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Bryan Fischer #fundie #homophobia #quack

“God's design is one sexual partner for life.”
Then if my wife dies in childbirth, shouldn’t my dick atrophy?
I mean, I’ve had sex. I still find other women sexually attractive. Not a very good design.
Also, I think of Onan being directed to screw his dead brother’s widow. So, not entirely the design.
Also, Lot having two daughters who both fucked him?
And King Solomon, of course…
Where do you read this design spec?

“Now, in the homosexual community, the average homosexual has hundreds of sexual partners over the course of a lifetime.”
Yes, and I fully believe every single person who answers surveys is totally honest and trustworthy.
Just like every sailor that bragged on how many women he fucked in the last port we were in, how many he’d fuck in the next… TOTALLY trustworthy statistics.

“Hundreds.”
Uh huh.

“ Some of them have between 500 and 1000 and there are any number of homosexuals, and they admit this in their own literature, have more then a 1000 sexual partners.”
Why in the fuck would anyone care if they don’t meet God’s rules about sexual partnerships? According to you, they shouldn’t be gay,anyway.
Like, they’re ignoring the rules (which you allude to but cannot show) written by the guy that wrote the other rules they’re ignoring…?

“Now they're talking about numerous sexual encounters on the same night.”
I drove a friend home from a party. he passed out before ever hooking up with anyone. Next day, he SWORE he’d scored.

“Now, in order to do that, they've got to take drugs to enhance the experience and to make it possible to have numerous encounters on the same night.”
Ah. So you NOTICE that it’s kind of unlikely, huh?
But still take it as gospel?
What a fucking idiot.

“These drugs are called "poppers," is the street name for them. They're amyl nitrites, alkyl nitrites ...”
It’s not the drugs that are called poppers, idiot, it’s the delivery method.
You know JUST enough to demonstrate that you don’t know shit.
Doesn’t shut you up, but you suuuuuuuuuuuuuuure don’t know what you’re talking about.

“So he suggests that this is the cause of AIDS: it's the rampant promiscuity, coupled with this drug use.”
Dude, rampant promiscuity is not contagious.
If that were the cause of the symptoms, they would not be transferred by blood or blood products.
You’re even dumber than I thought.

Inceljoe #sexist

worship4ever #fundie

“Get your head out of your butts and start looking at things from an objective manner.”
You’re a creationist. You don’t DARE look at things objectively, you might suffer DOUBT.

“Darwin himself stated that his theory could be proven wrong if some things in science could be found, they have.”
I think that’s backwards.
I believe he said that if he was right, science WOULD eventually find things. And those have been found. For example, he believed traits were passed down,but he didn’t know about DNA. We know about DNA. It makes his theory much better.

“What you people have done is taken the theory of evolution and applied it to every aspect of science.”
No. The Theory is about biology.
True, there are plenty of science disciplines that confirm many aspects of evolution. And the idea of ‘trial and error,’ which is the process of mutation/Natural selection, can be applied in many instances. But that’s not quite looking at, say, mail delivery routes as part of the Theory Of Evolution.

“You think the universe is evoling,”
If you mean ‘evolving’ as in ‘change over time,’ then yes, it is.
If you think the theory of evolution is used to predict stellar formation, you need to go back to school.

“plantets, space, cells, animals, humans, everything, its stupid.”
It’s.

“ I feel sorry for you guys.”
I’m not going to think about you again once I hit Add comment.

The End #sexist

“The main thing that women want is good looks, and they will tolerate being treated like shit by Chad. We know women enjoy being treated roughly, and even degraded, when having sex; so maybe being treated badly is something they enjoy even outside sex.”
I think you’re drawing the wrong conclusions from being outside and looking it.

Every single woman I’ve ever met in an abusive relationship waited far too long to leave. Not because they enjoyed it, but because they thought they had to. Fear that they would be blamed for the relationship failing, fear that her family would take his side, fear that she’d be judged as ‘used,’ that she’d have difficulty with the next relationship.

Every single one that’s left has survived. Prospered. NOT been asked ‘why did you fail’ but told ‘Thank GOD, it’s about time!’
And I KNOW they didn’t enjoy being mistreated because in EVERY relationship that followed, their man got a lot fewer chances. My boss? She had a series of boyfriends that made one mistake and got kicked to the curb.
I would not suggest being their learning experience out of a mistaken belief they wanted what you want to give them.

NOVA #homophobia #racist

I occurs to me that with one simple trick…

If they changed the one-drop rule to be that ANY white heritage made you white:
1. The number of whites could only increase in the future.
2. You can claim all rap music and it’s not even culture appropriation.
3. We’d still have an unbroken history of white presidents.
4. Most of the people asking for Reparations would qualify as white, so you could refuse them on that basis.

“The POSTERITY of our people:
1. End the racial replacement of White Americans”
How do you plan on doing that?

“We call for an end to the racial replacement of White Americans. We believe it is the birthright of White Americans to maintain our demographic majority in the nation our forebears built and bequeathed to us.”
Why?
Those forebearers ARE the ones who imported blacks,yellows, browns, Irish,Italian, to BUILD the country you say they built. Martin Luther King is as much their legacy as you are.

“We will no longer tolerate our replacement numerically or in representation.
Sure. Because you can just WILL the wrong people to not reproduce.

“2. Massive media reform: End of the propagation of White guilt,”
I tend not to feel white guilt,but then, I do not identify all that strongly with white racists.

“pornography,”
Yes, yes, it’s not like it’s been around for all of human history, it’s just a recent fad. Uh huh. You HAVE that sort of control. Sure.

“We call for an end to the accessibility and normalization of pornography, which has deeply damaged the sexual health and gender relations of our people.”
This isn’t going to work.
Most of the power porn gets is from the taboo. No one lines up to see married couples have missionary sex at the middle of the bed. They want to see the forbidden. Anal, interracial, bondage.
You’re going to make interracial porn even MORE taboo, therefore it’ll have a higher impact AS porn,therefore it’ll be more sought after.
And if you can get society to go along with your efforts, then it’ll be the rebellious generation that’ll run off to Massachusetts to get married JUST to spite you, and to make Grandma throw up.

