www.ovarit.com

various commenters #interphobia ovarit.com

Isn’t it funny, though, how they suddenly remember what the word female means?
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( pennygadget )
There are actual female athletes who lost their Olympic spot for using medicated lip balm, smoking weed, or wearing swim caps designed for afros. But this whole ass man gets to compete in women's boxing despite having a dick and a lifetime of male puberty

( FeminismIs4Women )
They pulled the same stunt with Caster Semenya, the man with a DSD.

I think it's been established that TRAs in general either do not understand what the words female and intersex mean or they pretend to be ignorant and try to muddy the water on purpose.

( TeRadF )
is there actually any substance to what the TIMs are saying? Like is he actually intersex? I can't find more info on him. Regardless it doesnt matter because he has XY chromosomes. ;

( IrishTheFrenchie )
There is no account of him, or anyone representing him, ever saying he has a DSD. He's also never said he is trans.

Therefore, IMO, he is a regular dude with a forged document.

( Researcher1536 )
"But her passport says female, BIGOT!!!!"

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

( IrishTheFrenchie )
[...]
If you live somewhere where you can't have a female only event, leave the event open to all "women" and let the TIMs come. Then, because the group is "too large", divide everyone into two groups. The TIMs get to only speed date other TIMs. The women get to speed date other women.

If TIMs complain, it proves they don't see themselves as women. Because if they did, they'd be happy to date a transbian.

I know the best outcome is to be able to exclude these perverts from the get go, but if you can't...

( mathlover )
You have to expend a lot of time and effort to find and separate out lesbians who want to keep TIMS excluded. You go to "inclusive" spaces repeatedly to identify those lesbians - and verify that they are trustworthy - and set up private gatherings.

This takes time. And it is a lot of work. But eventually there is a growing group of lesbians the larping men will never have access to. This is what lesbians had to do so many years ago. We can do it again. We have to.

( Carrots90 )
I love this

When they complain, pretend not to know what they mean

“How do you know without a genital check”

( VestalVirgin )
For everything:

Get a photo of each participant, or better, have a video chat with them.

Rent two locations. The TIMs go to the location you announced beforehand. The actual women go to the other, which is told to them via e-mail.

Of course you'd have to ask women if they are there with someone, and if they are there with TIMs, allocate them to the TIM group.

(Also, it would be good to have a pool of handmaidens who can be recruited to keep the TIMs happy and prevent them from suspecting something. Of course without telling them that's what they're there for. Just invite them for free because they have "done so much for feminism" or some shit. From what I gather, many women on Ovarit are friends with handmaidens whom they haven't told they don't believe in gender religion. Might be hard with lesbian speed dating, but easier for women only music festivals and the like.)

Ok, if you mingle TIMs with handmaidens, that doesn't expose their hypocrisy, but I believe keeping them happy is the better way if you want a women only event.

They very much do not care about being exposed as hypocrites, they'd still have temper tantrums and demand to get to molest some actual lesbians.

Various commenters #kinkshaming ovarit.com

"Play"

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( miss_frankie )
“We’re into breath play”. Nope your boyfriend just gets a boner from choking you.

( demonista )
From strangling her/you. Even choking is a euphemism.

( Committing_Tervery )
The word “play” makes it sound so innocent, and instantly evokes images of children, so ew @ that word being constantly used too. Pedophiles...

( pennygadget )
Agreed. Its pedo language designed to appeal to young people (and desensitize young girls)

( notafeminist )
All the while beating drums about how they are "safe, sane and consensual." No sane person gets off to labeling gruesome acts in such a childlike way.

Various Commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: "Most transsexuals are AGPs" - true?

( Tortoisemouse )
Thanks for all replies.

Is it not the case that many TiMs are gay men with internalised homophobia and/or struggling with being gender-nonconforming? Presumably they wouldn't be AGP?

I don't know for sure but I would hazard a guess that most of the TiMs I see around campus are gay men. They are student age. But I guess I am only seeing a subsection of the demographic, as this is a University city.

( IrishTheFrenchie )
Those are the minority of TIMs.

Blanchard was quoted as saying he estimated 75% or so were AGP back when he did his research (so that’s back in 80’s-90’s). The number must be higher today.

( Ladylucy )
Do you think there more AGPs because the internet has normalized fetishes?

( IrishTheFrenchie )
I think it's normalized but I also think the increasing perversion in society and easier access to violent, degrading porn has played a role.

( LOriginedumonde )
One would think that there must be a negative correlation between gay acceptance and the prevalence of HSTS, and a positive correlation between gay acceptance and the prevalence of AGPs.

( IrishTheFrenchie )
Straight men in pursuit of orgasm are definitely more privileged and act more entitled than a gay man trying to escape homophobia.

( ProxyMusic )
But most gay men who adopt a cross-sex identity as a response to homophobia are also in pursuit of orgasm. Gay boys and men are just as much driven by the male libido and male pursuit of their own sexual pleasure as any bog standard straight guys are.

Moreover, gay boys and men who become TIMs are not necessarily "trying to escape homophobia." Their actions are partly or largely a way of responding to homophobia, yes, but responding to homophobia isn't the same as an attempt to escape homophobia. On the contrary, for the majority of gay guys who become TIMs, adopting an opposite-sex identity seems to be their way of caving to and thoroughly embracing homophobia.

Many gay TIMs with internalized homophobia also have lots of externalized homophobia too. They say and do many things that are overtly homophobic. Some celebrate their own homophobia towards gay guys who aren't TIMs and especially towards lesbians. Which is why it's so easy for them to find fellowship and solidarity with straight men with AGP.

actualdyke & n3847 #transphobia ovarit.com

actualdyke:
Transactivism: the only "rights" movement that loses support as people learn more.

Title says it all really. It just completely astounds me that they continue to attempt to legitimize their movement by comparing it to the fight for civil rights or the fight for women's rights or the fight for gay rights. What all those movements had in common is while they may have been met with bigotry all throughout and still to this day, the general pattern is that the more the public learned about each group and the more the public learned about their movement and their goals and their requests, the more support they got & the more they changed people's minds about them, until finally they gained those rights and that support. Transactivism seems to be the only movement going the opposite way - they suddenly captured every institution in the West and have more support than any legitimate rights movement would ever dream of getting so fast (not to mention they have all the rights they claim not to have & more), yet the more TRUTH about them that the public learns, the more that that support seems to diminish & the more people are turning against them, not towards rhem

n3847:
It's funny when they try to compare themselves to Black people. Black people be like, "Being Black isn't a mental illness", lol. The same with women, being a woman is not a mental illness. Being gay is not a mental illness. It's used to be considered that but, it's not. Homosexuals don't think the OPPOSITE of reality. They're just another sexual orientation. The TRAs keep compare what they are doing to the Gay Rights Movement but they are not the same. Gay Rights Movement's goal was acceptance and assimilation - NOT domination. They didn't seek to brainwash kids into being anything. They didn't promote dangerous and unnecessary surgeries and hormones. They didn't want to invade women's spaces. They didn't seek to convince anyone they were anything, only accept THEM as they are. The more we learn about TR movement, the more I despise them.

I started out as "Transwomen are women", I'm now ready to outlaw "transition" surgeries - therapy ONLY, declare Gender/Trans ideology as a public health crisis, exclude teaching of Trans/Non-Binary anything in schools in all 50 states - LGB only, ban them from sports altogether, and go to the Supreme Court to throw them out of women's spaces in all 50 states

mathlover , VestalVirgin & TheChaliceIsMightier #transphobia ovarit.com

Utah bill would require inmates to be housed based on sex, creates transfer request system for transgender people - Deseret News

( mathlover )
This would be OK if it was acknowledged that 100% of the men who say they are women will be a threat to the safety of any/all women they would be incarcerated with. I think it is a waste of time and money to go through the motions. But OK, as long as there is only one outcome - people are imprisoned with others of the same biological sex.

( VestalVirgin )
Yeah, any man who wants to be imprisoned with women is a danger to women, because no decent man would demand that. Obviously.

And even a man who does not want to be imprisoned with women, because he isn't a rapist, would infringe on women's privacy if he were to be put in a women's prison, so ...

There is no kind of man who should be in a women's prison.

