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yourderangedcat #psycho #sexist

Eh, this one I'd not really say is too bad. Intrusive Violent Thoughts are a thing. Someone going "Yeah. I'm having these fucked up thoughts. I don't want to do any of those things. Please belp." Is honestly one of the healthiest sort of posts I've seen here.

Do hope most of the responses were to have the person seek professional help.

Stonetoss #wingnut #conspiracy #crackpot #dunning-kruger #mammon

There is an itsy bitsy teensy scrap of a point in there, but because this guy is an idiot I'm not sure HE got it.

If a person who makes art is particularly vile, people don't like housing or showing off their work. That plus whoever owns the museum can display what they like. It's not really an opinion based thing, museums have collections, and can cycle through the items they want shown.

Now, if we are talking "art" to include stuff like your stuff, your partnering with Vox Day at Arkhaven and the cream of the crop that sight has to offer... it's because you suck. The gag a comic strips are poorly drawn with shitty gags and the actual comics are terrible at both story and art. That's why we never see your stuff take off.

Jelaila Starr/Nibiruan Council #ufo #magick #crackpot

"The Felines named it Avyon. Now this is not the exact pronunciation, nor spelling , but it is close enough. The real name cannot be translated into English"

This trope is a Pet peeve of mine. Sure, a word might not have a good way pronounced well in English, the Khoisan languages being the first that comes to mind. But any word can be translated into English. That's what "translation" means. Some nuance might be hard to translate, but whatever. English is pretty good about at least defining a word through translation.

Sad, for example. If there was an alien word that meant sad, we'd look at the severity. We've got a bunch of words to describe what type of sad, like unhappy, crestfallen, distraught, morose, sorrowful, dejected, depressed, etc. And even if there isn't a word for word translation, something like (being cats and all) let's say the Feline word for sad this time, Vayongraff, means "the sadness one feels when you want to knock things off a table, but there is nothing to knock off." It's still translatable.

Sound Minds Eye Found #conspiracy

1. If so much information is being covered up/warped/inverted, how can you be sure you're accurate and not falling for a layered scheme?
2. "so they can avoid karmic penalty" what? If karma exists in the Buddhist/Hindu/etc sense, that wouldn't work. If it was just to avoid repercussions from actions, it's a weird way to say it. Plus with how powerful they supposedly are, do they really need to fear a trial?
3. 9-11 facts has been supported over and over. Just saying "It looks like" and providing no evidence doesn't help.
4. You mean the known terrorist who was responsible for numerous bombings, and had a friend who also bombed World Trade Center, was named a possible suspect in a terrorist attack on the Two Towers, and other targets? Color me shocked.
5. And the good guys, these White Hats, also have terrorist attacks.
6. Sure. Back to Sasquatch. At the very least expounding on purely fictional things won't make you sound as misinformed, just stupid.

Clif High #crackpot #conspiracy #wingnut #dunning-kruger

"A ‘fact’ just lays there, it takes a human putting an emotion to it to create a Truth."

Funny how in a massive rant about truth and facts, the idiot ignores facts and spreads lies.

But no, so long as the fact is correct, it is truth. Facts don't care about your feelings. Sifting through information to find out if it is accurate and in fact facts is important, otherwise you can get to situations where fuckwaffles will just string a narrative together and call everything that disagrees with their agenda fake. They might have all the emotion they can muster behind it, but it doesn't stop them from being liars.

Liquid Rox #conspiracy #fundie #wingnut

Anonymous #fundie #conspiracy #crackpot #dunning-kruger #magick

Trilby Smith #conspiracy #quack

Ah yes, those darn Greeks making fun of people with an anagram of words that didn't exist

Jesse Lee Peterson #racist #wingnut

Black on black violence is an issue.

However, BLM exists because of the issue of law enforcement, who are supposed to be helping people, are often times unjust towards people of color and when there is a black person killed by police when they should not be protected by qualified immunity either get no repercussions or a slap on the wrist. One of the reasons for the prevalence of gang violence in the black community is that a large amount of black people do not trust the police to help them. People who are sworn to uphold the law.

Until that issue is mitigated or resolved, solving gang violence will be a harder task.

Focusing on one aspect of a problem doesn't mean you don't care about the whole problem.

