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Steve Beckow #crackpot #ufo

"It’s perhaps impossible for us to imagine why such a system might work."

Oh, no. It's easy. Your plan is to have a council on Earth headed by a figment of your imagination reporting to other make believe things. That's not a great way to run a planet. Hell, that's barely a way to run an imaginary tea party.

Mike King #conspiracy #racist

Even if the statues weren't racist (they are), why would a nation support memorials to traitors and/or people who activelytried to harm the US? When should we make the 9/11 bomber statues next, since you want to honor such people?

Jerry Derecha/Adrenogate #crackpot #conspiracy #quack #wingnut #elitist

So if someone asks you to follow state/local mandates or store policy you will throw such a whiney, bitchy, little tantrum that people will recoil from you, but you are quite happy to run like a coward at the first sign of opposition.

I can see why you've been barred from so many events from people who know you.

Steve Sailer #racist

But... it is a gradient?

A simple case would be, take a full blood Swedish gentleman, can trace his Swedish background back to before gunpowder was a thing, and do the same for a Congolese lady. They meet, find each other fetching, marry, have a kid. Is the kid not black? Not white? Imagine instead it was a Mongolian gentleman, or a Peruvian lady.

Now imagine that on a grand scale as trade, travel, and all sorts of stuff goes on.

Genesis and Genetics #fundie #dunning-kruger

I'll go through till I get bored, pick out the more interesting ones, ignoringthe completely nonsensical ones.

2. All bones regenerate. Ribs, provided the base is still there, will grow and replace themselves, but all bones can repair themselves.

5. Less the Y chromosome? The XX technically has a bit more stuff to it, so even taking the information at face value, Eve would be a clone if Adam with more info.

7. Not demonstrable. We are certainly social creatures, and as such are more likely to help the group, bit not programmed for "goodness."

8. Does this contradict your last point?

9. How would that work if he was born of Mary? And so Jesus looked exactly like Adam?

10. Polluted isn't how you describe junk DNA.

11. Not mentioned I'm the source material, and bad for the animals if it were.

12. Did it also have anti-gravity boosts and force fields? Just making up shit doesn't help your case.

13. Kinds isn't defined, and all species would certainty be unable to fit. With all the magic the Ark story requires, you might as well say that the Ark led to a pocket dimension of massive size, like a boat TARDIS, Boat of Animal Holding, or something else. It's no less stupid and made up, but at least as described it'd work.

14. They often aren't.

15. DNA offers no gospel.

17. You're just taking the piss, aren't you?

19 & 20 They don't fit.

21 his sister who didn't exist? His sister who was in Nod and down for fratricide? Or maybe the Mark just looked so dreamy.

21. Where did the light go then? Is there a separate light in the same spot as the sun? Does this other light so provide nutrients for plants? It's stupid either way, either God makes a light he immediately replaces/covers up or he makes planta with no sun. Pick your poison.

Ross Wind #fundie #dunning-kruger

Who claims that we have the same number of chromosomes as chimps? I've never heard that, it's always just been the DNA percentage closeness, and like previously mentioned, the fused chromosomes.

And I'm sure you could go down the list of extant primates and check out the percentage they are close to each other.

The reason pigs are used for thins like medical tests and some experiments is that they are close enough DNA wise, usually big enough, muscles/skin similar composition, and there are bunches of them. We also do testing on monkeys, but they are harder to get and people have more ethical concerns experimenting on them.

Scott Lively #crackpot #homophobia #dunning-kruger

A church being guaranteed freedom from interference in England and the US saying that all religions can practice while also not establishing a national church doesn't mean that either are theocracies.

Idiot.

The Great Work #crackpot #wingnut #conspiracy

Pandemonics, that's a new one.

And, while is individual sovereignty a stupid idea, this whole mess shows that the OP is not in any way someone who often entertains rational thoughts.

Bennett Lee Ross #crackpot #ufo #magick #conspiracy

Huh. Who'da thunk Lil' John and the East Side Boyz were so in touch with the Universe.

But, yeah. Numerology is bullshit, we don't need a new serving of word salad.