( TheChaliceIsMightier )
I think the statistic for how many female inmates have experienced sexual abuse of some kind is like 80% so yeah… none of them need the added trauma of having penises in their space.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

And how, pray tell, can you be sexually attracted to a feeling in someone else’s head?
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( istara )
Homosexual not homogender

( Unicorn )
Homogender lmao. I like it.

Let's start coining homogender and heterogender. If TIPs think gender is all that matters, while other people still live in reality where realize sexual beings are attracted to people with certain sexual organs, we can use words for them that better explain and delineate their sexist thinking.

Also I bet a lot of men nowadays are "heterogender" after decades of pornsickness and normalized misogyny. They're not attracted to female people, they're attracted to feminine ideals. Hence why there are men okay with HSTS partners who tend to rigidly perform femininity.

( MaryDyer )
I second this. I’ve started a rough draft of their new dictionary so they can stop stealing and twisting OUR words:

Gender: one’s internal sense of affinity for outdated sex-based stereotypes

Moman/birl: a male who identifies with the gender (sex-based stereotypes) historically associated with females

Wan/goy: a female who identifies with the gender (sex-based stereotypes) historically associated with males

Gender orientation: the gender that you are genderally attracted to

Genderal intercourse: also known as “having gender”; the joining together of two genders in a pleasurable union. See also: mind meld

Heterogenderal: attracted to the opposite gender

Homogenderal: attracted to the same gender

Mazerbae: a homogenderal moman

Wazerbae: a homogenderal wan

( istara )
Also, one can of course be both (effectively "super straight" - or "super gay" - that sounds fabulous, doesn't it?!)

( pennygadget )
"I wasn't initially attracted to that woman over there because I'm not a lesbian. But now that I see the 'he/him' pronoun badge, I suddenly see the inner man soul and want to ask him out!!" 😍

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Crowd cheered as two transgender women were attacked at Minneapolis rail station, advocates say

( dasehe )

After overhearing a group making derogatory remarks toward them at the station at Hennepin Avenue and Fifth Street in downtown Minneapolis, the pair “confronted” the group, which led to a “physical altercation,” Minneapolis Police told The Independent in a statement.

They should not have been attacked, but I'm not really interested in giving energy or compassion to TIMs at the moment. It's a very male response though.

( Joedi )
The last thing actual women would do is confront a bunch of men who were making derogatory remarks towards them.

( Mandy )
So a bunch of men got into a fight.

( notapatsy )
Exactly. Male behavior on both sides. If the two "transwomen" were really women, there is no way they would have confronted a crowd of men.

( shewolfoffrance )
See, it's because of incidents like this that I don't think TiMs are really that scared of male violence. They're definitely more cautious about starting something with other men, but they aren't exactly quaking in their sparkly pink boots. They like provoking a reaction and, if anything, they're more aggressive than the average man.

( hard_headed_woman )
People who are being "genocided" don't start fights.

( Carrots90 )
This works against our cause. Figures men will F this up

I mean, let’s see what the real story is.

[...]

This is a trans activist wet dream. Finally some transphobia to activate the activists.

Demand has been way outstripping supply when it comes to violence against TIMs. They are overwhelmingly perpetuating it

( Lillith )
Oh, I don't know. Being kind hasn't won us anything useful. Maybe this will drive some of them indo hiding or discourage others from ever transitioning.

And if the hecklers get away with it, it may make ppl less fearful of letting gender specials know how they really feel about them.

( Elizabelch )
We don't need this witch-hunt bullshit any more than we need men in women's restrooms.

However, the TIMs certainly got the female experience there. They'll have to learn to handle this like women do: Read the situation and most of the time, choose to ignore instead of escalate.

( neonbandit )
Must be nice to have male bone density when being attacked too.

Various Commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: When they say the majority of trans people never regret transitioning this is who they mean. These are the men we're sacrificing young girls for.

( SakuraBlossoms )
When a trans person doesn't regret transitioning, it's because their mental health issues were never treated. Same with the woman who blinded herself and was happy after. Same with people suffering from anorexia; they don't regret being dangerously underweight and instead want to be thinner, until the mental disorder and the distorted thinking it causes is properly treated.

It's so obvious that transitioning (physical) doesn't treat gender dysphoria (mental), such as with the despair that comes if someone "mistakes" them for a member of their sex. Or I would imagine if a guy like this just looked in the mirror. Although some of the men never had gender dysphoria to begin with and just did it for the coom.

(nopenottoday )
He won't be laughing when his bones are deteriorating and he's got some estrogen induced cancer


( Tortoisemouse )
There are so many parallels with anorexia.

( Every-Man-His-Own-Football )
Before ROGD, the majority of "trans people" were fetishistic transvestites / autogynephiles. They usually don't regret transitioning because it is sexually motivated. Their main regret is not transitioning earlier as they are erotically obsessed with "passing". They advocated for childhood transitioning aka. medical abuse of children, since they project their fetish onto gender-nonconforming children. In addition, most transvestites have a sissification / forced feminization fetish as well, i.e. they get aroused by the humiliation of a boy forced into stereotypically feminine dress, behavior, etc. And some of them are pedophiles.

MenHaveItEasy , crispycherrypie & BondiBlue #transphobia ovarit.com

“The main goal of lactation induction in transgender women may not necessarily be milk production, but rather the nonnutritional benefits that come from breastfeeding.”
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( MenHaveItEasy )
Lot of fancy words to say you believe men should be allowed to sexually abuse newborns for their AGP fetish.

This "male breastfeeding" shit is the single most horrific thing ever to come out of transgender activism. Im glad more people are finally seeing how dangerous and sick these men are.

Edit: Not to mention the risk of PTSD when these babies grow up and learned that their biological father posted pictures of themselves molesting their babies, and blogged about how they got off on it.

( crispycherrypie )
By "nonnutritional benefit" I assume they mean "sexual gratification".

( BondiBlue )
The participants in these "studies" and the people conducting them all need to be paid a visit by Chris Hansen.

Spencer_Shayy, Syndaballet & IrissaIridium #transphobia ovarit.com

Just steal some from a menopausal woman - it’s what you’ve been doing this entire time!
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( Spencer_Shayy )
What do you do? You stop taking hormones you don't need, you selfish piece of shit.

( Syndaballet )
Women actually need HRT. These fetishists are so sick to take medication away from actual women.

( IrissaIridium )
"HRT"? It's not hormone replacement therapy for you, sir. Hormone replacement therapy is when you (wait for it) replace hormones that your body once naturally produced but no longer does for various developmental or medical reasons. You're cramming exogenous hormones into a body that isn't meant to receive them because the practice pops your euphoria boner. That's not HRT, that's just a hormone force-feeding fetish (HFFF). (Coincidentally, "HFFF" is exactly the sound I make when I see men, yet again, trying to snatch women's scarce resources for themselves).

"A Penis is a Fucking Weapon" Award

Some classics never really fade away.

various commenters #transphobia #sexist ovarit.com

RE: Men use their penises as literal weapons of war, but we should be fine with them in our spaces.

( femlez34 )
100%. TIMs will say, "well we're not 'men' so that doesn't apply to us", but then in the same breath will threaten feminists with rape to try and get them back in line. I don't think they even realize how much they do this, it's so ingrained in their DNA.

( pepperbeth )
We have to start waking up - sexual violence is a huge motivator for many men, maybe "not all men" but huge numbers. Some will say "oh rape is about sex" "oh rape is about power" but let's allow men some intersectional analysis - sexual power is highly arousing to men. Dominating and harming others is arousing to men. They will watch violence in porn, they will enact it in the bedroom, they will buy slave women to harm for their own orgasms, and they will rape women and children, including their own fucking brothers and sisters, and they become especially aroused and predatory when when war grants them opportunity to rape many vulnerable potential victims.

Do women get aroused by the suffering of others? Not even Aileen Wournos can rival the most average of prostitute-murdering men. The penis isn't the scary part, it's the whole goddamn man.

( Fluffy_gender )
Yes, that's why I find it ridiculous when people say "rape/sex abuse is not about sex, it's about power". Well, power is indeed very sexualized for men...