Llauralin #fundie

Some people have been waiting 2000 years for the resurrection. Their bodies made it to dust a long time ago, without cremation. Yet the promise is that we all rise from the grave ‘without blemish.’
That would include rotting corpses, bare bones, dust, and ashes, at least to my mind.

Bro. Randy #sexist

“Mat 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.”
Yeah, I remember Carter’s Playboy interview. Still voted for him.

“Jesus is plainly saying that if a man looks at a woman and lusts after her, he has committed adultery with her already.”
So glad you translated that for our benefit… Couldn’t have parsed it without you.
I mean, you COULD have just said, “He speaks plainly.” But you went the extra mile to… repeat it.
So dedicated.

“One of the definitions of 'with' is: So as to be touching or joined to.”
Yeah, but the hard line fact of the matter is that my wife allows me to look. We were both sailors and she knows (some of) what goes on in a liberty port. I can look at strippers without getting divorced.
Her line was touching. If i touched a stripper, then I had to burn any part of my body off that had touched another woman before I went home.
And thinking of her does not actually violate the no-touching rule.

“The clear point is that Jesus is saying they are both guilty of adultery.”
Why is the woman guilty of adultery if she is NOT looking at me with lust in her heart? This makes no sense. I mean, unless you’re a chauvinist pig and blame women for your lack of self-control… Oh.

“The reason for the man's guilt is obvious. The woman's guilt is not as clear. She has set a trap for him - she has enticed him.”
Not every woman I’ve looked at and found attractive has been trying to seduce me. Or even to excite me. OR even to interest me. Some, like coworkers at my business, or senior officers when I was in the Navy, just want both of us to do a job.
You’re just being sexist.

“Now, the sad thing is: the average, seemingly moral high school girl is more revealing in her attire than the harlot of Proverbs 7.”
When I was in 8th grade, my parents divorced and my mother moved to Atlanta.
When I was in 11th grade, she and her boyfriend decided that I had to have the experience of seeing prostitutes in their natural habitat.
I don’t know why they thought that we didn’t have prostitutes in Idaho, and they didn’t seem to see any as we drove around downtown.
I saw a BUNCH of prostitutes. To me, their dress was not just provocative, it was a clear ‘come here and fuck me’ advertisement. Not at all like the girls… okay, most of the girls in my high school. The intention was clear. As opposed to you just seeing skin and blaming the girl for your hard-on. Naughty, naughty, brother randy.
Later, in the Navy, I saw WAY more prostitutes and the clear intent of their costuming was more pronounced in direct proportion to the proximity of the Naval base.
But I could definitely tell the difference between hookers in Charleston and college girls on the beach in Cocoa Beach. Your perversion may vary.

“Even more sad is the fact that these girls are causing men around them to commit adultery with them by the way they dress.”
No they are not.
Men will fantasize about a woman no matter what she’s wearing, if they find anything attractive at all. I’ve known some hot nuns, too.
But you can’t admit to any guilt about your own feelings, so you blame the women.
Doubt it’d fool God,buddy.

Jason Lisle #fundie

“atheism is itself a religion – by definition – since it is “a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe.””

Um, no.
Atheism is the opposite of theism.
Theism isn’t a religion, it’s the umbrella term for all religions.
Atheism is not part of theism, by definition.

And atheism is not a ‘set of beliefs’ you twat waffle. It’s the lack of belief in any deity. It does not force a belief in evolution, or the big bang, or communism, or capitalism, or Last Tuesdayism. We can always say that, like any apologist for God, we find the arguments for the Big Bang, or the 14 billion year universe, or heliocentrism to be unconvincing.

Raza #fundie

“First of all, you have to look at all the possible choices you have with a wife who neglects the kids, no meals after you come from work etc...
1) Divorce her
2) Stick with her
3) Hit her”

Short list. Last night, on my wife’s turn to cook, she just wasn’t in the mood to cook dinner. We had pizza.

Of course, I could always cook dinner, too. I have two nights a week. Divorce isn’t on the list until seriously later in the process.

Stick with her is pretty much the standard, not a choice. Marriage is work and we both need to contribute.

And fucking HELL, how is ‘hit her’ even on the list?
My wife would leave me for even suggesting that one of my options was to hit her.
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck. Why marry someone if you think you might have to hit her?
And then what will you do? Go to sleep while she’s still in the house?

Jim #sexist #dunning-kruger #crackpot

“Everyone longs for and seeks the ancestral environment of survival and successful reproduction[…]”
An awful lot of my ancestors died in childbirth. Or just died of being kids before vaccinations were common. I do not long for that sort of existence. Even if I survived, i’d be scarred by someone else dying of polio.

“It is the intention of nature and the will of nature’s God that resources shall be transferred from men to women[…]”
Or I marry her and we share resources. But you do your god’s will, sure.

“No one will plant trees or build on land he does not own,”
Pistachios, when planted, can take 15 to 20 years to become economically mature. It’s said, therefore, that he who plants pistachios does not harvest pistachios.
A businessman was walking along and saw an elderly monk planting pistachio trees. “Are you a fool?” the businessman asked. “There is no way you’ll live long enough to gather the nuts.”
The monk stood up, leaned on his shovel, and said, “Young man, eat a fat dick. I’m an old man and I can do whatever I want with my trees.”
If you’re only interested in profit, you may be right..
But not everyone is motivated by profit.

“so for the necessary transfer of resources to take place, women must be the property of men,”
Yeah, again, I’m not in our relationship to profit.
I don’t see raising a family as an investment.

"and children must be the property of their mothers and fathers, the boys till they are old enough to become independent, the girls till they are old enough to become the property of their husbands”
Slavery is SO 18th century…

“For women, successful reproduction was accomplished when they were owned by a man, and used as his instrument of reproduction.”
I don’t own my wife, and all three of our children have grown to adulthood. One has a daughter. He doesn’t own his wife, either.