Tory MP Nick Fletcher #sexist #conspiracy

1. Doctor Who wasn't replaced by a woman, this regeneration turned the doctor into one. Not exactly the same thing.
2. Even if it was a male Rey in the new series, what they did to Luke was a disgrace. But Star Wars is bit and diverse enough that a female lead is just fine. Case in point Rogue One. I might have missed them, but can't say I recall any complaints about there being a female lead in that one.
3. I'm not sure an occasionally rapey serial philanderer and ruthless government black ops spy/hitman sort of character like James Bond SHOULD be a role model.
4. People rebelled against the 2016 Ghostbusters because lots of people thought it wasn't well written and the reaction by the studio was toxic. Plus, 1/4th if the original team was a bit questionable if you considered Venkman a role model and not just a fun to watch character.

How do you get from "These male characters were replaced by women" to "And therefore violent crime"? It's not like people can't watch the original stuff, they aren't scrubbing things from the records. People generally tend to view a character swap (gender, race, sexuality, etc) as an annoying gimmick, especially if they don't really do anything with it. New and original ideas coupled with well written characters is a better way to get diversity that "Well, Captain DeathPunch now is a woman. Have we told you they are a woman now?"

Justice for Yellow Van! #wingnut #dunning-kruger

Maybe it's easy to assume that at least a chunk of Trump supporters are Nazi's and wanna be klansmen when they wave Nazi and Confederate flags, do Nazi salutes, talk about e il Jewish space lasers, defend monuments to traitors on US soil, and generally act racist?

Certainly not all of them, but enough where it is easy to find them.

Dr. James David Manning #crackpot #fundie #homophobia

@Skide Eh, I usually think SpukiKitty's longer posts about what they believe give reasonable context to what they are talking about, as the beliefs aren't more well known, at least to me, certainly. Observing different ideas, even if I might not agree with them is usually pretty neat. @Spukikitty02, you're all right with me.

You've piqued my interest more though, Skide, because I have no idea of what you're talking about. There are only two Promethean faiths I could think of, the first being literal worship of the titan. The second is Vox Day's nonsense catchall for his evil nefarious shadow government/religion thing.

So, if you'd like to share, you can put your views up, and I certainly won't complain about it. It will be informative.

@Malingspann A wife he abuses, apparently.

But, yes. Only now has Jesus removed his blessing. Because homelessness, addicts, assault during the daytime, and domestic abuse has never ever been a thing, certainly never even in Jesus' time.

What would an LGBTQ restaurant even serve? The only two ideas I could think of (that isn't just a restaurant that accepts people who come in/work there) would be either some sorta pretentious place or a joke restaurant.

Anonymous #crackpot #fundie

So, one person misremembered something (sound similar, not uncommon for movie titles, heck, even a Hellraiser Revelations movie (though that one is wretched, far worse than even the 3rd Matrix movie)).
Yeah, these "Mandela Effect" posts are always so bizarre. But then, when the idea is based off the idea that a person's memory is infallible and the only rational explanation to remembering an event wrong is that there was some overlap with an alternate timeline that's pretty much identical aside from really small things.

The second person... I dunno. Seems rambling and incoherent enough I hope they didn't suffer a stroke before/while writing it.

Candace Owens #conspiracy #fundie #wingnut

Depends. How many would be alive without fuxking stupid policies that allow criminal empires to rise from drugs and enact policies that let's law enforcement target their communities, letting criminals run free as dealing with the supposed good guys is more likely to harm someone than help with a problem?

Gang culture and idolizing drug dealers, pimps, and other scum is what you get when the law enforcement comes across as an evil almost, if not worse than the criminals.

And it's not just a black thing, prohibition era gangsters and other mobs are looked at more fondly as they should be, why? Because of the glitz and money they could accrue while undermining a horrifically flawed amendment and the various other anti-drug laws.

Dark Sage Mystic #fundie #quack

So, God (presumably Yahweh as that's the one that is usually referred to as such) isn't going to reincarnate you (something that Christianity doesn't believe in) because of a change to your DNA (nevermind that humans replace every cell in their body every decade or so) making him unable to recognize you and not on something like... your spirit or soul (the things most deities tend to care about).

I will grant that there are some stupid things that could keep you out if heaven in the Bible. But this makes even less sense than those.

Three South Carolina state representatives #wingnut #racist #transphobia #homophobia

Wait, doesn't this mean they also can't teach creationism as that “repeatedly distorts or misrepresents verifiable historical facts,” “omits relevant and important context,” or “interjects the instructor’s personal views,” whenever it is presented? Some small silver lining I guess.

