you cannot go toe to toe on the God arguments. You will lose, but you will lnever admit because you can't be honest. You says it's mental illness to sure God exists. that's crazy. you are telling me that 2% of the poplulat know better than 98% of people living now and the vast majority of people who have ever lived. Its' part of our brain stucture to believe in God. That should tell us right here God is a certainty.
"[Supersport has trouble comprehending basic grammar. Film at eleven.]
And here’s the magic of life as I see it: Since life is a verb, I find it interesting that faith is also a verb."
I got stoned and decided to experiment to see if I could find hidden meanings in the bible while stoned. I woudl immediately come down and be unstoned when I began to read. I would be totally moved by what I read and want to be a Chrisian. Then I'd get stonned again and repeat the process with the same result. This went on about five times then I decided never smoke pot again because if God was real he was trying to tell me I don't need pot. I grew to realize I like prayer better. I never smoked pot since.
I don't trust atheists. I really don't. In a godless world people will behave in a godless way. If someone believes in God and trusts what the Bible teaches then even if they behave bad they will apologise, seek forgiveness... there's no compulsion for atheists to do any such thing. In a godless world you only get to face up to your actions if you get caught.
I find atheists tend to be sneaks who put up a farce that they are moral but as soon as your back is turned they do what they like. Not to be trusted.
"Homosexuals reproduce by molesting children and seducing vunerable young teenagers."
Do you think it is a sin to intentionally look at a picture of a woman on a website? Ok, my example is... I'm looking at Yahoo sports and there is a picture of what I know is probably an attractive woman below in the picture photos. This one happens to be a Golf picture. I click on the picture and I see the picture, but I keep looking at more and more to see more. Ok, I'm pretty sure looking at the first picture probably isn't particularly wrong, but when you continue to look at additional ones, is that sinning? What sin would that be considered? Is it lust? I don't think so because I don't have any sexual desire for the woman, I just like looking because she's attractive. What would it be?
Why Would Any Sane Man Want Polygamy?
For a man to take on more than one woman, either as a wife or as a secret encounter, escapes me.
One woman is enough for any man to deal with considering all of the psychotic "needs" every woman comes up with. Just think about how every woman does not even know what she wants in life, because they always are changing their minds about it. They change with the social climate, fashion trends, whether or not the feminists are screaming about something, whether or not Oprah is babbling about anything that week, with the advertising being so well aimed at them for products and services, with whatever anyone is telling them they "deserve" or are "worth," and with whatever their personal hormones are doing.
I see way too often atheists have trouble understanding how serious God is about sin.
You really do have cheese for brains if you deny that there is a Supreme Intelligence governing the universe when there are all kinds of proofs in nature for the existence of the Supreme Intelligence who governs the universe.
Because everything you say is spoken from a non-Christian theory of knowledge, it -- in theory -- is wrong because knowledge would not be possible at all if atheism were true, thus you are wrong about everything. The only reason you can do mathematics, science, etc. is because you really (though you won't acknowledge it) presuppose a Christian view of life, i.e. common grace.
(I apologize if this is already up here)
Evolution in the end becomes Buddhism, an ad hoc explanation on how Biology works, and is self defeating and false.
Denying God takes effort. So the claim that atheists/evolutionists make that there is no proof of God is bogus. In order to deny God atheists/evolutionists have to:
1) Make up another story for the origin of man such as apes just turing into humans or breeding human descendants when they haven't done that since the beginning of recorded history. That entails volumes and volumes of trying to fit a square peg into a round hole that can't be proven to occur in reality.
2) Changing history and inventing a new history of the Jews to claim that the first man wasn't Adam. That takes a great amount of effort.
3) Making up new events that happened in Jerusalem to claim that Jesus didn't show his divinity through his words and actions.
4) Spending thousands of hours trying to figure out how the earth was formed, particularly since it took, according to evolutionists, man millions of years to think up the "Big Bang."
5) Trying to figure out why all the disciples and apostles would give up their lives for a lie.
6) Claiming there is no intelligent design using contradictory claims that chance causes cause-effect in the universe.