"In the ancestral environment, before agriculture, the stable isotope ratios in the bones indicate that humans lived primarily on meat, including the meat of other predators. We were the apex predator[…]”
Dude, we were scavengers. That’s why we’re omnivores, not carnivores.
We ate roadkill. Teethmarks of really Early humans are found on bones after the predators were done.

“And when I say “humans” were the apex predator, I mean of course, men[…]”
I’ve already noticed that you are cherry picking the science. So, yeah, whatever.

Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan #fundie

“What the Bible is saying is that one who does not believe is both stupid and blind.”
Noted.
I mean, I’d have to have some reason to think that what the Bible says is meaningful to me. I do not. So, you know, insult away from your confident, smug position.

“ He does not see what there is to see.”
Oh, I see what’s there. I just don’t see any justification for you assigning it to your skybeast for credit.

“Not only is he blind, but he is also likely to act blindly.”
‘blind,’ here, meaning ‘NOT IAW your superstition.’ Got it.

“ He does not recognize any purpose in existence,”
that’s incorrect. I just don’t recognize any externally assigned purpose.

“ and is therefore likely to act without direction.”
Have you ever MET an atheist?

“ He does not recognize Truth,”
No, i do not believe that everything YOU say is truth is anything more than you being credulous.

“ and is apt to do everything wrong.”
Everything, huh?
I’ve never cheated on my wife.
I’ve never beaten my kids.
We live well within our means.
I had a security clearance that was above Top Secret and never violated national security.
Never smoked, never used illicit drugs, only drunk once in high school despite making several port visits in the Navy…

I think you’re talking out your ass, here.

“He is so unperceptive that he cannot be trusted.”
Above Top Secret for 20 years, Secret right now.

“ He says that there is no God because he is a fool.”
No. I say I have no reason to believe in any gods. Your conviction isn’t convincing.

“He is too blind to see God all around him;”
Meh. You’re overimpressed by complexity, I’d guess?

“ or else he is too selfish to share his own world with its Creator.”
Give me a reason to think there IS a creator to share it with…

“In the entire Bible, you will not find a single philosophical argument for the existence of God.”
Most apologist posts, too.
People believe because they were trained to believe before they really thought about it, and don’t know how to question it.
I had questions. No one could answer them, and mostly they blamed me for ASKING the questions. Left the church, and somewhere in my search for God, realized I’d lost all interest.

“It is simply assumed.”
Well, yeah. If they published a decent argument, they might have to face a decent rebuttal.

“ The Bible does not waste time trying to convince the atheist that he is wrong.”
The bible is not for the atheist, nor aremost apologists. Ray Comfort, for example, only appears to argue against Atheists, but he’s really just convincing his flock that there ARE decent arguments.

“He is considered a fool, too dull to understand, or too wicked to want to.”
Yeah, that’s me. I do crossword puzzles in ink because I’m a dullard.
I worked a suicide hotline because it’s all about me.

Waiting4Jesus #fundie

“There is no doubt in my mind that this happened 'cuz, as I said, I would trust this pastor with my own life, he is not a liar!”
I am absolutely certain that’s how he remembers it.
I do not, however, credit it as historical.

Lookismisreal #sexist

“Inceldom cannot be compared with rape because rape is nothing compared to being Incel in the slightest.”
Dude, you didn’t even finish THE SENTENCE before you compared inceldom to rape.
Not only are you delusional, self-centered, and stupid, but you’re also VERY stupid.

“When it comes to rape, femoids bring it on themselves. … Which is why, rape cannot be compared with Inceldom.”
He said, comparing inceldom to rape.

“Incels don't bring Inceldom on themselves,”
Yes, you do. You’re misogynistic little trolls that join community with even worse trolls to champion hate, rape, abuse, sexism, slavery, and anything else you can imagine, stewing in your hate and frustration rather than trying to change ANYTHING to get out of that status.

“nor do we have certain things we could avoid so we don't turnout as Incels.”
Ah. And if women didn’t dress slutty there would be no rape?
Too bad that women who wear burqas get raped, spoiling your entire point.

“Why? Because how we look is predetermined and completely out of our control.”
See, that fatalism is you concentrating on what you can’t change so you don’t have a reason to change anything you COULD change.

oldwiseguy #fundie

“The finished product would have revealed this as well. You have to visualize the perfection that was the earth before the rebellion. It's orbit would have been perfectly circular, with no tilt in axis.”
But other literalists insist that God MADE the earth with the tilt and the elliptical orbit so that we’d have seasons, thus perfect with his plan.

Are you guys just making shit up?

“No harsh winter, a tropical climate with abundant plant life.”
Except, biblically, plants aren’t alive.
Only animals that breathe through their nostrils are alive.
Not butterflies, fish, trees, fungi, ants…

getstryker #fundie

“Did I read it - NO!”
Okay, okay, don’t gask a blowet.

“Am I ignorant as you obviously imply - NO!”
I have the doubt, snuggles.

“Have I ever researched the subject, read books, inquired and sought answers - YES!”
You know that ‘research’ is a significant effort, right? Not just goggling something or scanning a creationist site…

“Conclusion - when it comes to 'hard science' - that is: computers, cars, medicine, etc., you betcha - science is great.”
it’s the same science, bubbles. And most of what you’re referring to is the engineering.

“When it comes to the 'coulda , woulda, mighta, shoulda, with a definite maybe thrown in of evolutionary science, or whatever you want to call it,'”
Aw, it went over your head, huh?

“it's ALL nothing more than wild guesses, speculation, lies and fraud”
Yeah, let’s scroll back to ‘implying that you’re ignorant.’ I’mma go ahead and specify, you are incredibly ignorant.

“there are NO provable 'missing links,”
No one uses ‘missing links’ anymore. That’s OBE.
Good job on your ‘research.’

