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It's difficult to determine if it's a proper presentation of events, how doctored it is and for some of the claims, if it was provocateurs, how much of the crowd was involved in what, etc. But when reading it, what I see is a message with parts stuck in the past, apparently to stir conflict.

For instance, many recognize the war crimes of Israel's current regime without confusing it with the Jews in general and without sporting Sinwar banners. And we've all seen the propaganda trying to misconstrue that awareness as antisemitism. This suggests that there's some straw man here...

Giggle #fundie

Science has, even if you deny it and have been misled with straw men, to steal your ability to reason, to make you distrust knowledge and to exploit you.

Philmon TM #fundie

Jeremy Turner-Welch #magick #mammon

J.D. LUSH #crackpot #conspiracy #mammon

“ART IS A COLLECTION OF BROKEN PEOPLE BREAKING OTHERS TO FIX THEMSELVES.”
Sounds like you read Laurel K. Hamilton. I mean, i HOPE she’s getting some therapy from her writing…

“We are taught that artists… make life worth living.”
IIRC, I was taught that ART makes life worth living. Whether you produce it or consume it, or in some rare instances, critique it.

"We are told that creativity is the highest expression of the human spirit.”
It’s AN expression of human spirit. But some days, so is coffee.

“We are told that Art is a gift.”
Meh. Most of my art classes taught me that it’s a skill. Writing, painting, sketching, dancing, interpretive underwater basket weaving… No one’s born able to paint the Sistine Chapel.

“Every brushstroke, lyric, film, and work of art exists to satisfy the artist's primal desires for money, fame, sex, power, revenge, or the desperate need to self-medicate and control their own reality.”
Hmmm. I write because I have to. I don’t see money, fame, sex, power from my writing. I have sometimes made a joke for revenge. I have no idea what you mean bty self-medicating my reality.

"…this book strips away the mythology to reveal the cold mechanical truth:
The Artist is the Enemy.”
Ah. People keep calling your ChatGPT art ‘crap,’ don’t they?

“You will discover why the gap between the Creative Visionary and the Genocidal Tyrant is zero.”
I just keep thinking of creative people who’ve toured Trump’s homes and found no art, no music, no literature… Just price tags.

"Why your favorite song isn't healing you — it's colonizing you.”
My favorite song is a fugue… I’ve never thought of it as ‘healing.’ More like penance.

“The Artist doesn't want to connect with you.”
Frankly, as someone who produces things that could be called ‘art,’ the consumer is the least of my motivations. I do take a moment or two to make sure that my work can be understood, but I don’t sit down and think of an idea that’ll make me popular with a certain demographic.

Stephen Lendman #conspiracy

J.D. LUSH #crackpot #conspiracy #mammon

A failed artist more bitter about the Academy’s rejection than Hitler?

PS:
So, going by his biography, he is a hyper-cynical wannabe Socrates/Batman villain utterly convinced that, deep down, everyone is an utterly selfish arsehole and all goodness a lie, and thus, artists - who, he claims, all, and they alone, of all the many people he “interviewed”, gave idealistic motivations to their choice of career, therefore, they must be hiding the darkest secrets…

Walid Shoebat #fundie

What is there to refute?
This is just victim blaming.
Those that were invaded deserved to be invaded?
Okay. God makes sure to send invaders on just causes.
Then that would also apply to the Confederacy, no? I mean, just as example.
And Germany when the Nazis took over?
And Germany when the Nazis were defeated?
And everyone saying that modern immigration is an ‘invasion’? How do we know that’s not God’s judgment on the US?

So, nothing to refute, just bullshit that doesn’t stand up to scrutiny…

Donald J. Trump #crackpot

WTF? Maybe Trump's really an AI!

It's also unclear if he really wrote that or not, as various people write his bullshit memes on asocial lies. But outside outright madness, it can also be seen as more evidence of corruption and of a regime against the people, here perhaps even against humanity... The above grift theory fits with standard Trump practice, then we know that he's the puppet of oil and tech business.

There's a predatory media grab taking place and various are firing employees to replace them by AI, so many are making lists of unreliable media and the date an outlet was taken over. Bullshit regimes are highly reliant on disinformation. We knew since the start that Trump's agenda was one of bullshit, with his demonization of the independent press.

