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Look on this work, ye Mighty, and despair!

nautical999 #fundie ministeringdeliverance.com

Leviathon is a spirit I have battled as well. It was a hard battle but was won. It was about four months or more ago. My wife and I were in McDonalds and were having a conversation with an angel and Leviathon had come up. I told the angel that i wanted to fight this demon and he said I could. On the way back to the hotel I asked the angel if he could bring the demon to a predestinated place and he said yes. I figured that since Leviathon was from the depths of the sea he would be used to the cold water so I filled the tub up with scalding hot water and blessed the water. The angels (there were two now) brought Leviathon bound to the tub and fought with me. We all pulled our swords from our hips and began running this demon through with all my strength and everything I had. I would say it took atleast half an hour or more. We were all spent but the battle was won.

Chinese government officials in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region #fundie #racist thechinastory.org

(Results of interviews with members of China’s Uygur minority who had managed to escape from internment camps on the reasons they had been given for their arrest)

Owning a tent
Owning extra food
Owning a compass
[…]
Abstaining from alcohol
Abstaining from cigarettes
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Wailing, publicly grieving, or otherwise acting sad when your parents die
Performing a traditional funeral
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Wearing a scarf in the presence of the Chinese flag
Wearing a hijab (if you are under 45)
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Arguing with an official
Sending a petition that complains about local officials
Not allowing officials to sleep in your bed, eat your food, and live in your house
[…]
Having a full beard
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Speaking your native language in school
Speaking your native language in government work groups
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Speaking with someone who has travelled abroad
Having travelled abroad yourself
Merely knowing someone who has travelled abroad
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Not attending mandatory propaganda classes
Not attending mandatory flag-raising ceremonies
Not attending public struggle sessions
Refusing to denounce your family members or yourself in these public struggle sessions
Trying to kill yourself when detained by the police
Trying to kill yourself when in the education camps
Inviting multiple families to your house without registering with the police department
Being related to anyone who has done any of the above

Readytodie85 #fundie reddit.com

All do respect why are atheist people in this forum God please place me next to them at judgment day lol so many perverted versions of christianity only one acceptable version you either believe in Jesus and live for him or perish in hell

Anonymous #fundie quora.com

Let me tell you my story. I used to be an hours praying, Bible disecting, days fasting Christian who used to go to church every day of the week that there was a service (which, at the time was 4 times a week, including rehersals). I could see the influence of the Devil in any source of media. And make a good argument by the bible. I was never irrational.

How I felt about dragons. There was a time when I did not like dragons. Because dragons associated to snakes associated to the Devil. I didn’t really mind snakes. At the time, I just thought they shouldn’t be kept as pets, but they are still God’s creation, and God used snakes. Like Moses’s staff, or the bronze snake in the desert. But dragons are not creation of God. What is the dragon?

To me, the dragon was the devil pretending to be God. Specially Chinese dragons. The snake was a clever creature in the garden of Eden, who gave Adam and Eve the knowledge of right and wrong (in other words, stole their innosence, corrupted their innocent minds). Asian dragons are wise, and they impart knowledge to mankind. So, these are not ordinary snakes God’s creation. These were the snakes representative of the Devil. That’s what dragons were to me.

To me, the Asian dragons were born as any other mythology. Distortion of the truth and some influence of the Devil. The dragon had been given aditional features to be more awesome (in the more traditional sense), and had been made big and celestial, and even been given power over nature. It had become a deity. The dragon was a god, like the Devil has always wanted to be.

So what about the other dragons? To me, they were still representatives of the Devil. Maybe not worshiped gods, or at least not directly, but devilish snakes stealing the love of the people. Dragons are cute and friendly? Demons are shapeshifting deceivers. They can be cute and friendly too. To me, dragons were teaching people to accept demons if they are cute and act friendly. Because they only pretend to be, but they really want to condemn your soul. Or at least, that was my perspective. And hey, according to Islam, there is a slight possibility that demons can genuinely turn good. Anyway:

I also did not like when I spent nine hours in fasting and prayer and reading the bible and singing christian songs in my room all by myself, and felt in communion with God, but went to my Christian uncle’s house to visit, and we would watch a movie, to which I would be tempted not just by myself, but by my family. And even if the movie was not about anything of the Devil, when we would finish watching the movie, that feeling of communion with God was gone.

Despite that, all my life I have been fascinated by lizards and dinosaurs. So of course, I was naturally fascinated by dragons. But the bible says “deny yourself, pick up your cross and follow me”. And that’s what I did. A few months after, I read Job. I have read like 66% of the bible. I had heard of the leviathan before, but most of the time, I forgot, and also, because I had only heard about it, I did not know what to think. Even after I read about it, I was not sure what to think. I was going back and forth between my bible and my nearly 10lb biblical dictionary. And I read the psalms. Specially psalm 104. After a while, it seemed more reasonable to me that leviathan is a real animal. And dragon is no more devil than it is wolf or snake. Dragons are no more devils than lions are gods. God is not literally a lion, and even if he were, that doesn’t make all lions gods. The Devil is not literally a dragon, and even if it were, the rest of dragons are not devils.

But most dragons are not like leviathan either. And those that are, often are compared to gods. Like Godzilla. Btw I also did not like Godzilla because people compared him to gods. And Godzilla is not a dragon, but one of the most similar things to leviathan.

So, dragons were still representative of the devil to me for a while. But later I started thinking about it. Were they really representative of the Devil? They were mostly just like normal animals. And then I stopped thinking of dragons as the Devil.

But I still had all the other issues with fantasy and dustraction and stuff. So yeah.

David J. Stewart #fundie #conspiracy #homophobia jesus-is-savior.com

In Bible prophecy Russia is mentioned, but not the United States. I am fully convinced that Revelation 18 is the United States, the wicked nation that goes up in flames in just ONE HOUR. I am convinced this refers to nuclear war, which is the only way a nation could be totally destroyed, sent back to the medieval period in ONE DAY! If The United States Goes To All Our Nuclear War With Russia, We Won't Win! Revelation 18:8 and 19, “Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her. ...And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.” America deserves God's fierce judgment!!!

Homosexuality is a vile sin in God's sight. Sexual immorality is epidemic across the United States! Adultery is commonplace. Fornication is everywhere! Pedophiles are everywhere! The pedophile problem is so bad in major cities across America, that city ordinances now forbid adults without a child from sitting within 150 feet of a playground. Can you imagine? The Roman Catholic Church is a haven for pedophiles, homosexuals and pederasts, but nobody is doing anything about it! What has our nation become?

Television is as filthy as ever, which woefully contributes to the problem. Hollywood is a cesspool of iniquity, which woefully contributes to the problem. But the root of the problem goes much deeper than just television and movies. The apostate condition of the churches is the major cause of our nation's deterioration. Where are the preaching preachers?

Rock music has changed our nation, incrementally, into a liberal-minded, indifferent, nation tolerant of sin! Booze, illegal drugs, drug trafficking, prostitution, assault, human trafficking, robbery, selfishness, covetousness, pride, boasters, disobedient to parents, and all manner of evil are happening everywhere in the United States! Apathy is commonplace. How did all this come about? In 1962 homosexuality was a punishable crime in all 50 states, but in 2015 it was legal in every state! How did our nation go to moral ruin in just 53 years? It was a consequence of social engineering by Luciferians behind the scenes, who promoted everything vile and unholy to influence the masses to live in sin without God.

That is why praise of Aleister Crowley and Satanism were a common theme among the pioneering Rock bands. who destroyed America. Led Zeppelin idolized Satanist Aleister Crowley, as did The Beatles and other popular bands. The band Rush commonly displays occult pentagrams in their music and album art work. New World Order symbols have always been featured throughout the entertainment industry, showing the Satanic subversion behind it all. Pink Floyd, Jefferson Starship, Blue Oyster Cult, Black Sabbath, Megadeth, Metallica, Iron Maiden, and thousands of other music groups are all saturated with Satanic and NWO symbols. This clearly evidences the Satanic plot to destroy the United States from within! If you doubt these things, you are woefully naive! Satan is the god of this evil world.

Here's a disturbing YouTube video about prophetic events in 2019. The world is quickly moving toward a Global Godless Totalitarian Communist Police State! We are increasingly hearing about a one world system (global DNA database, world court, global taxes, global military, cashless society, world church, et cetera). President Donald Trump - Mark of The Beast By 2020? Many Will Die! Calm Before The Storm! There are a lot of things in the works right now, gearing up for the Tribulation period. The return of the Lord Jesus Christ to catch up the saints (i.e., Rapture) has never been closer! We are beholding the last days! Even so, come, Lord Jesus!!!

Just as I made friends with a mean dog and turned him into my friend, the world is slowly being converted over to Satan! The Antichrist is called the “Man Of Sin” (2nd Thessalonians 2:3). Instead of barbequed skirt steak, the churches have been infiltrated and are being corrupted with New World Order Bible versions. Instead of barbequed skirt steak, our nation's homes are being infiltrated and corrupted by Satanic Hollywood, through various forms of media. It is not a coincidence that Harry Potter is a witch, who has been pushed upon impressionable children worldwide. Harry Potter is the Devil's ribeye steak being used to convert the children over to Satan! The world is deliberately being corrupted, defiled with all manner of evil, to prepare them to receive the coming Man Of Sin!

sv3rige #fundie youtube.com

You're mentally ill if you don't eat raw meat, OK. What excuse could you fucking possibly have for not eating your natural diet. If you see blood, liver and brain and don't find those foods appetizing then you're mentally ill. You have been indoctrinated. If you were brainwashed as a kid to eat other food then you're still mentally ill by definition.

What is actually available in nature? Not those cultivated man-made plants that you find in the shop. Fruit, for example, is mostly water with some sugar, almost no vitamins and a few minerals. Yet you see those shops everywhere that sell "vitamin bombs". What vitamins are those? Vitamin C? Where's everything else? Blood has every single vitamin. Fruit has fucking nothing. This is the retardation of today's society. The skin is toxic and so are the seeds. All of them have anti-nutrients. Absolutely fucking useless.

David J. Stewart #fundie jesus-is-savior.com

Something that most people don't know about Pastor Jack Hyles (1926-2001) is that he always steered young people to love, honor, respect, show gratitude, encourage, care for and be loyal to their parents. Most Bible colleges don't teach such practical things. There is nothing in this world any more important than honoring (valuing) one's parents. Even Jesus Himself, while dying on the cross and suffering in horrific pain, thought about His mother's welfare (John 19:27).

