All do respect why are atheist people in this forum God please place me next to them at judgment day lol so many perverted versions of christianity only one acceptable version you either believe in Jesus and live for him or perish in hell
Re: twoxroasties wants you to be a compassionate cuck when your wife cucks you, births some chad's spawn, bails on you, and then leaves you to raise chad's spawn. women are a meme.
(C0nserve)
I had my suicide planned in case the day he would realize I wasn't worthy of his love because of my genetics would come
Roastie on leddit experiences 1% of the hardships of incel lifestyle and wants to rope already
(Brainlaid)
If you ever ascend, DNA test your kids.
Anyway, women don't have consciousness or empathy, she just isn't fucking capable of putting herself in someone else's shoes. It's all about how SHE FEELS and what happens to her.
(Administrative_Worth)
In their minds, them tricking yiu into rasing offspring is actually moral. You see that kid needs resources, it's a kid, it's pure, it's innocent, it deserves fulfillment. Plus she knows it's hers. Therefore she has even more bond to see it succeed and receive resources. Always get your kids tested. Honestly even chad should. Believe me, women cheat, a lot. If they think they can get away with it, and the guys worth it, they cheat. Fact of life.
(Deoxysxx)
I cant even call that man a cuck, he is more of a man than the real father
I'm happy to read this comment in this sub. I also wouldn't leave a little child behind if I have taken care of it for so many years. Cuck or not, if people can show mercy to random people through charity, then you can take care of one more kid. It's not the kid's fault.
Random charity does not mean being legally financially tied against your will to a person you were deceived into believing was your biological offspring. Don't even compare the two. They are nothing alike.
(grilledcheesaroo)
I can. He is a fucking cuck that willingly took unnecessary stress & partially ruined his own life over a whore's bastard daughter.
And you're no better, you fucking cuck. If you don't kick both the whore & her cheat trophy out; you are a fucking cuck. I have no respect for either.
His older parents tried speaking sense into this father but they raised a soft little feminized wimp.
(41PercentIsNotEnough)
Lmao all the comments defending him, this sub is infested by normies, fakecels, and cucks
To each their own
[A peace sign in rainbow colors]
Every color has its place. An ethnic home for every race.
I am someone who is for the preservation of races just as I'm for the preservation of endangered species. I think the world is a much richer and more interesting place with the existing cultures in it, and I'm very much against the idea of these cultures being swallowed up by a homogeneous international super-culture for the sake of diversity or whatever. I am, however, mixed race. I am an example of why mixed race marriage is often a big mistake: I have never been completely at home with either side of my heritage and my family on both sides will never completely accept me as one of their own. This caused a lot of angst in my younger years, and for this reason I've decided not to reproduce, but to adopt some day if I ever want kids.
I find it so upsetting when I see some Asian girl who has decided that Asian men are below her walking hand in hand with a white guy with an Asian fetish. And this is increasingly common. Most Asian women who marry white men are rejecting their own culture because of internalised self-hatred and other mental health issues. I am also convinced that most of the white men who get with Asian women have mental health issues: in the case of my father, he turned out to be a paedophile. He molested me and my sister. He didn't have an Asian fetish per-say, but went to a third world country to find a young Asian girl (my unfortunate mother) because he couldn't get away with it legally in his home country. I wish there was some way I could warn young Asian women of the sort of white men who go for Asians, and at the same time I wish I could warn white parents about the implications of allowing their offspring to produce mixed children. Life was not easy for my siblings and I. We had no cultural identity and we were viewed by others as inferiors because of our mixed heritage.
People say that mixed kids are cute, but that's simply not true most of the time. When I look in the mirror I see what looks like a very awkward Asian face, like someone took a picture of an Asian and then took a picture of a white person and slapped different bits of these pictures together. My round eyes don't match my Asian nose. My teeth and my jaw seem to have come from two different people. Freckles on Asians are not attractive!
As much as the world would like us to believe that everyone is better off rejecting their cultural identities in favour of a multicultural one, I know that that only results in living like a tree without roots.
Other than committing myself to not breeding, what are some things I can do to help prevent white genocide (and East Asian genocide, for that matter)?
It's pretty obvious that human biodiversity and race realism are just politically correct euphemisms for scientific racism. The only reason that we use those terms is to put people at ease because modern sensibilities have been so skewed towards automatically and violently rejecting White bigotry. But the idea that scientific racism has been thoroughly debunked is a talking point that anti-racist liberals like to spout in order to discredit our ideas. And just because certain aspects of 19th century and early 20th century scientific racism were nonsense, that doesn't mean that everything that they espoused was nonsense or that more recent scientific racism is just a rehash of discredited ideas.
Reality also isn't a popularity contest. I could be the only person in the entire world that believes that not all racial groups are equally intelligent and civilized, but that wouldn't mean that I'm wrong. Yes, we know that the scientific and academic community completely despises us, but that isn't because our ideas are BS. Our views simply aren't politically correct.
Eugenics is a perfect example of a completely valid scientific idea falling out of fashion simply because it offends modern liberal sensibilities. Not only is it possible to improve the human gene pool through genetic screening, embryo selection, cloning, genetic engineering, selective breeding, polygamy, artificial insemination, et cetera, but it's absolutely vital to the long-term health of our species and our environment.
It's widely known in environmentalist circles that human overpopulation is the root cause of most environmental issues. Everything from climate change to overfishing is mostly caused by too many people living on this planet. So, if the human population needs to be dramatically reduced in order to fix this problem (which most scientists and environmentalists are hesitant to publicly acknowledge because they don't want to be accused of being evil Nazis), then eugenics is obviously the most logical solution to this problem, because if you have to dramatically reduce the human population then obviously it just makes sense to select for the best and the brightest.
Who wouldn't want to live in an environmentally sustainable society that had a guaranteed income, an army of AI robots (but not so smart that they pose a threat to us) to take care of the dirty work, and a beautiful and healthy citizenry comprised of Mensa members? We'll soon have the scientific know-how to make that neo-Nazi utopia a reality, but what we lack is the political will to implement it (thanks to the progressive Left). The Alt-Right exists to solve this problem.
Dysgenics is also a massive problem that's being completely ignored because the solutions lead you down a path towards the Fourth Reich.
