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zay b #sexist

I’m always weirded out by people who frame human relationships in market and economy language. Yes, there’s some degree of exchange going on, but other people aren’t commodities or fungible goods! They’re not investments which exist only for future payoff! It’s also weird when the people in the conversation are both product and customer, as if they just somehow pick each other off the shelves. This is also usually the kind of person who refers to the relationship itself as “relationship maintenance” (as if having a life together was some kind of unpleasant chore).

I’ve tried pointing out that antiques exist, but that just goes into weird places like “antiques aren’t *actually* valuable and here’s why (cue lack of understanding of economic value)” or “antiques are niche interests not relevant to the conversation” or even “women age like milk, they can’t be compared to antiques”.

Patricia Cota-Robles #ufo #wingnut #magick

I note you are not saying who to vote for. I suspect that you’re trying to will your ideal candidates into existence, or failing that, mindjack some of the existing ones. I’d say “good luck on that”, except that engaging in a severe failure of morality to bring about a “good” outcome is not something I should be encouraging even if the attempt wouldn’t actually do anything.

xx_peepeefart69_xx #wingnut

You know, I kind of want to pit the “abortion is murder” crusader fundies against those “meat is murder” crusader vegans. Nobody wins, but at least it’ll keep them out of everyone’s hair for a few hours.

Pahlavan #sexist #wingnut #conspiracy #pratt

I don’t think they understand what those words mean. “Autonomy” means that one has the right to self-determination. “Body Autonomy” means the right to determine what happens to your own body (usually used in the context of health care, but also social, sexual, and employment situations). Fetuses don’t have rights, and don’t have the capacity to determine anything. Hell, even toddlers aren’t treated as having much capacity for determination unless you’re one of those people who let their kids run feral.

This isn’t even a case of aping left-wing political terminology without an in-depth understanding of the issues behind them, it’s a case of not even understanding regular language.

I’m guessing that they mean the right to inviolability, which is a different conversation from the one they probably think they’re having.

@TheJohnLittle #sexist #quack #conspiracy

One of those things where, when they come out of the blue, the WTF factor overwhelms the offense.

Lauren Boebert #fundie #transphobia #wingnut

Huh. Turns out there’s something called the “LGBTQ+ Equality Caucus”. There are two smaller subsets referred to as “task forces”, one specifically dedicated to Trans issues and another specifically dedicated to LGBTQIA+ Elder issues.

Their website doesn’t list the full membership of the task forces for some reason, just the co-chairs, but it does list the full membership of the Caucus, and there are a lot of familiar names on there, including my own representative. I don’t know if they actually accomplish anything useful, but it’s nice to know they exist, at least.

Steve Kirsch #conspiracy #wingnut

You know, this made me curious about whether dying from anaphylactic shock (particularly from an allergic reaction) counts as a “natural death”. It turns out that the answer is “it depends”. Sometimes it counts as a natural death for legal and/or statistical purposes, sometimes it counts as an accidental death, and sometimes “other”, sometimes it depends on the exact circumstances. And for legal purposes sometimes it counts as a homicide instead of or in addition to one of the other things (in at least some cases where it was induced by another person, whether purposeful or not). So there’s no universal agreement here.

Henry Makow PhD #sexist #racist #wingnut #conspiracy

@shy #133019
Men want power. Women want love.

TIL I’m a woman

I want both, does that make me non-binary? But non-binary people don’t exist in their world, so I guess I don’t exist then?

Evening-Lion4038 & RangerRickReporting #wingnut #fundie

You know, I’m tempted to troll these people. Pretend to support their views, but then segue into the things that the worst incels want which also happen to be fully compatible with their views… and end with “And the age of Satan begins!” It probably wouldn’t work unless I was a man or was pretending to be one online though, and even then unless they were very familiar with incels or it was part of a large-scale trolling campaign I’d just get dismissed as a random kook.

I’m only tempted, though. I know it’s a bad idea to fight evil with worse evil.

DabblingDonkey #wingnut

Personally I’m concerned that so many people are starting to say that everyone wants to do/live everything the “one true way” (whatever they think that is) and the only reason why anyone would choose otherwise is via violent coercion. Because it’s leading to the belief that the only counter is violent coercion the other way.

I mean, they always believed that, but we’re increasingly seeing that belief translated into action.

scalliano #wingnut #crackpot

Wanna bet this person believes in one-size-fits all culture? That actual quality of life doesn’t matter for those on the fringes, and they’ll only defend those people’s “rights” to exist in misery?