7) Claiming that energy can be converted into mass when energy doesn't contain mass.
8) Claiming that sex between humans is bestiality because they claim that humans are animals; or claiming that bestiality is sex between humans and animals, but denying that sex between humans is bestiality even though evolutionists claim that humans are animals!
9) Atheists claiming that they know better than eye-witnesses what happened at an event that atheists themselves didn't witness.
10) Trying to explain the sedimentary rock layers all over the world in any other way than a flood including a world-wide tsunami.
11) And even with all their effort, no one has still been able to explain the existence of the first living organism, the first plant, or living being. Yet atheists refuse to admit God's existence.
So the above scenarios are deliberate denial of God because they take a tremendous amount of effort to conjure up. Some people spend their whole lives trying to find explanations that deny God. So this shows that not only do humans know that God exists because of the effort they have to put into trying to refute God, but the irrational and contradictory arguments they have to endorse to deny God!
Since many people like to change the words in the bible, let's change Darwin's theory too. Afterall, anyone's interpretation of his words are as correct as anyone's interpretation of the bible.
So Darwin claimed that humans didn't evolve from apes or primates, but instead, from the a three-toed sloth that just...mutated into a human. Afterall, mutations happen all the time so of course this is the way it happened. We have fossils of three--toed sloths that existsed millions of years ago so that is proof that they turned into humans.
We also have other fossils that once used to be a three-toed sloth, but they died out because they weren't fit enough so they thankfully happened to breed a superior three-toed sloth. Whew! That mutation was a lucky break. But wait...the environment must have been colder then let's say around an avergage of 20 degrees all year around, no let's make it 30. Yeah, that's a nice round number because it was much closer to the ice age so it fits right in.
So the above is true because it's my "interpretation" of Darwin's words and they're just as right as anyone else's.
Beating isn't creative enough for me. I really want my children to stay on their toes. When my youngest was 6 (she's 7 now, so not long ago) she dumped her entire plate of dinner over the balcony of our apartment onto the grass below.
So I made her her favorite snack! An awesome bowl of popcorn..JUST FOR HER! I let her take a bite. And then guided her over to the balcony, and proceeded to dump the entire bowl. She looked at me like I'd just cleaned her clock. She was then instructed to go pick up all of her dinner, and every single one of the 60486 popcorns on the ground below and then do her dishes.
Lesson, learned.
I think the problem is you have to compensate for a silly concept such as a lack of belief.
But a belief is something, so you can't lack it.
Interestingly, evolutionary atheists find it difficult to deal with the fact that an EVENT either occurred or did not occur. For example, Jesus walking on water. It either 1) occurred 2) did not occur
If it did not occur, then gospel writers either 1) lied 2) hallucinated
However a difficulty with 2) is that mass hallucinations not possible. So this leaves you with option 1) i.e. gospel writers lied.
The other option is that the walking on water did occur. I believe this.
There is no scope for evolution from nothing here. Clear logical reasoning shows these as the possibilities.
In another thread, one guy denied Jesus ever existed. That is a convenient way out. But that still implies gospel writers lied.And historical evidence destroys the claim Jesus never existed- I wonder what other historical figures that poster denies, and why?
Called and chosen. I am not homophobic. I am homopuker though. I want to vomit when I see two men want to smooch each other on the lips.
The Christian mind is an open mind. Christians entertain all the following theories:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creationism
-Young earth creationism
-Gap (old earth) creationism
-Progressive creationism
-Theistic evolution
-Intelligent design
The atheist entertains
-atheistic evolution.
Conclusion. The atheistic mind is a closed mind, a constrained mind.
Atheists live to kill people...especially babies, old people and anyone who disagrees with their politics of hate. If people don't hate what they hate, atheists just kill them. And if atheists don't want people around -- such as developing fetuses or sick people, it's ok to just snuff 'em out and throw 'em away like trash.
Atheist propaganda comes in many forms. Of course those who propagate atheist propaganda will never admit that they do it. They will even try and convince people that there is no atheist propaganda which is what the posters on this thread are trying to do but in doing this they are taking part in an atheist propaganda campaign. That's the nature of propaganda. It's often very subtle like the serpent was.