Honoring one's parents was a big deal to Dr. Hyles! Brother Hyles taught us (now that we've been to college) never to correct our parents if they speak poor English. Dr. Hyles taught us to love and appreciate our parents, and never to correct them on the Bible because we've been to Bible college. You don't go to college and then go back home and educate your parents. That's disrespectful. You love your parents and accept them as they are! If they ask questions, that's something different; but you never correct your parents when you think they're wrong. It's about respect. There should always be a general respect for one's parents (and all our elders for that matter). Youth today lack respect for the elderly. There was a time in America when young people always showed respect for their elders by addressing them as “yes Sir” and “no Sir” or “yes Mame” and “no Mame.”

You should value your parent's feelings. Teenagers today are brats who betray their parents, rob them, dishonor and hurt them. The daily news is flooded with stories nationwide of youth who dishonor their parents, dragging them into court, even killing them in anger. A 16-year-old teen in Miami, Florida, stabbed his own mother 14 times, killing her, and then he hid the body and threw a house-party!!!

This brat generation totally dishonors and disrespects parents. Teenagers can be very hard on their parents these days. The Word of God foretold in 2nd Timothy 3:1-2, “This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy...” The entire concept of a “Generation Gap” is disobedience to parents! Christian teens ought to recognize the teaching of a “Generation Gap” as being of the Devil. There is NO Generation Gap unless you are following the new homosexual generation, the new party-all-night-long generation, the abortion child-murdering generation, the Godless generation!!!

You honor your parents in many ways, primarily by the life that you live. You honor your parents by treating them the way you'd want your children to treat you, that is, making them feel needed and loved. Parents tend to feel unneeded when their children grow up and move away. Jesus taught that it's a sin to have the attitude that you're doing your parent(s) a favor by financially helping them...

Matthew 15:3-7, “But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. Ye hypocrites...”

Your parents raised your sorry butt. They fed you, housed you, cared for you, provided for you; how dare you make them feel like you're doing them a favor to talk to them on the phone, visit them or help them financially. You owe them, they don't owe you! You should always give to your parents without expecting anything in return, that's your mom and dad!!!

David #fundie premier.org.uk

Gayism is the promotion of gay politics and lifestyle, whether its at home or in the office.

No, there is no straightism, because there is no "straight". There is only a normal sexual default, whereas Gayism is the promotion of gay politics and lifestyle as popularly promoted on the internet as a social movement.

John Ziegler #fundie mediaite.com

Behind the Scenes, It’s Clear Chicago Media and Police Doubt Jussie Smollett’s Story

I can’t recall a large crime story where there was a bigger gap between what the police and media are saying publicly, and what they expressing behind the scenes, than the saga involving the recent alleged hate crime against actor Jussie Smollett. Similarly, there may not be a story where you can tell more by what has not happened, in comparison to what actually has occurred.

The current public stance of the Chicago police is that earlier this month, at 2 a.m. on a very cold Chicago night, Smollett was the victim of what appears to be a heinous hate crime where he was physically attacked by two men, and humiliated due to his race, homosexuality, and possibly his opposition to President Donald Trump. The Chicago media, in official reports, has largely treated that narrative as legitimate, while chronicling the complete lack of suspects and corroborating evidence as more of a frustration than any indication that something else might be going on here.

Behind the scenes, however, based on conversations I have had with multiple people covering the story, there is a radically different take on what really did happen to Smollett. In short, there is near unanimity among police sources that Smollett’s story is very likely not true. And that even the media outlets still regurgitating the current “party line” don’t really believe it.

In my experience, most people are very bad at reading the tea leaves in these types of situations, and it often leads to very inaccurate interpretations of what is really going on. This case has several important elements which, if you know what to look for, make evaluating the actions of the police and news media really rather easy.

The first thing you need to understand about this situation is that, because of Smollett’s persona and the nature of his allegation, no one in law enforcement or the news media wants any part of publicly questioning his story. Everyone knows that if they make any sort of negative implication against a black, gay, liberal, celebrity, victim of a horrible hate crime, that they will be roundly and severely attacked, regardless of whether they turn out to be correct.

As a conservative, I look at this as his Political Correctness Force Field. Smollett’s protection here is literally about as strong as it gets, especially in Chicago, a city that has a large black population and is extremely liberal.

So, in this hyper-sensitive media environment, any sort of deviation from the accepted storyline by the police or the news media, much like if your seven-year-old kid is showing subtle signs they no longer believe in Santa Claus, must be given exponentially greater significance than it normally would. Here, both the police and news media in Chicago have provided plenty of those types of veiled indications, both publicly and privately.

Among other things, the police have made it very clear they have not yet found any proof of an attack, despite having almost all of Smollett’s movements on surveillance video. They have disclosed that Smollett would not give over his cell phone to verify his timeline of events. They even published photos of “persons of interest” that they had to know were going to be universally mocked for being obviously irrelevant.

In my view, none of those important revelations would have been made public in the way that they were, unless there was extreme suspicion within the police force that Smollett’s story was not fully accurate.

By extension, media figures would not be being told by their police sources, as I have been told is currently happening both routinely and with vigor, that the authorities are acting on the assumption that they will never find any evidence to fully substantiate Smollett’s story. This isn’t just happening via idle speculation either, the police are doing so with great specificity, even including an alternative theory for what really happened (current attempts to find the origin of the rope found around Smollett’s neck long after the event was over are believed to be the most likely game-changer, if there ever is one in this case).

As for the Chicago media, a couple of local television reporters are apparently using Twitter as a confessional for information about the case that their stations currently fear to air. Rob Elgas of the Chicago ABC affiliate, and Rafer Weigel of the Fox station (which carries Smollett’s show Empire) have continually updated the developments, or lack thereof, in a way that paints a much different picture from the one that viewers would see on an actual newscast.

It is very obvious that if one major news outlet in Chicago had the guts to be the first to openly discredit Smollett’s story, the others would soon follow the leader. But because the risk of being wrong in this situation (see Smollett’s PC Force Field), there is just no incentive to take that dive until and unless the police finally make a definitive statement.

I have written previously about my skepticism about the case, and speculated that this story would quickly disappear because there is no way it would get conclusively solved, and no one in authority will have any appetite for the perils of debunking a story from someone like Smollett. However, Weigel tweeted out some rather candid thoughts yesterday which gave me slight hope that maybe we will actually get to the truth of this matter (though, if that truth is indeed as those closest to the story suspect that it is, the news cycle created by that shocking disclosure will probably be exceedingly short).

Matthew Cullinan Hoffman #fundie lifesitenews.com

December 11, 2018 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A group of archeologists and other scientists say they have discovered strong evidence that the region of the “Middle Ghor,” where the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah are believed to have existed, were in fact destroyed by a meteor that exploded in the sky above, raining down superheated matter and raising temperatures to thousands of degrees, a theory that matches the account of the cities’ destruction contained in the Old Testament Book of Genesis.

According to the theory, the meteor exploded at low altitude with the force of a ten megaton atomic bomb at an altitude of about one kilometer over the northeast corner of the Dead Sea, and obliterated all of civilization in the 25-kilometer-wide circular plain that constitutes the “Middle Ghor.”

The researchers presented preliminary findings on the subject at this year’s annual meeting of the American Schools of Oriental Research in November, and have been developing the theory since at least 2015. They state that the evidence from radiocarbon dating indicates that a group of civilizations flourished in the area for over two millennia, until approximately 1700 BC, when the mud-brick walls of the buildings in the region simultaneously disappeared and only the stone foundations remained.

At the same time, the pottery in the settlements was heated into glass in the space of milliseconds, according to the results of an analysis of the Zircon crystals formed in the process, indicating that they were briefly exposed to temperatures of approximately 4000 to 12000 degrees Celsius, comparable to the temperature of the surface of the sun.

The explosion rained down platinum as well as molten lava on the region, according to two of the archeologists, and this further confirms that a meteor was the source, given that platinum is found in higher concentrations in meteors than on earth.

Approximately 40,000 to 60,000 people living in the region were killed, and a 500-square kilometer area was rendered uninhabitable for 600 to 700 years, the researchers estimate. They believe that the area was stripped of its topsoil, and that salts from the nearby Dead Sea were spread over the land, destroying its fertility.

The settlements that were annihilated in the event include the principal excavation site, “Tall el-Hammam,” which the archeologists believe is the city of Sodom, whose destruction is recounted in the Book of Genesis, chapter 19. The approximate date of the annihilation also matches the time period corresponding to the event in Genesis, according to archeologists.

The research has been carried out by the Tall el-Hammam Excavation Project (TeHEP) by a team of scientists from various universities and scientific institutes, including New Mexico Tech, Northern Arizona University, North Carolina State University, Elizabeth City (NC) State University, DePaul University, Trinity Southwest University, and Los Alamos National Laboratories.

Close correlation with the Book of Genesis, chapter 19

Two archeologists involved in the Tall el-Hammam Excavation Project, Steven Collins and Phillip Silvia, wrote in a 2015 conference paper that “the physical evidence from Tall el-Hammam and neighboring sites exhibit signs of a highly destructive concussive and thermal event that one might expect from what is described in Genesis 19.”

“The soil/ash samples gathered from Tall el-Hammam contain evidence of top-soil destruction and sub-soil contamination with Dead Sea salts that would have prevented the cultivation of crops for many centuries following the event, which explains (in part, at least) the long occupational hiatus,” they add.

According to the nineteenth chapter of the Book of Genesis, verse 24, “The Lord rained upon Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven,” a statement that matches well the high temperatures and superheated stones that would have rained from the sky in such an event.

The Hebrew word for “brimstone” is normally applied to sulfur, which is a stone that burns.

Genesis 19 also seems to describe the general devastation in the region, including the loss of plant life discovered by the archeologists, stating in verse 25, “And he destroyed these cities, and all the country about, all the inhabitants of the cities, and all things that spring from the earth.”

“The country about” is the Hebrew word “hakkikkar,” which refers to a plain seated between mountains, or a valley. Archeologists believe this area to be the Middle Ghor.

Genesis adds that Abraham “looked towards Sodom and Gomorrah, and the whole land of that country: and he saw the ashes rise up from the earth as the smoke of a furnace.”

Genesis and other books of the Bible state that Sodom was destroyed in retribution for the sexual perversion of the inhabitants, particularly their desire for sexual relations with the same sex, which the Scripture calls an “abomination.”

The New Testament Letter of Jude likens fires that destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah to the “eternal fire” of hell.