WestCanMan #wingnut #quack #sexist #conspiracy

@Speakeasy #132862

If you don't want it, you're free not to take it,

A lot of major companies gave ultimatums, though: “Get vaxxed, take other (more inconvenient) approved measures to keep you from infecting others, or get fired” and they really didn’t like that. It’s a total violation of their freedom to recklessly endanger themselves and others while denying that any danger exists. /s

Planet Kabiru via Erena Velazquez #magick #ufo #conspiracy #crackpot

pennygadget #transphobia

Maybe it’s time to realize that no one is on your side, never was, never will be?

Regardless of what you intend, your desired social policies were always aimed towards a patriarchy run by women. (Which is not the same thing as a matriarchy, and while conceptually bizarre, is not actually a contradiction in terms. The fundamentals of patriarchy can survive without men in charge.) Conservatives don’t want women taking over their system. Liberals don’t want a patriarchy or a matriarchy. You don’t even entirely want what you’re working for, because you’re hoping it will somehow end up as something different, but don’t have a plan… or a clue. Maybe you should take this as a wake-up call to rethink everything?

🌿Witchy Kay🌿 #fundie #sexist #wingnut #dunning-kruger #pratt

You can still get an ectopic pregnancy removed.

I find that wording a bit odd. Is this person thinking that “removing” an ectopic pregnancy doesn’t count as a real abortion, or that it will be re-implanted after? Because there’s never been a successful case of the latter.

And if the former, if you have an incurable condition where pregnancy has a very high rate of fatality for both mother and potential child, I’m not sure how you can justify an abortion in that case as a mere “removal”.

James Cary #sexist #fundie

I haz connnccceeerrrns… that kids being aware of a future where things might be different will make them think it’s actually true today and act accordingly, making them into dysfunctional adults!

Suuuurrre you do. We’re already deceptive towards children in small ways because it’s easier on us and them, and they manage to sort it out by the time they’re teenagers. You’re just worried that once they sort it out some of them will take this particular vision of the future as an ideal.

Jordan Peterson #dunning-kruger #pratt #quack #transphobia #wingnut

It’s been quite awhile since I’ve seen the argument that “trans people are just extra gay” (with the specific exception that transmen are “lost lesbian sisters” from TERFs). The fact that most transphobes at least sort of acknowledge that trans people have widely varied sexual orientations shows how out of touch he is.

Liz Wheeler #fundie #sexist #wingnut

We say it’s a zygote or a fetus for most of the pregnancy. We’re not discussing whether it is a baby because we have long established that it is not a baby. The fact that you don’t accept that answer doesn’t mean we aren’t giving one.

minotaurbeach #conspiracy #homophobia

Usually I can at least mostly imagine what the endgame of the supposed conspiracy is (even if it makes no actual sense in the real world) but I’m at a loss here. The fact that there seems to be two completely different conspiracies here doesn’t help.

Republican Party of Texas #wingnut

Some notes:

• This comes up pretty much every year.
• The Texas State Constitution says nothing about secession. Even if it did, there is currently no path to secession under the US Constitution; that would require an amendment.
• What the state might be able to do at this point is divide itself into up to 5 smaller states, which was part of the agreement for Texas to join the union. Whether the agreement is enforceable would be up to the Supreme Court, and even then, the new states might still need to go through the same process as any other prospective new State.
• I suspect the above will not happen because once there’s a serious enough threat to Republican power there that they’d try to split up to retain control in some of the new states, it would probably be far too late to try.

Charlie Kirk #conspiracy #wingnut

The year is 2040. Every white conservative male owns an AK-47 and totes it everywhere; anyone else possessing a gun is just asking to get slaughtered along with everyone else nearby. Mass shootings happen an average of 1.4 times per hour, usually in response to someone refusing to comply with demands which are illegal, impossible within the available time and resources, or even literally impossible. The cops mostly arrest people for complying with illegal demands under the threat of mass slaughter. The last two Americans die in a hail of each other’s bullets in 2054 over a trivial disagreement.

dn #psycho #wingnut #kinkshaming

Rape Pillows

I am aware that there are people who use body pillows as sex toys, often covered with pillowcases which look like Anime girls in lingerie. But… it’s a pillow. You can’t rape an inanimate object. There’s no evidence that sex with pillows encourages consent violations of flesh-and-blood humans (granted, I doubt there have been studies). Why do you think that this would be seen as anything other than a trolling attempt?

(Unless this is a slang term for something else entirely, though I doubt that because there’s no such entry in Urban Dictionary.)