When Trump is held responsible or his bullshit, he blames others and tries to pretend that it's the opinion and agenda of the people, because it obviously isn't. The same reason he claims to be the people when demonizing the actual people. "Enemy of the people" projection...

Kobs #psycho #wingnut

jamesbond631 #fundie

“I say, you have no right to talk about god in that way what so ever!”
Really? What way should I talk about that violent, whimsical, sexist, cruel sadist who uses suffering to achieve his ends?
And what prevents me from saying that?

“I think that you are the one that NEED'S to grow up dont you think?”
No, don’t think there’s any problem on the atheists’ end.

“There has to be more then just one christian here then me.”
Sure, probably.

“I also dont care if you think i am a homophobe, It says in the good book that it's for man and woman.”
I think that you thinking that your opinion matters to people who aren’t your flavor of Christain is irrational. And phobias are irrational. So, done and done.

“also old chap i am not a little man as it go's.”
You write like you’re in 6th grade.

“oh i am sorry i called you miss”
Yes, your regret shines like the inner glow of a turd.

“it's just that you was having a go like a woman would.”
AND sexist? What a winner!

unsocia1able #wingnut #sexist

@Timjer #267326

Oh, come on, I’m sure we’ve all had that reasonable moment when throwing ketchup on the wall is the only logical action to take to being told, ‘No.’

Dodie Osteen #fundie #quack

Sounds like a scam... Distract from health and disease with stories of attacks by imaginary beings then claim to cure them of those imaginary threats... What was the expectation from people for you to finally "free them of your curse"?

Leslie Bartley #wingnut

What amazes me is that we finally get a President who is not afraid to lead, to put America first

Huh. So you think the following are good things? Him putting America ‘first’? Creating his own personal thug army, creating a trade war with every single country but Russia, losing most of our allies over stupid shit, backing out on treaties like with NATO, quitting programs like WHO and then lying about those programs, destroying agencies designed to protect people from out of control corporations like the EPA, and specifically letting Elon himself destroy a number of agencies that are designed to protect everyday Americans like the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau because they were investigating him, allowing diseases like measles and fucking polio to gain a foothold again, threatening people he disagrees with with jail time, actually putting people he disagrees with in jail with very lengthy sentences, creating a video in which he literally shits on America, including specific protesters that he feels threatened by, creating concentration camps, using our treasury (meaning our tax dollars which people like you frequently whine about poor people getting a tiny bit of for food, housing, and medical care) to line his and his cronies’ pockets, murdering fisherman in the *Gulf of Mexico and the Pacific, kidnapping another nation’s leader on imaginary drug charges and installing a puppet regime in that leader’s stead, denying another nation fuel and food so we can ‘starve them into giving up their leaders and letting Trump take over, repeatedly threatening our neighbors, causing both of them to ally with other nations when they used to be allied with us, getting embroiled in another Middle East forever war because he thought it would make him look tough, destroying parts of the White House associated with people he is jealous of and now ideologically opposed to in order to install an ugly-ass golden
Ǒìballroom, lying that it is for national security purposes so he could get approval and once again use our tax dollars, repeatedly threatening to run for a third term regardless of the fact that it would be illegal, and also implying that he might try other ways to stay in power even though the constitution is quite clear on this subject, threatening to tear down the Kennedy Center if they don’t allow him to put his name on it instead, deregulating the factory farms, dismantling the FDA and causing rampant spreading of a number of food-borne illnesses, holding people’s SNAP benefits for ransom so the opposition party would be forced to come back to Congress and give him what he wants, tolìrying to cause race wars in blue states to divide people in order for his party to win the midterms because if they don’t he’ll be investigated (and hopefully impeached and maybe he even might even face some legal trouble - a girl can dream), not paying our soldiers, abandoning our troops and letting our Middle East bases get destroyed, using up all of our munitions, installing an obnoxious arch and dedicating it to himself, anyway, I could go on but I think I’ve made my point.

to use common sense and make tough decisions and act decisively,

What do you mean by ‘common sense’? Because I sure don’t find the way he’s acting to be common or sensible. What tough decisions is he making, exactly? “Gee, I’ll take the money I stole from our soldiers and put it in this account, not this other one”?

and the spoiled brats of society who don't respect authority do nothing but try to undermine everything good Donald Trump has done.