“Sodom and Gomorrah, and the neighboring cities...having given themselves to fornication, and going after other flesh, were made an example, suffering the punishment of eternal fire,” the letter states in chapter one.

Sean Thomas, been a Christian all of my adult life #fundie quora.com

(in response to: Christians believe you go to heaven or hell. Then how come psychics are able to talk to dead people who were not Christians and they say they are in a good place?)

Because most “psychics” are frauds that have been taught a variety of strategies for getting you to give away details without realizing it, that they then capitalize on to amaze you.

A single semester of Psychology 101 will have you seeing through those tricks.

The small fraction that are legitimate sorcerers are communing with demons, not dead people, and you should stay well away from such people.

Sid Cordle & HoratioLordNelson #fundie premier.org.uk

Sid Cordle: The law should just ask if there was another printer who could do the banner? If so then what is the problem? There has to be reasonable accommodation for people who conscientously object to promoting homosexuality. I mean the law wouldn't force an Asian restaurant to serve pork when there's another restaurant down the road that does and they know full well Asian restaurants by and large think its wrong to eat pork. There has to be reasonable accommodation for the ethics of the business.

HoratioLordNelson: Ageed. He wasn't refusing to serve them because they were gay, which most would agree is wrong. He was refusing to promote a message with which he disagrees. Same as Ashers bakery, and even Peter Tatchel came out in their defence. They could have found another printer but no they had to viciously stick the knife in with a vindictive prosecution, persecuting those who refuse to endorse their agenda, those who demanded tolerance showing themselves incapable of tolerance themselves. The LGBT lobby never waste a chance to demonstrate the true vicious intolerant nature of their agenda, you reap what you sow, the tide will turn against them one day. When are they going to start going after muslim businesses in the same fashion? No, they only want the easy low hanging fruit offered by christians, and the courts have declared open season and rich pickings to be had.

I P Knightley #fundie premier.org.uk

dandbj13: Not sure why a person's conscience should free them from the law. I remember a time when people were openly hostile to serving black people as equals, and blatantly refused them service on the basis of conscience.
Then there were mixed-race marriages which many Christian states made illegal. The federal laws changed all that. But those states still have the racist laws on their books. Can't say I give a damn about their conscience.
Now the same thing is happening to people with SSA. There are laws, ancient laws on the books making their activities illegal despite the fact that the federal government has spoken clearly on the matter.
Individuals feel emboldened to act on their prejudices despite the law thinking their conscience is some kind of shield. It is not, nor has it ever been. So I really don't give a fig about a bigot's conscience.

(...)

dandbj13: You would benefit from a better understanding of biology. Let's say you come to understand that being gay is also biological. Would you then change your opinion? Or would you continue to say that it is okay to discriminate?

I P Knightley: Being homosexual is not biological any more than being an embezzler is.

dandbj13: You say that as if I didn't just drop this link:
http://disq.us/url?url=http...
Some people just need better information to make better decisions. Other people are just bigots, and will ignore better information to hang on to their bigotry.
At this point, you are just denying science to hang on to your bigotry. This happened with racists as well. Even after science told us there was no inferiority, racists just keep saying there was anyway.
You know science tells us that all sexual preference is biological. Yet you deny it, not because you have better science, but because you have stronger bigotry.

(...)

dandbj13: Never said biology was the only factor. But you should definitely revise your numbers, and do better research.
https://www.theatlantic.com...
But the problem is the same for the Christian if it is biological to any degree. Tit is as biological as heterosexuality and left-handedness.
It is also not unnatural in any way. As I keep pointing out, it is present in other animals. They are not acting against nature. Neither are humans.
The real issue is you don't care about the science at all. You only care that your bible says it is an abomination. That is all that will ever matter to you. No science will ever trump that for you. In this way, you have removed yourself from rational discourse.

I P Knightley: When did you drop it? A few minutes ago? I don't have time to read it now, possibly ever

dandbj13: I dropped it yesterday. But your comment tells us everything we need to know about you. You will never have time to learn something that disrupts your preconceived bigotry. Good day.

I P Knightley: That's a very stupid lie.
If you had posted that link yesterday, I would have seen it and read it, which I have done now.
It's entirely fact free, just assertion.

dandbj13 : From the article you call fact free:
"These findings are part of a report released by the Academy of Science South Africa, the outcome of work conducted by a panel put together in 2014 to evaluate all research on the subject of sexual orientation done over the last 50 years. It did this against the backdrop of a growing number of new laws in Africa that discriminate against people attracted to others of the same sex. The work was conducted in conjunction with the Ugandan Academy of Science."
Now all the scientific reports are fact free. But you think your bible has better reliable scientific facts? Show me something in the Bible that is more than a claim on the subject. I'll wait...

Anonymous #fundie fstdt.com

You know I just read all of the comments that were made toward Ron and the level of stupidity and ingorance totally perplexes me.

Every one keeps saying about how we discriminate against this group and that group. Time to set the record strait you idiots.

Lets start with gays since you are all so feminine and over sensative. When I was a scout there was a young man who was a homosexual and just for the record he was one of the best guys in the troop to talk to and hang out with.

Now lets talk about god. I don't know how many of you have ever had to write a date on a piece of paper or some other document but everytime you do you acknowledge the existance of god. After all we live in 2008 A.D. (For all you uneducated morons out there, A.D. stands for "After death." To make it a little more clear we are talking about the death of Jesus Christ.) Oh, and by the way, we have never turned anyone away who doesn't believe in god.

Now we are gonna talk about women.......... Once more to all of you uneducated loud mouth assholes out there we have a little thing in the Boy Scout organization called an Explorer Post. Now I'm gonna give you a chance to use your brains for the first time in a long time. Who do you think can join an Explorer Post............times up and I doubt you guessed that women can join the Explorer Post.

As for the separation of church and state....I'll bet not one of you god damned morons can show me anywhere in the Constitution of the United States where it says there is any kind of separation between church and state. Good luck dumb asses.

Now before you go shooting that hole under your nose that you stuff with GOD only knows what you might want to do a little bit of research. It's amazing how easy it is to put all you fucking idiots in your place with just a little bit of research.

Emergency Nation #fundie voat.co

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The short version of our constitution is that it would restore male authority, economic freedom, parental rights and it would banish violent religions such as Islam and Marxism.

We would establish our new nation by preferably buying or inhabiting remote territory. In other words we don't have to wait for the world to end or convince half the population - we can organize and rebuild now!

To truly join our cause you must become a citizen.

According to our constitution there are two ways to become a citizen. You can either pay the tax which is currently 5 dollars for 1 year of citizenship or you can do some volunteer work.

This is to insure that everyone that votes has a stake in the society and prevent socialists from joining. Only male citizens get to vote.

(Important legal notice: The UK and other Western nations are starting to lock people up for thought crime, join us only using a unique Voat account over TOR. Direct contact over BitMessage using the following address is also an option: BM-2cVyxL3UgYZNJ7SHvzWRWWGErAimzsXymd)

Paid citizenship

If you choose to pay you may transfer 5 dollars worth of Dash to the following address. Observe that this address will change after each election (31/12).

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Citizenship through service

Right now our top priority is spreading the message and assembling an army for our self defense. Once we reach sufficient size as a movement we can transition into a real world state by imposing our law in zones of anarchy or by buying territory.

Are you as tired of watching civilization slide slowly to ruin as the rest of us? Then let's get this phase over with as soon as possible.

Here are the ways you can currently help: (only one option of your own choice is necessary!)

• Direct reddit and voat users to the pdf of our constitution or this subverse (3 link referrals minimum).
• Offer to provide assistance (such as counting votes, mod duty and other administrative tasks).
• PM /u/7e62ce85 a picture of a weapon and/or body armor you own along with a piece of paper with your username.
• Offer to allow 1 fellow citizen in need per year to stay for up to 1 month at your place and sleep on a couch or on the floor.

Other information about citizenship

To avoid voter fraud or being shut down you must¹ use these two apps:

• Dash digital cash wallet (core version).
• BitMessage.

Even if you provide services instead of paying taxes you must sign your votes with a Dash key. Do not worry, this will work even if you have no Dash at all.

Once you are a citizen your BitMessage key will be added to our citizens mailing list in case Voat is shut down.

1: If you vote using BitMessage only you can skip installing and using Dash.

Frequently asked questions

Q: Are you serious?

A: Yes. I'm working on this full time now and I have 500K USD I can spend on this.

Q: Do you think this will work?

A: That depends entirely on how many citizens we can muster. We have a vast advantage over the rest of the alt right movement in that we don't have to convince half the population of some communist or democratic country. We only need enough to start over somewhere in the world. There are a lot of deserted areas on the planet if you can defend them. There are also many poor nations that might sell territory.

Q: How can we possibly rebuild civilization from scratch?

A: We don't have to. We can buy machines for producing food, energy and water on the open market. We can even buy pre-fab houses. This is the absolutely easiest part of the whole operation. The hard part is finding people to do it with and with who to defend it!

Q: How will we earn money to buy things we can't produce ourselves in the long run?

A: Almost as soon as we control our own territory we can offer three insanely valuable products: Legal surrogacy, legal advanced biotech and free finance.

Technologies such as CAR-T cells, DRACO and CRISPR have already been invented. All these technologies need is a regulatory safe space which our constitution can provide.

Men wishing to have children that they are actually allowed to raise or men seeking legal surrogacy should also be drawn to our nation.

Our nation could also serve as a tax haven for foreign companies and raise money that way.

Would you like to know more?

7e62ce85 and Emergency Nation #fundie reddit.com

[OP of "We are a minarchist group that believes in physical removal, feel free to stop by"]

I represent a minarchist group called the Emergency Nation.

We have our own manifesto and constitution: Link.

We believe:
• The government should only take care of police, justice and military.
• Parents should have the right to see their own children.
• Only men should be able to vote because women vote for socialists.
• All citizens must either do service or pay a small fixed yearly security fee. Failure to comply means exile. (This is called a regressive taxation scheme)
• Socialists, feminists etc. must be physically removed (exiled if possible, but otherwise killed).
• Our rules do not allow amendments or changes. It is a static constitution similar to a religion. We hope this will make our nation stable over hundreds of years.

More details inside.

West Virginia delegate Eric Porterfield #fundie lgbtqnation.com

A Republican legislator said that he would drown his own kids is if they turned out to be gay.

West Virginia delegate Eric Porterfield appeared on WVVA, an NBC affiliate, to talk about homophobic comments he made last week, where he said that LGBTQ people are “a modern day version of the Ku Klux Klan.”