If an angel was in a UFO that led the astrologers (the 'wise men') to the young child Jesus in that house (Mt 2:11), then it must have been a wicked angel. How so? We have these pagan astrologers (Greek, "magoi"; see De 18:10-12 and Isa 47:13,14) traveling along and they see a "star". (how convenient; astrologers.....stars.....) Does it lead them directly to Jesus? Nope. They next end up in front of the wicked King Herod in Jerusalem. (Mt 2:1,2) Herod lies to the astrologers and tells them to go find the Christ and report back to him so he can worship him also. (Mt 2:8) His real intention was to kill Jesus. (Mt 2:13) Now an assassination plot has been assembled and the astrologers are the dupes in this scheme. So the astrologers start to travel and see the "star" again. This time it leads them to Bethlehem and to not a baby, but the young child Jesus in his house. (Mt 2:9) After they pay their homage to Jesus, the astrologers are ready to head back to Jerusalem to report to Herod as instructed. So up to this point, following the "star" has just about got Jesus killed! How is God going to stop it? He warns them in a dream not to go back to Herod. (Mt 2:12) So who was using the "star" to help carry out an evil assassination plot? Who else, but the manslayer and opposer of God, Satan the Devil. Thus the next time you see a 'star' on top of a Christmas tree, remember that it represents a wicked angel who was determined to have Jesus, the Son of God, killed.
Atheist evolutionists are anti-knowledge
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Atheist evolutionists like to label those who believe in creation and reject ToE as being anti-science.
But there is something greater than science. It is called knowledge. Knowledge includes more than just science.
Knowledge can be attained in the natural and the supernatural. Supernatural simply means beyond the natural, just as supersonic is beyond the speed of sound. Atheist evos such as Dawkins want to restrict science to the natural. But this excludes any knowledge available from the supernatural.
Therefore, the atheist evos want to limit knowledge to the natural and exclude knowledge from the supernatural.
They are therefore anti-knowledge. Narrow minded.
what childish bs ever gave you the idea that this thoughtless bromide is at all analogous to belief in God?
atheists should be shot for crimes against reason. But us Christians will put in a good word for you.
You being an atheist have no right to use anything from the Bible to either comment on or have any kind of reaction to - since you dont believe in the author of it - God - so therefore you have given up your right to have an opinion about it. And you cannot declare it is "ridiculous" or any such a thing. And you cannot interpret it since you reject it and its author - God. You being an athiest do have the right to comment on something you would know about - secular humanistic documents. But God's Word, no, sorry, you are not even worthy to comment on God's sacred book.
DNA is all a scam.
They say that DNA from blood samples can prove who people are, but blood doesn't even HAVE DNA!
If you were to create a game/competition.
It is you who has sole right to make the rules, being the creator of the game.
You could stipulate that the contestants could make the rules up as they whent, rules that might help the free flow of the game or cause the game to come to a halt , but then you have already made a rule(there is no rules).
You could create rules, then the contestants being free willed could breake the rules because it suited them, you as the games creator at this point could
A:disqualify all cheating contestants,
B:turn a blind eye to the cheating
C: create a new rule that over writes the first rules
So the game will work as long as your rules are followed and every thing here would be well within your rite as the creator because it is your game.
This system works with games created by a collective group as long as the governing body is in agreement with each other, but when one dissagrees with the rules and has their own ideas the a slightly different game is invented
Atheism is different to this.
Atheism says there is no ultimate governing body over this game we call life, we are all playing our own "game" making up our own rules as we go along. If this were the case we would have no right to critisize or dictate the rules to another, for their "game" is there own created by them selfs. If someone violates the rules of your game, that is they are living by their own rules, in the eyes of the atheist it cannot be immoral.
Most atheists though cannot live like this, because they cannot live without at least some of there own rules being followed. and like wise society cannot exist if there werent rules handed down from a higher authority, namely God
For it is only the creator who has the exclusive right to impose rules. It would be immoral for a man or a society to impose rules on a nother man unless they were handed down from the creator of this world.