Eugenics has to be one of the most important and powerful ideas in all of human history, but it's being suppressed simply because it reeks of Nazism. So, while the progressive Left just loves to claim that the conservative religious Right is getting in the way of scientific and human progress, when it comes to eugenics it's the liberal Left that's preventing our species from making the next major leap forward.
You can tell that the scientific community is completely terrified of new developments in genetic research bolstering our racist weltanschauung. Once we get a better idea of which genes are responsible for human behavior, we'll finally be able to solidly prove that some racial groups are inherently superior to other racial groups. You can also tell that the scientific community is extremely nervous about discovering that the genes that are responsible for intelligence won't be evenly distributed throughout the various "population groups" (the politically correct term for race). Acknowledging that racial and class differences have a genetic basis will completely undermine the central pillar of modern progressive ideology.
Scientists like James Watson and Hans Eysenck weren't quacks. They were treated like heretics for daring to dissent from modern progressive orthodoxy.
If you want to learn more about modern scientific racism, then you should check out people like Stephen Hsu [1][2][3]. He's allowed to get away with espousing racist, Nazi-ish ideas because he isn't White, and because he's very careful to moderate his views by paying lip service to progressive egalitarian ideology.
However, if the goal is to maximize the well being of the entirety of humanity and global stability, then nationalism from all peoples around the world right now does more net good than net harm, at least in the current global political climate. I don't think it's a secret that many of the most powerful people in the world, especially in the West, are advocates of large scale globalism, not just economically but also demographically. For instance, in one of her leaked speeches to foreign banks, Hillary Clinton stated "My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders...". There are hundreds of thousands of Africans in China, many are there illegally. Even Japan is slowly but surely loosening its once highly-restrictive immigration policies. Though the numbers aren't too large, and the immigrants are probably primarily from at least partially culturally-compatible neighboring Asian countries, it is still a slippery slope that could lead to even more dubious implications for their future. Furthermore, two of Japan's top beauty pageant titleholders for the past two years were biracial, Ariana Miyamoto and Priyanka Yoshikawa, both with Japanese mothers. I have nothing against these two ladies, who are both very attractive, but I just don't think someone who's not fully Japanese should represent a nation that's 98% homogeneous. Yes they're only two individuals, but they are two individuals with disproportionate influence on contemporary Japanese culture, and the pageant events themselves serve as an useful bellwether, indicating the shifting cultural attitudes of their society. Needless to say, all analogous phenomena are magnified by orders of magnitude in the West. Not that I pity them, but we need to realize, the same set of causes, whatever they may be, are likely behind the cultural and demographic degradation of every nation of humanity. If globalism and multiculturalism are continually being promoted and allowed to grow the way they are right now without any counterbalancing, then white European cultures won't be the only ones in danger, East Asian ones will undoubtedly follow in due time, and there will be nothing left to save or run back to. Among other positives, one that jumps to mind if Western societies moved back more towards the center politically, let alone right-wing, would be that the white men who go to East Asia and SE Asia to look for more "traditional" wives would likely drop significantly.
[Question asked is "Can I own slaves in Anarcho-Capitalism?"]
"If the "slave" decides to walk away, you think you have a "right" to use force to keep him?"
They sold away their right (In the legal sense of the term) to exit, thus giving the owner cause for damages if they violate that agreement.
"you think you have a "right" to use force to keep him?"
The whole point of private property is that you can use force to defend your ownership of it
We need an objective human rating system
The world needs an objective human rating system. This way government controlled and raised brides would be fair for everyone. A 3/10 male would be married off to a 3/10 female by the government at the age of 15. Female children should be taken away at their birth and should be raised to be good wives. There are many ratios and personality tests to rate a person objectively. The golden ratio for example. All humans should be tested and married at the age of 15. The current way people rate each other is often subjective a 5/10 for me maybe a 7/10 for somebody else. This needs to be fixed and we need a definitive rating and a definitive way to rate people. This way all suffering would be prevented. Evil and Degenerate people by nature should be killed. This way a fair and morally superior world would be created. Hitler had 60% of it right. His own views of people wrong. His Ideas deep down were right. Jews should be married off to jews. Genetic scum that wants to live should be married off to genetic scum. Genetic scum has a right to live if they want too. Evil and degenerate people don’t and should be eradicated. People that are below a 4/10 should be sterilized.
Incel organ donors should be allowed to sleep with recently deceased females
Sex is a female resource. Organs are a human resource. I came up with a system that would exchange these resources in a way everybody would benefit. The pussy of females can be used even 2 days after their death. Their sexual resources get wasted with the current system and people often die because there aren't enough organ donors. Incels that are organ donors should be allowed to have sex with recently deceased females. This way female sexual resources would not be wasted even in death. Incels would be encouraged to donate organs and more potential lives would be saved. The incel suffering would be reduced. Nobody would be harmed. The number of organ donors would increase. Nothing would get wasted. It would be like biological and sexual recycling. Female sexual resources would not get wasted and they would be used to help incels. If this proposal came true it would be killing two birds with one stone.
How is it pathetic? Why should I talk to her unless she is willing to have sex with me? What would the point of this interaction be? It was random and caught me off gaurd, if I had planned talking to her and somehow getting in her pants, then I would have gone for it.
yes. Most white Americans wants Donald trump, all nonwhite votes are illegitimate. Without the minority vote Trump would win in with a landslide.
[In the comments regarding the Trailer for "Loving", based on the 1967 Supreme Court case]
[are we taking your women?]
You wish. You see, aside from these completely fictional stories in movies and TV, black women feel no attraction towards white men. I mean, why would them? Not only your ancestors made life hell for their ancestors, black men are stronger, kinder, better in bed and just better than white men in general.
Check statistics if you don't believe me: WMBF is some of the lowest percentage of married couples in the US. Meanwhile BMWF is much higher even thought is supposed to be much more taboo and suffers more discrimination.
[Because you're a racist.]
If it was even possible to be racist against white people, yeah, I guess I would be considered racist. But since it's not, then I'm at most, prejudiced. And I won't apologize for that.
[...]
[Are white guys supposed to only date white ladies or something? Fuck you, I'll like who I like.]
In an ideal world white guys shouldn't date anyone. But since they want to get their dick wet so much, yeah, stick with your own race. But please don't breed.
[As a white guy, I can tell you that just isn't true.]
lol, keep telling yourself that.
[You're robbing black women of their agency by assuming they can't genuinely be into white guys. Way to do a misogynoir, asshole.]