Conservapedia #homophobia

As far I was aware, there were one gay man and one gay woman in Overwatch. Soldier 76 and Tracer.

As for the former "suddenly becoming" gay, I never got into Overwatch, but isn't it more "when his sexual preference was revealed, Soldier 76 was revealed to be gay" vs him being shown to be straight beforehand?

Bennett Lee Ross #crackpot #conspiracy #wingnut #magick

"When you hear a buzzing of fluctuating frequencies in your ears
That is psychotronic weaponry"

Or tinnitus.

oenz , personalityinkwell & -_- #conspiracy #racist

First how much they plot out conspiracy ideas, it's almost funny how little they think about simple answers.

Lots of idiots like conspiratorial drivel. Becoming someone who feeds into the idiots' paranoia and delusions means they like you. People support news they like. Alex Jones doesn't need to be a toady for some dark higher power. A bit of performance art and a gullible audience will make people money. Granted he's doing it in a truly atrocious and harmful way, but selling nonsense and snake oil doesn't need someone higher up pulling the strings.

Scott Lively #homophobia #conspiracy

Sure, I will grant the possibility that disapproval of homosexuality does not necessarily lead to the things you state.

However, you aren't talking about simple "disapproval," Scott you fuckwit. For example. One notorious anti-LGBT activist went to Uganda to spread the word on the "evils" of "The Gays" to the government. Said government drafted legislation that criminalizes homosexuality, with punishments including the death penalty. The activist said that the legislation was harsh and he wouldn't support it.

So, Scott. You have personal experience where anti-gay oppression will lead to crackdowns and death, and you still tout this denialism? What an utterly morally bankrupt waste of space.

Peak Trans / Maria Maclachlan #transphobia

Now, while the comment might have sounded less gross in their head... it's pretty gross. And why reduce a pair of tits to just some body part a lover can caress? Surely the chest itself can be caressed sans mammaries? But why at least I agree with Taln about it being an... let's be generous and call it questionable comment, imagine it flipped.

"...up and down the country and around the world boys are removing penises that have never known a lover's caress"

That just sounds skeevy, right? And the defense of maiming body parts before the person is in a relationship... okay? Why would the "wholeness" of a person matter if they were in a relationship later? Does body modification in other forms draw your ire, like piercings or tattoos? Should we worry about a "lover's caress" on unblemished skin before getting a sleeve? Better question, why are we worrying about a "lover's caress" for children?

James White #fundie #homophobia #kinkshaming

Man, looking over a few of these at the site just drives home what a shitty person this James White is.

Well, him and people with the same/similar lines of reasoning. "Homosexuality can't be innate, ergo it's just like any other sin. If it's just like any other sin, I can compare it to violent acts like theft, assault, or rape. I am therefore justified treating an out homosexual like a self admitted rapist."

The problem is in the foundation of the argument and they just rage at the thought of anyone not accepting their side. Which is why he's so angrily dismissive of even the things like "Well, if someone is gay, is Christian, doesn't want sex outside of marriage and is depressed, those are all things that happen, right? This fuckwaffle is all "Yeah, I don't think something like a "gay Christian" exists, so go fuck yourself." Apparently not realizing (or callously enjoying the fact. I dunno) that that attitude is the reason that if that is all they hear from those close to them they are going to have problems. Will be depressed, won't marry someone of the opposite sex, possibly even kill themselves, etc.

Because he's so caught up on his interpretation of things, he will happily ruin lives and conflate the act of two consenting adults to rape and pedophilia.

It's a disgrace.

Iblis #conspiracy

"After WWII, the first psy-op was the Red Scare and the so-called Cold 'War' (which wasn't really a war because both sides knew they couldn't attack one another)"

That's why it was called the COLD War you dundlehead. As opposed to a HOT war with actual fighting. If you clearly don't know what you're talking about with the really basic stuff, why should we believe your crazier claims?

Vox Day #dunning-kruger #conspiracy

Ah yes, because knowing how to use Twitter really makes or breaks the Constitutional merits of overthrowing the government.

