[From “D-Day, 80 Years Later”]
It just lands a lot differently than it did even 20 years ago. What, exactly, are we supposed to be celebrating these days? Clown World didn’t even preserve democracy or the rule of law
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spoiler Picture of a GI smoking a cigarette captioned with “Y'know, speaking German sounds a whole lot better than a transexual mulatto grandkid…”But at least our grandfathers paid the price to bring them freedom…
German police search 70 homes of people who posted hateful comments online
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But at least our grandfathers paid the price to bring them freedom…
German police search 70 homes of people who posted hateful comments online
Never mind
Fahr zur Hölle, Beale!
““Y'know, speaking German sounds a whole lot better than a transexual mulatto grandkid…”
I have German Heritage. I’ve sometimes thought about learning German. But as an elective, not as a price of being conquered by bigots.
My grandfather was a bombardier on a B-25. He fought in Northern Africa and Italy. He was shot in the service of his country. He was always proud of his service and so are we.
Among his grandchildren are two with Lakota ancestry, one lesbian, one bisexual, one with Jewish ancestry, multiple kids with disabilities. The only thing he’s prouder of than his service is all of us.
Fuck you for pretending to speak for him, Teddy, and double fuck you for shitting on his service.
I’ve always found the argument “I/they fought for your freedom, and it’s disrespectful that you do *this* with it” to be rather odd. If you get to dictate what other people do with the freedom you’ve granted to/secured for them, then it’s not really freedom, is it? Or “If I/they knew what some people would do with freedom, I/they wouldn’t have bothered to fight for it” then it’s rather questionable whether what you/they were fighting for was even “freedom” as most people define it.
um… you do realize more than just white people fought in that war right? a lot of Non-White Americans and non-Europeans also fought in that war against the Nazis and their Axis allies and some of those soldiers were Jewish themselves so of course they’d be against the Nazis.
Additionally, a lot of those very same white soldiers you think would be on your side were thoroughly disgusted with what they saw in the death camps, some going so far as to outright execute the prison guards (a warcrime regardless of why it happened) that they managed to capture when they liberated the camps.
But at least our grandfathers paid the price to bring them freedom…
German police search 70 homes of people who posted hateful comments online
Never mind
Liberty ain’t free. Democracies can fall from within and thus need to counteract such threats, so that it does not degenerate into a tyranny of the majority, read a tyranny of the populist. This concept of a “defensive democracy” has been part of the Federal Republic’s philosophy since the beginning, seeing that this is exactly what happened to Germany’s previous attempt at democracy.
Oddly, I remember a time when US Conservatives were very much of this conviction, indeed, to a degree that horrified the world…
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Story pitch: Neonazi travels back in time to prevent the USA from joining World War II - turns out the Nazis still lose, but Stalin takes control over even more of Europe...
Yeah and General Eisenhower could probably speak German, seine Familie wast Deutsch. I would love to see the way people of the WWII generation would deal with people who had Nazi ideas like yours, pretty directly. Dummkopf, get back to me when they actually throw people in concentration camps for saying something "hateful" online.
Funny, I am French, speak German and am married to a woman of African descent, who, by all accounts is smarter, more hard-working and compassionate, than Vox and his ilk. I would say that this is vastly better than the sterile and lobotomised world the nazis and other assorted purity-obsessed morons keep harping about. As Primo Levi wrote: a pure sample of an element is inert, it takes mixing it with something else to have it do anything interesting.
@Bastethotep #199672
Story pitch: Neonazi travels back in time to prevent the USA from joining World War II - turns out the Nazis still lose, but Stalin takes control over even more of Europe...
Oooh, that totally reminds me of my favorite “alternate history” book of all time. “The Guns of the South” by Harry Turtledove. South African white supremacists travel back in time to January 1864 to supply the Confederacy with AK-47s. It’s not too big of a spoiler to say that that does in fact result in a Confederate victory, but I’ll just say that the real story is in what happens AFTER that.
Le Makron spending the whole day there: certainly when he awarded the Legion d’honneur to veterans* of Utah & Omaha beaches. Sir Keir Starmer did: as did King Charles III. Rishi Rich buggering off part way to do an interview on ITV. His political fate is sealed. Your opinions, VD?
Never mind.
*- Including two black men, and a white man with a rainbow on his jacket. That landed - just as they/their comrades did on those beaches - with great relevance today.
That alone will land on you just like the ramp of the landing craft of those who did so that day 80 years ago on Utah & Omaha.
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