No, I'm not. But there's so much white men in media and in positions of power that you can never be sure if a black woman genuinely likes white men, or if she was just conditioned to believe that. If anything media and society are the ones stealing their agency.
[Classists say the darndest things!]
I disagree. If your family has been in America for over 3 generations and you're not a millionaire yet you should leave. America is the country of prosperity and entrepreneurship, if you are not contributing to the culture, you're just being a worthless leech that should leave. White people whose families have been here for generations have 0 excuse to be poor or struggling.
Aspects of Sharia Law that Will Improve Society
I am not a muslim or starting a religious debate, but there are many aspects of sharia law that would be benefit society, incels especially, listed below. I will explain how each of these aid men's rights. Clitorectomies prevent the sluttiness of women, as we all know female pleasure comes from the clitoris, removing it with will reduce their sluttishness and ensure they become prim and proper housewives. Beating a woman maybe necessary at times, since unforgivable actions such as cucking or even just female bitchiness towards their husbands, can be prevented. Also women are like children and need strict discipline to be productive housewives. Preventing women from divorcing will prevent cucking and lead to women being good. A woman not gaining custody of children, means children will go to the man who can raise them better. Children raised in single family homes, led by mothers are most likely to be incel or criminals. There are plenty of false rape accusations going on today, rape is a weapon women use to subjugate men, by preventing women from testifying in court and requiring 4 male witnesses, women dare not lie about rape and this ensures the validity of the crime actually occuring. Also women being prevented from speaking to other men, greatly reduces the possibility of cucking. These aspects will greatly improve society, and men's rights.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (Muhammad's words, Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination.
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife; a woman needs her husband's consent to divorce . • A divorced wife loses custody of all children over 6 years of age or when they exceed it.
• Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
• A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
''Choosing a man instead of a woman when both have identical resumes is the textbook definition of discrimination, how does this don't prove that women are being discriminated?''
Because employers are aware of the fact that affirmative action policies exist. They aren't idiots. They know the industry.
They aren't discriminating against women, they're discriminating against people who receive affirmative action. The difference is that these people are women, as a result of the affirmative action policies currently in place.
Lolz. The in-group similarity in appearances can be fucking said of all races, otherwise they could not be morphologically identified as a... RACE. Black hair. Sure. Black eyes. Actually, they're all brown, but sure. Flat faced, flat nosed, short, and hairless. Perhaps those are the more typical Chinese phenotypes, but there is more than enough variability for this to an useless generalization. Case in point, personally I'm 6'2 and got plenty of body hair, tall nose bridge and high cheekbones, and my appearance really isn't uncommon at all in the Northern Han. Furthermore even if all Chinese girls indeed looked the way you erroneously claimed they did, I'd still choose one of them as the mother of my future children any goddamn day over other races. Just as mating with blacks is dysgenic for whites, mating with whites is dysgenic for east asians. I still fuck white girls though, just not in the business of creating mutts.
Lastly, assuming Europeans are indeed as superior as you claim, which is highly debatable in itself as I've argued. The fact that the vast majority of your kin don't even bat a single eyelid while they're being culturally and genetically replaced is itself a damning fatal weakness that automatically makes whites as a group inferior in the biological sense, whose sole purpose is the propagation of one's own genes and those that are closely related to oneself.
[/r/FULLCOMMUNISM discusses the ethics of putting children into gulags]
Alright, as a frequent lurker and occasional participant in /r/FULLCOMMUNISM, and a long time Communist. I don't like that you decided to make a mockery of us in this way. I consider it a direct attack against us, and to be frank, I resent it greatly.
The entire purpose of the subreddit is to allow for more light content and semi-hyperbolic statements without fear of Liberal, reactionary, of Fascist retaliation. You've trespassed into our community to try and mock us. In doing so, either intentionally or unintentionally, you have benefited our enemies. Nevertheless, I'll explain it to you the best I can. I always seek to educate whenever the opportunity arises. I'll make this as brief as possible.
Any atrocity you could accuse us of, our enemies have done it before, and almost always they've done it ten times worse. We are those who want to rectify it, permanently. The plain truth is that we can't do it through daisy chains and peaceful protests. The Liberals and the Bourgeoisie wouldn't advocate for peaceful protest if it ever brought quick, meaningful, and permanent change. They have used every means at their disposal to destroy us.
The only real way is through forceful and determined action. Putting people, and yes, children in gulags is one such action. It's like when you have an infection and you're prescribed antibiotics, you start to take them for a few days, then you start to feel better. So, you just stop, you figure since you can't feel the effects of the bacteria they must be gone and defeated. Yet, when you stop, the infection comes back and sometimes even worse than before. It's not pretty, it's not cuddly, but it's the surest way. You have to get rid of all the filth before you can call it clean.
It's a similar principle here, if you don't eliminate those who are affiliated with the Old Guard, they'll raise their children to rise against you, or they'll grow up and seek to destroy you. That's why we do what we have to do, for the success of our goal, and the ultimate benefit of humanity. That's why we fight, to end human suffering and end tyranny.
I'd advise you to reconsider, because make no mistake. We plan to win this conflict, so either join us, support us, or move out the way. This is a friendly warning.
[...]
I would ask the same question to all the people who've ruined lives trying to eliminate Communism and protect their own power. In the end, our enemies are willing to be just as brutal, if not more so than we are.
In the end, we are for the benefit of all, they only want to benefit their own kin, their own people. They protect their own, it's the only real loyalty they have. They are the ones who will drive humanity to ruin and destroy the Earth's environment.
Race is a very significant, if not the single most important factor when defining foreignness for most people in the world.
''And actually, a lot of the models who look non-white are often not foreigners at all! The west has been a multi-racial society for a looooong time, and it is just as likely that the white model is from Ukraine while the Asian model is from San Francisco.''
If you actually live according to this ideal, then all the power to you. But like it or not, that is not how most people, including myself, operate. So pardon me for not jumping on the politically-correct post-racial bandwagon. Immigrants in the will ALWAYS remain outsiders to some degree, no matter how small, in relation to the mainstream culture that was established by the dominant ethnic group, which was Whites for the West.
And here's the key point: that is ABSOLUTELY fine by me. It is simply a part of human nature to be tribal; the liberal mentality of thinking that we're somehow above the laws of nature is simply pure hubris. So just as I don't expect my racial/ethnic group to be fairly represented in the west (though some of us still rightfully try their damn hardest for such), whites shouldn't be surprised to find their status waning in an increasingly racially-aware China.