‘spoiled brats of society?’ That’s so bad it’s good. It might make a good band name. And feel free to tell us what he’s done that’s supposed to be good?

They call his strength Fascism and create trouble where it doesn't need to be created.

No, we call his fascism fascism. And he’s the one creating trouble, not us. Calling what he does ‘good leadership’ or ‘strength’ tells me you wouldn’t recognize either if they came up and kicked your ass.

*No, I will never fucking call them the Gulf of America or Lake America. And besides, those were just one step down from what he really wants, the Gulf of Trump and Lake Trump and he likely would be fine with just renaming everything in the entire world ‘Trump’ 🤢🤢🤢🤮

Edited for grammatical mistakes, better wording, and an unfinished sentence.

Matt Walsh #crackpot #dunning-kruger #fundie

Polishguy #fundie

“As far as I can see, the reason that virginity pledges do not work is because pre-marital sex is no longer taboo.”
So, I want my daughter to sign a contract that says premarital sex is taboo for her, but it won’t work because it’s not taboo to her?
You sound Catholic… I mean, the Church grows less and less relevant or authoritative, but it’s society’s fault, not the Church’s?

“Sex is being glorified, when it should be shunned.”
Someone a while back defined the entire movie industry by the motto: Women have tits and men want to see them. Sex isn’t being glorified by the media, sex is glorified by humanity. The media just responds in the hopes of the advertising dollar.
And shunning sex goes against everything that makes us human.

“Teenagers need to be taught that sex for any purpose other than procreation is an evil act.”
Every year, Mormon girls show up at BYU with the certainty that extra-marital sex is bad. And they meet upperclassmen who have had sex and lightning did not strike. And everything they were taught growing up loses all credibility.
Same way kids try weed and find out D.A.R.E exaggerated the dangers.
Same way they meet gays and lesbians and find out their pastor was making shit up.
Same way they take a biology class and find out their creationist teachers have NO credibility.

“This way, they will avoid sex for fear of going to hell.”
Which will only last as long as the fear lasts…

“Besides that, condoms don't work.”
Yes, this is why Africa is an AIDS hellhole: Catholic lies about condoms.

Ben johnson #fundie

Lauren Witzke #wingnut #conspiracy

shii410 #wingnut #crackpot

PastorLindstedt #racist

Alan Burns #fundie

David J. Stewart #fundie

Marjorie Cole #fundie #wingnut #quack #conspiracy

Wayne Allyn Root #conspiracy #wingnut

JE Aggas #crackpot #conspiracy #fundie #wingnut

Medeea Greere #quack #ufo #magick #wingnut

Ray Comfort #fundie

Rona Renegade #fundie

KO #fundie

We kinda fixed the ozone hole. We can't fix climate change. Not anymore, anyways.

Also, blind sheep have nothing to do with the ozone hole. We didn't know there was an ozone layer in the 17th century. We didn't know ozone existed. We didn't know UV light existed. Blind sheep couldn't have been affected anyways, the hole never covered Chile. If you're going to make something up, at least make it believable.

John C. Wright #dunning-kruger #fundie

The only people who use smart words are the educated, therefore trump should continue to be allowed to break the law?

Did that make more sense in your head, John?

Leslie Bartley #wingnut

There is absolutely a need for trouble. Execute trump, his cabinet, and everyone who voted for him, or continue to suffer the consequences of your inaction. Do it live on TV if that's what you sick fucks are into.

The only good fascist is a dead fascist.

5uperman #fundie

Rom831 #fundie

“learning to survive requires intelligence.”
If that were true, I wouldn’t have to worry about my bread molding on the counter. I’d just have to watch for when the bacteria discovered fire and spray the area the smoke’s coming from.

“A person who is a "vegetable" doesn't possess inteligence.”
Two ’Ls’ in ‘intelligence.’

“They do not posses the ability to survive.”
We’re social animals at the tail end of a couple billion years of evolution. Most humans cannot survive without the help of others. Drop most of humanity in the Amazon, most of them will be eaten. But no one’s claiming humans are the common ancestor to humans, fish, bacteria, oak trees, and Donald Trump.

“A respiratior can make them breathe, they can be fed by an IV. but they no longer posses the intelligence to survive.”
Oh! You got intelligence right on the second try! Good for you! Now, look up respirator? And possess?

