBLA story hours? It seems unthinkable now, but flergeflamming seemed unthinkable ten years ago.

@acymetric

I would argue we already have it in everything but name. So, in name? I dunno, but I don't think the answer is never which is unfortunate.

I'd say ten years, analogous to flergeflamming, except that the decade ahead seems likely to be much more turbulent than the one before, with everything from the rise of AI to the potential of a backlash against progressive tyranny, making it very hard to predict.

Aiyen #elitist #wingnut datasecretslox.com

[In response to a climate protester pouring red powder on the US Constitution display case at the National Archives.]

Just keep them as permanent slaves. We don't want this style of protest to spread, and nipping it in the bud is the easiest way to stop it. Destroying value for the sake of destroying value, and with a bad cause to start with? Yeah, they're free labor now.

futuristright #racist datasecretslox.com

As someone who thinks Africans are better off under white rule and that whites don't really gain anything from ruling over them, but that we should sometimes do so anyway as a humanitarian act - I don't see how I'm not White Supremacist adjacent. And yet, my only real motive here is believing that black life has some value while the term White supremacist tends to have the connotation of, 'you have the right to exploit and oppress other races without concern for their wellbeing.'

From my perspective, white nationalism implies low IQ non-whites having little to no moral value at all, since the conditions of life they'd live under without foreign rule are pretty awful and so I'd be hesitant to call myself that. I find it irritating that a Bill Clinton voter for example can feel no shame for supporting a man who set the exchange rate for White American to Rwandan lives at less than 1 to 50K, and believes they are more moral than me.

Compare this to the 2000 British Sailors who died rescuing 100K Africans from slavery in the 1800s and didn't believe Africans should rule themselves, or that they had the same intrinsic value as their own white countrymen. They were almost certainly white supremacists. And yet, even purely by the standard of valuing African welfare I think they'd clearly and rightfully be designated as morally superior.

GoneAnon #conspiracy datasecretslox.com

Are there ANY national-level Republicans whose environmental platform is openly "climate change is a giant scam and all investments in energy need to be evaluated on strictly economic and efficiency terms ONLY, without regard for CO2 emissions?"

Even the CEOs of oil companies are terrified to say this.

Petunia #wingnut #pratt datasecretslox.com

The pro-gun side has actual experience with guns and the empirical evidence that none of the guns in their safe jump up and run around shooting up schools.

The anti-gun side has feelings, Helen Lovejoy, and David Hogg. And "science!" of the "I Fucking Love..." kind.

vV_Vv #conspiracy datasecretslox.com

The NPCs don't think, the intellectuals[1] and the elites[2] are[3] pro[4] pedophilia[5].

Link descriptions provided for your convenience by the quote submitter

[1]: A failed French petition to lower the age of consent to 13, and to make the age of consent the same for “natural” and “unnatural” sex acts.

[2]: A photograph of Prince Andrew, Virginia Giuffre and Ghislaine Maxwell, provided by vV_Vv without context (I used TinEye to figure out what I was actually looking at).

[3]: Wikipedia’s “Reactions to the arrest” section of their article on Roman Polanski’s sexual abuse case.

[4]: Wikipedia article for Call Me by Your Name (2017), a Rom-Drama between a 17yo girl and a 24yo man.

[5]: Wikipedia article for Cuties (2020), a film about a young livestreamer that, according to the scriptwriter, “is intended to criticise the hypersexualisation of pre-adolescent girls.”

Walter O’Dim #sexist datasecretslox.com

I’ll bite the bullet and admit that I think most women basically don’t have agency in the same way that men do, that they prefer to live their lives without the agency that men have, and that this is basically a Good Thing. The problem is reordering the world to insist that women have just as much agency as men when you’re unlikely to get them to actually act like they do. The majority of happily married men that I know basically take what amounts to a traditional head of household approach to how things are run - the man made the move in the relationship, made the decision to step to marriage, made the decision on buying a house, and makes many small decisions such as where to go to dinner. Of course, they want input from their wives and treat the decision-making process as being substantially predicated on making their wives happy, but they also certainly behave as though they know that their wives don’t want to make these decisions. Of note, these are not stay at home tradwives - I’m thinking of scientists, attorneys, IT professionals, and other high-agency careers women that would really prefer their husbands make calls.

Of course, pretty much none of them will phrase it that way, but it is what it is.