This is also a reflection of men who engage in interracial relationships.
Men who engage in interracial relationships have already rejected one aspect of conservative values (racial loyalty), so they probably reject other conservative values such as treating women with respect and not being promiscuous.
I understand that this is politically incorrect, but it would be wrong to ignore the big differences between those who race mix and those who don't.
[Commenting on the thread "A half-million Brazilians, in southern brazil the whitest area of Brazil, want to break away and form a new country. Is this the future of the USA?"]
If White people tried to do the same thing in America, the U.S. government would do everything possible to stop them. First they'd wage the largest psyops campaign in American history, and then they'd eventually resort to sending in the military if they had to. They think that the debate over the legality of secession was permanently solved after the North won the Civil War.
And despite the egalitarian and anti-White rhetoric from the Left, deep down they know that America's success and prosperity is mostly based on White Americans. They know that if White Americans decided to scramble for the nearest lifeboats and row away from a sinking majority-minority America, then that would cause America to eventually become a borderline 3rd world cesspit like Brazil.
Modern White people essentially serve as human piggy banks and as tax slaves in racially diverse societies - from South Africa to the USA, and everywhere in-between. That's why they're not going to let us escape without a fight because we're the primary source of their livelihoods.
One of my biggest fears is that the (((globalist elites))) that are in control of the American Left will exploit the forbidden knowledge of scientific racism and replace us with high-IQ non-Whites (and it seems like they already exploited this forbidden knowledge when they realized that they could get competent, high-IQ cheap labor from China and Taiwan). Even though they pretend that all racial groups are inherently equal, and even though they constantly attack we in the Alt-Right for daring to bring up racial IQ differences, deep down they know that the scientific data and the truth is on our side. We saw hints of this with the recently leaked emails from (((John Podesta))).
And even though Robert Putnam's work suggests that an ideal society would be comprised of an ethnically homogeneous high-IQ population, replacing White Americans with high-IQ non-Whites would allow them to still maintain a relatively successful society. However, it seems like the powers that be in America aren't that clever, or perhaps they're so obsessed with destroying the White majority in this country that they simply don't care if they have to turn American into Brazil in order to accomplish that goal.
There's also the possibility that redpilled Jews like Podesta don't have complete control over our immigration system but are instead just trying to influence it as much as possible. They probably want to flood America with high-IQ non-Whites (and ideally for Jews, Muslims would be mostly excluded), but the egalitarian true believers that the Jews helped to mold still have significant sway when it comes to deciding who gets to come into our country. And these goyim useful idiots pretend that they don't see a difference between Japanese engineers, Amerind/Mestizo illegal immigrants, and Sunni Afghans.
If the demographics of the immigrants that are flooding into America (over 2 million annually) switch from being mostly "Hispanic" to mostly Asian, that will be a sign that the scientific racism championed by the Alt-Right is starting to steer our immigration policies. And we're already starting to see signs of that since I've read several news articles about Asians being projected to eventually overtake Hispanics when it comes to immigration into America.
Likewise, if we see a major push towards greatly increasing the number of H1-B visas and a crackdown on illegal immigration, that will be another significant hint that our ideas about racial IQ differences are starting to influence the powers that be. And that will also be a major hint that Jews are taking the White Nationalism out of scientific racism and using it to advance their interests.
But anywho, to finally get back to the main topic of this article; secessionist movements may very well be the most practical step for our race to take next. I know that people within our movement don't want to cede territory, but hopefully the act of secession itself will provide the ecosystem to create a new generation of more militant White Nationalists who will then be able to reclaim our lands. Right now most White people simply don't have the necessary zeal needed to support mass deportations.
Regressive attitudes towards women - well what can I say I believe in more traditional gender roles, I think men and women are different, each better at different things. Men are not better than women, just different, and when feminists try to usurp masculine roles, it just doesn't work. There are always exceptions of course.
I'm 100% supportive of you as a matter of strategy to put up optics so that we don't alienate women but I've also given many examples of modern women who haven't done a good job of defending their countries interests' when put into high-powered political positions (if you read my other post), both on the West and the East.
I also believe there's a difference between optics and actually letting the likes of Dilma Rousseff, Tsai Ing Wen, Tomomi Inada, Park Geun Hye run their countries - they objectively have not done a good job. And again, I don't want to get into nature vs nurture, just a statistical argument.
you talking about that pretty little blonde thing as a part of the russian propaganda stint? yah sure , she looks tough on that little crimea admin. but probably moans like a sluuut when getting screwed by putin's underlings. crimea is not even a full fledged pivotal russian city like stalingrad/st petersburg . plus i was referring to NATIONAL cabinets. DEFENSE # 1 . who da fukkkk is she? can blondie run the WAR DEPARTMENT?
If you read my post you'd see that I commended him for exactly that. Anyways, yes it fucking DOES make him less Canadian, not everyone buys into the "magic soil" argument, British and French men and women built this country. I could never move to China and become "Chinese" so why can he move here and become "Canadian"? I bet you think a Somali can move to France and become French or Britain and become British. You know why your line of thinking is dying? Because it offers nothing in return for the displacement, disenfranchisement, and alienation of globalization pushed by elites who want to strip people of their national, racial, religious, etc. , identities (ESPECIALLY if you're a (fucking white) male), except for the "in-group feels" of being yet another useless, parroting beta liberal hipster trash waste. But you get to have the "high class morals and values", and be on the "right side of history". No thanks.
Sleep paralysis is real, but so are paranormal encounters.
There are easy ways to tell them apart that shouldn't be disregarded.
Most sleep paralysis episodes disappear after a few seconds, and after you are fully awake.
In rare cases they will last several minutes, but during most of these rare cases it is more often than not that the victim of sleep paralysis cannot actually move.
The actual definition of sleep paralysis:
"A temporary inability to move or speak while falling asleep or upon waking."
Factors that contribute to an encounter not being sleep paralysis:
Being fully conscious and physically able during an encounter significantly reduces its viability of being sleep paralysis.
Most genuine sleep paralysis is extremely temporary, because it is affected by your bodies ability to fully leave REM sleep. Sleep paralysis occurs when the body enters REM sleep and then it wakes up and has a hard time transitioning out of REM sleep. Which means most true sleep paralysis episodes, a person will not be fully awake.