He wore a red MAGA cap – along with a shirt and tie – during the interview.

The reporter asked him what he would do if his son or daughter came out as gay.

“Well, I would dress my daughter first, as I would take her for a pedicure, I’d take her to get her nails done, and see if she could swim,” Porterfield said, smiling.

“If it was my son, I would probably take him hunting, I would take him fishing, then I’d see if he could swim,” Porterfield, still smiling.

The reporter asked him to clarify. “I just want to make sure they could swim,” he repeated when questioned, continuing to grin.

She again asked him to clarify, and he said, “That’s it. I’d take them out to do activities.” He was still smiling, as if threatening to kill his own children were cute.

Last week, the West Virginia legislature was debating a bill that would have banned cities and counties from protecting LGBTQ people in their anti-discrimination laws, like Tennessee, North Carolina, and Arkansas currently do.

During the floor debate, Porterfield said that anti-discrimination laws were “bigoted,” “intolerant,” “discriminatory— nonsense” and “a travesty— against people who have either religious convictions or who don’t want to run their business the way a socialist-left agenda wants us to run it.”

He also used the word “faggot” during the debate while discussing Milo Yiannopoulos.

His state’s Republican party leadership denounced his comments, saying that they were “hateful, hurtful, and do not reflect the values of our country.”

KingofNorthKorea #fundie reddit.com

The Freemasons are Satanic in nature. Where the Catholic church seeks to bring men to do good works for the glorification of God, the Masons seek to glorify man trough their lies. They have created false history of their own greatness and presented it as a source of universal truth. They formally preach the heresy of indifferentism towards faith by asserting a God indifferent of doctrine or truth, but one who simply manafests their own greatness. Their "divine architect" is not a source of glory and rightousness, but a source of inspiration for their own desires opon the world.

At best they are preaching atheism to their members when they do not even know it and at worse they are spreading Satanistic self glorification. I know many Masons might line up to defend agaimst what I say as slander, but this is only because they are ignorant of their own organisations nature. They often are suckered into these habits without their knowledge by the language and ritualism of their particular society. The same trend happens in the catholic church writ large at the hands of our society. The evils of our society slowly have seeped in without us realizing, all the while thinking we were on the path of rightousness. It is no wonder though, our society was built by the demonic ideology of Masonism.

Chellebaby #fundie premierchristianity.com

Niel Matrix: So you told them about Santa, "because you didn't want them to grow up believing something that wasn't real"
But you tell them that a man walked on water, was killed and then rose from the dead to become god?
Oh the irony!

Chellebaby: I agree to an extent.I don't understand why born again believers would lie to their children about Santa which we all know does not exist. It would then make it difficult to explain to a child about God as a lot of believing in God is through Faith and Trust of his existence.
This is why you do believe as you want a sign. You want God to jump up and down with flashing lights and say here I am. That is not going to happen. But if you were to exercise a bit of faith even tiniest bit to the notion God does exist and pay attention to the little "coincidences" that will happen in your life. You will see God does I indeed exist.

Mark Jones #fundie premier.org.uk

Oh I do care about how others suffer. That’s why I speak the truth. See unlike you, I actually care about seeing people come to know Jesus Christ. I don’t care whether the truth isn’t “nice”, I care that it brings people into a relationship with Jesus.

You on the other hand only care about yourself and your ego. You care about popularity. So much so that you will willing cost someone an eternity with God to stroke your own ego. But deep down you already know this, and it probably makes you sick to your stomach.

I do pray for you Colin, as you need Jesus in your life. But until your heart is softened you’ll never know Him.

Deep down you know the words you speak are lies. That is why when offered the chance to show the validity of your words you can’t do it.

Chellebaby #fundie premier.org.uk

SteveWB: Isn’t it shocking, David, for Christians to be called the ‘love brigade’!!

Chellebaby: Correction it is NOT Christians that are being called the love brigade. It is indeed the fake Christians with their fake love everyone gospel. What makes the gospel even more ludicrous is the fact that those of you on here who claim that false gospel FAIL regularly to show LOVE to any of your enemies. It would be laughable if it wasn't so dangerous and leading people to Hell.

Candace Owens #fundie eu.usatoday.com

Conservative pundit and speaker Candace Owens has responded to criticism of recently unearthed remarks she made late last year commenting on Hitler while defending the term nationalism.

A clip of her answer posted to Twitter has been viewed more than two million times. Many on social media have criticized a portion of her answer in which Owens comments, "if Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well, okay fine."

On Friday, Owens dismissed the controversy and blamed "Leftist journalists" for mischaracterizing her comments.

Hitler was "a homicidal, psychotic maniac" and there is "no excuse or defense ever for ... everything that he did," she clarified.

Her comments were meant to show that Hitler was not a nationalist, she said. Hitler did not put Germans first; he "was putting German Jews into concentration camps and murdering — he was a mass murderer," she said.

[...]

In the comments, Owens answered an audience member who asked for a "longterm prognosis" about the terms "globalism" and "nationalism."

Owens embraced the term nationalism; claiming the definition gets "poisoned" by proponents of globalism.

She said:

I actually don't have any problems at all with the word 'nationalism.' I think that it gets, the definition gets poisoned by elitists that actually want globalism. Globalism is what I don't want. So when you think about, whenever we say 'nationalism,' the first thing people thing about, at least in America, is Hitler. You know, he was a national socialist, but if Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well, okay fine. The problem is ... he had dreams outside of Germany. He wanted to globalize. He wanted everybody to be German. Everybody to be speaking German. Everybody to look a different way. ... To me that's not nationalism.

universallyabhorred #fundie incels.is

[RageFuel] Why Do LGBT Freaks Project Their Perversion On Incels

If you go on IT you see it all the time. These cucks constantly claim incels are closeted gays, bisexuals or transgenders, occasionally they use posts where an incel mentions being mogged by chad, rates males or mentions attractive males in real life. Many of those that claim incels are LGBT are LGBT themselves.

Alternatively you see propoganda on places like 4chan trying to convince incels to engage in faggotry or transition into a foid. Occasionally if an incel forces himself to think use or fantasize about homosexuality or experiment out of desperation then they use this as evidence the incel was gay all this time and his views on female and blackpill were due to repressed homosexuality, rather than the thoughts and actions being an adaptation to tough circumstances of loneliness, isolation, rejection humilation, hatred, and scorn heaped upon the male by the opposite sex.

It seems IT wants us to engage in faggotry and transgenderism so that they can use it to discredit us and we will be out of females way so femoids can continue to fuck chads and deny incels. It is a plot to pacify incels so they will no longer complain about females, spread the blackpill, or take action against humanity.

Do not fall for the lies,it is better to die with honor and dignity than to turn towards faggotry or castration.

.Ann & Just Mat #fundie nowtheendbegins.com

.Ann:
I don't know if the attacks on Christianity and Christians have increased, or gotten uglier, I know the early Christians were persecuted horribly

Just Mat:
They have got both uglier an increased in number. But I'm beginning to see that satan doesn't need to have massive persecution in the US to attack Christians. See, he may have learned that if you violently attack them the Christians grow stronger and multiply in number. So, as I see it, he has been effectively using his alternative weapon of corrupting Christianity and polluting the minds, hearts and souls of the non-believers. And the way he has been doing it is totally corrupting the pulpits, offering a cotton candy quasi-religious "Christianity" (complete with totally PC, politicized preaching, MTV concert programs passed as worship, social hours supposedly to foster closer relationships instead of teaching the Bible and social programs in the place of evangelizing), and a total anything goes, accepting and even celebrating, of abominable perversions and sexual freedom due to being able to murder the consequences. He has flooded the TV and "Entertainment" industry with satan worship as the better alternative to the dry dead "Christianity" that he has created. And he has held up the lure of power (social, political and personal magical power - note Tom Brady's confession, and he's hardly alone - for all those who will follow and worship). So the non-believers and not a few real Christians look at their powerless, empty lives and desire that power and they succumb to satan. That's why satanism, literal blood sacrifice offerings of children are made to him (complete with drinking their blood and eating them), and witchcraft are on the rise in the US without there being any physical attacks being made on Christians.

"the biggest skeptic in the world" #fundie w3school.com

PROOF THE BIBLE IS TRUE The WORLD'S BIGGEST SKEPTIC regarding the Bible
Later, he went to Israel and saw the evidence of Biblical places and prophecies.
There are app 10,385 Bible prophecies. NOT ONE has ever been wrong.
Life's #1 decision: Will you trust in Jesus plus read and obey the Bible?
God's Word reveals “What Lies Ahead” with 100% accuracy. Nuclear Blast

[...]

What you may be about to read or hear is true.
It has not been watered–down or modified to try and keep your attention.
It has not been altered, so it would say what your itching ears might want to hear.
An estimated 40,000 hours of Bible study & research over 35 years has been invested,
including trips to the actual places many events will or have already taken place.
Only Jesus Christ, Who is come in the flesh, is to be glorified.

[begins describing the rapture and its aftermath]

(Russia and Its Allies Attack Israel)

Not long after the Rapture, God will bring Russia forth against Israel. Iran and others will come also. Russian fighter planes Russia attacks Israel to carry away silver, gold, and food, and to take a great spoil. This indicates they will be hurting for food and finances. Are there any signs that this is beginning to happen now? Tiny Israel, despite its military advances, will have no chance. But, then, God steps in and makes His presence known. He destroys nearly all the invaders in such a way that the world will recognize Jesus Christ is alive and is protecting Israel–Ez 38,39.
The destruction of the invading armies will start with an earthquake. The invaders will go into a state of confusion and turn their weapons on each other. A plague and sickness will strike them. Heavy rains will come. Huge hailstones will rain down on them. Burning coals of sulfur will also come down. Only one–sixth of the Russian invaders will be left alive. The birds and wild animals will have a great feast. God will be glorified as a result. Those that plunder Israel will become plunder for Israel. The dead bodies will be buried for seven months. Then men will search for more bones.

(World War 3)

The USA becomes involved, but at what point is unclear. The destruction of the land of Russia (or Magog) and the USA follows. God will send fire upon both nations. The massive destruction will come from aircraft, missiles, and satellites of the opposing nation. The battle will take 4 hours of the day and 4 hours of the night. Thick clouds will cover one–third of the earth. The fiery red horse will have been unleashed. Are there any problems developing between the USA and Russia right now? Is much of the world turning against Israel, even though, in 1948, much of the world was “for” Israel? If you claim to be born again, but do not love God’s people, the Jews, you should examine yourself by God’s Word and repent.