“ no evolution in the sense that small changes over time produce different species,”
Speciation has been observed. But you researched and you know that?
Evolution has been observed. But you researched…?

“It's ALL tax-supported religion.”
Not even kind of.

“In truth, I prefer my own beliefs in a God that created it all in 6 days!”
I don’t really care if you prefer a fairy tale, don’t pretend it’s better supported than the shit you don’t understand even slightly.

“You and your friends can believe whatever you like. It's a free country (at least for a while longer) We're done here!”
Okay! Run away little pony! B’bye!

RetroSpriteResources #sexist

“Yes, women can rape asexual guys, but they cannot rape straight guys.”
You must have an interesting fantasy life. There aren’t ANY women you’d rather not have sex with?
Ever watch Crocodile Dundee at that party with the socialite?
What if your grandmother at 5 pounds of green M&Ms and stuck her tongue down your throat at your goodnight kiss?

“Being a straight man means you want sex ALL THE TIME from women.”
I’m committed to my wife and don’t want sex from any woman except her.
Even a playmate. I mean, it’s a fun fantasy, but I would not willingly cheat on my wife.

“I'm sorry, but that's just a fact.”
Sorry, not sorry, but there’s a reason some virgins are unable to write decent sex scenes in their Veggie Tales fanfiction.

Sarah Nyberg #racist

““White nationalism is ‘racist’ in the same sense that feminism is ‘sexist,'” she said.”
Not true. A feminist wants rights for women EVEN IF her mother had sex with a chauvinist. There’s no ‘one drop rule’ for women. White Nationalists only want to promote pure whites, not mostly white, or reasonably white, or apparently white until you see a picture of their grandmother…

“I’m mad at [other IRC users] for buying into everything the media says regarding white nationalism when they rant so often about the media skewing pedophile stuff.”
Whataboutism is noted, weighed, rejectified.

“You can be proud of being white without hating other races,”
Hypothetically, but I’ve never seen it in any meaningful way.
White Nationalists are very exclusive. One drop of black blood disqualifies, or dating anyone with black blood, or any comment about finding a black actor/actress attractive, or any other trigger.

“Nyberg continued. “You can be concerned with white issues without wanting to kill the n****rs.”
Racism is not defined as ‘wanting to kill members of a particular race’ or ‘kill members of any race except one.’

Just considering them ‘white issues’ is racist you fuck.

Soldier for Salvation #fundie

“I bet they behaved themselfs a lot better than ppl today do.”
Very strict parents always believe they’re teaching their kids good morals, good behavior, good choices.
In my experience, they’re teaching the kids not go get caught.
Seriously, the kid in my high school with the BEST weed was the Bishop’s kid.

Same thing in the Navy, the most martinat the officer, the more carefully the division hid the truth from him.

And as George Carlin pointed out in one of his routines, as long as you used the right words, the priests took your word for it that you’d behaved.

“I would like to see us get back to this type of governance.”
Are you SUUUUUUUUUUUUURE?
What if that ‘governance’ was under the control of muslims?
Or Mormons?
Wiccans?
One of the first church/state separation lawsuits was Catholic parents upset that their kids were being taught Baptists prayers in school…

various commenters #wingnut

“@Carryingmarine JUST REFUSE TO BE TAKEN.
DIE LIKE A MAN AND TAKE AS MANY WITH YOU AS YOU CAN.”
Yeah, that’ll show them the error of their ways.

“MAKE IT COSTLY.”
And force them to take guns away, ammo.

“THE ARRESTS WILL STOP.”
You’re going to justify what they would have had to lie about? Good on you.

OneNewsNow (comments) #fundie

“families cannnot have 2 incomes and send there kids to "pagan" school and expect godly results.”
Why not?
The school gets your kid for 8 hours a day. One hour is lunch and going between classes. A single teacher gets your kid for an hour, maybe two if there’s a lab period. So even if the English teacher is a real Satanist, that’s less than 10 hours a week.
YOU have them for 128 hours per week. Surely your god can overcome anything the Satanist can do with that kind of advantage, right?
Unless YOUR faith is weak, then it doesn’t matter if you hide them at home, you’re not going to teach them actual strength.

TastyFish #moonbat

“[...] Free speech has to be absolute.”
You’re an anarchist, you claim.
I don’t think you should promote free speech. The entire concept is based on the idea that someone CAN limit my speech, but chooses not to.
You should just promote speech, because no one can limit it.

However, any recognized ‘right’ can only go so far before it harms someone else. I do not believe anyone has a right to harm another.
So free speech should not protect slander, libel, Justin Bieber, or hateful ideologies.

“Holocaust denial should not be illegal.”
Is there a non-hateful reason to deny the Holocaust? I fear that the only motive in doing so is to enable it to happen again.

“Censorship is always wrong,”
Nope.
Trump met with Putin, and three days later asked for a list of all US agents and spies. Shortly after he got that, people on that list started getting killed and arrested and exiled.
That’s a really blatant example of why some information should be kept out of the wrong hands.
Another example is posting a person’s credit card number online.

“possesion and sharing of any kind of information, including any type of pornography, has to be legal and moral.”
Speaking as a sub vet whose location was, at times, above top secret, I cannot agree out of sheer self-defense.

“I agree with Richard Stallman on his views about child sexuality and pornography.”
Good for you. Take a stand. Just, stand over there, please. WAAAAAAAAAY over there.

“Pedophilia is a sexual orientation and is completely natural,”
Okay. Leprosy is also completely natural.

“it is not a disorder, it should be morally and legally accepted.”
Problem is, it encourages sex with people who cannot consent. Rape is harm.
I can accept that you are attracted to minors.
I cannot accept that you should face no consequences to this attraction, such as not being employable in the school system, in a pediatric hospital, in child care, or child services.

Samuel #fundie

“Did Charlie make a monkey out of you?”
No, but taxonomy makes me a vertebrate, a mammal, a primate, an ape…

“Do you think you should be living in a zoo?”
Yeah, saw that movie. Looked cool.
Or did you mean as an exhibit? Saw that episode of, IIRC, Twilight Zone, too. Not so cool.