REM sleep is the state where the body reaches deep sleep and is essentially lucid dreaming. Sleep paralysis is like dreaming with your eyes open. Once the body is fully awake and conscious, enough to move, sleep paralysis can pretty much be ruled out as most sleep paralysis type apparitions will disappear after a few seconds if you're fully awake.
A good way to fully wake yourself during an episode, is to stare at the wall, away from what you might have seen, blink, move your head a bit, and think to yourself am I fully awake? What is it I'm seeing etc. If you're fully awake enough to turn around, and calculate your thoughts, any sleep paralysis apparition will likely be gone. If it is not gone. If you see the shadow of such figure on your wall, or you hear it interact with items in your room it is likely not sleep paralysis.
Two other major factors that rule out sleep paralysis.
Multiple witnesses.
Two people sleeping next to each other will not experience sleep paralysis at the same time, if two people wake up and see something abnormal, they both see it, it's probably there.
Pets are another factor that is able to rule out sleep paralysis.
How pets react is a huge one, they will not see your sleep paralysis based apparitions, however they will sense a paranormal presence, even before you. Dogs will likely bark like mad in fear, and some dogs will even piss themselves. As their sense of smell is so strong that they know when something they're seeing is not human or a common animal, and it will scare them probably even more than it scares you.
If this happens, if pets react, if someone next to you sees the same abnormal presence, there is a good chance it is not sleep paralysis.
A better alternative would be to use containment camps for the (((enemy))) until we figure out a permanent solution.
Cheating whores should be humiliated in front of the whole planet. IMO adultery should be illegal, and the consequences should be even worse for females. If more conservative incels and normies are against methods like torture, rape, execution, prison (15 years), solitary confinement (7 years) and staggering financial punishment (20K-60K), then I have a new way of punishment that does not require prison, nor money nor physical harm.
Women that cheat should be taken by the police and forced to take off their clothes. The policemen now should proceed to take photos and videos of them in order to post them on social media with hashtags like # Cheating Whore and # I Broke My Family. That way, those females would feel a fraction of the humiliation felt by her husband/BF when she cheated.
BrokenIndigoCrayons recently made a thread entitled "95% of female newborns should be blinded by doctors" and I have to confess that I agree with him.
Usually that's the point where normies show up to "debate" us. They want to refute our "arguments" and react surprised when we accuse them of attacking us, "I'm not attacking or belittling you, we're just having a discussion".
But there is no debate to be had:
* I don't want to be laughed at.
* I don't want to be looked at with disgust.
* I don't want to be compared to Chad.
* I don't want to be afraid to go out in public.
* I don't want women to see me.
All of that (and some more) can be summed up in the sentence "Women should be blinded at birth".
These feelings are real. They are not up for discussion. You don't get to tell me what my lived experience is. You don't get to tell me how I am allowed to feel.
Arguing that me not wanting women to see me is not real, that me not wanting women to see me is not true, that me not wanting women to see me makes me a horrible person is not ok. There is no "just having a discussion", you are attacking and belittling me at every step of your stupid "arguments".
Are normies really so delusional that they cannot see how they are reinterpreting an expression of vulnerability and emotion as some kind of proposal for political action that must be debated and stopped? Don't they recognize that every step of these strawman discussions is about denying our incel experience?
Most of the "discussion" on this subreddit involves one person laying out their hurt and feelings while another person does his or her best to invalidate them one by one in the spirit of what he or she either believes or at least pretends to be believe to be a reasoned discussion. That's not how successful communication works.
This is a public service announcement after someone today tried to make me feel guilty for laughing about Hillary Clinton's health issues. Is it poor taste to relish the thought that Hillary Clinton has a debilitating medical condition? No. Always remember this about Hillary Clinton:
1) She thinks you are deplorable and unsalvageable anti-American garbage that would love to silence you in any way possible.
2) She wants to flood the country with people that hate your guts and want you to pay for the honor of it all.
3) She advocates for every anti-white, anti-male, and especially every anti-white male policy she can.
4) She destabilized the Middle East resulting in pointless American deaths and flooding Europe with "refugees" that kill, rape, rob, bomb, run over, and destroy European culture and heritage.
5) She leads groups of SJWs to harass and destroy careers of honest people with legitimate concerns about the country.
6) She advocates for the petty grievances of legitimately shot criminal black elements while ignoring rampant black on white violence that happens every day.
7) She brings forward any and all ideas that weaken traditional families and culture that built America into a once great nation.
8) She is a corrupt thief that used her power and influence for pay for play schemes that enriched her at the expense of ordinary American citizens at every turn.
9) She represents the globalist snake that is swallowing the West whole.
Do not feel pity for this woman and, more importantly, don't let anyone make you feel pity for her. She hates your guts and will have no sympathy for anyone that opposes her.
I don't give a s**t about her and it does no good to pretend to. Remember who she is and what she represents. Put the pressure on and keep dropping negative news about Hillary wherever possible. People are affected by it. It's working and in fact it may be making Hillary that much worse by getting into her and her staff's heads as well.
So I'm a racist for believing whites are technically the superior race? They were the creators of modern civilization, and everything from the plane to the phone to the printing press. It's absurd you people believe that is racist! It's a historical fact that they have always been advanced and ahead of others with the possible exception of Asians. When we compare IQ scores, European descendants always score higher than that of African and other minority groups. You children act like it's some unbelievable idea that whites could be ahead of the evolutionary race.
The funny part? I'm not even white. I'm a Hispanic who believes this! A former Ben Carson supporter. Grow up.
For sure. Basket of Deplorables was a death blow. From now on, Trump controls the narrative. He'll use this during the debate and say "Hillary thinks Americans are bigots." And how do you counter this? You can't call Trump a bigot when YOU called voters bigots. You can no longer attack Trump or the alt right names because he'll turn it on you. Her only method of attack is to insult Trump, so that is now forever gone. It will be used against her.
Her campaign went from struggle to death spiral. How can she frame it. Apologize, and she looks bad. Double down, and you look worse. Winning elections is about winning independents, so how are they going to vote for you when your strategy is to say "vote for me or your a bigot." The normal response is to spite you.
Do you honestly think the rape of some slut passed out drunk behind a dumpster is as bad as the rape of an innocent virgin who was staying pure for her husband? If you've had like 20 dicks in you does it really matter if a few were non-consensual at that point?