(Results of World War 3)

One–fourth of the world’s population will ultimately die. The nearly two billion people that will die will have had no chance to repent, as this happens soon after the Rapture. Therefore, ALL perish to hell–ref Rev 6:8. Hell followed all that died. As a result of the Russian–USA exchange, one–third of trees will be burned up. All green grass worldwide will be burned up, as the radio active fallout follows the wind currents. This includes farm crops. One–third of the waters will become wormwood (or poisoned, or radioactive, or bitter). One–third of the sea will become blood. One–third of the creatures in the sea will die—thus, a shortage of fish. One–third of the ships will be destroyed. Few ever thought this war would happen. From this point on, much of the USA and Russia can be expected to be a radioactive pile of ash. They will no longer be on the world scene. The USA will be as a tree that is reduced to a stump. Few are left alive. The dead bodies will become food for the wild animals and birds. The USA has turned their back on God. The preaching has become watered–down. Nearly every perverse sin imaginable has become acceptable. Thus, God’s judgment will come.

How often do you fast unto the Lord—perhaps for a week each year? Do you ever fast even for a day? Do you tithe? God’s people that understand His Word do. The Bible teaches FEW go to heaven. Did you ever hear a clergy say any deceased person went to hell? Some even teach there is a purgatory. It is unbiblical–Lk 16:22,23; 2 Cor 5:8.

(After WW3)

A united Europe led by the Antichrist will reach far and wide. China and the Kings of the East will dominate the east. 144,000 male, virgin Jews will go forth with the Gospel. They should alert the world as to what is happening and lead many to repent and follow Christ. However, children will betray their parents to the authorities. Wives and husbands will betray each other. Hate and coldness will be everywhere, but even more toward those that would dare to believe in Christ. False christs and false prophets that do miracles will come forth causing many to be confused and misled.

(The Jews Return to Israel)

Israeli flag Following WW3, Jews from around the world that survived will be gathered to their own land of Israel, and none will be left behind. THEN THE INCREDIBLE HAPPENS. ONE–THIRD OF ISRAEL WILL BECOME FOLLOWERS OF JESUS. GOD REFINES THEM. HE TEACHES AND CORRECTS THEM. YET THE REST OF ISRAEL WILL STILL WALK CONTRARY TO GOD’S WAYS.

Massive famines will follow WW3. The price of a day’s food will be a day’s wages, if a person can find it. The black horse of starvation will be released. Increased earthquakes, unusual weather patterns, and huge tidal waves (or tsunamis) will continue to increase as birth pangs of a woman.

Dieter Neth, Converted to Catholicism being almost middle age. #fundie quora.com

One might just start a prayer:

Please Lord, throw some brains down here—. Atheists are trying to be smart again here on Quora.

How do YOU know that the Earth is round?

Yes, right. You have heard a teacher TALK about it being round and you trusted your teacher to tell you the truth.

The title of Jesus is “Rabbi”. That comes up a few times in the Bible. That word means “teacher”.

So the Apostles may have heard the story about Jesus being tempted by the devil in the wilderness from Jesus himself. After all, they were hanging out together for 3 years straight and had ample time to talk. No stupid users needing smartphones back then to seem intelligent. And the trusted their teacher.

So the apostles heard about these details from Jesus and then told Matthew, Mark and Luke and probably a whole bunch of other folks as well.

I can still reproduce to great detail my story how I have met my wife, and that was almost 30 years ago. I do not claim to be smarter or to have better memory than any author from biblical times. If I can remember things like that, anyone could. The experience at hand only needs to cause a great enough impact on you and you remember it for life.

And this is Jesus after all. He should be able to remember a few things. After all, this incident in the wilderness was some 40 days before His entrance into Jerusalem. They had some 6 days together before Jesus got crucified - enough to talk about these “details”, with His Apostles, maybe during Last Supper.

Of course, these days people do not talk to each other anymore about meaningful things during supper, thanks to—— “smart” phones. And they assume that people have always been som limited throughout history. There is nothing supernatural or miraculous about sharing and remembering a story and then write it down a few decades later.

Daniel K. #fundie dw.com

Media report German KSK special forces commando suspended for right-wing extremism

German media report a lieutenant colonel in the KSK special forces unit has been suspended for right-wing social media posts. His opinions reflected the ideas of the "Reichsbürger" extremist movement.

Germany's Bundeswehr has suspended a lieutenant colonel in the elite Special Forces Command (KSK) commando unit on suspicion of right-wing extremism, according to the military's counterintelligence service MAD.

"The person is already known by the MAD," a spokesperson said. "The responsible authorities have already taken disciplinary measures."

The commando, named Daniel K., has received a service and uniform ban. The suspension was first reported by Bild newspaper, which said the lieutenant colonel was being investigated by the MAD for the spread of right-wing extremism on social media."

According to German news magazine Der Spiegel, Daniel K. posted opinions in a closed Facebook group that reflected the ideas of the so-called "Reichsbürger" (Citizens of the Reich), a extremist movement in Germany that rejects the Federal Republic as a state and does not recognize the government. He allegedly demanded in a post that the Federal Presidential Office be abolished.

Der Spiegel said that Daniel K. was flagged by the MAD in 2007 as a KSK captain after he sent a hate letter to a comrade, for which he received disciplinary sanctions.

Extremism in the Bundeswehr

The KSK, a unit of about 70 soldiers, made headlines last year after a farewell party for a company commander featured a soldier demonstrating the Hitler salute and right-wing rock music.

In January, the accused soldier, Patrick D., accepted a fine amounting to 40 days' pay, or €4,000 ($4,500), after a lengthy trial. He had also been suspended in November 2018.

The MAD said a few weeks ago that it would be screening the Bundeswehr more closely for supporters of the Reichsbürger movement and the doomsday prepper scene. According to MAD, the number of right-wing extremist cases in 2018 was 270, down from 379 the year before. However, suspected cases of references to Islam in the Bundeswehr increased from 46 to 50 last year, and references to foreign extremism rose from 22 to 35.

David J. Stewart #fundie lovethetruth.com

Realizing that people are sinful by nature would cause us to place Bible-reading and prayer back into the public-school system. Is it any wonder why so many children are growing up to be heathen citizens? I mean...is a little decent Bible and prayer time going to hurt the kids in school? No, it would be great for them! The kids are being brain-washed with evolution, why is the story of creation banned? Is not evolution the religious belief of atheists? By the way, atheism IS a religion (it is a belief is it not?). So who's fooling who? Everyone has beliefs, and those beliefs affect their frame-of-mind to make decisions.

So when you think of it, there is no such thing as separation of religion and state. People think the terms "church" and "religion" are synonymous, they aren't. There are MANY religions today that have no church, no building, no organized meeting place (the New Age religion is a good example). Ironically, atheists meet in their various non-profit organizations but are not considered a church because they claim not to be religious. Here's THE TRUTH friend, atheists are VERY RELIGIOUS (that is--they have very strong beliefs). This great misnomer has given the atheists and other heathen organizations an unfair advantage over churches.

Saudi government, Google, Apple #fundie dailymail.co.uk

Women-tracking app that lets Saudi Arabian men track their wives is ALLOWED on Apple and Google stores and has been downloaded more than one million times

Apple and Google are accused of helping 'enforce gender apartheid'
The iTunes and Google Play stores freely host an app called Absher, run by the Saudi government that tracks women and stops them leaving the country
Absher allows men in Saudi Arabia to track and control where women travel
Under Saudi law, every woman has a legal 'guardian' who can restrict her travel to specific airports and routes, receiving alerts when they cross borders

Apple and Google are being accused of helping to 'enforce gender apartheid' in Saudi Arabia by offering an app on their platforms which allows men to track women and stop them leaving the country.

Absher is available on both the Google Play and iTunes store and is an app developed by the Saudi government which allows men to specify when and how women can cross Saudi borders - and will even alert them if they do so.

Absher's travel 'featured' have been identified by activists and refugees as a major factor in the continued difficulty women have leaving Saudi Arabia.

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The app allows for guardians to state where women can go, for how long and which airports they're allowed to go to.

Alerts are triggered if a woman leaves a certain area. It is one of the main reasons women have difficulty trying to flee Saudi Arabia and often get caught.

Absher tips off male guardians and the fleeing women can be apprehended whil still withint the country.

On another page the guardian can see easily which permissions are active and change them if needed.

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Yasmine Mohammed, ex-Muslim activist who campaigns and writes on women's rights said there was a tragedy in the way Apple and Google were facilitating 'archaic misogyny.'

'What irony. In the West these technologies are used to improve lives and in Saudi Arabia they're used to enforce gender apartheid.'

Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International have expressed concern about the app which have been downloaded from the Google and Apple stores more than one millions times.

'Apple and Google have rules against apps that facilitate threats and harassment. Apps like this one can facilitate human rights abuses, including discrimination against women,' Rothna Begum a Middle East researcher for Human Rights Watch told The Insider.

'In evaluating whether an app should be allowed, app store providers should be considering the broader context of the purpose of the app, how it is used in practice, and whether it facilitates serious abuses. Companies should apply extra scrutiny to government-operated apps in particular.'

'Even though the app is more general purpose, the government could simply remove the guardianship tracking functionality from the app, and continue to offer the rest of the functionality.'

Similarly, Dana Ahmed, a Saudi Arabia researcher for Amnesty International similarly condemned the app saying, 'SMS alerts were 'another example of how the Saudi Arabian government has produced tools to limit women's freedoms.

'The tracking of women in this way curtails their movement and once again highlights the disturbing system of discrimination under the guardianship laws.'

The human rights organization has called on Apple and Google to accept that the app is being used to harm women, and demand changes to stop it happening in future.

Apple and Google have so far yet to to comment.

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "PRAISE REPORT: Christophobic-Hate Channel Closed:

Brothers and sisters in Christ, it was brought to my attention that the hate channel a certain lost individual used to stalk, troll, harass and persecute bible-believing Christians for years has been closed. Thank you to everyone that prayed, flagged abusive comments, reported abusive threads, hateful comments and harassing sock accounts over there and a special thank you to those who continued to stand for righteousness even in the face of targeted harassment, Christophobia, persecution and abuse. Please continue to pray for the individual that devoted so much time to hating, stalking, harassing and persecuting Christians. We forgive him (and the person that gave him the channel). God is forever faithful!

P.S. I know that many people who do not identify as Christian reported the abuse as well, because it was the right thing to do. Thank you all and may God bless and keep you. I would do the same for you and have, many times :).