“Don’t you know that it’s a lie?”
No, I do not.

“When it comes your turn to die,”
Seems to come to us all, yes.

“You’ll find out you’re not a monkey, but a fool!”
Kinda early for you to be crowing victory now, isn’t it? Maybe you’re the fool?
Maybe the only god is Gozer, Christainity is something he invented to make sure no one could stop him next time?

bibleguy321 #fundie

"while believers in Evolution,”
It’s a science. Do you ‘believe’ in electricity? Heavier than air flight? Bernoulli principle? Or do you just accept the science?

“in order for their theory to work, have to believe something has always existed.”
No, you’re wrong. Evolution only concerns life since it’s begun on this planet. Doesn’t really change evolution if the universe is 1 minute older or 1 trillion years older or infinitely older.

“Creationism holds to the fact”
The creationism FACT?
No arrogance there….

“that for the most part, basically, all natural laws have remained constant, while Evolutionists hold to the fact that the laws of nature change.”
They’re the same laws, idiot. Laws humans have invented to try to understand the Universe. The laws change as our understanding of the universe grows.
Such as Aristotle’s first law of motion, all things in motion eventually come to rest. Is that true? Constant?

robroys woman #fundie

“They treat them differently because they are different.”
Legally, marriage is a partnership, involving the joining of properties and a control of how wealth is transmitted to the next generation.
Gay partnership works the same way as straight partnerships.

“Marriage exists not because of sex, but because it is the best way to nurture our progeny to keep our nation strong.”
I’ve seen too many cases of child abuse to think that marriage is the best way possible, it’s just what we have.

“Sex is involved only because that is how we procreate.”
But the married couple doesn’t have to have procreate. It’s not like the state pulls our license if we don’t have kids within two years of marriage.
Or, if they procreate, it doesn’t have to be with each other. Humans have had bastards and recognized bastards and adoptions and fosters and kids…
the prefix ‘fitz’ is for an acknowledged bastard. Bill Smith’s kids are named Smith, if he married the mother, or ‘FitzSmith’ if he did not. This is to control which of his offspring can have his inheritance. Because marriage is about property, not procreation.

“Homosexual activity, no matter the position you use, will NEVER result in the conception of a child. That makes it something outside the scope of why marriage even exists.”
Totally meaningless for getting a marriage license. Infertile couples that are cishet can still have sex that WILL NEVER result in conception, but they can still get married.

“This is not a complex issue. They just want to make it so.”
It’s not a complicated bias, either, you’re trying to pretend it’s not just your bigotry.

RANGERP #fundie

“regardless of the MSM claims, most libs like Obama are die hard atheist.”
Pretty sure if i ever had a reason to think gods were real, I wouldn’ tbe an atheist.

“Obama worships his own brain, and that means he has a very weak god (little “g”).”
It’d be fucking weird to actually WORSHIP the thing that makes me go into the kitchen, but then forgets why i got up.

“Jimmy Carter is an atheist, and he teaches Sunday School. He no more believes the bible, than Obama does.”
How much time did you spend developing this telepathy?
Not sure how you can look at pictures of someone and know the depth of their faith…

“To be a true democrat, one has to deny the Bible.”
I deny the bible, but I’m not a democrat.

“You cannot agree with abortion, welfare, gov run schools, gay marriage, gays in the military—.. and believe the Bible.”
The only mention of abortion in the Bible is where God directs it, Numbers 5.
Welfare sounds like something Jesus directed in the Sermon on the Mount.
So, not sure what you’re talking about when you refer to The Bible.

Stephen Green, Director Christian Voice #fundie

“Mankind is capable of rejecting God,”
I don’t know that I reject any god.
I reject the claims people make of gods.
I haven’t seen a reason to think that there is a god to reject.
Like, I don’t ‘reject’ Krom, the god Conan worships. I just think that he only exists in a work of fiction.

“and when we do that, we worship some aspect of His creation which we regard as divine,”
I don’t think I’m worshiping anything, either.

“or ‘just there’ So in pagan religions such as pre-dated Christianity in these islands, they worship the sun, the rain, fertility and all the things which are important to their economy.”
Um, fertility is kind of more important than to the economy. The whole of society needs new generations. ‘Economy’ sounds like you’re trying too hard to sound clinical.

“In doing that, they diminish man himself and they soon end up with human sacrifice.”
Blood sacrifice doesn’t diminish humans. If anything, we’re saying that humans are powerful enough that we can influence a god’s plans by offering a virgin.
If we can bribe the president with money, that doesn’t diminish money.

“Well, every pagan culture has, and it’s usually their children they sacrifice.”
Citation needed.
Aztecs and most of the Pacific Islanders, far as I know, sacrificed their enemies/prisoners of war, not their children.
I don’t recall the Norse sacrificing their kids, either.
Are you just flogging stereotypes?

“But atheism (or ’secular humanism’) itself is a form of paganism,”
Hahahahaha! Words have meanings, idiot.

“in which man worships mankind and mankind’s powers of reason,”
Worship is the wrong word for ‘values’ and ‘produces results with.’

"Secular humanism is the dominant culture in Britain today, and we too, kill our own children, before they are born, in special clinics.”
Not as a ritual, though.
Sacrifices are when believers give up something they want.
No one gives up fire ants or wasp stings for Lent.
Abortions are giving up things we do NOT want. Totally different.

“Not much of an advance from the civilisation of ancient Canaan, is it, really?”
You’re way too wrong to be this smug, moron.

koichiwa #fundie

“it is not equal because equal means the same”
No, ‘identical’ means the same. Swing and a miss.
Right handed and left handed are different, but they are pretty much equal if you’re not in a Catholic school.

“and gays and straights are NOT the same.”
No one has said they are.