( Pointer )
Men do seem to have "rape software" pre-installed. Makes sense from an evolutionary standpoint. They are actually able to maintain an erection and have an orgasm while penetrating someone who is screaming and crying in pain. It's crazy.

( Gladys_Kravitz )
Men are carrying loaded weapons at all times, and we're supposed to trust them completely and give them endless chances. It's fucking insane.

Edit: this is why self defense laws are such bullshit and deliberately harmful to women. We literally cannot act in self defense the way a man can. He can kill us with his bare hands in the heat of the moment, we cannot.

Fuck man, they literally kill us with their penises during violent rapes. There is no possibility of a woman killing a man using only her vulva/vagina, it's not the same act at all.

Trust no male, especially one that REALLY wants to violate your boundaries.

MaryDyer & PrincessCharming1983 #transphobia ovarit.com

( MaryDyer )
I’d sooner have my baby breastfeed from a nursing dog than a TIM
Like if I was in some crazy, life or death scenario where the only options for my baby to eat were a moobfeeding man or a mother dog with pups, I’d choose the dog.

For several reasons:

1. The baby would be receiving actual milk, not moob juice
2. Mother dogs aren’t goddamned perverts who get off on nursing
3. A mother dog is a FEMALE
Who agrees?

( PrincessCharming1983 )
Funny how it's called breastfeeding when a TIM wants to do it. But the rest of us get shoehorned into calling it chestfeeding because some women don't think they're women.

no- #transphobia ovarit.com

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Trans rights wants:

* External validation at all costs.
* The institutional and systemic erasure of the bodily reality of women and girls.
* No freedom of assembly for women.
* No safe intimate spaces for women.
* Free cosmetic surgery.
* Priest class status. No accountability for their sexual crimes and access to vulnerable victims.
* To freely practice exhibitionism and voyeurism.
* Indoctrinating children.
* Sterilizing children, LGB youth, and neurodivergent people.
* No free speech, especially for women.
* Suppressing female class consciousness.
* Deplatforming and harassing feminists.
* Replacing feminism with rape culture and postmodern identity politics.
* Inhumane medical experimentation (uterus transplants on men).
* Letting men with breastfeeding fetishes feed their questionable nipple discharge to infants.
* To force society at large to participate in men’s cross dressing and feminization fetishes.
* To allow women to be raped and impregnated by male inmates in prison.

Various TERFs #transphobia #psycho ovarit.com

( BlackCirce )
I’m glad to hear incarcerated women made him feel unsafe. I’m sure that’s true for all men like him and they should all be locked up with men


( GenderHeretic )
I remember reading on Gender Trender about a case of a TIM prisoner getting transferred to the women's prison ostensibly because it was "safer", and getting a transfer right back when the women there beat him up.

I was like, well, when they repeatedly state that their supposed reason for moving to the women's prison is "safety", they're literally telling women how to get rid of them.


( carpetplaydohx2 )
I was pleased to read that, too.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

( ItsCalculated )
Did anyone once/or still enjoy but now feel averse to things TIMs grabbed onto (thigh highs, mini skirts, etc.)
I love my thigh high socks. They keep my legs warm in the winter. I still like how my light, short skirts, keep me cool in the summer. I can't think of anything else off the top of my head, but. . . I now feel kind of averse to these things because TIMs have assumed use of them. Do any of you feel the same way? Have you actually given up any of these things to them or do you refuse to surrender things you like just because some man has a fetish about it?

( StealthRadfem )
I gave up dying my hair with funny colors. I do not want to be associated with TRAs at all.

( DurableBook )
Me too, I love crazy plumage and used to get a kick out of crazy hair colors, but now I just associate them with the gender equivalent of Jehovah's Witnesses..."Hi I'm Mx. Alex, do you have a moment to talk about my pronouns??"

( Ribbon_Rabbit )
I absolutely love pastel colors, but now I can't wear light blue and pink without feeling like I'm wearing a trans flag. They ruined the Pokémon Sylveon too. It's just a cute, colorful creature- not a "trans icon".

( Blais )
I like thigh highs for sure - they're warm and I like how "slouch socks" feel. Flower crowns. Arm-warmers. All those cutesy teenage comforts.

I haven't stopped using any of them, though. And I'm not going to. TIMs will find a way to fetishize anything. I'm pretty sure that if women everywhere stopped wearing short skirts or tight clothing or bright patterns or amything "stereotypically female", and started wearing baggy fits and muted colors, TIMs would find a way to fetishize it. They're the Rule 34 guys; it's what they do. So, I see no point in surrendering what makes me happy.

( Calidris )
Late to the party but feminine men!!!!!

It used to be when I saw a man with long hair, he'd usually be some kind of alternative, goth punk or just a dude who rocks long hair and doesn't give a shit. Now I have to fear it's a TIM light. It has exactly the opposite effect too, a man confidently rocking his long hair is sexy. A TIM trying to desperately copy us to get his rocks off is the least sexy thing I could possibly imagine, just gives me the icks and the creeps.

songoftheworms & Ava #transphobia ovarit.com

Yeah, and no need to define “liberty” either. Liberty can include shackles, what even are words, now shut up
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( songoftheworms )
[...]

More like, we're passionately telling you that in order for "women" to have liberation, "women" needs to first be defined. And defining women in terms of a discrete biological group is not only more accurate in terms of observable reality and the almighty lived experience, but also in pinpointing the axis by which our subjugation is enacted: Sex is why; gender is how. Who benefits by denying sex and embracing gender? Not women.

How often do you hear a newly minted "trans woman" talking about how he's 100% totally a woman in every way [mumble] except for, like, having been sexualised basically from birth, experiencing female puberty, menstruation, pregnancy, sex-based violence, lower lifetime wages... you know, all the insignificant shit that's naturally dwarfed by the fact that he really likes the colour pink? Who benefits from the view of "women" as artifice, frivolity and aesthetic, rather than the female mammals we very simply are? Not women.

Better to acknowledge the primacy of our biology than our embrace or rejection of odious misogynist stereotypes, I think, given that we aren't oppressed for being innately or irrepressibly "feminine," but for being quite inescapably (yes, even if we cut off our tits and root out our reproductive organs and change our name to Chad - especially then) female. Or is MacKinnon suggesting that identifying out of being oppressed is women's best hope for "producing liberation"?

( Ava )
She's literally acknowledging that the oppressors define women as a discrete biological group. Doesn't she think it's important to have a word for the group that's being oppressed? 🤨

And then her completely misrepresenting that Simone de Beauvoir quote is the cherry on top. Simone de Beauvoir was describing female socialization, which only happens...to females.

pennygadget, BellaBlue & capributterfly #transphobia ovarit.com

NYT/Siena poll: Biden has lost female support

( pennygadget )
[...]

Also (and I know many here will disagree with me on this), abortion has less of an impact on women's daily lives than all the other issues democrats are dropping the ball on. American women aren't getting abortions every week. But crime, the immigration clusterfuck, the loss of female language, the homeless issue, cost of living, being denied female-only spaces, being compelled to call AGPs "she", the public schools being shit, the death of Title IX, etc impact us in direct ways every day.

And even if someone is a One Issue Voter regarding abortion, we all know that Biden would federally outlaw abortion tomorrow if some TIM came to him and cried, "Abortion is transphobic because i can't have one!!!". So electing him isn't even a guarantee that abortion will remain legal in at least half the country

( BellaBlue )
Why wouldn't women support

-losing Title IX privileges such as female bathrooms, changing rooms, and sports in public schools

-losing spaces women fought to have, such as schools, bathrooms, prisons, nursing stations, locker rooms, etc.

-unrestricted mass immigration of undocumented men from cultures that tell them women are lesser beings and free for sexual harrassment

( capributterfly )
Imo Trump will be president again and it’s going to be partly on the Democrats. Their lax attitude on crime and homelessness, the border/illegal immigration, and obsession with eroding women’s rights for the benefit of trans people (mostly TIMs) may not end well for them.

Many Dem citizens were cool with these things too until it reached the point where it all started to affect them. Once nice areas of cities are becoming overrun with homeless mentally ill addicts, crime on public transit is (or seems to be at least) increasing, and the issue of TIMs in sports is becoming more common. All these issues seem to be coming to a point where even self-identified Democrats or left leaning people are waking up.