But yeah, saying we don't need to discuss racial history in general is bad. Saying "Because of X, Y, or Z trait you are more advantaged than others" is fine. If anyone is trying to make people feel guilty about things they can't control, that someone else's ancestors did, or that they don't actively do, yeah, that isn't helpful or proper, but I'm not sure that that IS being done except by more radical fringe types, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on that.

stolenrange #moonbat #sexist

It is about violent incels, from following the link. That particular group does have some violent members in it, sure.

But, any plan that involves rounding up any mass group of people based on factors they can't control (in this case guys being virgins) should just be laughed at.

And of course, do love that added touch of misandry (comment about dick size and calling guys freaks for not losing their virginity by a certain age cutoff) for that cool bit of hypocrisy and the completely idiotic "Oh, law enforcement won't do this, of course..." ending. Yeah, shame law enforcement won't systematically and flagrantly violate a whole bunch of peoples' civil rights. The instances where they do we're trying to cut back on, it's a bad thing.

Seriously, what a fuckwaffle. How about, since we're just imagining a super powerful dystopian government, law enforcement plays matchmaker for everyone after 18?

Pisstoire #racist

Nothing raises the level of discourse for a conversation like calling someone a member of the "poopoo peepee tribe."

What are you, 12?

Mow, while the early Europeans who came to the country have a lot, and I mean a LOT of blood on their hands, modern Thanksgiving is detached enough I'd not really worry about it. Especially if we also educate people on proper history.

It's not like the Pilgrim Thanksgiving is the first, or only one from that time period, and thanking each other for what we can achieve by working with others is certainly nice.

Anons #fundie #homophobia #sexist #transphobia

Urgh, there is just so much concentrated stupid in this post... won't cover every problem, but will poke at a few.

1. Granted it could be my better knowledge of Catholicism vs more Protestant splits, but who claims the Holy Spirit is feminine? What New Age nonsense is this person spouting with the Holy Spirit being "The Mother God"? I'm certainly not opposed to female deities in any pantheon, but that just isn't really the case in Christianity, far as I know.

2. Not bothering to double check it, and correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the hermaphrodite Satan thing supposed to be more a perversion of the more usual sexes instead of some half hearted imitation of any of the three aspects of God?

3. There are lots of female saints and important ladies in the Bible. Protestants don't have the massive list of saints that Catholics do, so it might feel like less depending on how you were raised. Also the whole thing is fairly male centric, of course guys are going to be more important.

4. The tetragrammaton isn't divided into 3rds, numnuts. It's the four letters of Yahweh. YHWH. It's isn't synonymous with the Triune god, or the Trinity.

5. Well, since there is a father and son, calling God an incel can't be accurate, can it? And even then, if an omnipotent god didn't fuck, He'd have to be voluntarily celibate, right?

Stonetoss #homophobia #transphobia #racist #wingnut

All other stupid stuff aside, I wonder what the yellow sign is behind the traitorous racist duck?

I can guess, what with it being yellow, it's a "No Step on Snek" sign.

Bennett Lee Ross #crackpot #conspiracy #fundie #dunning-kruger

A flat Earther who isn't a Fundie Christian? That's certainly unusual.

Instead of going over all the stupid flat Earth points, this guy doesn't even get right what the ever present and nefarious Freemasons want people to believe.

1. Humans aren't hairless apes, the hair is just finer than in other extant apes.
2. Humanity has known about the Earth being spherical since before the Freemasons were a thing, it can't be a plot of theirs.
3. The vengeful deity is only a percentage of religions, and even then only a smaller subsection of more Protestant sects are deterministic.
4. Christians don't consider Jesus "Half man/half god" and a tiny percentage of Christians believe in the Rapture.

Now, for 3 and 4 especially, I get that the guy easily could just be mocking the concepts that he thinks the Freemasons are pushing, but it's not like he presents any ideas well. Setting up a strawman to knock down is bad no matter who believes it. Plus with how powerful and omnipresent a group that could actually convince the planet the shape of Earth is wrong, just focusing on Christianity is inadequate.

Merlin via Galaxygirl #crackpot #magick #ufo

"Please Merlin, how can we change from carbon to crystalline?"