“and on a final note statistics show that a high percentage of gay couples dont stay together or cheat on the other.”
Bubbles, I’ve made 16 submarine patrols and at least 30 port visits in two different countries. If you’re going to deny equality based on promiscuity, the straights have the exact same problem. Used to be a ritual for the flight to Scotland to meet the submarine, where a bunch of married guys went to the back of the cabin and intoned, “What she doesn’t know won’t hurt me” as they took off their wedding rings.

“now you tell me that your love is better than ours”
I don’t know how to measure love. It is apparent that I love more people than you do, but I couldn’t tell you if any of it’s ‘better.’

David J. Stewart #conspiracy

“Be aware that at any time, law enforcement … can break into your home to seize your children based on …an anonymous tipster.”
No, they cannot.
I used to work at a crisis hotline. We couldn’t call the cops if the complainer wanted to remain anonymous. Saves people from trying to get their ex shot by a false complaint.
I needed a name and the cops would come to see them first. THEN if the charge was credible, go talk to the parents, the kids.
This is just paranoid fearmongering, Davey.

StAliaHarkonnen #fundie

“If I was a dead female I'd be honored if someone raped my corpse”
Exactly how do you think that a dead person has any opinion at all?
What tells you that your desire to scratch your horn is reflected by generous emotions in any other being on the planet?

“Probably the highest form of validation a woman can hope to get,”
You think SHE would think that sex she cannot consent to validates her?
How?
I mean, if she wouldn’t let you touch her through her entire life, her inability to fend you off is a plus in death?
What the fuck goes through your head, BBs?

“knowing her cold rotten worm infested cunt”
You want to fuck that?
You think SHE thinks of herself as cold and rotten and ‘validated’ by your hard-on? Deep Ones Above, you’re a sick fruit on the ugly-to-the-bone tree.

“is still a cunt some living man wants to fuck.”
And I want the Hulk to punch you up into orbit to die in a vacuum, do you FEEL validated?

Rom831 #fundie

“It stands that evolution (not chromosomes, fossils, dna, etc which are not evolution) has never been observed,”
Well, sure, throw out everything that shows evolution and claim nothing shows evolution.
And If i discount the queen, the bishop, and the rook threatening my king, I haven’t yet been faced with Checkmate.
But while we have observed evolution (every single flu season), we don’t HAVE to observe it for science.
Science includes ‘repeatable observations,’ but doesn’t require ‘eyewitness testimony.’

“tested or recreated of which all are part of the requirements of the scientific method"
If that were true, then we couldn’t consider it science to study star formation. I don’t want MIT trying to recreate a stellar nova in my state, thanks.

“which real science stands on.”
Try again, bubbles. You’re trying to define evolution away but you’re using a mockery of the definition.

Graroz #sexist

“What pedo-hysteria folks”
Is there anyone who is not a pedophile who calls anyone pedo-hysterical?
I mean, RIGHT OFF you signal that you’re just trying to rationalize your desires as socially acceptable.

“do not seem to understand is that it has a negative effect on girls as well.”
Huh?

“Girls in their true phase of peak attractiveness (12-16 years old)”
Last time I wanted a 16 year old girl, I am pretty sure I was about 14.
Peak attractive to YOU is not the same as an objective status they exhibit.

“actively seek out older and powerful men who will dominate them, both sexually and otherwise.”
Do you have any support for this? Or just throwing out stereotypes and justification?
And still, how is preventing these hookups having a negative effect on girls?
The ‘pedo-hysteria’ you imagine is just wanting to protect minors from predators.

“They genuinely enjoy being dominated, yet fanatics have criminalized these interactions.”
Their feelings are not criminalized. But the adult wanting to prey on the minor is criminalized, yes. Not really a problem for most law-abiding, adult human beings.

Jen #conspiracy

“There should be a blanket rule: just don't let the pediatrician take off the diaper ever. What do they need to see anyway?”
Rash? Sores? Infections? Developmental problems? Signs of abuse?

“Or how about not going to the pediatrician in the first place, they just wanna mess with your kid and make more money.”
There are plenty of professions one might enter that allow access to children without getting thrown up on or peed on as much as a pediatrician must. Wouldn’t be my first choice.

“Toxic vaccines, foreskin retraction, yikes.”
it’s not the pediatricians promoting circumcision. they tend to argue against it.

“I recommend only taking your kid in if they have an earache or broke their arm.”
I recommend you shut the fuck up unless and until you have a child.

“Healthy breastfed kids are perfect …because I kept them away from the goddamn doctors …”
Nice fantasy. Paranoid as fuck, but pure fantasy.

“There you have it, I said it. Take your kid in only if he has an earache, rash, broken arm, etc, but not if they are well!!!!”
i took my kids to KEEP them well you insufferable loon.
And kept them up to date on all their shots.

“Any "well child" visits are just a scam to make money off of your kid and create illnesses with vaccines that they will later make tons of money off treating.”
Okay.
I mean, I’ve seen the fatality rates of preschoolers from before vaccines were widely available and after. I don’t like tiny coffins.
And I’d hate to have to use a day of PTO to attend a funeral for something I could have prevented.
So with all due respect, which isn’t very much, shut your fucking trap you fucked-up paranoid schizophrenic idiot.

changeup2010 #fundie

"I don't believe the burden is on me to prove that there is a God.”
Depends on what you want to accomplish. I recall that one legislature opened with a Hindu giving the prayer. Christains went snakeshit. If you want to ONLY allow Christain prayers, that would be a place where you would have to prove that your faith is accurate and his isn’t.

“The burden is on you to prove that there is no God.”
Not really. We have a secular government. We have the Lemon Law. Whether gods exist or do not, we do not allow laws purely to promote superstition.

Liz Hays #fundie

“People getting turned on by animals doesn't sound like a mental disorder to you?”
That’s bestiality. Key thing is being turned on by something that cannot consent to sex.

Furries are turned on by anthropomorphic animals… Animals with human traits, and the ability to consent.

I see the difference as ‘I don’t want to know what you do in your bedroom’ from ‘I don’t want to know what you do in my barn.’