Leor Sapir #pratt #transphobia #wingnut #racist

People who “diagnose” ROGD in their own children are transphobes and, with rare exceptions, also strongly enforced gender norms on them. You also can’t get an “official” diagnosis of ROGD (except from psych quacks) because it’s not a recognized disorder or medical condition. And such a diagnosis wouldn’t do anything meaningful anyway (except maybe give the parents an excuse to send them to conversion therapy or similar abuses) because there’s no recognized treatment.

@Sasha #132396
It’s a goal for tradcons, yes, though they might not care for the reasons why it’s happening. Neocons, not so much, especially the ones who fetishize teenagers.

Liz Wheeler #conspiracy #wingnut

That’s the problem with “law and order” conservatives these days (at least in the US, not sure about elsewhere). They don’t understand law (both what specific laws exist and how laws work), and their “order” is not one supported by existing laws.

Of course thanks to decades of blocking liberals and moderates from Federal Court appointments and the balance of the Supreme court shifting to having 5 Federalist Society members thanks to Trump, they’re working on changing the laws to what they think it should be (which is not always the same as to the way they think it should work, because again, they don’t understand law).

Nediljka_Orwell #transphobia

You do realize that’s already against the law, right? What you’re doing is adding an additional disproportionate punishment for a subset of the population. That’s a violation of both equal rights and justice.

Chadwick Moore #racist

My initial reaction was to suggest switching pride month with black history month, and then say that the straights can’t have Valentine’s day anymore. That would only work if this person is a fake gay though.

Avoid_the_Groid #dunning-kruger #racist

“Avoid the Groid” was a frequent poster on N*gg*rmania, a website which showed up here a lot for awhile, and then was banned from having posts about it due to there being very little variety in them. They have the “humor” of a virulently racist three-year-old (apologies to actual three-year-olds) except with less imagination. I’m going to guess that they lost their website at some point and this is a replacement.

Aleks Svetski #conspiracy #crackpot #dunning-kruger #elitist #god-complex #mammon

I will concede that there is one - and only one - good thing about cryptocurrency: the laws of the US, UK, Saudi Arabia, China, and Russia have too much influence over the major credit providers, and it affects everyone, the world over. This doesn’t meaningfully affect the average person yet, but for some marginalized or niche communities, it means that they either have to conform to certain norms or eschew credit for certain financial purposes, or even occasionally be forced to resort to illegal means to do/buy/sell things which are legal in their own country. While it does make it harder to do things which probably should be crimes everywhere but aren’t, it is otherwise not for the better.

Granted, Russia and China would be less of an issue if they successfully decoupled themselves from the global internet and economy, but that would be very bad for other reasons.

While crypto is an answer to that, it is not all that great of a solution. And these whiny techbros aren’t disadvantaged in any significant way. What do you even need to buy with them, cocaine? Work on drug legalization instead, idiot. Trying to convert a few extra million into an asset for financial reasons? Buy a luxury condo. (Actually don’t, this is a terrible trend which is slowly turning cities into wastelands of empty condos.) Otherwise that Sovereign Citizens Lite thing you’ve got going is just a greed cult.

Dave #fundie #sexist

I don’t think “subhuman” is the right word here. “ahuman” or “inhuman” fits better, depending on what connotation you’re intending. Or even “antihuman”, but that would be kind of a weird connotation for a supposed creator deity who supposedly hasn’t turned against his creation.

So The Transformed Wife gets a taste of what Fundies look like to regular people from another Fundie…

Kevin Sorbo #conspiracy #wingnut

If you’ve got a significant number of followers, a lot of them are going to be fake. Also most of them are going to be fake if you paid a bot farm to inflate your numbers.

A lot of people vote and also don’t use Twitter. 🙋🏻‍♀️ (Raises hand) A lot of people who vote and do use twitter don’t follow politicians.

Kajm #dunning-kruger

@TheKingOfRhye #131398 , @Sasha #131416

The Wall. It’s now crumbling and there have been a few collapses, and people have stolen chunks of it for scrap, but hey, he did a wall thing. Everyone loved that. [Narrator: Not everyone loved that.]

@We_Love_Trump #wingnut #conspiracy #quack

Gregory Hood #dunning-kruger #racist #wingnut

What else would you call them?

I mean, by historical ancestry, most hispanics are some mix of white, native central or south american (with sometimes a bit of native north american mixed in), west african black, and often a bit of north african as well. While there are indeed people who identify as hispanic whites and hispanic blacks who could in most cases select according categories if “hispanic” stopped existing, what about everyone else? “Mixed race”? “Other”? Racists aren’t going to see most of them as white, even if you insist they are.