BondiBlue #transphobia ovarit.com

A trans woman joined a sorority. Then her new sisters turned on her.

[he] discovered [his] name on neo-Nazi websites

LOL, it sounds like dude may have found his name on the legendary birdwatching forum, and WaPo is bitter they couldn’t destroy it despite Taylor Lorenz’s best efforts. He made the Internet hall of shame and he’s salty.

The Farms is not a Nazi site; its owner/founder is Jewish, and among its membership are other socially introverted autistics who use those like Artemis and his ilk as an example of what not to become, in their quest to better themselves despite life dealing them a rough go of it.

There’s also a gender-critical subforum that specifically discusses TRAs and the reality-denying, destructive ideology that has completely engulfed the world, and shoved the rights and dignity of women, children, the disabled, LGB people, freedom of thought, association, creed, and expression, and the credibility of institutions, into a woodchipper — with the words “Be Kind” painted on it in big, bold letters (and “or else” in the fine print).

Mostly, they just like to laugh at people like Artemis who make a public spectacle of themselves. And who doesn’t, really. It’s not a neo-Nazi belief or practice to be repulsed by pathological liars and sexual predators, or to find whiny and entitled losers who make a (literal) federal case out of mere disagreements something to be pointed at and mocked.

It’s you, hi, you’re the problem, and (almost) everyone agrees.

Persimmon64 #transphobia #homophobia ovarit.com

RE: A transcript of an argument I saw on Twitter between a libfem 'owning' a radfem on being cisgender. Who do you ladies think won the argument?


Being cisgender does not mean you can't be gender non-conforming.

Being gender non-conforming means you don't fall in line with the stereotypical behaviors or appearances typical of your sex. How is this different than being "trans"? What makes a "trans" person different from a "GNC" person? Neither act like a "typical" person of their sex. Neither wish to act or appear as a stereotype of their sex.

If you think sex-based oppression 'just exists' and isn't a social construction, then it would be impossible for a society to exist without it.

This is a nonsensical statement. The radfem is saying sex-based oppression is not a social construct and exists with our without society. Why would it be impossible for society to exist without something that is not a social construct? Wheels aren't a social construct. Is it also impossible for society to exist without wheels?

Why does violent homophobia against gay men exist?

Gay men are insulted, attacked, and killed because their actions are viewed as gross and sinful. Gay men are equal in strength to other men and have had the same rights in all areas of life, even marriage rights. They had the same right to marry a woman as every other man had and many have done so. Being insulted and laughed at, even beat up for your actions is not oppression. That happens to anyone who is viewed as weird, of a lower class, or sinful.

[...]

Having graduate degrees in sociology is what makes you a sociologist

Are you saying that an identity like "sociologist" actually corresponds to a material reality with characteristics and qualifications? What if I identify as a sociologist? Why isn't that viable and accepted but identifying as a woman is? Aren't degrees social constructs as well?. Much more so than being a woman is

various commenters #homophobia #kinkshaming #sexist ovarit.com

RE: The number of gay men defending porn is disturbing.

( Artemis_Lives )
Being exploitative and predatory is a fixture of male sexuality, gay or straight. The sex industry only exists because men in general create the demand.

( Unicorn )
To be honest, I'm not surprised, gay men are still men. Males are the group of people who overwhelmingly watch and are addicted to porn. I'm sure gay porn is just as harmful to a healthy sexuality as the porn aimed at heterosexual males, so yeah, "my porn only objectifies and dehumanizes men" isn't the great argument they think it is.

( sanitycheck )
Men are who they are. And who they are is largely testosterone-driven great apes with terrible socialization that encourages them to be selfish and repress any emotions. I think its a straight womans fantasy that gay men will somehow understand or care about our oppression. Gay men are still men, they can be misogynistic and awful, and they can believe that women would think it is their biological destiny to be oversexed dolls for men to play with. Watch ru pauls drag race if you dont believe me.

Not all gay men are like this- but I think youd set yourself up to fail if you start off expecting them to be wonderful like Kurt from Glee or Mitch and Cam character from Modern Family.

( Philogynist )
Yes, they aren't all like this in my experience but they aren't all wonderful. I've spoken to many gay men who are now "identifying as asexual" simply because they don't fit in with the hypersexualized gay male culture and have normal, healthy boundaries. And there are many disconnected from mainstream gay male/"LGBT" culture who don't fit in with the focus on gay porn, the flamboyant misogyny disguised as jokes, or the stereotypes.

However, I can no longer stand to socialize with any gay or bisexual men who can be found around gay bars, gay events, or parties. And I've worked with many in jobs even outside of these places who are just terrible people and have regretted assuming they were more trustworthy than heterosexual men. I think how "plugged into" mainstream "LGBTQ" culture, drag, and the gay party scene they are makes a huge difference.

various commenters #transphobia #kinkshaming ovarit.com

Pornhub Wants to Turn Straight Men Gay Says Michael Knowles - Metro Weekly

( Clarus )
Pornhub has been exposed pushing a lot of transgender content, even saying it can help people find their sexual identity.

Over time, we see more and more that most transgender individuals are just perverts created by mass porn-watching, who want to emulate what they see. Porn-addiction is a major factor in transitioning.

( Mandy )
And all of this has gone hand in hand with a societal push not to kink-shame.

I think we need more kink-shaming. Keep it in the bedroom, don't parade it around in public. Let the private stay private.

( Mandy )
Pretty sure it's not possible to "turn someone gay" unless they are that way inclined already.

AGP men are straight men obsessed with becoming the object of their own desires. Other TIMs are gays in denial.

In the same way, a lot of TIFs are yaoi-addled girls and women who yearn for that perfect gay relationship of two equal partners devoted to each other through thick and thin. Or lesbians in denial.

Hypno sissy porn has nothing to do with lesbians, just as yaoi is nothing to do with real gay sex and relationships.

( happy-harpy )
I think that men’s sexuality is more opportunistic than women’s. They famously stick their dicks in anything and prison gay is a thing and all that. Turning people gay is stupid, right-wing fear-mongering but it doesn’t surprise me that porn is warping the sexuality of men who watch it. It’s basically propaganda that you masturbate to.

TheSimbul, WinterWitch & Wristfevers #kinkshaming #transphobia ovarit.com

Genital fetish uwu
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( TheSimbul )
The phrase kink-shaming should never be used.

People are going to judge you on your sexual habits. Get over it.

( WinterWitch )
If you are going to try and force other people to participate in your kink they get to judge you for it. Don’t want to be judged? Keep it in your own home.

( Wristfevers )
Kinkshaming and refering to ppl depending on their sex assigned at birth is my kink and if you don't like it then you are a hater, a bigot, you have cooties and stop genociding mee. UwU.

jelliknight #transphobia ovarit.com

JK Rowling hate law posts not criminal - police


I think the women of scotland need a "womens rights day of visibility" just tweeting shit like "women exist." And "men cant wish themselves into being women" and "women are women. Transwomen are men." And "male rapists dont belong in womens prisons" and "transathletes are failed athletes" and even "if this makes you want to kill yourself, good riddance."

Each tweet should end with the phone number/website where people who are offended can report them.

While there are still lots of eyes on this the women of scotland need to pin down exactly where the line is. Best case the police get so overwhelmed with phone calls and emails they shut it down.

SecondSkin, CryingInYourInbox & shewolfoffrance #transphobia ovarit.com

They’re still pushing the “cis women get aroused by themselves as women too” bullshit
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( SecondSkin )
But… so what if women did? It doesn’t involve us violating other women’s boundaries even if some women did. Apg is a boundary violation paraphilia, it doesn’t exist without violating women’s boundaries and making us scared and unsafe. Even if there were women who get off on the idea of being a woman, they are women and that reality doesn’t involve forcing others to comply to their delusions and demands. So it’s a false equivalency. It’s like saying people who are only happy when others agree the world is flat = people who are only happy when others agree the world is not flat. It’s nonsense on stilts.