"Ho ho ho, my dear. You see, even though I'm a figment of your delusion, even I know the idea of changing from an element based lifeform to type of solid based lifeform is bafflingly stupid idea. What, are you then going to ascend from an argon based lifeform to a metallic based lifeform? You can have carbon crystals too, you ditz."

Prussian Society of America #psycho

I will give the idiot that some violence is artistic, but that's more, at least for me, the art of a body moving with athleticism and grace of the fighter.

Well, that or pretty pretty weapons. It was one of the reasons I watched the old "Deadliest Warrior" and clips of "Forged in Fire," seeing those magnificently made weapons performing.

Matt Walsh #conspiracy #fundie #wingnut

The main issues I have with the Rittenhouse case are
1. Illegally purchasing a firearm.
2. Crossing state lines with said firearm.
3. Not turning himself in after the first shooting.
4. The police not even stopping him for questioning when dozens of people claim he shot someone.

Now, even with an illegal firearm, if a group of people are chasing you and someone fires a shot... yeah. Defending yourself is ok. And correct me if I'm wrong, but Rosenbaum seemed to be the most "fair" instance of self defense. He was actively leading people and pursuing a retreating person. The main reason, it seems is that Rosenbaum had set a dumpster on fire and Rittenhouse, among others, had put it out. And then Rosenbaum chased Rittenhouse, led others to chase him, throwing things at him, finally shooting a gun into the air to stop Rittenhouse from fleeing.

The third was the least self defense, with Grosskreutz approaching Rittenhouse as an active shooter and aiming to disarm him and presumably turn him to the police. He is very lucky that he wasn't just shot, what with that "good guy with a gun taking out bad guys" mentality some people have.

ImperatorOrca #fundie #conspiracy

I will grant the first sentence, to a point. Rest is hooey though. Freemasons tended to be merchant to wealthy, though was open as far as I'm aware, just have to meet some requirements. It was, and still is, effectively a social club so you're going to have members backing social movements. Like revolutions against tyranny.

It being a vast sinister plot has little evidence to it.

Robert Cornell #conspiracy

Because the 90 year old dictator couldn't just die from natural causes? He had to hit 100 in complete secrecy for some reason.

And the purpose of faking his death would be... what, exactly?

Bobby #racist

How does "Tom Petty got a Rock and Roll Hall if Fame" detract from your memory of that day? That he was acknowledged for being great?

Hell, I'd be willing to bet racists like you would go so far as to say his music was all part of "The Jews" evil scheme to degrade US values. Especially since he got albums and radio time.

Least it was something good. Not like "That was Tom Petty, who's been tied up in court with numerous sexual assault allegations." Freaking Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, how could that be a bad thing?

Candace Owens #conspiracy #fundie #racist #wingnut

Ignoring the events of the day itself, he's not innocent. He illegally purchased a firearm and crossed state lines with it.

I'll not get into the shooting, as looking that up that seems all sorts of a mess. But, I'd just say if step one is committing a few crimes, what comes next likely isn't great.

Ted Cruz #wingnut

Ah yes, those amazing values like fucking over the constituents by not having an adequately maintained power grid then fleeing the country while people die and suffer to enjoy a vacation with the family.

At least, those are the values I know Ted Cruz has.

As far as the filibuster, just treat it as it was in the past. You have to stand and waste time. Though, really, correct me if I'm wrong but it was used uncommonly until the Civil Rights Movement, and then used to try to stop helpful things. And the Senate Republicans have already altered it to make packing the Court easier. Federal oversight for elections would allow for better standards and record keeping. Everything this idiot says is wrong and dumb.

American Plague #racist #wingnut

"Ahah. Here is an example of an individual saying something stupid. Therefore, each and every person who fits into that group is also stupid. No, this can not be used against my groups."

Bennett Lee Ross #crackpot #ufo #magick #conspiracy

I suppose it would take a crazy person to not only believe this drivel but to spend so much time being so terrible with basic sentence structure.

Like, take this one as an example.

"Catholic convents are a front
For child trafficking and pedophile rings"

They could have gone with "Catholic convents are a front for child trafficking and pedophile rings" gotten the same message across.

I guess when you've deluded yourself into thinking that through ardent shaking to awaken your 5th eye chakra wheel in the 9th dimension, you think the rules of language are beneath you. Or maybe even a sinister plot to keep everyone on "lower" oscillation at an equilibrium point.