Nevermind that the person in question has a long legal career and was a potential nominee for the Supreme Court. Someone with the credentials to get three Supreme Court justices to recuse themselves from a case involving him. (FYI, someone shot his dad, he testified. The guy was appealing the death penalty. Wasn't anything he did or anything, just a really neat tidbit from looking the guy up) Yeah, someone like that can just be dismissed cause they disagreed with someone you like who makes a stupid argument.

David Mahan #fundie

I suppose the only redeeming thing I could accept from the premise is that when it comes to children, teaching them that people shouldn't be having sex with them/touching them inappropriately is okay. Knowing that no one is supposed to be doing that is sorta abstinence. That's my outlook before seeing what is actually said.

And looking at the article, yeah, fuck the Center for Christian Virtue. They say they aren't pro-child abuse, but everything they want to change will only facilitate abuse.

PWsecretlysubpoenaed #conspiracy #dunning-kruger #pratt #wingnut

Because when I think of good guys, I think of murderous despots.

Seriously, people are dying and you fucking cultists are fawning over a brutal dictator. What, was the idea of Putin raiding Ukraine to seize some baby juice harvesting devices/crops not black and white enough for you? It has to be purely diametrically opposed sides, no multiple villains, no nuance to atrocities?

Harry Walther #crackpot #fundie #ufo #magick #conspiracy

I kinda love how these cranks have such a crazed mishmash of everything in their lunacy.

This is just... usual Revelation nonsense with a sci-fi twist. Like saying the much made fun of conspiracy alien theories are real will lend the claimant credibility. How's that been working for David Icke?

Judy Byington #crackpot #conspiracy #wingnut #mammon

"Think about it: JFK Jr. “died” in a plane crash on 16 July 1999. Yet, JFK Jr. was said to have carried on the Q movement"

Yes, despite the fact authorities recovered everyone's body, autopsied them, and then cremated JFK Jr, you all insist he's still alive.

So the options are
1. He faked his death and the deaths of his two passengers (or was cool with killing them), provided a fake corpse or three to be autopsied and identified, and then vanished underground for nearly two decades. Then, his super secret plans he had worked on for decades involved him throwing support behind an incompetent, petulant, narcissistic, self-serving asshole.
2. He died in a plane crash and people have been making stuff up around the often wrong and cultish following of Q.

I wonder which is more likely?

Yakov Merkin #dunning-kruger

Honestly there are some problems with Magic.

1. Product glut. They are printing too much stuff, to leads to user fatigue.
2. Less story art. Older sets you could tell what was going on plot wise, even if there was some disconnect. Not anymore, really. What made Gerrad and the Weatherlight crew more memorable, as an example, was they were constantly on cards, through quotes or in the art.
3. Longer sets. It's part of the previous two points, but if we have just a set for a spot, why bother caring about the setting or the characters we barely know about?

That venting aside, Magic has always been inclusive and progressive. We've had many different types of heroes and heroines, not just ethnically diverse, but from different species and fantasy races across the planes. To suddenly hate on Wizards now for that is a bit silly.

Jerry Derecha/Adrenogate #crackpot #fundie #ufo #magick #conspiracy

So, let's see. So you believe that some unknown force is "possibly" trapping humanity in a giant simulation. You come up with some stupid acronym that only really works in one language without knowing a thing about etymology, which is par for course for crazies. You decided... somehow... that you think it a sinister Saturnian cephalopod. Based on nothing you decided that the simulation shaping sinister cephalopod is not only malevolent but also parasitic, and has minions to help it achieve its nebulous dastardly goals.

Now, while it is apparent you can see nonsensical alien plots, can you see why everyone else would think you're a loon for positing such a stupid idea that can't be supported?

Or would you suggest your snarky cynical naysayers are simply sinister Saturnian cephalopod spies sent to sabotage your studies into its scheming?

Peak Trans / Maria Maclachlan #transphobia

"It proves that there are trans-identifying men who are bad."

And this is a compelling argument because cisgendered women have never ever ever abused anyone.