To me, a disorder is when your problem prevents you from operating in the real world. Fetishes, kinks, and interests may not be to your or my liking, but i don’t think they rise to the level of disorder.

julius uy #fundie

Americans Are Back #wingnut #crackpot #conspiracy #mammon

Man, I NEVER get SC’s on my jury duty.
I get people that take one look at the jury who will judge them and start talking deals to their lawyer.
Looks like a bank transaction. Offer, counter offer, deal, everyone agrees,judge bangs the hammer…
No speeches, no references to weird history, no significance of trimming…
Being an adult is boring.

kerri #fundie

“It is amazing how you can manipulate the spirit in which the law was written.”
That was a problem Thomas Jefferson had. He didn’t want ‘free speech’ to protect lies. But he couldn’t think of a way to discriminate that couldn’t be abused. Like Catholics calling Baptist theology lies, or vice versa.
So, in general, the ‘spirit’ of free speech is that it protects all speech, right to the point where any actual harm is inflicted. Like yelling ‘theater’ in a crowded fire.

“where people such as yourself twist freedom of speech laws to permit child porn on the internet...”
Either you have no idea of the resources that are dedicated to fighting actual child porn on the internet;
OR you have a very low threshold of what you call ‘child porn’ to include ‘Dance Moms’ or stuff like that.
If you have an actual complaint, and think you can prove it’s actually child porn, contact law enforcement.

Navaros #fundie

“So-called 'women'”
Um, yes. They’re women. If they’re old enough to choose abortion, they’re not really girls, are they?

“have the power to murder their unborn babies and not be prosecuted for those murders.”
Murder is the unlawful taking of a human life.
If abortion is legal, it’s not murder.
Words have meaning.

“In other words, they can and do quite literally get away with murder."
No, they do not.

“There is no greater power that anyone could possibly have than to get away with murder.”
How about a commander in chief who sends someone else off to kill?

“That is the most egregious & outright abominable example, and no others are even needed to prove the point that your claim of "men having the power" is utter bull.”
Men are the ones voting in the Red states to take away abortion rights.
Men are the ones making sure that rapists get to choose who is the mother of tehir children. Men have the power.

“But I'll still give other examples too anyway.”
Betcha you don’t.

“Women also have the power to steal half of men's assets and all of their children in divorce court,”
No, they do not.
Legally, marriage is a partnership where two estates are joined. So by marrying a woman, the man allows her to claim the assets of the couple. In a divorce, she takes her half. It’s not stealing, and it’s no longer HIS assets. Law has meaning, too.
And child custody could be given to men if they can convince the judge they’re the better choice. So it’s not a ‘power’ of women.

“and furthermore, they have the power to leech tons of money off of their victim - for no legitimate reason - for the rest of his life.”
YOU say no legitimate reason, but that’s the law that was operational when the men signed the contract and joined the partnership. So it’s something he agreed to at least risk.

“Women also have the power to get men fired and hence leave him unable to survive via bogus "sexual harassment" claims:”
Is that really a woman’s ‘power,’ though? A woman files a complaint and the company will either fire her or fire him. Either way, corporate does it to protect corporate, not because the woman has a superpower to fire.

“to be clear, I'm not justifying actual harassment, but what I'm saying is that women can fabricate claims of "harassment" that never happened, and the innocent man will always be found guilty just because of the same sexist attitude that the OP points out and which has spread like a cancer throughout all societies run by liberal/SJW/feminist crazies (which appallingly, is most of them).”
So, even you note that it’s not HER POWER, it’s corporate’s attitude. They’re not all women, but they’re all corporate.

“Likewise, they also have the power to to fabricate false claims of "rape" that never really happened, and when they do, the innocent man will again always be found guilty, imprisoned, and have his reputation ruined.”
Hey, if they’re ALWAYS found guilty, how in the HELL do you know that any of them are false accusations?

“Of course, I'm not defending actual rape.”
Uh huh… You just are quick to accept that rape is not actual.

emilie #fundie

“I am still in school, and we learn about evolution alot.”
I don’t think you are.
For one, alot isn’t a word.
Allot is a word, it means distributing.
A Lot is two words, it means a shitload.
And ‘learn’ is the transfer of information.
I would suspect ‘information is made available to me’ would be better.

“I don't believe it.”
No one is asking you to.

“When we learn it, I sit in my seat praying for my teacher and for my class that the message won't get through to them and they'll learn the truth.”
See? You are intent on learning nothing.
Just masturbating in your head about your invisible friend.

jsn112 #fundie

Carico #fundie

“That's because astronomers erroneously assume that the light which the stars reflect is the light from the sun.”
No, they do not. Not even slightly.

“They then base their calculations on that.”
What calculation?
We bounce lasers off the moon, but we know when the light was generated, at the Atomic Clock Time, and we know when the light is detected coming back, and we know the speed of light, and THAT is everything we need to calculate the distance.
The sun shines continuously. IFF our sun’s light was reaching Proxima and bouncing back, we would not know exactly when the light left the sun. Don’t know how many years it traveled between here and there and back.

“But read the 2nd paragraph in Genesis and you'll notice that God created light before he created the sun. So guess which light the stars are reflecting?"
Read Genesis, the sun, moon, and stars are all inside the solid sky. Scripture is absolutely worthless in determining light-years to stars in the real world.

David J. Stewart #sexist

“We hear a lot about "Domestic Abuse" these days; but NOTHING is ever said about stubborn or rebellious wives.”
Are you kidding? You won’t SHUT THE FUCK UP about it.
It’s all over the Men’s Rights movement.
Rape apologist sites.
Male abuser’s sites.
It’s just that in a court of law, you can’t use ‘bitch deserved a beating’ as a defense.

“How about a new term called... Domestic Rebellion? Or, perhaps we should term it... Domestic Laziness.”
That’s just an attempt to justify your abuse as her fault.
Weirdly, I suspect it’ll never catch on.