( CryingInYourInbox )
Right like let's say theyre correct and women express the same sexual behaviors we would consider to be AGP on males...the fact that they're similar wouldn't be a coincidence, it would be both women and men emulating the idea of what men find arousing. Men are the gatekeepers of sexuality, like literally. They lock women up it chastity belts and kill them for having sex. We haven't been allowed to express sexuality outside of what males deem palatable so of course there would be overlap between a woman self objectify and AGP type behaviors

( shewolfoffrance )
I mean, even if women were engaging in inappropriate sexual behavior in women-only spaces at the same rates men do (they really, really aren't), other women would at least be able to report them and take the appropriate next steps. That isn't the case with TiMs. They have Teflon armor. Even in online spaces that informally meant for women, TiMs who display obviously fetishistic behavior are treated with kid gloves, and the spaces slowly die because women would generally rather quietly pack up and go than get metaphorically burned as a witch.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

How Trump’s Trans Order Sows Chaos for Federal Prisoners, Staff | The Marshall Project

( Carrots90 )
Love how it didn’t sow chaos when TIMs were moved into the female estate

But putting men with other men is noteworthy

( ArtemisCitrine )
Exactly. So sick of all these articles lately full of sympathy for TIMs and how afraid they are of the men's prisons.

( Carrots90 )
Him-pathy, TIM-pathy dock

In service to his cock

He lost his wife and effed up his life

Just to wear a frock

( notapatsy )
Sixteen TIMs in federal prisons and they get their own council?

I'd also worry that those who were removed from the women's prison and then re-released into the women's prison will take out their anger and frustration on the women inmates.

( GenXer )
Women saw this coming the moment that TWAW took root. Now men, you have to accept reality!

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Pentagon Begins to Implement TIP Policy in Military

( VestalVirgin )
I am mildly curious just how much money Trump's new politics will save the state. 🤔

He is doing a lot of shit that will cost money down the line (apparently he's appeasing Covid-deniers by stopping the funding of epidemic tracking), but trans shit is so expensive (and a "gift that keeps giving", but in reverse, from the perspective of those who have to pay for it) that I wonder if he might actually save money, in total.

( Mizuna )
You can't put a price on morale. Transgenders in the military drive down recruitment, and they make our military look like a joke. Social media is full of memes like this dunking on the US military. Do you think China or Russia find this intimidating? They're probably laughing at how far our military has fallen.

( LunarMoose )
the idea that we pay for this and don't get soldiers who are 'combat ready' is insane. That's the whole premise of signing up - to be ready to fight.

But. Please. Let me just read one article in which combat readiness is raised in the msm........

( LilianH )
The actual cost of the medial transition is probably not a huge amount considering the size of the US defence budget, but a TIP can't really fulfil the role of the soldier or be deployed so removing them from the army completely might start to save a few billions a year.

( VestalVirgin )
Yeah, it isn't just the cost of their surgeries and stuff, it is also the fact that they pay a soldier who takes a lot of time off, so isn't even working 100% at desk jobs, and isn't combat ready on top of that.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Full Frontal attack on Women's Rights by the NY Times

( Peppermint )

Some say that foster children were being targeted

If this is true I would believe it. Its obvious to me the whole case surrounding Keira Bell is one of racism (removal of her reproductive organs), misogyny and tokenism. Foster children are defenseless, what better group to target for the trans cult?

The article mentions that trans are a "small part of the population" so why do they also mention the fucking miracle that is thousands of trans in the US military? we all know they are there for free cosmetic surgery. They aren't there to serve anybody but themselves.

Big Pharma is definitely mad. Take the free money away and the number of the trans diagnosis will drop like like a stone. None of it was real.

[...]

( pennygadget )
I would 100% believe that foster kids are groomed into the gender cult. They don't have stable families to protect them from creeps. Most of them are damaged from trauma and abuse (both physical and sexual). And many of them are desperate to find a place/community where they can belong. They are prime targets for trans groomers

( SarahWilliams_13 )
In regard to the military aspect, my therapist recently asked me how I felt (she’s GC and pretty open) about it and I asked her: well, is gender dysphoria/ dysmorphia a mental illness?

She said good question. She then said that they are currently trying to change the DSM to state that it is not a mental illness. They want all that removed, so there’s no aspect connected to mental health.

I haven’t had a chance to run it down, but she’s no conspiracy theorist and is very concerned about these things.

( OneStarWolf )
Haha wow. So they want to pretend it’s normal for people to threaten suicide if they don’t get to cut off healthy body parts and induce hormonal disorders??

But of course they still want medical insurance to be forced to cover all their cosmetic surgeries and drugs, even though it wouldn’t be considered a mental health condition any longer 🙃

These entitled assholes just want preferential treatment and free rein on surgery and drugs on their say so, no medical diagnosis needed at all! Make it make sense! You can’t, because it’s backwards cult logic.

variuos commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: By barring trans women from women’s sports, NCAA sides with bigots

( OneStarWolf )
It’s the complete opposite, you gaslighting poor excuse for an article. Biology is a bigot then. But really, the writer of this article is a raging, bigoted misogynist piece of crap that really thinks women’s reality is not worth respecting as long as a man’s feelings aren’t put first. Fuck off, dude.

( worried19 )
I wish MSN had the comments open. No way they would have been favorable to this idiot.

This level of delusion takes some work. I know the author is trans identified. Has he truly convinced himself that there are no physical differences between male and female athletes? Or he knows there are differences and just doesn't care?

( Lillith )
If he didnt think there were differences, he wouldn't insist on accessessing women's spaces. It would be all the same.

As it is, he knows that women are weaker and make an easier target than say, the male twinks that he may (also) be into.

( Terfisnotadirtyword )
It's so funny that comments for every pro trans story are turned off. It's almost like they know that people are massively against it and will say so! But how insecure that they can't even allow a conversation to happen.

( DurableBook )
I mean sure, I bet there are some bigots who happen to agree that transwomen are men. There are also lots of bigots who agree that it's cold out in the Midwest right now. Is the National Weather Service "siding with bigots" if it issues winter weather advisories?

( asmahan )
And vegetarians side with Hitler. I am glad to see that this particular line of "reasoning" is starting to lose its power a bit.

( Arenlaef2 )
We don't care, lol. That word holds no power anymore. Personally, I think it's pretty bigoted to tell women to be quiet and smile when cheating men take their spots on teams and awards, or walk around with their dicks out in their locker rooms but I consider women to be human beings worthy of respect, which TRAs do not.

Anyway 8 out of 10 people are bigots then. And the extra two can scream and stop their feet and tear out their hair but women's sports will continue to be for women. Have all the tantrums you want. No one cares.

( TheSimbul )
Reality is a bigot, then.

( Itzpapalotl )
Reality, nature, biology...All bigots!

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

( Turtlefuzz )
First they came...
First they came for the cheating males, and I did not speak out-

Because I was not a cheating male.

Then they came for the rapists, and I did not speak out-

Because I was not a rapist.

Then they came for the child mutilators, and I did not speak out-

Because I was not a child mutilator.

Then they came to me, and told me I could live my life again. And all my sisters spoke out-

Because now we could.

( MagnificentMildew )
I was actually literally just thinking about this yesterday, about how fucking gross it is that wokies have been using this quote in regards to Trump's EO about TIMs.

Libs, banning cross dressing perverts from beating up and raping female athletes and prisoners is not remotely similar to how Jews and communists/socialists were treated by Nazis during the fucking Holocaust. The fact you shitheads even think such a comparison is remotely appropriate is proof of how fucking out of touch the left has become. Like seriously, get fucked.

( SarahWilliams_13 )
I’ve heard them say that trans people are experiencing genocide.

No, Bill, it’s not genocide that you can’t wear a wig and use the woman’s locker room.

( littleowl12 )
I really hate that poem now because I can see it for the tyranny that it really is.

"YOU have to protect ME because THEY hate you even more than I do."

( DarthVelma )
My issue is that they've been coming for women's rights for my entire 50+ years and none of these people who want my help now ever gave a shit. They're not coming for TIMs "first". It's self-centered, ahistorical nonsense to pretend they are. They're literally the people at the end of that poem where there's no one else left to help them because they never bothered to give a shit and notice, much less help, the groups that were already being "come for".

( Turtlefuzz )
I've been seeing a lot of posts in online LGB spaces with the quote from pastor Martin Niemöller in regards to Trump's Executive Orders.