ChrissyPinto #homophobia #fundie

There is a small qualifier that stops someone from being labeled a hypocrite. Someone can support bisexuality between consenting adults and be cool with it. That doesn't mean they support bisexual relationships or encounters that don't fall under that category. Nor does it mean they can't support people who are bisexual.

Pedophilia, zoophilia, and necrophilia can NOT fall under the qualifier of consent, so they can not be considered on the same level. Polygamy is fine with me so long as everyone is cool with it, though I hear it is hard to do.

Hunter Wallace #dunning-kruger

Usually when taking into account "Does this group fall under Republican or Democrat" independent parties are left out of the discussion. This is mostly because the US has an effectively two party system, and while third party or straight independents are in office, they aren't at a rate to be nationally relevant.

That is a problem, as it tends to help the destabilization of the nation with the more radical divisions of both parties, who in other countries would be their own groups, that make it harder to work together.

But, as for the White Nationalists, Alt-Right, Fascists, and general pieces of shit, between the two parties, they find themselves overwhelmingly either aligned with, working with, or part of the Republican party as they don't want to branch off into their own less effective independent party. It doesn't matter where you think you are on the scale.

C.T. #racist #psycho #dunning-kruger #wingnut

... who did the Spanish conquistadors save? I'll happily admit that European expansion into the Americas had the upside of destabilizing and toppling monarchies in Europe. That lead to a larger drive for democracy and human rights.

That is not a direct cause though, and even if the OP would try to justify the saving of the indigenous population from sacrifice and regional conflict, the decimation of the population far outweighs who could have been "saved."

Saying cows getting slaughtered for food is more unnecessary "suffering" than the wholesale slaughter, subjugation, and ruination of multiple nations shows the OP has an absolute shit moral compass and wretched reasoning skills.

Hajji Bilal #moonbat #psycho #racist

Ah yes, because assuming everyone in a certain group is as vile as the worst of the group and needs to be put down is such a healthy way to go about things.

So we should not only go around and kill all the Klansmen, but purge the streets of gangbangers, drug dealers, and all other undesirables, right?

Mile King #crackpot #dunning-kruger

There are big issues with the McCarthy proceedings, one major one being that liking and/advocating communism isn't a crime. Now, if someone was actively working with the USSR to undermine the USA, yeah, crime. But being of the mindset that reckless greed and crooked capitalism isn't in the best interest of the USA, you're not doing anything illegal.

So you literally can't invoke the 5th Ammendment of you don't want to testify, because you're not avoiding incriminating yourself. You're exercising freedom of speech.

Kajm #homophobia

One big problem with people complaining about stuff "going woke" is there is never really no middle ground with the detractors while the corporations pushing things can be really tone deaf, like they are with any issue. And then that causes more dissension and problems.

The fact that is sad though, is though the character might just be living their life, gay/bi/or whatever, you take that as "Everyone is gay! You are shoving your views down our throats! We're getting metaphorically sodomized by seeing something I don't like!"

Could write a freaking essay on why this isn't a simple issue, and the various aspects of it... but this guy's an idiot, so I'll not waste more time on him. Maybe if someone here wants it, but not for someone who won't read it.

Kaoru #racist

1. I somehow doubt that the "America's Greatest" moniker for Lincoln is sincere, but I'll take it.
2. So you don't understand how beating someone to a state where they are still functional doesn't make sense? A man, who is twisted enough that he considers another human being an inferior piece of property, doesn't really need much of a reason to abuse those below him. We even have pictures of the slaves and former slaves, of the abuses they endured.
3. It was always a negative for this country, and the fact you don't see anything morally wrong with owning another person as property shows that you are morally bankrupt.
4. You think if slaves were still legal after the war, the institution would have ended. Not thay they slaves would be out in the fields still, stuck in factories, doing all those just above slave labor jobs people do now? So you're morally bankrupt AND stupid.
5. Gee, it's almost like literally owning people as chattel and constantly trying to undermine them and treat them as lesser people makes a population angry. Who'da thunk it?

Quack Healer #fundie #psycho #quack #sexist

Man, it seems like most of these quacks just suggest the most loony shit to see if the people will actually go along with it.