(Yesterday Greta Van Susteren asked people on Twitter if she should make a segment on Hillary's health. Today she abruptly left FOX after 14 years. What the fuck?)
Because the murdochs are radical leftist and no real conservative would work for them. Today is the day fox became the new CNN
putting 'biotruths' in quotes does not invalidate the validity of the arguments invoked. and the word you're looking for is biology, which men and women differ on at a fundamental level, what a shocker right?
and by posing that question, you're essentially asking, "why is there a double standard?" which is an age old and played out question that has been repeatedly answered by redpillers, which I'd unabashedly identify as, and bluepillers, of which presumably you're one.
and the answer to that is it's not really a double standard, because for a man to become a "slut", he'd need to be at or at least near the apex of male attractiveness, which is a function of his physical fitness, resources, intelligence, social skills and perhaps some other relevant factors. whereas for a woman to be a slut, all she has to do is to say "yes" when propositioned, and open her legs. in other words, the amount of effort required are vastly different for the two sexes.
We couldn't get rid of sports ball fast enough as far as I'm concerned. It's a safe tribalist outlet where Americans with bellies eat and drink while passively watching negroes play ball.
How about instead of watching the game, you get together with your brothers and nephews and play a game of football yourself? Be on your own team for once. The women can watch and make sandwiches.
I don't know why there are Asians in Europe to begin with, Europe is a place for whites anyways just as Asia is a place for Asians.
I believe that either inceldom is a worse fate than being raped, or they are two incomparable sufferings.
First, let's compare the two. Inceldom is the result of being a complete societal reject. It means everyone in the world either hates you, finds you sexually repulsive, or has no interest in you. Being an incel requires daily reflection on this fact because man is simply not meant to live this way. It is unlikely not experienced in this, women especially, can fathom this unique and painful hell. Being alone to the extent we are could be compared to actual torture inflicted upon the worst criminals in the world. Because of this Incels regularly cycle between the emotions of violent hate, severe depression, and abject fear. I can tell you there hasn't been a moment in my life for the past 5 years where I have felt a single positive emotion.
On the opposite side, unless you're a Josef Fritzl kid or a complete whore (will expand on this later), rape is a singular ordeal. I have no doubt that it's painful and traumatic, but its victims are able to wake up and know that their suffering is over and they just have to deal with the mental fallout. As an Incel, every day I wake up, I have to prepare myself that all I will experience is mental anguish and suffering and there is nothing I can do to stop this. Victims of rape are able to go on to live happy lives with partners after their ordeal. They are able to go out with friends and have fun. They are able to go to events, concerts etc. All of these little life experiences they have are denied to Incels. Rape victims at least know that they are desirable to society by something; their body. Incels feel completely useless to everyone on earth, no one cares about them for anything.
Secondly, Rape is far, far easier to prevent than Inceldom is. All you have to do to be an Incel is be born as a male without the traits to succeed socially in whatever arbitrary society you were born in. I was fated into Inceldom simply due to my genetics and never had any hope to escape it. Men may enter inceldom purely due to a single bad life choice, such as going to a private high school, not hitting on a certain goal, having an introverted youth etc.
On the contrary I would assume that around 90% of rape victims have brought upon themselves. Obviously children and those who were simply grabbed in alleyways have my pity, but these are a rarity of cases. Most rapes occur from the following two things: 1. Being a terrible judge of character and 2. Partaking in seriously dangerous behavior.
On the first type of rape, we live in a world where most of the rapes occur by someone a woman knows. This is because in sexually liberal societies such as ours women will always want to hang out with the "Bad boys" and who they view as dominant and cool but are in reality just lecherous creeps (moreso than any Incel could ever be.) Well, if they hang around these people and get raped then you have no pity in my book because there are plenty of decent men being ignored by society they could have chosen to hang with. If you sleep with dogs don't be surprised if you wake up with fleas.
On the second type of rape, I would argue that most of these are preventable because they are the result of another bad decision. For example, going out drunk to places where there will be many male strangers is obviously very dangerous behavior but feminists have taught society that it is "slut-shaming" to state this. This is the main reason why I think the whole "rape crisis" bullshit is overblown. If women truly feared and were broken by rape they wouldn't be willing to go out every Saturday night and end up in the beds of strangers. They would be too afraid to even engage in this behavior. The fact that they're willing to even risk it proves either rape is overblown in the amount of trauma it inflicts upon someone, or women are truly too stupid to see that B comes after A. Either way if there were a single thing I had to give up in life, even if it profoundly impacted the way in which my life is set up, I would be willing to do so in a heartbeat. That's how serious inceldom is to me. I would be willing to give up the internet, drugs, any type of my favorite food, if it meant a chance of finding love, intimacy and acceptance.
Finally, there are many resources available to women who have been raped. Rape crisis centers, tumblr blogs, online help sites, therapists etc. There are buildings in this world funded by taxpayer dollars for the sole sake of rape. What do Incels have to deal with their own issues? Nothing. Just a couple of small internet refuges scattered across the web, many of which have become invaded by the same normies that we have been rejected by. We have been systemically denied a public voice due to the fact we are social rejects, and every time we try to appeal for sympathy we are shut down by hateful demagogues who hurl insults like "Entitled", "Manchild" and "Loser" at us. Any small dose of sympathy we get from people outside our own circle is merely virtue signaling, these people just don't care about us at all and if they do all they feel is hatred.
Also, seeing as though how the main issue to deal with rapes is just the mental fallout, meaning many traditional methods of mental healthcare are effective in treating it such as therapy and psychiatry. Getting through these issues with a therapist is easy and the fact that you have your voice not denied, but elevated by society, makes coming back from being a rape victim a much more seamless process. Fixing Inceldom through therapy and psychiatry is a ludicrous goal, to the extent that we ban anyone who suggests this. Therapy does not help incels because mental health professionals are unable to fix the root causes of our situation, being societal rejects with wasted youths. They cannot change reality. They can only make us cope with what is a lifetime prison sentence, which is bullshit.
This post is getting long now but I hope you read it all. It is important for this topic to come up because it proves how pathetically easy a woman's life is, and how utterly incapable they are of fathoming our situation. Rape, the "worst thing that can happen to a woman" is a situation that is completely benign comparable to the horrors, the pure unending agony of Inceldom. We are broken souls, rejected at every level, and destined to die alone without a single soul to share our lives with. Don't downplay how we feel, because I guarantee you that you can't grasp with what this life feels like unless you've experienced it directly.