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Mick Williams:
I didn't see it anywhere on the main list. Did anyone ever patronize it anyway? Weirdness.

Lady Checkmate:
"Did anyone ever patronize it anyway?" No. He spent his time over there talking to his socks himself. Pathetic.

Lady Checkmate:
I blocked him and many of his socks well over a year ago, so I wasn't privy to all of his trolling (hate, Christophobia, death threats, death wishes, murder fantasies, etc.), but others would occasionally let me know that he was still at it (send me links & screenshots) and I would some times take a look over there. Their hearts were in the right place. Toward the end, he was boldly wishing death on me, fantasizing about murdering me and calling cold-blooded murder a "cute idea". Can you imagine the type of person that thinks that's OK? Yet they accuse us of hate - clearly projecting their hate on to those they hate. Insanity.
It seems like they removed most of the targeted harassment, hate threads, removed the ability to start new hate threads and removed the channel owner and him, the lone mod. It was a good idea to close that toxic channel. Still, I pray that at some point he and the channel owner get right with God. Even though they were extremely abusive toward us and seemed to really want to hurt us, I forgive them and pray God's will for them, but I don't trust either of them.
I don't know if I've ever said this, but thank you for being faithful and walking through that abuse and persecution with me. He targeted you, not only because you are a Christian man sharing Truth, but also because you didn't abandon the ministry here when he set out to destroy it. Remember, where 2 or 3 are gathered in His name, there He is in the midst ??. I can tell you now that I was hesitant to mod you because I didn't want them to target and harass you like they were doing to me, but I'm glad I obeyed God. I knew you were a Christian and capable mod, but I still wanted to protect you, lol. Clearly, you didn't need my protection-God was/is enough for both of us. Still, a lesser man/woman would've denied God or compromised and turned on me like that (finger snap) to avoid the abuse and persecution, but you didn't. That says a lot about you/your character. May God bless and keep you, always. If I never meet you in person here, I hope we come across eachother's path in heaven.

Milan Woodson, 27 years as an ordained minister #fundie quora.com

Yes I have. A real witch was sent after me and cursed me with a spell. She sealed a bad spirit in me. You see, I am a servant of God with special privileges and a special relationship with God. I also have a destiny to fulfill. Don't get me wrong, I am an average person. It is my relationship and situation that is special, but my situation is also one of a kind. It is a situation that happens once in a lifetime, if ever for anyone. The impossible has to be a accomplished against impossible odds.

There has been a challenge between good and bad spirits for my soul. God has allowed this to happen as a challenge. I have to overcome before the return of Christ which is not to long from now, within a decade.

The curse at times affects my brain, heart and hormones beyond my control. This most often happens without any conscious thoughts and feelings of my own.

It takes a lot of inner strength to regain control of its affect on me. Usually I gain control within minutes, but there are times when it takes longer. The spirit inside me is here to make me fail in reaching my destiny. It is trying to corrupt me from within and to get me to do things, my God forbids, of my own will, deliberately. If it succeeds in corrupting me I will loose everything with which God is waiting to bless me. It also can and will take over my soul and destroy me if I sin and fail. Then God will have to choose someone else in my place because of my failure. You see God and it knows that without it within me it would not even be nearly possible to corrupt me from outside myself through what I see, hear or through temptation by people because of my love for God and his ways, my hatred for sin, and my inner strength of character.

It is powerful enough to make me do what is forbidden but God would still be with me because he knows it will have forced me from within. So it tries to make me want to do something seriously sinful on my own so that I will do it of my own free will so as to loose my favor and inheritance from God. I can only obtain my inheritance by overcoming, breaking the spell. I keep my mind and heart, thinking and emotions clean so that I do not become overcome by any temptations from outside myself while the spirit from within myself influences me at times. God knows how much I hate seriously sinful behavior. So temptations turn me off grossly, and may annoy and irritate me. But I try not to show it in my face, expressions or actions before those who enjoy such behavior. I try not to offend those who feel such behavior is normal and natural before God. We live in a world where people have grown up where sinful practices are the norm. People are obsessed with certain sins. They often or consistently talk, gesture and joke about sinful things. I avoid and ignore it as much as possible. The bad spirit at times will come out of dormancy within me when I am around such behavior or talk to manipulate me. But I always evade and resist it to regain control. God strengthens me afterwards whenever it saps too much of my inner strength and resolve, it can also at times lower my inhibitions.

Each time the opportunity to break the spell arises the bad spirit within and all those outside myself interfere through people by manipulating their minds and hearts to interfere by their words, conduct and attitude beyond or below their sense of awareness. Also sometimes, to frighten someone away from me the spirit will cause such a hormonal reaction within me, mostly tingling, which ranges from mild to extreme uneasiness orcdiscomfort, and somehow (probably by the Ouija to) frighten the other person. In a way it is saying: “Boo!” It especially does this when I meet a real potential for breaking the spell. Yet I have to somehow overcome this as well to succeed. I have failed every time since it started. But I must keep on going until the next opportunity that God directs me. If his holy spirit within me does not move me I often do not act but just wait for an indication of when I should act. Sometimes I act on my own to make something happen though. But I have more complete confidence in a choice when God directs me, even if my imperfect thinking may get in the way temporarily. According to the rules of challenge God cannot do it for me but can only assist me to certain degree and bless me with success once the right conditions and circumstance is achieved. I have to overcome in faith on my own. What God does do is protect me from bad people who want to do me harm. People are responding from what the bad spirits are doing to attract negative attention to me. People are helping and on the side of bad spirits and most do not know it when opposing me. Yet, I have to do what I have to do to break free despite what others think. At the same time I have to balance doing what God directs me to do with not fully disregarding nor fully encroaching upon the rights and feelings of others. God's will is paramount but the will of others should not be completely dismissed. God also, at times quickens (:imparts power to) me with holy spirit. He keeps my spirits up.

My situation often looks as if I am in danger, which is allowed by God, but it is those who think they can harm me that are in danger without knowing it. You see, God and all his angels are watching and listening to all those who are in earned with what is happening. Because the angels simply in practical ways recent them, without causing them harm or death they continue to try to harm me thinking no one nor anything can or will stop them. They feel that they are not in danger but I am. Heaven and I know the danger they are in with God. There is only one true God. Those who want to play God will sooner or later face the consequences of playing God. Interfering in the divine will lead to consequences. The results of meddling will be that no one, nothing in the universe, nor any army could prevent the consequences that will insue, however mild or detrimental they may turn out to be as determined by the degree of motive and actions attempted. Erring on the side of caution is the wisest course.

You might ask, why would God allow such a thing. Well, we were all created by God and given life by him. We were created for him and we should want to do whatever he asks. Besides God knows each person better than they know themselves. It is bad angelic spirits that pose the challenge. If God allows some extreme challenge upon a servant of his he knows that he or she can handle it with his help and eventually come off victorious no matter the odds. With God all things are possible. So if God allows this to happen obviously he knows the character of that particular servant is strong enough to handle it and he will give his holy spirit to ensure that his servant can, when and where he or she lacks strength.

It is always for his glory and our own good and future. God always blesses the faithful generously. Often such blessing are unimaginable and unforseen. Look at how God blessed Joseph and Job. Their life story is even recorded in history. We can read and many have read about them over some 3,500 years later.

uninstall #fundie incels.is

adopting a kid = cuck

jfl

do u see lions adopt babies?

fuck no

lions kill the cubs of the previous partner down to the last one

even if this puts the future of the species in danger they still do it

fuck lol@adopting a kid

raising someone else's genes

fuck off with that weak shit propagandist

JohnnySalami #fundie incels.is

Incels should be ancaps

In an anarcho-capitalist society most of us would be long dead due to natural selection, which would be taking process uninhibited by the federal government. Those of us who wouldn’t be dead would have a decent chance to improve because many of us are not complete retards. HGH and T would be available like milk and eggs, we could buy women like slaves. Honestly ancapistan would be great for us

Incel Wiki #fundie incels.wiki

Fatcels (those claiming to be on the inceldom spectrum due to obesity) are widely viewed as volcels in both the mancel incelosphere and the femcel one. This is because obesity is something you can change. A common interjection in the incelosphere is "fatcel = volcel". Notable fatcels include derrick (fatcel) and virgin messiah.

You can’t call yourself incelibate if you haven’t made an effort to exercise and thereby make yourself more appealing, or lost enough pounds to be at a healthy weight?. Fatcels are in fact hated by truecels. The main reason that fatcels are hated by truecels is because fatcels are actually Chadlite in disguise. Their disguise is the layer of fat, which if lost, removes the masquerade that they are in any way, shape or form associated with incelibacy. Fatcels undermine the plight of actual truecels who can‘t get laid no matter how much looksmaxxing they do. A real truecel can get muscular, shredded, fashionable, tanned and get a haircut but he would still face nonredamancy due to being a combination of mentalcel, uglycel, etc.

Fatcels self-describing as "incel" or "incelibate" or "truecel" causes harm and is actually a form of abuse against truecels who keep their weight in check. These abusive fatcels create the stereotype that permavirgin loveshies are actually voluntarily celibate because they‘re lazy pieces of shit who don‘t care about their hygiene. As such they give more ammo for the incelphobes or clueless noncels to continue with their chadsplaining platitude barrage. Actual blackpilled TFLers are irredeemable when it comes to success in dating, no matter what they do.

Andrew Anglin and other nazis #fundie broadly.vice.com

Can't Shake It Off: How Taylor Swift Became a Nazi Idol

Nazis and members of the "alt-right" consider Taylor Swift an Aryan pop queen who is “red pilling” America into a race war through her pop hits.

Every demographic chooses a pop icon. Gay men worship Cher, black women love Beyoncé, and neo-Nazis worship Taylor Swift, a skinny, blonde Pennsylvania girl that they have labeled an "Aryan Goddess." Nazis and members of the "alt right"—an Internet subculture that is best described as the venn diagram of hipster culture and white supremacy—have been spreading a conspiracy theory that Swift is a covert Nazi. They claim Swift's songs "red pilled" America into believing a conservative, racist agenda. (Taylor Swift's representative, a publicist named Tree Paine, did not return Broadly's request for comment.)