I am not Jewish, but the constant comparison to the Holocaust is insulting and disturbing.

I made this post to remind all the boot-licking, dick-pandering handmaidens that this is what you are saying we should defend. This behavior, this anti-woman sentiment, this atrociously MALE movement.

Thank you for reading.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

If you’re against males in female spaces then you obviously disbelieve all female victims too
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( mathlover )
But they do harm women by their violation of women's spaces. They terrorize women.

A fox in a henhouse is a predator even if it never touches any of the chickens. The fox never belongs in the henhouse; it is a predator just by being where it will never belong.

Men never belong in womens spaces no matter how they "identify" or what they do, or don't do, to their bodies. They are always predators just by being - even just by wanting to be - where they will never belong.

( BlukBerry )
That's what these men don't understand or don't even care about.

The very presence of a man in women's spaces is violating, no matter what he's doing or not doing. Donning lipstick and a wig (or, thanks to self-ID, doing nothing at all) doesn't make a man a woman and it's absurd to argue otherwise.

( Lemon_Quiche )
It's funny because TRAs don't believe the (largely female) victims of TIMs.

To the OOP (if you happen to rage-lurk this site): I believe women AND I'm against males in female spaces, and those both come from the same place.

( pennygadget )
Wait. When did Nancy Mace go after a real woman for using the ladies room because she thought it was a TIM?

( marciekr )
I can't remember her name but there was an overly-stylized Republican woman that Mace called a trans woman which was in the news for a day. The woman just laughed about it IIRC.

( TrappedInACar )
I’m not sure she did. I’m not American so I might have missed something but I’m pretty sure I would have heard of that. Cool story to talk about an imaginary TIM who could have died though, right?

( drdeeisback )
I think he's literally saying an actual woman might 'lose her life' if she were 'accused' of being trans...because you know women murder other women in bathrooms all the time for no reason at all. And (contrary to any actual statistics) TIMs are being murdered right and left for no reason at all.

various commenters #racist #transphobia ovarit.com

As Ground Shifts, ‘Flailing’ Democrats Struggle to Find Footing in Diversity Fight - The New York Times

( crodish )
Get fucked, all of you who ever supported and enabled this insidious movement and shamed women who spoke up about it.

If you want to know why Trump is in charge it's because there WERE no left leaning parties who stood up to this shit.

( Peppermint )
Sounds like the official end of the democrats. If they keep at this, I will actually vote Republican next time.

( LunarMoose )
This really makes me angry: > But Republicans soon tapped into a backlash, turning a once-obscure academic concept, critical race theory, into a rallying cry against what they portrayed as reverse discrimination, and laying the groundwork for Mr. Trump’s more aggressive push against diversity-related efforts.>

It is not 'obscure'. Nearly all of my childs HS teachers use this in the classroom as FACT. How did the students react? The students all tried to identify out of their race/privilege. How'd they do that? The same way my graduate class did it. Some 'came out' as mentally ill (depression, anxiety and more). Others revealed they were poor and had few resources at home. And others talked about their families 'lack of privilege'. Many id'ed as 'non-binary' or 'trans'.

CRT is not obscure. It's taught EVERYWHERE. FWIW, It belongs in the world as a theory. It does NOT belong in HS taught as absolute fact. And it for sure doesn't belong in grammar school.

( ProfTerfMom )
They’re not flailing; they remain willingly chained inside the Allegory of the Cave celebrating their shadow reality.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

California parole agent allegedly tricks transgender woman into leaving home, leading to arrest by ICE agents

( Mizuna )
Remember that infamous "Kamala is for they/them" political ad where she supported transgender surgeries for illegal immigrants? This is a real life example of what Harris advocated for.

( Lipsy )
Not just Harris on this one. Expediting the whole asylum process for "LGBTQ refugees"—which, realistically 98-99 percent of the time, is going to mean "recidivist violent perps who realize that this isn't just a dream, and that they really might just have green cards handed to them on platters simply for saying the magic words at the border" (with profuse apologies to the MAYBE 1 or 2 percent who are actually genuine homosexuals, and therefore actually genuine refugees)—was actually a plank in the published Democratic party platform for both 2020 and 2024.

( Carrots90 )
Couldn’t they have put an envelope labeled ’tween porn’ or ‘lesbians who want girl c*ck’ on the end of a fishing line

Then trapped him with a big net when he ran over?

( sylviasmushrooms )
This is exactly how I pictured it.

( Peppermint )
This was the only way I imagined it could have happened.

( Mirren )
I'm underwhelmed by this whole episode. Person who served time for murder got caught by the police for committing another crime (being in a foreign country illegally)... am I supposed to give a toss? I don't give a toss.

If this person had been trapped by a bear trap or forced out of the house at gunpoint or something violent... I might have given half of one per cent of a toss.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

They really do tell on themselves
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( Lipsy )
Not to be mistaken for an opinion on Project 2025 as a whole, but—— ❤︎❤︎❤︎ I love that paragraph so much. Every single word of it, just YES.

111 words of poetic, aspirational, beauty—thinly disguised as stolid, moralizing prose—written by someone who has clearly listened, thoughtfully and critically, to the concerns of radical feminists and Women in general.
Thank you to both /u​/civillycrass and @​NastasyaFilipovna for the unexpected little booster shot of gratification from reading these lovely words again.

( RusticTroglodyte )
I like it too but it's based on religious beliefs. Nobody who wrote this listened to radical feminists or women. The idea of the Heritage Foundation and it's ilk listening to radfems a pipe dream

( Iota_Aurigae )
The conservatives think that transgenderism doesn't oppress women the "correct" way, which is why so many of them are against it.

( NastasyaFillipovna )
It's like they are calling a spade, a spade. Totally see what's underneath the UwU mask of this trans insanity

( vulvapeople )
Likely the single good thing in that entire document, and TIMs are having meltdowns over it.

( Mandy )
Why would banning pornography cause real harm to transgender people? It certainly wouldn't cause real harm to real women.

( Evileine )
Where would the trans community be without sissy porn?

( Mignonette )
Of course they're upset. That's their entire lives on the line. I mean what's next? Redefining what it means to be a woman by claiming women aren't just sex toys? /s

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

US judge temporarily blocks transfer of incarcerated trans women to men’s prisons | US news | The Guardian

( OneStarWolf )
Why wasn’t there a judicial block to stop these assholes from being put in to the women’s prisons from the very beginning? Like wtf? No one cared???

And now they’re being blocked when sanity says to fix it and return them to keep women safe. What a joke.

Put these male bastards back in their prisons and have them petition for protective wards just like any other vulnerable males might have to. Mentally ill men in prison are no more special or vulnerable than any other weak man in prison.

( Ladylucy )
I was thinking a while back about women’s prisons and TIMs in them. After WWII, we signed the Geneva Convention, and a section stated that POW camps had to separate men and women. Women should have their own sleeping areas, restrooms and showers.Now, maybe I’m being ignorant—always a possibility—but why wouldn’t PRISONER of War prisons apply to the prisons of the countries who signed? American prisons are allowing men in women’s prisons—violating women’s rights to safety, privacy and dignity. I know this is not a war situation, but I would be interested in anyone out there with a legal background giving your opinion. Can the two be equated?

( pennygadget )
This has always bothered me as well. Housing males and females together would be a war crime if we did it to literal terrorists. But not when we do it to some woman who is in jail for shoplifting or check fraud

( Lillith )
Oh, I think the Geneva Convention would be overruled for a crossdressing terrorist, if it's any consolation.

( Iota_Aurigae )
These assholes only think rape is bad when it happens to a man.

Housing men in women’s prisons is such cruel and unusual punishment that the Geneva Convention outlaws it.

( Ariti )
From what I’ve heard, the Trump admin legal team agrees with the judge (risk of harm to the trans women). And the Trump team failed to argue harm to the female inmates (justifying transfer of trans women). This is precisely the thing that worries about leaving this battle in the hands of the Trump admin and EOs - I don’t trust them to mount a cogent case. They certainly didn’t here.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Thousands march at trans youth rallies opposing Queensland puberty blockers ban, organiser says | Transgender | The Guardian

( FemmeEtal )
Like Helen Joyce has said, the parents will be the last ones holding out worldwide. They can’t stop pushing because if they do, even for a moment, the reality that they destroyed their child because they fell for something completely stupid and illogical, will come down upon them like a ton of bricks.