No fault divorce has been a disaster. If a couple wants to divorce, blame should be assigned to one or both parties for departing their Biblical role as husband and/or wife, and sanction applied to the guilty party. If wrongdoing cannot be done, no divorce should be allowed. No more divorce because "we made a mistake and were young" or "we've fallen out of love."
Atheist? Where do your rights come from?
God is the head of this nation and I think this is tough for some atheist and secularist to grasp.
We get our God given rights from our Creator and the government is set up as a secondary appendage to protect those God given rights but the government gets it's power from the people and not the other way around.
I think this is why you see this split.
Many liberals, atheist and secularist don't believe in God so are rights come from the state. This means the government is almighty and they push for a nanny state.
Most Conservatives have a belief in God and they want less government and more individual control because they believe our individual rights come from our Creator and government is there to protect our rights.
The question is if your rights do not come from a Creator then where do your rights as an individual come from?
If there's no God, then you have no rights except those that other men want to give you.
Darwinism is idolatry and sorcery. Some sxzeem to think dabbling in it in moderation is OK.
When we see the evil and vile men involved in the evolution movement, Good Christians stay away from it.
the counsel of 1Blessed is the man that walketh not in the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
2But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
Theists that are evolutionists have chosen the STUPIDnatural, lazy god over the SUPERnatural all-powerful, all-knowing God. There are just as deluded as atheists. And
please, please show me one "biblical literalist" that BELIEVES in evolution.
Women who have abortions should be locked away in an insane asylum because they are obviously insane for having an abortion instead of having the baby and then giving the baby up for adoption because there are thousands of couples who want to adopt babies.
It takes so much more faith to be an atheist than a Christian.
May God have mercy on the damned. No, the damned deserve their damnation.
Atheism: Since Jesus is a reality according to the Bible, to hold Atheism consistently one must state that there is no reality! OOPS!
Just thought you might literally need a reality check.
First of all, how do they know it's Lucy's baby? Even criminal investigators have no way of knowing who the parents of a skeleton were unless they can match it with the DNA of a relative. :rolleyes:
1)Logic exist
2)Logic is absolute
3)Logic can't exist without a mind. (hence they are conceptual)
4) Logic transcends space and time.
Since logic is absolute, trascends space and time, and can't exist without a mind, therefore there must be an absolute, mind that exist and transcends space and time.
God repeatedly told the Jews to listen to Him. They didn't. So he punished them. They still didn't listen. So then he said He would punish their children and they still didn't listen. So anyone who risks the lives of his children to ignore God isn't showing any love to his children by doing so. You would be wise to heed that as well because God won't allow people to desecrate His laws and His creation without consequences. Sorry.<winking smiley.>
I wouldn't mind going back to the 1700s. I've about decided that all areas of science are evil, including technological sciences. Technology is ruining this country.
"Sorry but scientists have just shown that mice DNA is more similar to humans than human DNA. So would evolutionists then declare that humans came from mice? Probably. That's because most people can't think for themselves and are confused about reality. That's why they believe anything scientists say."
Lots of Christians will try to come up with convoluted explanations for why something God did was moral. Sadly, the more educated someone is, the more likely they are to do this.
Few people have what I believe to be a proper view of God: one that simply says 'God did it, therefore it is good'.
how do you know your mother loves you?
What's the point of keeping the therad on "How do we know God is not satan" and watching it grow to amaznig proportions?
The question is elementry. The whole point of being a beilever is to know God. you have relationship with God you know he's love and that he's good, how? Read the title again.
Its' as simple as that. We know God is God and that he's good because we know him.
Jesus said that faith can move a mountain and it surely can. If God gives us the faith that we won't get sick if we drink a pint of hemlock, then we won't get sick, period.
earth to Mark....science very rarely admits its wrong....about anything. Scientists don't like showing up their comrads.....it's a little game they play: "I won't step on your toes if you don't step on mine." And your little challenge, the way it is worded, is virtually impossible to beat because the way science generally dates rocks is by the fossils they find in them. Therefore, there is almost no way to prove circular reasoning because re-dating a fossil has nothing to do with the dating of the rock -- it's all about assumptions made on the date of the fossil. I'm sure fossils are redated all the time -- but it's not because the rock changed or that they misdated the rock because of the rock it was in ------ they just simply re-date the fossil whenever they want, plain and simple.