Kajm #dunning-kruger

Not going to deny that Biden’s popularity hasn’t been doing so well for awhile. Some of that is people blaming him for not doing anything about price gouging and inflation (that’s congress’s wheelhouse, the president can’t do much). Some of that is people blaming him for not dealing with the supply chain issues (that’s a global problem which will take a long time to deal with). Some of it is for the increase in gas prices (what is Biden supposed to do, hand Ukraine to Russia on a platter?). Some of it is because he did too little or too much in regards to the pandemic. Some is because he’s “too old” (Trump is 4 years younger than Biden and will be “too old” in 2024, yet some of those people want him back). Stupid reasons, of course, but that sort of thing happens with a lot of presidents, as most people don’t really follow politics or global affairs all that much.

But “hard left in who they poll”? Not a thing. Right-wing media do push-polls so that they can influence their side’s popularity; mainstream and left-wing media try to get accurate polls so that their sides can strategize accordingly.

Blacks and hispanics are not “flooding to the Republican party”. There is a small increase in hispanics voting Republican out of (unfounded) fears of Venezuela-style socialism coming to the country, which is ironic considering how Republicans would likely deport them if they ever got real power. Black people have been voting Democrat more, in part *because* of Biden, but we’ll see if that lasts.

Sir Jaymo [ID] #wingnut #pratt

I’ve only ever heard “birthing people” being used as a category, not as a reference to individuals. Well, outside right-wing attempts to mock the concept. If a non-binary or agender person wants to refer to themselves that way, more power to them I guess, but I suspect that most of them who would prefer to use a non-gendered term for parent would just use “parent”.

Also, given that bees are a subcategory of fish, this would be like saying “no, you were stung by a non-aquatic invertebrate” if they were elsewhere. 😜

Jake Lang/Amir George #fundie #wingnut #conspiracy

Hmm… I just checked and apparently her name was actually “Rosanne Boyland” (no “e” between “Ros” and “anne”) but some websites have her first name misspelled as “Roseanne” or her last name as “Boylan” or both. Corrected that in my previous post.

Christian Patriot News #wingnut #fundie #conspiracy

Good lord, if anyone I knew who doesn’t follow this sort of stuff happened to read this, I’d probably have to give an in-depth explanation of every single one of the conspiracy theories mentioned here. Maybe I’d just go with “The people who think the 2020 election was stolen really went all-out with the conspiracy theory soup. You’re probably better off not knowing.”

Russian Government #wingnut

They might realistically be able to enforce this if Wikipedia were in any way Russian-based (it’s not; it’s based out of San Fransisco, CA and Tampa, FL) but allowing any government to dictate what it can publish would invalidate the website’s purpose for existing. At most, they can only go after editors within Russia’s borders.

It would be a different thing if this were an international business website which does business within Russia, but assuming they were located elsewhere they could always choose to not do business within Russia anymore if the required changes are unfeasible.

James Howard Kunstler #transphobia #wingnut #conspiracy

The message is: we will take your children and destroy their minds, and pretend that it’s just another module of their education…

I see you are misinterpreting things here! No, the message is “we will expose people to a wide variety of possibilities so that people can more easily figure out who they really are”. That’s an anathema to people who have already predetermined who their children are without much input from their child, and consider any deviation from that to be “confusion”. Sorry, not quite how that works - if someone is forced into predetermined boxes, but they fit poorly, then that’s what causes the “confusion”.

I mean, I get that having too many options causes paralysis of choice, but you don’t choose who you are - you discover who you are. What you do choose is whether and how to express who you are. That’s a distinction too many people don’t get.

Jake Lang/Amir George #fundie #wingnut #conspiracy

For reference as to what actually happened, there were two groups there that day. The larger group was there to protest; the smaller group was there to storm the capitol. Rosanne Boyland was part of the larger protest group, and she was trampled to death by the smaller storming group.

One of her friends called for help as she laid dying, attracting attention from both civilians present and from the police. This resulted in a fight between the police and her other would-be saviors. He may have *intended* to be “simply trying to save her life” but that’s not what landed him in prison - it was for assaulting a cop.

Regardless of whether it was reasonable to engage in self-defense against the police in this particular scenario, this is one of those idiots who engage in all sorts of bad behavior but never learn because they believe any negative consequences are other people “persecuting them for being a real Christian”.