Who knows?

Jerry Derecha/Adrenogate #crackpot #ufo #magick #conspiracy

That is why the Imperium of Man does not use AI, they are very susceptible to the Warp.

But that's alright, because we don't need them anyway. The Emperor Protects.

Anonymoose #conspiracy

What? How would that follow? Any word processing program like Microsoft Word has had grammar correction for decades. I'm actually surprised it has taken this long to get a sentence checker on a phone.

Now, I know these idiot's always fear "The Big Evil" but if their dastardly plots involve making sure people always use the correct instance of your vs you're, I welcome the Global Cabal.

worshipmoment #homophobia

What sort of contradiction? Like between the Bible and observable reality (The Creation Myth), more logical contradictions that aren't explicit (Cain finding a wife when it should have just been him, Adam and Eve), God changing his mind about rules and laws (going from an eye for an eye to turning the other cheek), or more blatant ones (no man has seen God... ignoring all who have).

It's less about being able to find the contradictions than selecting the category the issue falls under.

Prussian Society of America #wingnut #crackpot #sexist #racist

I will admit, the Prussian Society of America does have a good point.

Lots of the slang and "code" words employed these days are ridiculous.

A single good point, as the rest is stupid drivel.

Andrew Anglin #homophobia #conspiracy

For someone so opposed to sodomy, Andrew really delights in thinking about gay men fucking. And doesn't know that gay men =/= pedophiles.

Dianne Paulsen #fundie

7.9? What, is there like a 3/5ths soul compromise or something? How do you get fractions involved in this?

BH Times #conspiracy #moonbat #quack #racist

If it is a Poe, it's pretty prolific, plus a website, and apparently also have a YouTube channel/show, so that's a lot of effort for fraud.

Regarding the comment itself though, it really can't be a distraction. R Kelly has been having legal issues for a long while. Unless this has been a plot since 1994 to distract from... what? Anything and everything? The mandate that wouldn't exist for almost two decades? The biggest problem with this is it took this long to get him behind bars.

Just goes to show green makes more of a difference than skin color.

Hunter Wallace #wingnut #racist

Hm. That's a lot of words to say "I am racist, hate America, and am a terrible person. I wish more people were horrid like me."

Silvana Falon #fundie

1. Expanding =/= Not finished. If there was a god who set everything in motion, then it'd be like saying because the atoms in your steak are still bouncing it's not a finished meal.

2. How does that even follow? Would that also mean even if we're on a flat, stationary disc that slightly slanted plants, trees. hills, or mountains worship the sun?

3. Homophones, the enemy of God. But only in English.

4. If you don't believe in grammar, irrespective a belief on gods, you won't know "where you're standing on" is wrong. Granted you're apparently rarely right, but still.

5. Observing reality =/= vain or profane babbling.

I don't really trust the Bible as an authority on anything, but even using it doesn't justify the claims.

Bennett Lee Ross #crackpot #conspiracy #ufo #magick

It's amazing how often this can work with the crap we see here, tweaked just slightly.

"Mr. Ross, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”

Judy Byington #crackpot #wingnut #conspiracy #mammon

I'm not sure if it's just how this twit writes or part of the fantasy, but why is everything past tense?

I mean, it's not like it WILL happen, what, by writing it like it has happened it will get power?

Vox Day and John Bradley #psycho

@Malingspann Yeah, it's a butchering of Closing Time.

I clicked the link to it and closed it before the guy really sang much, his voice is grating.

But it's just more of his "Old people's caretakers should smother them with pillows" bilge. When an idea starts as insipid and moronic as that one, each time they bang the drum on it it just gets worse and worse.

Michael Love and The Pleiadians #crackpot #ufo #magick #dunning-kruger

@Malingspann I dunno, with how much he's stuck in LAPS COCK wouldn't it be more likely he'd propose there are 80000D imensions?

Juvenile jokes aside, the biggest issue that isn't grammatical would be that asserting a point isn't making a point. A timeline/the passage of time is a result of things simply existing. There doesn't need to be an observer. Someone can try to demonstrate it, but they need to do more than just claim it.

Of course, this is from someone who seems to think that timelines = dimensions = reality = vibrations so who gives a fuck what this twit thinks? Can't be anything intelligent.