"Firstly, Taylor Swift is a pure Aryan goddess, like something out of classical Greek poetry. Athena reborn. That's the most important thing," explains Andre Anglin, the writer of the white supremacist blog the Daily Stormer. "It is also an established fact that Taylor Swift is secretly a Nazi and is simply waiting for the time when Donald Trump makes it safe for her to come out and announce her Aryan agenda to the world. Probably, she will be betrothed to Trump's son, and they will be crowned American royalty." (Swift is notoriously private about her political leanings, although, after Obama was elected, she told Rolling Stone, "I've never seen this country so happy about a political decision in my entire time of being alive. I'm so glad this was my first election.")

It's unclear when the white supremacists started writing blog posts about their Taylor Swift fandom. Anglin believes Swift Nazi memes may have existed since her "Teardrops on My Guitar" days. "Some believe it was meme magic that made her famous—though no one can be certain," he says. "We are certain that as soon as Nazis saw her, they were magnetically drawn to her sculpted Aryan form and angelic demeanor."

Breitbart columnist Milo Yiannopoulos believes the memes may have originated with a Pinterest user named @poopcutie, which was helmed by a teenage girl named Emily Pattinson. In 2013, she started pining memes attributing Adolf Hitler quotes to Swift to spoof memes that falsely attributed inspiring quotes to Marilyn Monroe. Pattinson emblazoned an image of Swift in a ball gown walking past trees with the Hitler quote: "As in everything, NATURE is the best instruction." BuzzFeed aggregated her posts without asking Pattinson for comment, and then Pattinson went viral. "Everyone wants to go viral," she says. She soon learned that short-lived Internet fame isn't what it's cracked up to be, when Swift's lawyer, J Douglas Baldridge, sent Pinterest a threatening letter, which Pattinson provided to Broadly. Part of the letter read as follows:

The association of Ms. Swift with Adolf Hitler undisputedly is 'harmful,' 'abusive,' 'ethnically offensive,' 'humiliating to other people,' 'libelous,' and no doubt 'otherwise objectionable.' It is of no import that Ms. Swift may be a public figure or that Pinterest conveniently now argues that the Offending Material is mere satire or parody. Public figures have rights. And, there are certain historical figures, such as Adolf Hitler, Charles Manson and the like, who are universally identified in the case law and popular culture as lightning rods for emotional and negative reaction.

Citing parody laws, Pinterest refused to take down the Hitler/Swift memes. "I didn't continue making the quote images, but I didn't delete my board either," Pattinson tells Broadly. In her wake, other Hitler/Swift meme accounts have popped up.

On Facebook, a group called Taylor Swift for Fascist Europe has over 18,000 likes. The group's community manager—who remains anonymous— tells Broadly in an email that he wishes "to preserve Europe" through fascism. "Not only has fascism traditionally opposed Marxism, rather than simple opposition to Communism in the spirit of many traditional conservative ideologies, but anti-Marxist principles are at the core of its ideology," he writes. "Only through the destruction of Marxism can Europe be restored to its former glory, and only fascism can ensure this destruction." Although he doesn't believe Swift is "red pilling" the masses, he says he believes that she embodies the Aryan "spirit."

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"Being Aryan is not simply a matter of blood, but it is also a matter of spirit," the community manager writes in an email to Broadly. "Take Kim Kardashian or Miley Cyrus as examples of this: both began their lives with the same Nordic blood that Swift did, but what makes these two degenerates unfit for consideration as fascist icons? It is because, although Aryan in blood, the two are not Aryan in spirit. To be Aryan in spirit is what completes the fascist."

Now, actual fascists adore Swift. The Daily Stormer has published 24 posts about Swift, including "Aryan Goddess Taylor Swift Accused of Racism for Behaving Like an Ape in a Music Video" and "Memification: Top Feminist Calls Taylor Swift a Nazi." As Yiannopoulos points out, blogger Michael Collins worries that Swift has "succumbed" to the "Merchant," which is Nazi code for "Jewish."

"It's incredible really that she's surrounded by these filthy, perverted Jews, and yet she remains capable of exuding 1950s purity, femininity and innocence," Anglin says. "She is the anti-Miley. While Miley is out having gang-bangs with colored gentlemen, she is at home with her cat reading Jane Austen."

Yiannopoulos writes that Swift works as an avatar for the ultra right because she comes across as a born conservative but also keeps politics out of her public identity. The blonde, pale star grew up in Pennsylvania, one of the original 13 colonies, while her father worked as a wealth manager and senior vice president of Merrill Lynch. She originally sang country music, the genre beloved by the same people who voted twice for George W. Bush.

Some of the alt-right's defenders argue that memes just exist to rankle and troll people—the "Taylor Swift for Fascist Europe" page, for example, is listed as a comedian on Facebook. Perhaps, but racist jokes often come out of racists' mouths. Nevertheless, Anglin's commitment to Swift's ascendance into the role of figurehead in the coming white supremacist uprising remains steadfast. "The entire alt-right patiently awaits the day when we can lay down our swords and kneel before her throne," Anglin says, "as she commands us to go forth and slaughter the subhuman enemies of the Aryan race."

Todd McMurtry #fundie cincinnati.com

The lawyers representing Covington Catholic High School student Nick Sandmann and his family said Friday they have sent letters to media outlets, individual journalists, celebrities and Catholic organizations as the first step in possible libel and defamation lawsuits.
The list includes 50-plus names of organizations or individuals: from presidential hopeful Elizabeth Warren to actress Alyssa Milano; individual journalists including Maggie Haberman, Ana Cabrera and David Brooks; national media outlets like the The New York Times, CNN, GQ and TMZ; and the dioceses of Covington and Lexington as well as the archdioceses of Louisville and Baltimore.
Nick, as well as his school, faced threats from those angered by video showing him, his classmates and Native Americans engaged in a much-debated confrontation. Some of the students wore "Make America Great Again" hats. Some students chanted and performed the tomahawk chop.
The legal counsel representing Nick and his family, Todd McMurtry and experienced libel and defamation lawyer L. Lin Wood of Atlanta, have said they will seek justice for the harm allegedly done to the teen.
McMurtry said an example of false reports were those saying Nick got into the face of Phillips.
McMurtry added his belief that some in the aftermath of the incident "permanently stained (Nick's) reputation."
McMurtry is with the law firm of Hemmer Defrank Wessels and has practiced law in Greater Cincinnati since 1991. He said a team of seven lawyers has been working full-time to review the media accounts of what happened.
This week they have prepared documentation preservation letters addressed to organizations and individuals they believe may have defamed or libeled Nick with false reporting, McMurtry said.
McMurtry said the following organizations and people are those who can expect to receive the letters, which were all sent by the close of business on Friday.

Alfred Winter #fundie fashthenation.com

There’s something of an adage within dissident right-wing circles that should be known by everyone who claims to be red-pilled on the Chosenites and their goy golems: “When everyone in the media and government, Left and Right, unites around a controversial issue or policy decision, it’s probably bullshit.”
Right on cue, just as public opinion on the Kovington Katholic Kids vs. Magic Native American Elder story had begun to clearly turn against its original coverage, another nonsensical hoax came rushing in to bolster the mainstream anti-white narrative.
Empire star Jussie Smollett, a 35-year old half-black, half-Jewish homosexual who is beloved within liberal circles owing to his LGBT advocacy and outspoken critiques of President Trump, was allegedly attacked by two white men in the wee hours of January 29th in Chicago. From Vogue:
“Smollett was in the Streeterville neighborhood of Chicago—when he was attacked by two people who were yelling racial and homophobic slurs, and who Smollett said shouted the phrase ‘MAGA country.’ At some point, according to police, they also poured an unknown substance on him, believed to be bleach, and forced a rope around his neck—Smollett was reportedly on the phone with his manager when the attack occurred. ‘I heard that clearly. I heard the scuffle and I heard the racial slur,’ the manager told Variety.”
Following the supposed attack, Smollett and his family released an official statement on Instagram, describing their beloved Jussie as:
“—the victim of a violent and unprovoked attack. We want to be clear, this was a racial and homophobic hate crime—We want people to understand these targeted hate crimes are happening to our sisters, brothers and our gender non-conforming siblings, many who reside within the intersection of multiple identities, on a monthly, weekly, and sometimes even daily basis all across our country. Oftentimes ending fatally, these are inhumane acts of domestic terrorism and they should be treated as such—We, as a family, will continue to work for love, equity and justice until it reigns supreme in our nation and all over the world.”
The supposed hate crime has since had dozens of Chicago police officers and national FBI agents allocated to its investigation. Considering that more than 20 people, mostly black, are murdered in Chicago every weekend, this seems like a misallocation of resources at best. Blue-check journalists and several Democratic presidential candidates rushed to condemn the supposed “hate crime,” which was described as such in published articles by dozens of media outlets, led first and foremost by the ADL and TMZ. Even President Trump weighed in as a result of backlash fears over the alleged “This is MAGA country” comment of the attackers. In response to questions on January 31st, Trump said of the event, “I can tell you that it’s horrible. It doesn’t get worse.”
In nearly identical fashion to the Covington debacle, even borderline wrong-think media outlets like American Thinker have refused to confront the implicit anti-white nature of the Smollett hoax. The site merely notes in its coverage that, “Much like in ‘The Truth About The Lincoln Memorial Incident,’ accurate reporting can come only with time, but that didn’t stop media figureheads from lambasting all Trump-supporters, again.”
The extreme bias and visceral hatred on display in mainstream coverage of such stories does not simply stem from journalists being too gung-ho to move forward with a story before having all of the evidence, however. It’s laughable to claim that said journalists are actually motivated by a search for the truth, while occasionally falling prey to over-zealousness in very human fashion. What actually happened is that the media fell all over themselves in their condemnation because the suspects were believed to be white men. Their description as Trump supporters who shouted “MAGA country” is an obvious proxy for whiteness, which could only have been made clearer by the addition of the infamous red hats. Perhaps that would have been a little too on the nose, however. As with the Covington case, the explicit racial nature of the Smollett hoax is a blood libel against the white race, designed to reinforce the notion that all whites, especially men, are subject to sudden bouts of identity-motivated violence at any moment. If whites are subject to such outbursts on a daily basis, as these people claim, then it is entirely morally justifiable for the State and entire GloboHomo apparatus to subdue us.
Judging from the fallout over this story in the past few days, though, the Left may have slightly overplayed its hand with the rapid succession of both the Covington and Jussie Smollett hoaxes. It was reported Thursday that Smollett had refused to turn over his phone records to police, and liberal outrage coverage over this story has now been largely relegated to hilarious black outlets like The Root and HotNewHitHop. But make no mistake, our enemies are merely biding their time until their next anti-white attack. Judging by the breakneck pace of 2019 so far, look for it to occur sometime this week.