"So left alone, they'd die.”
Just like most of humanity.

“ Same with that immaginary first lifeform.”
Small problem with your analogy, here. For a lifeform to die, it has to be alive, first. So, by this logic, you’ve accepted abiogenesis, and think you’ve disproven evolution because of things no one is actually claiming.

Rom831 #fundie

Naama Kates #sexist

Pastor Visser #fundie

“I feel that most 'atheists' are only as such out of pure ignorance of the facts.”
I’ll bet forty quatloos that I am not ignorant of your ‘facts,’ and another forty that they’re not facts.

“Sure, tons of these guys say things like "It's been forced down my throat" or "they've been trying to predict the end of the world forever" but only a fool would”
Um, that, right there, ‘only a fool would’? That’s not a ‘fact,’ that’s your opinion.
Not saying I disagree with it, but it’s not a ‘fact.’

“allow the mistakes or misinterpretations of others to dictate their beliefs to them.”
Kind of hilarious coming from someone who quotes the Bible. That’s a lot of men’s interpretations that created the Articles of Faith, which were used by the editors to compile the Books in the final version.
So, It appears to me that you’ve called yourself a fool.

“One merely need to look at the intricacies of human birth and pregnancy”
Argument from complexity is not a fact.

“or the simple beauty of a lake or tree to know that man can't 'create' those things”
Is anyone claiming men created lakes? Or, well, I grew up fishing at a lake that was man-made. But is anyone claiming the beauty of dammed lakes to be an artifact?

“yet how many cling to 'chance theories' dreamed up by even bigger antichrists then they.”
Yeah, I don’t see a reason to believe in Jesus, much less any anti-Jesus.
So, again, you’re just name-calling without any ‘facts’ that would educate me into a belief.

“But hey! Let's see what Almighty God thinks about it:”
I know just a little too much about the history of the Bible to believe this is a direct quote.

CaptainRoboT2 #fundie

2003?
That was when the Northeast lost power. I was at the dentist. The lights flickered and I heard the drill in the next room slow down to a stop. Never could go back to that dentist practice just from that sound.
And she was the hottest dentist i’ve ever seen.
Thanks, Satan.

unsocia1able #wingnut #sexist

Women are “emotional drones”? Women? So the countless male dictators who rule by swinging their insecure dicks around, who disproportionally punish any dissent or criticism, who have numerous concubines or mistresses, who are so afraid of losing their power they’ll do anything to keep it, whose greed is insatiable… those “manly men” govern only through logic and reason, right?

Fuck off. Signed, a man.

“We should remove all women from every form of government,”
How many forms of government do you think we practice?
Maybe you mean LEVELS of our democracy?

“and revoke their right to vote.”
You know that’s going to take women to vote for it, right?

“There is reason as to why there suppressed in every culture.”
They can spell ’they’re’? Just guessing.

“They are to emotional drones its in the DNA.”
If they’re drones, they won’t be very emotional at all, much less TOO emotional.
And they have the same DNA you do you fucking idjit.

“Average Dad” #transphobia #wingnut

"The pain is crushing, I will say that you can survive this pain, one minute at a time, one hour at a time, one day at a time and the pain does lessen to a degree.”
Huh.
My son’s gay, I don’t consider myself a failure, i don’t obsess on him or his situation. I spent more time regretting my other son that joined the Navy and went Surface… Yeesh.

"…a wedding… devasting for me in the beginning knowing I will never walk my oldest daughter down the aisle and give her away, I will never grandparent her biological children.”
I have a grandkid. To me, that’s not the PURPOSE of having kids, it’s just a nice benefit. I don’t berate the other kids for not giving me grandkids. Jesus, you’re a selfish twat, your foster kids notwithstanding.

"most of them egged her on including their parents, no one will mention this horror, how or why would they?”
Good point. I don’t often mention doing the right thing. I don’t go home and tell my wife how many times i held the door for someone, or waited patiently until the forklift got out of the passageway. I have never ‘egged’ a transgendered person on, I just accepted it when they told me they were.
Do you imagine that we go home and tell our kids, “Hey! Talked three people into looking into a new identity today! That’s a win!”

"Maybe a muttered question once a year from a close friend or family member of "how is your oldest daughter?"”
If they still refer to him as your daughter, shouldn’t you consider that a win?