Joe #elitist

If pot roast good enough for Dracula's favorite meal, maybe you can back off and appreciate the effort for cooking you food?

Seriously though, not sure if this is a darndest thing or more just a confusing thing.

I mean, imagine you come home and get fed by your spouse? Oh no, the horror...

Ann Coulter #dunning-kruger #conspiracy

1. It's funny when they explain why this idea is bad IN THEIR OWN ARTICLE. Fucking hell, it's almost like we wanted to avoid situations where "It’s the same reason Native Americans were annihilated by viruses" and keep people from dying or receiving permanent damage.
2. Yeah, it would have been nice. Compare the US to New Zealand who did that and had significantly lower per capita problems than us. When one side is actively sabotaging measures to solve a problem, don't act like the problem not getting solved is a surprise.

thewordwatcher #crackpot #conspiracy #dunning-kruger

Man, out of all the stupid and made up Earth models, I think the concave Earth has just gotta be the dumbest. At least someone can look and though ignorance possibly not realize the Earth isn't flat. At least no one can see inside the planet so it's easy to delude yourself into thinking it could be hollow.

But concave? Even if you don't trust NASA and satellites, we have telescopes. Even flat Earthers know about the vanishing line at the horizon, even if they have stupid ideas about it. There is so much straight magic required for a concave Earth it's laughable.

John C. Wright #dunning-kruger #homophobia

I had to look it up, because I never really got into the LoK Avatar series, but they were both adults by the series ended and they started a relationship. And checking out the terms, it seems that this is apparently where most idiots get things mixed up, as pederasty seems exclusively to define an older man and young boy. At the very least if we were to make it gender neutral it would require a significant age difference between the two partners, something two young people (even if they were minors) can't meet. This guy is a professional writer, if anyone isn't familiar with him. Knowing words or looking up a word to make sure it's used correctly is literally supposed to be his job.

As for Planned Parenthood, yes, they do help with abortions, but they also help caring for families and children. They do not engage in infanticide.

woodsglobal #crackpot #quack #dunning-kruger #pratt

Now, the idea that with less pollution and better food people could live longer isn't exactly bad on face value.

It's just investigating the claim doesn't hold up.

Humans nowadays, more remote groups that we find, have on average worse lifespans that we have overall. Found preserved bodies and grave sites also don't show any unnatural longevity. Even among animals, their fossils and remains don't exactly show that prehistoric life lived longer than contemporary wildlife.

The ancient advanced civilization idea is dismissed out of hand because there simply isn't any evidence towards it.

So, yeah. You can believe in your baseless conjecture all you want, but people are gonna make fun of you for it

Aaron #fundie

Well, I mean, IF the Heliocentric theory taught that, you would be right to dismiss it. But like other idiots who argue against positions no one holds, you would be incorrect.

The sun predates the earth by a large number of years, the planets and other things orbiting the sun cam from an accretion disc of material around the young star that eventually coalesced into the various celestial bodies. Sometimes they would collide with each other. Sometimes other objects hurtling through space would.

But that's more or less irrelevant because no one who is educated on the science (I hate saying believe like this idiot does, all religious nuts try to force beliefs into it, not knowledge based on evidence) thinks that the Earth was just sitting there before the sun proofed into existence and started dragging the planet along for a ride.

Judy Byington #conspiracy #crackpot #wingnut #magick #mammon

... you'd think of the CIA had a Death Star military space station not only would they have used it by now, but we'd be rubbing that in everyone's face.

"Hey, Vladimir Poot'n! Step the fuck back from the Ukraine or we'll zap ya with a space laser!"

"Hey, Winnie the Poo, you send any troops to Taiwan and we'll carve CIA into the Chinese mainland. We'll be able to see that and the Great Wall from space*!"

Just think of the foriegn policy boon that would be.

*I am aware you can't actually see the Great Wall of China from Space*

Unknown 4channer #fundie #pratt #senpai_noticed_us

Fundies Say the... Oddest Things, maybe? The VO and letter I can't tell also throw me off. VOI? Vol?