I had a lady at work yesterday who’s transing her 12 year old daughter. I about bit my tongue off trying to stay quiet, and still couldn’t. I managed to say that testosterone was incredibly dangerous for females. Then she went on to assure me the doctor tells them all the potential side effects so they’re informed. ??? WTF… are you not listening??

( OnlyHuman )
Being aware of the side effects means they will never happen, somehow

( FemmeEtal )
Exactly, and survivorship bias. “No medication a doctor prescribed has ever collapsed my endocrine system so this one won’t! Even though that’s the MOA!”

The conversation started because she was complaining that the hospital called to say they need to change treatment because of the EO. (I had to poker face my relief) Then went on to say they were just going to finagle some work around loophole so the prescription can be filled elsewhere

( legopants )
The biggest cosplay of a civil rights movement to date.

( Ladylucy )
The problem is that there is no evidence based trans healthcare. There have been zero long term, controlled studies on the use of puberty blockers or cross sex hormones in children. Sorry, TRAs.

( solitaire )
The crazy thing is Queensland is one of the more conservative parts of Australia, but there’s still clearly a lot of people there that have drunk the gender ideology Kool-Aid.

pennygadget , WrongToy & Cattitude #transphobia ovarit.com

Republican introduces Tim McBride as male on house floor

( pennygadget )
Good! I love to see powerful TIMs get a taste of reality. Timmy McBride isn't having as much fun now that the Biden family is no longer in power and forcing everyone to kiss his ass.

( WrongToy )
Tim McBride himself is proving he can just go forward with his speeches and other house functions regardless of whether he is called a “him” or told he can’t access women’s toilets because he is a him.

( Cattitude )
What makes me snort about this is that McBride is no gentleman. No crossdressing pervert is.

littleowl12 , MatchaMeercat & Leithriel #transphobia ovarit.com

When you try to speak sense to the volontairement stupide!

( littleowl12 )
Tolstartheking is an all-star moron:

Have you ever read “first they came”?

I've come to hate this poem. It locks people into supporting things that they don't believe and may even harm them, and it honestly feels like a cult-coercion tactic. "Take my side or they'll come for YOU. You must obey me, because the rest of the world hates you more than I do."

Lethonal's response (I used only this part):

Believe it or not, abortion access is not the priority of every woman in the United States at the moment, some women believe being able to organize and define who/what women are in law is, because you can't write laws that protect women if a woman cannot be adequately defined in law. Conversely, laws cannot be written that harm women if women cannot be adequately defined in law either unless you do the patriarchy a solid and only attack women on the basis of their reproductive ability. Are you really going to fault feminists for playing chess on these issues when everyone else is trying to make them play checkers?

Abortion is a very big deal, but I like his analogy that we now have to play chess instead of checkers.

( MatchaMeercat )
Also there is only so long the Democrats can dangle that particular carrot without actually doing anything to enshrine reproductive rights into federal law before their “protection” rings hollow.

( Leithriel )
I don't disagree. But how can one defend women's reproductive rights without language that allows us to protect women? I get what they are saying but I agree that abortion access is a paramount issue for women.

Senpai Noticed Us!

Julie92845 #transphobia #senpai_noticed_us ovarit.com

RE: Ovarit is often featured on FSTDT!

(Julie92845)
I don't know if I can post directly to it, but FSTDT stands for Fundies Say the Darndest Things. It's a sad shadow of its former self, but it's a collection of posts from religious nuts and right wingers from all over the internet. And Ovarit is often quoted for our anti-trans comments.

The best part is that people can comment on our quotes, and you'll find a lot of good stuff for o/translogic there as well. I've been having fun reading through them and seeing their insane takes, like we are denying reality and substituting our own.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Weird argument from a Democratic friend about Trump's EO on sports

( Hollyhock )
Trump said he would protect women regardless if they want it. So, she's just using this thing he said and applying rather than look at the actual reasoning for why men shouldn't be in women's sports.

Just ask her, "Do you think men should play on all women's sports?"

( astro_terf )
These terminally online women don't want to admit the reality that men are stronger period.

As for trans identified females, it depends on whether or not they have taken testosterone. If yes, they have essentially doped and can only participate in the men's category. Same applies to the trans identified males. Only the women's category is protected. The men's category is open.

( pennygadget )
I've heard this argument before. Most of the people who make it haven't played sports since middle school and don't understand what they're talking about or why Title IX was created to begin with

I like to ask these people this: If physical differences really don't matter, why not campaign to make ALL sports co-ed instead of maintaining male and female divisions?

The answer: TIMs don't do it because the colonization is the point. Its no fun if the sports teams are all sausage fests (which they would be if all sports were co-ed)

( syntaxerror )

lefty women can get upset by any attention to the athletic difference between men and women.

I understand the impulse to bristle when someone points out the true fact that women are physically weaker than men. I hated it for years when I was younger. However. I had male friends that proved to me from a young age that men are (easily) stronger than me, and I feel like that’s an important lesson for young girls.

Trying to pretend like these differences don’t exist will only harm girls and women in the long run, clearly.

Is it fair? No. It’s not fair that women are weaker, have to bear children. But it’s how it is, and we need to work as feminists with this in mind.

( NastasyaFillipovna )
Exactly. It's a very important lesson, for their own safety. We need to learn that when it's important, we need to fight dirty.

That's why I hate these new superhero movies which ridiculously shows women beating men twice their size just by training harder. That's not how it works. Size difference is massive.

ProxyMusic #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Weird argument from a Democratic friend about Trump's EO on sports

Today a friend said that what's wrong with Trump's EO is: "It's one way, and that is unfair. It bans transgenders in women's sports but not men's sports." After I pointed out that "the order bans MALES in women's sports, not trans athletes..." her reply was that the EO, by saying only women's sports needs protection, is casting women as vulnerable helpless creatures and Republicans as their great protectors and she finds that false and offensive.

[...]

A new memo seems to gone out from TRA HQ to all Dems and trans "allies" in the USA advising them to use this line of reasoning as a new ploy. Coz I've seen the same exact nonsense today on a sports forum where I post.

The new line of reasoning they're using seems to be based on the assumption that there's something weak, deficient and shameful about being the member of a group that benefits from laws and policies that provide protections against

By their logic, all Americans should be embarrassed by the protections provided by the First Amendment, by the Equal Protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, and by the Environmental Protection Agency - coz they show us to be creatures who are weak and vulnerable. By their reasoning, laws that provide workplace protections mean everyone who works for a living, or has ever applied for a job, is weak and vulnerable; and wearing protective personal equipment or using a seatbelt is a sign of weakness and helplessnessness too. Having a homeowner's protection policy or product warranty means you're weak and helpless. And so on...

It's all nonsense.

Also, the only reason that the female category of sports needs protection is that boys and men and the gender idenity supremacy movement have mounted a full-scale attack and hostile takeover attempt on girls' and women's sports and spaces. Armed with phony baloney claims about gender identity, legions of aggressive, pushy, grabby, entitled, colonizing boys and men have plotted to pull off a full-scale invasion of the female category; and with the help of their "allies," males have attempt to colonize the female category and call it their own. The fact that the female category needs protection against boys, men and the GI supremacy movement as a whole reflects more poorly on them than it does on us.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

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( Mandy )
How will witholding hormones from men who claim to be women prevent women from getting the treatment they need?

( Alias_Rosie )
I really don't understand the logic leap here. It can be hard to get a diagnosis and treatment for endometriosis, but that's because a lot of doctors are misogynistic and/or undereducated in women's health, not because of executive orders and legislation. Like...what?!?!?!

( pothosvari_ )
It’s forced teaming again. They’re labeling treatment for endometriosis “gender affirming” I’m assuming which is incredibly disrespectful and condescending. Laparoscopies, birth control, vaginal ultrasounds etc aren’t “gender affirming”. It’s needed sex based care for a condition that affects women.