[Was Jesus ever married? Did he have Sex?]
I believe this question is frivolous and without merit. It feels as if it is asked in a whimsical way.Jesus was not carnal. Sex is the ultimate carnality. Although he never states (like Nixon said "your president is not a crook" or Bill Clinton) that he never had sex with that woman, Mary Magdalene, everything we know about him says he was a pure as the wind driven snow. You can believe that he was lustful and acted on it, but I don't. If you preach that stuff you risk getting Jesus really annoyed with you. So...if I were you I would be careful regarding Jesus's so called sexuality.
If athiesm is true you may worship nothing but if christianity is true you are a creature worshipper. Your response "I don't worship anything" actually proves that you are not in line with what the Creator says about you. Which means you are definitely not honouring God in your statement, "I don't worship anything". We all do according to christianity. There is no in between there are either Creator worshippers or creature worshippers so if Christianity is the gospel truth then your statement that "I don't worship anything" would be an evidence to a christian that you in fact are a creature worshipper. Now to an athiest it is evidence that he/she is in line with athiesm for athiesm doesn't at all take Romans 1 into account or that he/she is a creature and should do all things to His glory of his/her Creator whether that be eating or drinking. That is fine. But to just say "I don't worship anything" and some how we christians are going to abandon the thus saith the LORD in Romans 1 on your say so. I just don't think we are prepared to take your say so into account at this point. We are Creator worshippers by His grace in Christ not athiest worshippers!!!!
Science is powerful in supporting out presuppositions. When Colubus sailed to the Americas claiming the world was not flat, the two boats that sailed over the edge never had the opportunity to write about their flat earth theory and prove it was flat. Only the three that made it lived.
For a long time, Evolutionists have made up plenty of just-so stories, but I"m not really all that convinced that they are really doing any field research or laboratory work of their own. My thoughts are that they've been copying off of the Young Earth Creation Science works and claiming it as their own. I'm just asking for one piece of legitimate work from an Evolutionist that hasn't been stolen.
ok, fact based on something right? says alot does it?
Darwin couldnt explain the human eye Brother! Darwins Theory is Racist, did you know that? Common descent from where? How, i prefer the Genesis 11 explanation. So with missing Links apparently, evolution is now true and has been tested and verified?
Not really, look at the meaning of those words, i used many words to show you, you dismiss the meaning, it does say alot quiet frankly.
Science has made tremendous marks over time, funny they established those other findings and this one they call a theory!
Please explain the human eye to me. Were we blind at one stage, or are you going to say that the eye was the first thing that evolved and everything else followed?
[This ENTIRE thread is an overload of stupid!]
What is evolution? It's a religious cult. The same religion that fueled the Panet of the Apes type fantasy. Evos are hopeful that this "scientific" process will eventually take place, making chimps grow smarter to eventually use as servants.
The biggest problem I have with their religion is that this process would take a very, very long time to take place. Probably millions. Life would have no time for this, as existence has been here for roughly 6,000 years (give or take a few). It simply could not have happened.
Christian Holidays - Why do atheists keep them?
I've never seen an atheist who's hesitated to give his kids Christmas presents or send them on easter egg hunts. They remind me of spoiled kids who will eat dessert, but not dinner.
("Funny, why do you send your kids on a pagan (my Bible doesn't mention the easter bunny) easter egg hunt?")
I don't. Please do not speak lies about me.
I would never allow my children to participate in anything involving the pagan atheistic aspects that satan has brought into the Easter holiday. I and they celebrate only Jesus' resurection and the forgiveness of our sins.
Most abortions are from 9 to 12 weeks and according to recent studies from fetogolgiststhey do feel pain. Regardless, they are killing an innocent human being. Does that mean nothing do you? Aren't you glad weren't rip apart in the womb and thown away like disposable garbage.