“ Or, perhaps just a simple... Domestic Bad Attitude!”
More words are simpler in your mind, Davey?

“The entire legal system has turned vicious against working fathers in America.”
Abusers, you mean. I mean, you literally mean the people committing the abuse.

“This is a woeful evil, and will ultimately bring the judgment of God upon this cursed nation.”
Right, right, right.
Slavery didn’t bring God’s wrath down, nor did abolition, abortion, any of the listed sins, but wives telling their hubby to shove off, that’s going to bring magic destruction down.

“Feminism is one of the evil children of Communism, intended to subvert American women into aborting (murdering) their babies, proclaiming Sexual Liberation, and divorcing their husbands. No wonder lesbianism is skyrocketing!!!”
Yes, yes, only communists think women do NOT deserve to be sex slaves and/or galley slaves.

“If you think there's not a satanic agenda in America at work trying to destroy your marriage, home and children... WAKE UP!!!”
I’m a feminist. My wife just got a higher salary than I make. Been married for 40 years. Have you ever had a relationship last 40 years, Davey? Ever?
Our only abortion was after her miscarriage. no lesbians in the house, but one gay son. No divorces, although the last generation almost entirely divorced.
Ah, well. Maybe Satan is fucking with you Davey, but you invite him in.

caseypayne1980 #fundie

“I've read reports showing the false beliefs of science.”
Was this a creationist site?

“ "IF" evolution existed we'd still be hairy like apes.”
We are apes, and when they shaved me for my catheterization, after my heart attack, I’m pretty sure I was hairy.

“For evolution to choose us and not apes is way off.”
Evolution didn’t choose shit. And we’re still apes.

“To say well one got to evolutionize and the other stayed hairy.”
No, idiot, they both evolved.

“Evolutionist will tell you that the hair stayed on ur head for the sun rays to get blocked.”
You have it backwards. Hair staying there protected us from the sun.

“Last time I checked hair was to keep you warm in the winter, not to block sun rays.”
How the fuck do you ‘check’ the entire list of benefits from a trait?

“In that case how come through the generations people getting skin cancer haven't developed into hairy beasts.”
Because individuals do not evolve you incredible loon.

FLIRTSSTAR #fundie

“first of all if all gay marriage took over we would cease to exist.”
And if vasectomies took over, we’d cease to exist. Doesn’t mean I want to take away any man’s right be snipped.
And if hysterectomies took over, we’d cease to exist. Doesn’t mean I want to take away any woman’s right be hollowed out.
And if incels took over, we’d cease to exist. And we’d deserve it…

“the human reproductive system is design for the sole purpose of reproduction”
Thus the name.

“therefor, the majority cannot be gay becasue our plant would die without reproduction.”
First off, not sure how you’re going to legislate that.
Second, gay men have historically been able to reproduce because, if nothing else, they were deep in the closet. I was in my teens when so many suddenly decided they were tired of living a lie and angered many of their children. The race will continue even if all the straight men fell over dead today.

PITT Parents #transphobia

"Every time she says dumb crap, my soul in pain will wallow.”
Good god, either speak your normal english or shut up, you’re working too hard to rhyme.
And why is your mood attached to his saying dumb crap? You’re the parent, his JOB is to say dumb crap.

"and hope shoots through my weary veins like COVID-19 shots.”
I never have felt shots in my veins. I have felt a few shots as a taste in my mouth…

“She chops her lovely locks off like my heart’s not even there.”
Um….Yeah? Your son is making decisions for his sake, not yours.
If you’re that invested in your son’s self-expression, much becomes clear. You’re not raising a child, you’re living vicariously through your avatar.

“I hold her close and tell her that she will always be”
But that’s not true, is it? He isn’t yours if he’s swinging too far out of your ideal. And guys can love Pink as much as girls do.

"But get me off this dumb contraption and its cursed hills!”
You expect too much of him to sacrifice for your sake.

ilovesarah2012 #fundie

“Funny how the left is all about protecting religious freedom when it comes to building the mosque, but totally against the freedom to burn korans.”
I’m totally in favor of it being free speech to burn flags, bibles, Korans, torahs, communion wafers, and anything with Trump’s name on it.
I just hate when you think ‘freedom’ means you can do it without facing any consequences.

“I want muslims to know their satanic cult isn’t wanted here.”
Except you dont’ get to decide that for all Americans, dipshit.

“America needs to get their collective heads out of the sand and see what islam has done to other countries and what it will inevitably do in America.”
Then we take steps so that it’s not inevitable?

“Islam is in no way compatible with American laws and ideals, in spite of what muzzie Barry says.”
Any idea how long Islam has been IN America, then?

Haylow #fundie

“Parents are free to beat and rape and kill, we all are free to do these things”
Just hope you’re prepared for the consequences.

“ and why i don't condone these actions”
Do you mean ‘while’?

“i have to respect that people have free will to do these actions”
Why? Why do you respect this ability?

“if i don't then i am just another disrespectful person in this world...”
So you don’t respect for the free will, you respect for your self-image.

“Its not beating people thats wrong its disrespecting of a persons rights thats wrong”
Having the freedom to beat someone is not the same as having a right to beat them.

fellowservant34 #fundie

“The atheist worldview is completely illogical,”
Okay. I don’t believe in any gods. Show me where the logic fails.

“you'll never get a logical and rational answer to your questions because they don't care.”
Oh, i care about being logical…
But a lot of questions posed to me betray a horrible misunderstanding of atheism. And logical. And rationality.

“These ungodly heathens will not be content until they reach Hell.”
Always i ask for evidence for gods, any gods, always i get the threat of Hell for not believing. Not a really winning argument, what?

“These are railers,”
You’re the one throwing out insults and character assassination.

“blasphemers,”
Can’t really believe that blasphemy is a thing. Do you REALLY not know what atheism is?

“virulent haters of God,”
Wow. You really don’t.

“wells without water.”
That’s a basement.

“This is what the Bible says of them.”
And I care what your book of shadows says about your superstition because…?