“It is crushing.”
If they still refer to him as your daughter, shouldn’t you consider that a win? Reinforcing your bigotry?

"Forgive everyone who has wronged you or your family, vengeance belongs to another and He will deal with them appropriately, our society is also coming around to see the Truth, those who did this will face consequences.”
I become more and more convinced that Christainity is nothing but a big, formal revenge fantasy.
Clearly by ‘forgive,’ they mean ‘just wait patiently for God to smite them.’

Trinidad and Tobago #fundie

"Atheism: Either there is a God, or there isnt.”
Um, no. Atheism is a lack of belief in gods. You’re trying to define agnosticism, I think? For myself, there may be a god, I just haven’t seen any reason to think so.

“Evolution: Either God created us, or we evolved.”
No, idiot. Science is naturalistic. Evolution says that evolution happened. It makes no comment on whether or not any god was involved. He could have directed key decision points.

“Im just pointing out the fallacies here,”
And making your own fallacies doesn’t prove any error in my ideology.

“this logic doesn't work. There is no middle ground, there is no inbetween.”
This isn’t logic, though. You’re offering definitions and you’re fucking it up.

Temple Messenger #fundie

“Is this not further evidence which supports my assertion that the sins of our forefathers are heaped upon their descendants?”
When I still believed, i felt that the single greatest gift Jesus offered was second chances. Salvation for our sins, mistakes, wrong beliefs, and so on.
The concentration camps would have been an ideal time and place for Jesus to appear, offering that second chance. “Your ancestors denied me, and here you are. Choose me and we’ll blow this popsicle stand.” Then start tearing up fences and throwing tanks around.

I really dislike your and other people’s efforts to blame the victims for your god’s complete inaction in times of suffering. i cannot IMAGINE a being even slightly benevolent looking down on Auschwitz, hearing the cries, and saying, “Well, I COULD help you, but 100 generations ago, you guys dissed my son.”

Leslie Bartley #wingnut

I guess you can add to that list of ‘everything good Donald Trump has done’ is the latest deal with Putain & Zelenskyy.

>15 minutes after said ‘deal’ is made, Putain attacks Ukraine

Oh wait.

JohnR7 #fundie

“I can not tell the difference between a demon and a sickness. They look the same to me.”
Then why did i have to take antibiotics for ten days?
If it was a demon, then they should have had no effect, no matter how long i took them. All demons would just present as anti-biotic-resistant from day one.

But if Big Pharma hid holy water in my meds, then it should have cleared up with the first dose in the ER, right? No need to take any meds for any length of time.

Story doesn’t hold together with reality, Jackie.

alanorei #racist

“All right-thinking Britons who love their country”
Everyone who agrees with me should agree with me?

“should oppose interracial marriage.”
Yes, that is definitely the threatening issue on the face of the planet.

“The implications of race-mixing are much more sinister than is commonly understood - individual objections notwithstanding. Integrationists by definition are far too blinkered to see the big picture.”
I will admit that it’s a close issue for me, but not that YOU are the one who sees THE big picture.
Right off, could you define race for me? Pretty please? I mean, in a meaningful way. So we can see if a couple is appropriate?

“It is common knowledge that the mainstream media and many leading politicians exert considerable pressure in favour of race-mixing and scream 'racist!' whenever any sane individual protests against this kind of coercion.”
Well, yeah. Can you think of a non-racist reason to care?
I mean, if media and politicians were trying to get chess players to marry poker players, I can’t see giving a fuck. What is it about this perceived race-mixing agenda that bothers you?

“Such pressure is mainly directed towards blacks and whites.”
Which is, probably, what sticks in your craw. I really feel that any stated objection to Asian and Mid-Easter ’race’ mixing is just window dressing so you won’t look quite so racist.

"Large-scale white and black liaisons are of course unlikely to occur in spite of media and political pressure.”
Uh huh. Then what are you worried about?
I mean, my entire life, the media has been telling me that the most desirable women are blondes. more shows than not have included a blonde woman as a sex symbol, and yet I married a woman who isn’t even slightly blonde. Weird, that.

“They could, however, be enforced by the EU”
You have the weirdest fantasies, don’t you?
Government vans from Belgium delivering your Ugandan Refugee Wife at gunpoint? Informing you that the next three wives are coming with your already-approved application to convert to Islam?