Chinese authorities #fundie theguardian.com

Revealed: 17 Australian residents believed detained in China's Uighur crackdown

Exclusive: Activists urge embassy to ‘tell us if they’re alive or dead’ amid claims of inaction by Canberra

Seventeen Australian residents are believed to be under house arrest, in prison or detained in China’s secretive “re-education” centres in Xinjiang, the Guardian can reveal.

The 17 cases – 15 Australian permanent residents and two on spouse visas – have been collected by Nurgul Sawut, an advocate for Uighurs in Australia, through interviews with their family members.

The individuals are believed to have been detained while on trips to China visiting relatives. Many have children or spouses who are Australian citizens.

It is difficult to confirm their fates, given the secretive nature of the camps, but Sawut believes one of the group is in prison, four are under house arrest, and the remaining 12 are in detention centres.

Advocates for Australia’s 3,000-strong Uighur community are calling on the government in Canberra to secure the release of the detainees. Shadow foreign minister, Penny Wong, has urged the government to investigate.

At the same time, members of Australia’s Uighur population have reported serious harassment by Chinese authorities on Australian soil, including intimidating phone calls and requests to send over personal data, with the threat of reprisals against family if they do not comply.

Penny Wong, Labor’s spokeswoman on foreign affairs, said her party was “particularly concerned” by reports of Uighurs who were Australian residents being detained. She said: “Engagement with China is very important to Australia but, as with any other country, it never means we abandon our values, or our sovereignty.”

In response to a list of questions about the detention of the 17 residents and the treatment of Uighurs in Xinjiang, a spokesperson for the Chinese embassy in Canberra said: “It is a wish shared by people of all ethnic groups for Xinjiang to maintain enduring social stability, since it serves their fundamental interests. The series of measures implemented in Xinjiang are meant to improve stability, development, solidarity and people’s livelihood, crack down on and prevent ethnic separatist activities and violent and terrorist crimes, safeguard national security, and protect people’s life and property.”

The missing

Dilmurat Tursun, 52, is among those missing. The Australian permanent resident had lived in Sydney since 2011. In 2017 he took a trip to China with his wife, Dilbar Abdurahaman. Once inside the country, family members say their passports were confiscated and pair were unable to return home. In 2018 Tursun disappeared.

He is believed to have been taken into a detention centre. His wife is trapped in China under house arrest and lives in fear that she too will be taken to a camp.

“I feel desperate and a sense of hopelessness,” said Abdurahaman’s sister Zulfiyah Kurash. “The only crime we can think of [that led to his imprisonment] is that he came to Australia and has relatives here.”

Other Uighur Australians have spoken of their difficulty in getting politicians to take their situation seriously.

Jurad Addukerin, 53, from Sydney, visited Canberra with some members of the World Uighur Congress in 2018 to meet MPs, but arrived during one of the Liberal party’s leadership contests.

“I felt they were not very serious about this conversation, they said they were very busy because they were in the middle of this other thing,” Addukerin said. “I hope that since 3 million people are being detained illegally and may be facing genocide — that politicians should do more, should raise their voice about this issue, instead of not doing anything or saying anything.”

‘We cannot live free, even if we live here’

Uighurs in Australia continue to detail harassment by the Chinese authorities.

On Christmas Day, Rashida Abdughupur was at a picnic at Victor Harbour, south of Adelaide, with other members of the Uighur community when she received a video call through the messaging service WeChat. It was the Chinese police, who turned the phone around to show that they had Abdughupur’s mother handcuffed at a police station, she said. They told Abdughupur they would take her mother to the camps unless she gave them information.

Terrified, Abdughupur showed them her driver’s licence, passport, visa and Medicare card, which shows her children’s names.

“After that, the police said don’t ring your mum, they deleted her account, so I don’t know if she’s in the camp or not. I was just sitting there crying, I didn’t know what to say,” she said.

More than a dozen Uighurs in Australia have told the Guardian of intimidation and harassment from the Chinese authorities.

Ali*, 34, received a call from a family member in 2017, who told him she would be sent to the camps unless he sent copies of his children’s birth certificates and passports, as well as where they went to school, where the family lived and where he and his wife worked.

“We cannot live free, even if we are living in Australia,” he said.

Several Uighurs told the Guardian they had received calls purporting to be from the Chinese embassy in Canberra, or a Chinese consulate telling them to come in to collect a parcel or package.

One person received 10 such calls over the course of a month, despite being an Australian citizen with no connection to China except that he was married to a Uighur woman.

Another said he received four calls from a Canberra-based number telling him to come to the embassy, despite being an Australian citizen who had lived in Australia for 15 years.

The Chinese embassy in Canberra said: “The Chinese Embassy in Australia has never made the phone calls you mentioned. Last year, the Chinese embassy, AFP and ACT Police urged members of the Chinese community to be aware of the scam calls targeting Chinese nationals.”

Barefoot Soul #fundie christiannews.net

Really - it helped improve "metal health"?

Obviously didn't work in your case.

Tell you what, miss - we'll start feeling guilty when you gays stop infecting and killing each other with AIDS. And you never will. Since you don't value each other's lives, you have no right to ask us to value your lives. You treat each other like garbage. Clean up your own "community" and stop scapegoating decent God-fearing Americans who do you no harm at all. It's a pretty sorry excuse for a "community" to engage in self-genocide, and that is what the LGBTXYZ "community" has been doing for over 30 yrs. I would not want to be part of a "community" of people who destroy each other's lives with diseases.

Jacob Harrison #fundie kiwifarms.net

@BillionBisonBucks

Yeah, that would be the 'guns-to-heads' bit I mentioned.

Also, you are incredibly uncharismatic. Do you have any followers? Do you have any plans to develop the skills and resources to attract them? Because brother, this ain't it.

It wouldn't be guns to head. What I am saying is that the members of parliament themselves will be secret agents of my society.
What will help me gain followers will be when I marry @pomme and move to England. There I can gain supporters within the United Kingdom Independence Party. And me and Pomme's children can convince their friends to join my society. I can also get Scots to join the society by promising the Scots independence when the true king is restored, because the true heir to the throne of England is not the heir to Scotland. My society can establish a youth wing similar to the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts that can teach children about the true king. While I may not see the true king restored in my lifetime, my descendants will multiply, and the society will gradually grow larger so the plan will eventually be fulfilled.

Jacob Harrison #fundie kiwifarms.net

(Follow-up on this quote)

@Senior Lexmechanicus

1. Incorrect. The nations I listed above had continent-spanning trade routes, walled cities, complex legal codes, and diplomatic channels. If Rome was an advanced civilization, so were they.
2. None of these reasons are rational, especially the idea that America is culturally Anglo-Saxon, therefore you must work to enact the rightful king of England and grant him absolute power, but not extend his throne to America despite their cultural linkage. Once again, and I want to stress I'm not meming here, this comes off as an autistic fixation.


Genuine question: do you understand the difference between legal, moral, and socially tolerable?

1. But they did not have a system of writing before the English colonists came. And their system of government was still at the tribal level because they had chiefs instead of kings.
2. It makes sense not to extend his throne to America because America was never territory of England during the time period that the legitimate kings ruled England. The true king therefore only has a claim to the territory that England had back in 1399 when Richard II was overthrown.
3. I understand the different definitions but they often go hand in hand. It is a moral duty to obey the law. And what is socially tolerable changes throughout history. While absolute monarchy is socially intolerable in England today, it was socially tolerable back in medieval England and it will become socially tolerable again, when England enters a golden age of prosperity and the education system will teach children to be loyal to the king.

@Senior Lexmechanicus

1. Actually, the chiefdom was an electoral position in most of the "civilized" tribes (Algonquin, Iroquois, Cherokee): decisions were made by a council of respected community members, with the "peace chief" (the word used would be better translated as "respected elder") acting as a mediator. In times of war, the "war chief" (once again, the word would better translate as "mighty man" or "great man") would suspend ordinary council operations until the war was over. You may realize this bears a striking resemblance to a republican system: specifically, the senators and dictator of the Roman Republic. Indeed, the "Great Law of Peace" of the Iroquois Nation was used alongside Roman Republican philosophy in inspiring the Constitution. So, in essence, you're saying they were illegitimate because they didn't write things down (because they didn't need to, because they had a deep oral tradition kept by the priesthood, much like the early Angles from whom the entire institution of the "king of England" extends). But not only did the "illegitimate" government of England recognize them as legitimate states, but the "legitimate" governments of France, Holland, Portugal, and Spain as well.
3. And why would this happen? And saying "because the True King will be on the throne" isn't an answer: the belief that a True King can cure dropsy with a touch and will make all right by the mere presence of his arse on the throne is based in Catholic religious beliefs that you no longer hold.

1. Well those tribes were within the established borders of the United States and previously within the established territories of the other colonial powers, so they were nations within a nation. The US later expanded it's territory out west with treaties such the Louisiana Purchase. And when the Anglo Saxons came to England, they already had a writing system called runes which were replaced by the Latin Alphabet by the 9th century.
2. The true king will bring prosperity by implementing a full Brexit, making England fully economically independent and not burdened by European Union regulations. There will also be economic protectionism in foreign trade to protect England's industries. There will be an end to usury since usury was illegal in medieval England. And as I said, there will be an end to open borders to stop Muslims from bringing in terrorism and sharia law, and England's demographic will be saved through traditional family values, and the encouragement of procreation.

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

NATIONAL DAY OF MOURNING, February 23

Day Of Mourning-Join us February 23rd for 'A National Day of Mourning.' - WEAR BLACK - DON'T SHOP - CLOSE BUSINESSES - REPENT FOR ABORTION TIME TO STAND BRETHREN AND SUPPORT!

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Mick Williams #fundie disqus.com

"If They Could Talk"

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Transcript:
Baby (thinking): QUICK - Is this Virginia, or New York?
Voice: Welcome to South Carolina, little one!
Baby (thinking): Thank the Almighty!!

Mick Williams:
He didn't dodge it by much. Virginia and North Carolina have fallen to the left. Three main reasons:
1) The MIA church
2) The communist media, which gave zero coverage to the Northam scandal. Locally, the media bent over backwards to portray it as a smear campaign.
3) Voter apathy, which elected Northam.

Texas Cowboy:
Great "cartoon." What a horrible thing abortion is.

cwill:
The babe made it out of the womb in one piece but it‘s not out of the woods yet. Now the gender has to be decided...boy — girl —both — neither ?

Mick Williams:
He's probably just south enough to escape that nonsense.

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