John Lash #crackpot #magick #ufo #conspiracy

1. Gnosticism is based on just "Having Knowledge" Gnosis means knowledge. Adding inner makes the statement false. Imagine "inner knowledge" would be endognosis, maybe? Gnosis is a noun though, so wouldn't be "knowing."
2. Gnosticism isn't based on any mystery schools, as far as I am aware. That seems (and I could be wrong, and am happy to be corrected) to be entirely a New Age Woo creation that misinterprets older mystery religions, secretive cults, and general philosophies of yore into some monolithic block that is interconnected.
3. Any assertion of what Gnosticism "was" aside from very general statements can't be correct. It was a general ideology but fractured into a myriad of often contradictory sects. You're not going to convince anyone that people who believed that flesh and sexual activity was "evil" were simultaneously practicing nonsense sex magic. Just because you believe in those particular beliefs and believe them to be right, doesn't mean people you want to associate with did.
3. Inorganic aliens that people found out about by getting high and hallucinating. Alrighty.

Kryon of the Magnetic Service via Lee Carroll #crackpot #ufo #magick #quack

"Fuckin' magnets, how do they work?"

Not in the way this idiot thinks they do. The biggest problem are thermodynamics and how as it spins it'll consume energy, meaning each subsequent spin will get closer and closer to a spot where the magnets won't push away, they'll just hover near each other. How do I know? People have tried. Hell, there are kid toys that show it off. Plus, there has to be things that convert the energy, meaning it spins against more resistance, slowing it down more. Not sure how well the spin to power equation will work out either.

The thing with the placebo effect is that it makes the patient feel better. It does not actually cure them. So for something like a mild fever, stomach ache, headache, or minor things it will "cure" the ill effects. Won't do jack to cancer. Or anything else where non-treatment will kill ya. A comparison would be to smash your hand to ease a worse pain in another place. Cured, no pain in the knee anymore! Pro tip, if your premise is an unproven idea, your resulting data might be nonsense.

Wayne Allyn Root #fundie #wingnut

I actually looked this up. Because I hadn't heard of it. And if it isn't the one he's citing, fuck it, did my side of things. Link to your sources. You're welcome for saving you all from checking his site for a source.

Rasmussen reports .com apparently does daily polls to gauge the approval rating, it says it's from 1,500 voters, +/-3%. Now, it says it updates daily at 9est. They do this by comparing the polls from the same dates, so Trump's rating on the same day compared to Biden's, 2017 vs 2021.

The OP's post came out the 9/26 at 12am. Doesn't say time zone. Assuming that, the only poll that compares Biden and Trump that was the "latest" he would be citing had Trump with a 2% lead, him at 44% approval and Biden with 42%. No mention of Harris. The last time there was at least a 10% pure difference (not including the margin of error) was 8/2, with Biden having a 49% approval rating to Trump's 38%.

Can use and search browser to look up Rasmussen presidential poll, it's the first one that comes up.

But, to save you all the trouble, the root of the issue is that Wayne is apparently demonstrably lying about this. As I said, unless there is some other post I'd have to dig around to find, WAR is a lying sleezebag. I doubt it was news to anyone, but still.

FORCES International #quack

Yeah, no. You have every right to smoke. You do not have the right to poison me or make me smell what you're smoking. Plus, a sizable portion of smokers are consummate litters, spreading trash and even starting forest fires in some cases.

Here, let's pretend there was a man named Pete. Pete likes to smear himself with crap. You can smell it on him when he's in the room, catch the odor as he's talking, catch a whiff of his stink while he's outside, even if you can't see him. You can find traces of him, see him flicking bits of his filth off of balconies when he's high up, driving around, before he walks into establishments. Any place Pete stays for a long period of time has to be deep cleaned because all the crap and fumes get into the walls.

I imagine OP and anyone reading this wouldn't want to peacefully coexist with Pete unless he changes his habits, right? To me, entitled smokers like the OP are just like Pete. Why would I want to coexist with that?

Phil Falco #wingnut

Oh, I assure you, we've paid for Trump and his ilk. Still paying for it.

But does it matter if he gets a paycheck or not if he does an objectively terrible job leading the country? His golfing trips cost us more than his presidential salary, nevermind him bilking tax payers for housing the Secret Service at the various places he stayed. Add the various legal challenges to the election, the audits, etc and Trump has personally cost tax payers a heaping amount of cash.

And this is excluding the damage to the economy, national security, public decency, democracy, and US institutions.