That said I welcome all criticism and debate. I am a man, meaning that there are some realities of rape that I do not understand. Though from careful analysis it seems like inceldom is way worse than being raped.
Oh I believe you brother. My best friend is a full-blooded Filipino man who is an admirer of Adolf Hitler as well. He told me he wishes for Duterte to just "get it over with and declare martial law already". Back when Marcos declared martial law, the only people crying are the oligarchs and the spoiled city students of Metro Manila. The provinces benefited greatly. The people as a whole, will benefit from a president who is unafraid to make very difficult calls and do what needs to be done for his people, no matter what the cost.
Arguing with women is a losing proposition.
You're only going to make them hate Asian men more.
Our arguments could not be more logically sound.
But Asian women, like all women, have the ability to believe their own lies if it's beneficial to them.
It is advantageous for them to depress the value of Asian men. They can hold out for higher quality
Asian men when they have white men as leverage, or vice versa.
The best strategy for Asian men is to individually and collectively raise our sexual value with non Asian women.
Simultaneously, we should demand 100% race loyalty history for marrying Asian women.
If every Asian male in America does those 2 things, our situation will improve without a single verbal argument being made.
That would more closely resemble patriarchy, which actually does work to keep women in line. Look at Muslims.
We are the least patriarchal because our women have the most freedom.
Right now they have the freedom to fuck the whole football team and still marry a clueless
Doctor/engineer/Harvard Asian male provider when they're used up.
Whites, blacks, Hispanics would never marry a girl of their race who had exclusively fucked 40 Asian guys first.
Most economists don't know how to run a 1rst world country and are proponents of globalist Jew economics. Jews don't know how to run a successful society because they never built a successful society in their history (in fact they didn't build much of anything anywhere, there is no ancient Jewish architecture in Israel because Jews never built anything). Israel today would be bankrupt and disappear without all the aid from the West. If they can't run a successful country on their own, why should we take any of their advice on how to run one here?.. especially when Europeans built nearly all the successful societies. Basically you Jews are not as smart as you think you are which is why you are totally dependent on whites. Nation building is a European thing, and before you point out rich Gulf states, they didn't have any money until Europeans came and built the oil wells that they couldn't figure out on their own. Japan and China have been successful since they opened up to the West and now they are just eating our lunch due to our incompetent and easily taken advantage of leaders.
As long as they're not killing minorities through ethnic cleansing I'm fine with it. And I don't buy the narrative about what's happening in the Black communities. Do cops overreact in some cases? Sure, but it's not like their prejudices don't come from a reasonable fear.
You know, I think most every other country would have a problem with minorities holding ultimate power over the majority. That's kind of what's happening with the way the Democratic Party formed, so it causes some problems. I feel like minorities are just guests to the host culture. It's alright as long as there's no legal discrimination. Japan for example had a White guy in the Diet for about a decade, but do you think Japanese would be okay if the population suddenly became 60% White and 40% Japanese? If Whites took majority roles in the government, a White guy became prime minister, then majority White people started making decisions about the lives of ethnic Japanese? In their very own country? No, I don't think Japanese people would very much like that, so I can understand why White Americans don't like it either.
The CCP even expelled foreigners when Mao was in power.
Of course nationalism is tied to race. So is culture. If the tables were turned, I wouldn't want White people ruling over China. There's enough history of that already. So I don't get why it's somehow better for minorities to control White countries. It's just not right to me, or ideologically consistent.
You're right, what's really important to women is how hot you are. If you're ugly or unsexy, they won't date you no matter what your personality is like. All they care about is whether or not you make their pussies red.
Well, I'd like to start by saying that I'm not only attracted to Asians. I'm attracted to whites and Asians, and a few latinos and blacks. If I had to choose my primary race that I'm attracted to, it's easily whites. I'd say at least 7/10 whites my age who are in good shape are attractive to me, while only 4/10 Asians my age who are in shape are attractive to me. Not only that, but I think of most Asians as kinda cute, but I think the hottest women, like the 10/10s, are usually white.
But physical stuff isn't the only reason I'd date someone. Overall, Asian women just are more pleasant to be around. Western women have been utterly corrupted by feminism, and sexual liberalization. The whole dating game in the West has become completely and utterly fucked. Modern white women drastically overvalue there SMV, and it leads to the top 60% of white women chasing the top 5% of guys. The guys at the top of the SMV pyramid (athletes, musicians, models, and what not) pump and dump all the white girls, while never committing to relationships with them.
This whole trend started when women entered the workforce. Before then, marriage was pretty much essential, because the women had to try to make her husband the best man possible so he could support a family. Now that doesn't happen, because women can have jobs and provide for themselves while getting pumped and dumped by jocks.
This was furthered by the welfare state, which enables single motherhood completely.
However, do to cultural work ethic and Asian femininity, I feel that a lot of Asian women have been immune to this trend. The Asians I have met practically worship at the feet of the average white guy.
So really I'm just being pragmatic about this. I'm not gonna deal with shit testing from white women if I can easily fuck Asians.
Good relationships occur when both partners have the same culture. The problem is that culture is very much tied to race. You should understand that - only White people could have created the West. Unless one of the partners is willing to submit culturally, you'd both be settling for a weak relationship.
I'm not against race-mixing 100%, but I'm very skeptical about it. After all, it was liberals who first pushed the issue, desegregation, etc. And as someone who is mixed race, I know the problems it causes.
Basically, I'm someone who likes Trump as much as I like the Chinese Communist Party. They're both nationalist, traditionalist, and forward looking. I don't know too much about Pinochet, but what I do know, I like.
A day ago, the shitty, jock-bully normies that DESPISE us executed their latest blow in the campaign of oppression and hatred they have been carrying out against we innocent, nonviolent INCEL men.
They thought they could take our sub. They thought they could silence me.
They were wrong.
Like the Phoenix, I have arisen from the ashes, born anew in the FLAMES of tyranny that were levelled against me. Like Jon Snow in the latest Game of Thrones season, I have come back stronger and more dedicated than ever to the cause of Incel Liberation.
A message to you neurotypicals, Chads, feminists, and other degenerate normie FILTH out there who have been crowing over your supposed victory: you have achieved NOTHING but to make me more powerful than ever before. I have learned from my mistake and will now make it IMPOSSIBLE for you to ban me by staying firmly within the letter of the law, but still spreading my views and INCEL philosophy through this site like the words of CHRIST HIMSELF.