I mean, I've seen various iterations of wolves going "What's the worst that can happen" and ending up dogs, I suppose this is trying to mimic that in a sort of "Evolution leads to dumbasses" vibe?

But it's not like anyone against evolution would agree with the time frame. Even the wolf to dog joke doesn't suggest it's the same fucking dog in every panel, so I dunno.

I mean, I can wrap my head around what they might be going for, but none of those options are good points. Or funny, which is the point of most gag comics.

Edit: Went to the site, it is a similar joke to the wolf to dog ones, they mostly were nationality based though, one that even used the chad meme guy. None of them funny, all of them looked like crap. Humor at its finest.

unknown #crackpot

"For better or for worse" is about quality of life, not spousal abuse you twat.

Is some asshat is being abusive they already violated their marriage oath "to love and to cherish" so their contract would be void.

Hell, even Jesus said sexual immorality was a fine reason for divorce, Paul says abandonment is a good reason, and the laws of Moses has a number of examples of divorce being not only okay, but expected.

Operation Q #crackpot #conspiracy #racist #wingnut

"This is just a sliver of Obamagate and what Trump is truly up against when it comes to the Marxist Socialist Communist Luciferian Khazarian Globalist Fascist Zionist Jesuit Freemasonic Illuminati Nazi World Order."

"until he later died a natural death in a car crash in 1957."

Oh come on, you are clearly just fucking with people at this point.

Paul Wagner #conspiracy #ufo #magick #dunning-kruger

The other explanation for the Mandela effect is faulty memory and the brain's ability to delude itself.

Sure, Darth Vader never said "Luke, I am your father." But countless comedians and imitators did. No, Sinbad never played a genie, but who would think Shaquille O'Neal would be in movies? Jingle All the Way came out the same year as Kazaam, and both were in Good Burger the following year. No, Nelson Mandela didn't die in prison, but if you don't hear about someone in the news, you assume so. And so on.

One explanation doesn't require quantum space wormholes to explain it. And it's easy to test and observe.

Delahnnovahh-Starr Livingstone #crackpot #magick #ufo #fundie

In addition to what what @Basethotep said, I like how this nonsense five paragraph block 9f woo word salad doesn't actually explain what the OP even thinks a cubit is.

Using a more commonplace unit of measurement, the argument gets even sillier. Imagine if someone said "Inches were the genome of creation." Or "Meters are the building blocks of creation and extend into the second dimension."

I can only assume this person is 1. Selling some bullshit 2. Trying to take advantage of idiots not knowing a general ancient unit of measurement.

Etienne Charland, Emergence Guardian #crackpot #ufo #magick #conspiracy

Maybe the Eternals didn't mention Thoth because he isn't one the Eternals?

I mean, sure, it could be because the sneaky bird head is doing stupid made up woo bullshit. But it's not like a character not appearing in a crappy Marvel flick who's not even in the source material has to be some sorta plot.

Mike Wazaski #fundie #conspiracy

Or, and bear with me, there is no observable evidence for a flat Earth.

I think the only argument that you all have that isn't out of hand stupid is the horizon one.which, for a large chunk of time was just hard for people to debunk because of the size of the planet. But that hasn't been a serious argument for literally millennia.

Nothing else I've seen Flat Earthers spew out comes close to that, and that one is terrible. Why should he say he's wrong on the face if that?

Ann Coulter #transphobia #homophobia #pratt

Man. She's always been horrible, but remember when these right wing talking heads were at least pretending to be respectable news types?

UlrtamanZenith #dunning-kruger

But no books by D. Seuss are being banned. You lack reading comprehension if you interpret "These books are being banned" when everything objectivelytalking about the issue writes "The business that is in charge of the books decided to stop publishing books that have imagery that they don't believe is acceptable."

Now, for anyone who isn't an idiot, the difference is pretty clear, which is why your whining about this sort of thing is always met with derision.

BerryCoke8 #psycho

"...so long as it is and non-negotiably consensual!"

Well, there is the problem. Children can't give consent legally or morally. So as much as you may want to diddle kids, it never meets that one limit you yourself place.