Johnny Vincento #crackpot #ufo #magick

The only known way to create a black hole under current physics, aside from prematurely collapsing a sufficiently large star (which we can’t even get to yet) is by accelerating two long, thin, massive rods to 99.99+% lightspeed at each other so that the tips collide with each other in an extremely precise fashion. Nobody has tried that because it would require a lot of space infrastructure and the energy costs would be stupidly high. We do not yet understand black holes well enough to turn one into a wormhole, or even if wormholes can truly exist, though such an experiment would at least give us one to study up close.

On top of that, current theories about wormholes is that if you tried to arrange them in such a way that causality can be violated, they would collapse. It turns out that it’s probably possible to travel through a wormhole (assuming they can exist) to get to somewhere light-years away over a period of weeks or months rather than centuries or millennia without violating causality, but it comes with some severe caveats which don’t allow time travel or the type of remote viewing described above.

Also wormholes (probably) aren’t dimensional portals; the only ways I know of reaching alternate realities or “other dimensions” are pure math abstractions which we currently have no idea how to even begin proving whether they’re possible in the real universe.

Benjamin Fulford #crackpot #conspiracy #wingnut #racist

“Khazarian Mafia” is weird enough - but “Ibericoamerica”? In context, this seems to mean “South and Central America” or possibly just the Spanish speaking parts of it… regardless, a real-world region. Wherever they’re referring to, nobody calls it that. Which makes me suspect they’re taking about some secretive geopolitical alliance, which is a dumb idea. Geopolitical alliances don’t meaningfully work unless everyone knows about them.

Don Vito #crackpot #sexist #transphobia

Pretending to be a femboy or an enby wouldn’t help you, at most it might very slightly damage the reputations of those groups.

In addition, if you’re seriously willing to try such a thing, there’s a good chance you wouldn’t be pretending, but finding your true self… in which case it might actually help you. Not to get laid, though, at least not in the short run. Or not, you might just be extra stupid about this in particular on top of your usual stupid.

(Incidentally, this is not the same situation as “bigots are what they hate the most”, which while it can be true it mostly isn’t. Bigots who hate themselves don’t suggest pretending to be the very thing they hate.)

A.L.L #quack #fundie

I don’t know much about this, but I wouldn’t be surprised if this wasn’t well-tracked in the US. I also wouldn’t be surprised if they were going by outdated statistics.

But what I do know that this is better tracked in some other countries, and that the death rate from abortion complications appears to be roughly a quarter of the death rate from birth complications, and both are very low if done in a clinical setting.

Regardless, “we don’t know, but the number must be very high because it would justify my agenda” is a pretty shaky basis for anything.

Menno Mafait #crackpot

Let me guess, you got tired of people saying “If you don’t believe in science, then why are you using the internet?” and instead chose to only believe in science which has a direct, obvious-to-the-layman connection to everyday technology? Gee, how generous of you.

Emilio Lizardo #sexist

I’m in my 40s and I *have* all I really want, and that does not include a family. I have no issue finding men; I’ve never been single for long since I started dating in my mid-20s despite my rather particular tastes (which do not include social status or money but do include them being “properly submissive”). “Regret, resentment, and depression” is something I mostly see from women who lived as the kind of “traditional” wife you’re probably promoting, while having personalities unsuited to that kind of life.

I suspect that you would find my life to be “low-value”. As if I cared about the valuation of a sewer dredge like you.

Connie Johnson Waterman #homophobia #wingnut #psycho

What, it’s pride month and the explosion of rainbow products makes you think “everyone hates straight people now”? Nobody is against heterosexuality. (Okay, there are probably a tiny few somewhere who do, because, you know, humans.) What a lot of people hate are The Straights™. Those people are terrible in a particular way that only heteros can be, to the point where even most other straight people are like “OMG what the hell is wrong with you?!” while insisting that it’s all part of being the one true and correct way of heteroing. If this sort of thing offends you, then maybe you’re one of The Straights™ and should do something about that.

Anonymous #fundie

Geneticists haven’t been messing with fruit fly DNA in order to create, I don’t know, crocoducks or whatever, they’ve been doing it to figure out how genes work.

Various GLPers #racist #wingnut #homophobia

<@Croquemitaine> #129782

I did check, and it appears that this is referring to CNA Fest in Nashville. They’re banning the confederate flag, among other things because due to demographics shifts, Nashville is now only 55% white (the remaining 45% consists almost entirely of a mix of black, non-white hispanic, and middle eastern). They’re concerned that open displays of confederate symbols might drive off non-white performers and fans, especially black people.