You cannot stop me, you cannot kill me, I am everywhere and nowhere. The alpha-hater and the omega-male savior.
We INCELs will have our day. The crushing sexual poverty in which we exist cannot and will not stand. All your trolling, mocking us in other subs, brigading, and mashing the report button like the whiny little snitches you are, is absolutely MEANINGLESS.
As you can see, we are still here.
Does that anger you normies? Do you feel a twinge of fear when you realize that the INCEL movement hasn't been halted, but rather, is gaining steam and momentum with each and every injustice you heap upon us? By all means, get angrier. Continuing invading our space with your spam and downvotes and reports. It will do you no good.
THE INCEL REVOLUTION CANNOT BE STOPPED. Your tyranny WILL be overthrown and, as I have said from the beginning, there WILL come a reckoning.
That is all.
Link to "Chinese Democracy Isn't Inevitable" (The Atlantic) which can't be used:
"The top of the China model is characterized by political meritocracy—the idea that high-level officials should be selected and promoted on the basis of ability and virtue."
Republics essentially are like this. The Founding Fathers wanted only a small percentage of the overall population to hold power. These top level men were landowners.
So generally the goal is fewer people holding power and those people have higher virtue than average.
Degenerate Marxism / Feminism / Racism seeks the opposite goals by calling virtue privilege and then trying to destroy virtue.
I must preface this by admitting that I cannot claim to be a pure minded Neoreactionary. I don't know what I am exactly, but I know that Libertarianism and Neoreactionary ideas make more sense to me than anything else, that said...
The government structure I would prefer is a representative republic, with strict controls on who holds voting power and eligibility for office. I think the simplest, fairest, most transparent requirement for voting rights would be one of either:
a) current employment in the private sector
b) ownership of property which clearly generates employment in the private sector
Of course, this requires clear definitions of what constitutes "private sector" employment. In the U.S., the line between companies who live in the free market and those rent-seeking through legislation are blurred. The core idea is to preserve political and leadership power for those living in the marketplace, those adding to the wealth, and those carrying the burden of responsibility for the rest.
This state solution is surely not perfect, but it did accomplish a couple key things: it takes all voting power from the welfare dependent degenerates and government employees who are dependable at voting themselves raises and reckless authority. Admittedly, it also strips power from the people who were once responsible market participants but suffered injuries which placed them on disability or the retired private sector workers, but sacrifices must be made.
This system also served to remove a staggering number of female voters, while not discriminating against women specifically, but just those in rent-seeking jobs and life roles.
On a shallow level, this government would revert strongly back to being controlled by healthy, while, males. But, eliminating people based on just gender, race, and disability is unnecessary and I'd say even immoral. What IS NOT immoral is taking power from the irresponsible, degenerate, children who suck resources without adding anything.
Alan Moore is a seriously talented writer but also a mangina to the core. I love his work but I have 2 problems with him...
1. his feminist mangina injections that he tries to squeeze into all his books...why is he so thoroughly steeped in the tenets of cultural marxism for such a smart guy?
2. his obsession with kabbalah and the old hebrew magic system. Not only is his view of magic very one sided it is backwards. There is a reaons kabbalah is popular with the illumanati hollywood crowd...it is an old and ineffective form of magic that hasn't adapted to the new consciousness of man by evolving to a new form of magic that takes into account the changes in human consciousness that has happened for the last 2000 years
"But if Chinese people are so smart and capable, why is Chinese government so crappy?"
The evolutionary take on this is that, the Chinese (on average) lack the innate biological behavioral traits to get a successful, relatively non-corrupt democratic government to work. In fact this is true for most populations around the world, and only the western Europeans appear to possess the necessary traits in large enough fractions of their population, which was likely the result of unique cultural selective pressures faced throughout their history.
So what, multiculturalism isn't any better. In America and western Europe, they're fragmented culturally as more people from different cultures try to conglomerate in one area.
Where is the evidence that multiculturalism works? Look at Rome. During the decades before its collapse Barbarians immigrated into the empire attracted by its wealth and economy. The Romans had grown complacent and out of touch with the threat that the foreign Barbarian culture posed, they assumed they shared Roman values and were no major threat. Until one particularly harsh winter forced tens of thousands of Barbarians south into Roman territory. These Barbarians sacked Roman cities for years before reaching Rome itself. Their migration brought the entire empire to a collapse.
The longest lasting nations are nationalistic, they are skeptical of outsiders, and they rely on a unified culture to bring them through tough times. An example of these nations are Russia and China.
There is no evidence that mixing people with different moral and cultural beliefs, with different languages and customs, with different views on law and order is advantageous to a nation. It's like thinking you will do better on a group project if you work in a diverse group with a kid that doesn't speak English, another that thinks every aspect of the project needs to be justified by God, and a third that is adamant about limiting the report to a single page to save paper.
Personally I would rather violently remove any foreigners from Asia violently. White or black they should stay where they come from. How the current Filipino president Duterte deals with drug dealers by blood, is how you deal with sexpats or foreigners to get them out your country.
[I believe sexual agency means you are allowed to not sleep with whomever you want for whatever reason.]
Sexual agency means people are allowed to not sleep with people for bigoted reasons. It does not mean those reasons are not bigoted.
When people say they will not date members of (insert marginalized group), it is usually a red flag that the person is likely bigoted against that group.
[It does mean that you question someone's decision to not sleep with certain people, just because they belong to a marginalized group. I think doing so and preaching sexual agency at the same time hurts both causes. If someone is bigotted, then surely you will find another reason to call them out for. And if this is the only instance that could be interpreted as them being bigotted, and/or they have other reasons for it (e.g. if they were raped by a member of that marginalized group), then discounting them as "bigotted" seems like an awfully bad idea.]
That is like saying that believing in free speech and criticizing bigoted speech hurts both causes. That is bullshit.
Sexual preference is arbitrarily treated as sacred, and as such is often one of the only places where otherwise people who like to think of themselves as progressive are able to openly express bigotry. No one should have to wait until a less acceptable form of bigotry is expressed before they write off a toxic person for what they are.
And avoiding a marginalized group because one member committed a traumatizing crime is pretty much an embodiment of the definition of prejudice. If that is the case, it should be acknowledged as a problem and worked on.