Ah yes, the notoriously under-diagnosed and under-researched pretty exclusively female sex-specific, often debilitating condition with very few treatment options available except cutting out tissue in severe cases. Imagine what might be possible with just a fraction of the funding that's getting thrown at gender ideology if it got put towards endo-research, potentially making a huge difference in quality of life for approximately 10% of women around the world. There might even be medical care to offer women beyond over the counter painkillers, heating pads, attempts to stop the menstrual cycle, or a hysterectomy after years of excruciating pain!

( shewolfoffrance )
I honestly think they especially enjoy extracting concessions from women who are already vulnerable or struggling. Women in DV shelters, female prisoners, girls and women in states of undress, etc. It's sadistic.

( OwnLyingEyes )
Think for many, part of their fucked-up pathology is a need to be seen as the biggest victim in the room, so they target those women and then demand they grovel put their real problems last in order to validate, validate, validate how much more important it is to give TIMs whatever they want.

( shewolfoffrance )
That's how they get power (on the left, at least): sitting on top of the victim totem pole.

( OwnLyingEyes )
They definitely exploit it, but think many of them get off on it too, whether sexually or it scratches some other mental 'itch' for them...or all of the above.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

What to know about Trump's ban of transgender women from sports - ESPN

( Eava )
Transgender women aren't banned from sports. They can compete with the men.

( notsofreshfeeling )
It's interesting how liberals will say, "So few female athlete will be affected, so what's the big deal?" and in the same breath, "It's an absolute travesty of justice that these few transgender people can't play sports!"

Why is it that a few women do not matter, yet a few men matter enough to have a complete meltdown?

Edit: I'd encourage people to say in response to these meltdowns, "It's such a small minority of 'trans people' who are affected, so why do you care?" Just like they said to us.

( Itzpapalotl )
Not read the article but...what is there to know? No men in women’s sport seems pretty cut and dry 🤷🏻‍♀️

( Peppermint )
I came here to say this. Who other than someone with an agenda would make an article like this? The only thing to know is men aren't allowed in women's sports. Period.

( Pickles )

At the NCAA level, president Charlie Baker said at a congressional hearing in December that fewer than 10 NCAA athletes used the association's transgender athlete eligibility policy. More than 530,000 athletes compete in the NCAA.

Yep. It's pretty fucking wild that so many people in charge thought it was OK to remove access to safe and fair competition for over half a million girls so that fucking ten men didn't have to hear "no".

Sure, you can try to spin this as "hardly any men choose to make use of this wildly irresponsible and unfair abuse of the rights of women and girls", but i see it differently. Anywhere that allows boys to identify their way onto girl's teams is telling girls "you can have your own leagues if every single boy decides to let you retain it. However if even one boy want to take that from you he can."

( notsofreshfeeling )
Oh no, where will all the mediocre male athletes on wrong-sex hormones compete? So awkward! Female athletes don't need fair sports; we all know women just want to "be kind" and have everyone walk all over them. It's our nature!

Arenlaef, vulvapeople & crodish #transphobia ovarit.com

Democrat AGs tell doctors to defy Trump's orders and keep giving sex change surgeries to trans kids | Daily Mail Online

( Arenlaef )
I think the Democratic party may actually be fully irredeemable now. I was hoping after the election they'd cool it, but that one guy in Massachusetts tried by saying he didn't want boys on his daughters' sports teams and his own staff organized a revolt against him.

Republicans are never going to be women's friends or allies, but we clearly can't move forward with this current iteration of "left" either. We are well and truly trapped right now.

( vulvapeople )
All they had to do here was defer to the feds, and, if they're really dedicated to the trans cult, to lie in wait for the next four years. I guess it's good for the terven cause that they're showing voters who they really are.

( crodish )
so are "trans kids" getting surgeries that can't change their sex or not. I was told no "trans kids" couldn't be operated on until they were of legal age

but go ahead and insist you be allowed to multilate children

various commenters #transphobia #conspiracy ovarit.com

Trump Education Dept to probe SJSU, UPenn for potential Title IX violations after trans athlete scandals | Fox News

( marmaladestripes725 )
I hate that we’re having to deal with everything else Trump and Musk are destroying to get a win on this.

( Arenlaef )
I agree but we're going to have to learn to get over it. The Democrats have betrayed women and nothing they've said since the election has indicated they're going to stop anytime soon. If they were in power we'd probably be reacting to Harris signing a bunch of laws making it basically impossible to fight this battle.

We have got to take wins when they come. Neither the Democrats or the Republicans care about women's rights until it can get them elected and positive attention. We have to use them when they can help us and fight them when they won't. They're not here for us.

( JACKANDJILL )
Consider the possibility that the media that tried to convince you that men are women may not always be honest in their coverage of Trump and Musk.

( Riothamus )
You're right. I hate it. I think the 2015ish AP Style Guide revisions that led to this (calling men women, refusing to report trans crimes, etc) were specifically created to destroy the public's faith in the press as a neutral institution.

( Riothamus )
There's really not a whole lot these schools' legal departments or outside counsel can do for them at this point. They blatantly forced young women to endure exhibitionist voyeurs and publicly fellated themselves for being so "inclusive".

( MaryDyer )
They literally enabled sexual harassment and assault of every single woman on those teams.

( OwnLyingEyes )
Given the treatment Lia Thomas' teammates have described, this is extremely overdue and hopefully should be a slam dunk.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

CDC orders mass retraction and revision of submitted research across all science and medicine journals. Banned terms must be scrubbed.

( NastasyaFillipovna )
According to the article, these are the banned words :

- Gender
- Transgender
- Pregnant Person
- pregnant people
- LGBT
- transsexual
- non binary
- amab
- afab
- bio male
- bio female
Found this linked in the TiM sub, they are making it about erasure of transgender from "academic literature"

https://www.reddit.com/r/MtF/comments/1iikozu/trump_banned_the_word_transgender_in_academic/

( crodish )
oh my god this is so fucking refreshing to see. FUCK all this noise i'm so glad it's getting removed

sighing a bit that LGBT is getting dragged down again with this shit, drop the T already

( CryingInYourInbox )
Not so fun having your language policed and erased huh

( NastasyaFillipovna )
Feel for the students who got their grades demoted for not adhering to this nonsense. A LOT were punished to even use the words like biological woman when submitting a paper about gender ideology

( sohh )
This was me! I made a post here two years ago venting and asking for guidance when faculty tried to fail me in a class during my very first semester of grad school.

It’s been so tempting over the last ~year to email the professor and former TA as the TRA house of cards has collapsed in slow motion.

( CryingInYourInbox )
Well now we can just say male and female. No "BiOLoGiCaL" disclaimer needed

( VirginiaWolfberry )
Yes, I had to argue hard against a peer reviewer to even include the distinction of biological sex; they were pushing for the more LGBT-friendly gender. Those using biological sex in papers are generally TERFY.

( vulvapeople )
There's a post on Reddit from someone claiming to work for the CDC describing their LGBT boss (all the letters even though she's a woman married to another woman) crying over the loss of "pregnant person" and similar language. It could be apocryphal, but, if it's true, it demonstrates that this "inclusive" language wasn't just about being nice to TIPs. These are dedicated cultists.

( crodish )
That lady should go up to a transwoman and gently apologize for this injustice done to 'her' 🙄 fucking handmaidens.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

( Riothamus )
Will the Trump DOJ go back to publicly linking transvestic fetishism with pedophilia and other criminal behaviors?
Trump could score serious political capital to shore up his poll numbers as he dismantles the federal government. He just needs to release the TIM crime/prison stats and he can severely damage an entire generation of Democrats for going out of their way to enable obvious pedophilia and serial killer behavior.

And the fact that the government hides these stats from us only further justifies conservatives' distrust of it. Ugh.

Seeing the DNC election clown show made me wonder what it must have been like for a hypothetical Washington Generals fan to watch them rehearse the ladder play with the Harlem Globetrotters. This is not a serious party and it will not provide serious competition.

( Itzpapalotl )
I hope so. SO many serial killers, pedos and rapists exhibit transvestic fetishism. They’re all a bunch of pervs and freaks and I’m sick of society pretending otherwise. Trans is just a men’s rights movement for some very fucked up men to parade their sexual fetish around and force everyone to play along.

( NastasyaFillipovna )
30 years ago they made a Oscar winning movie about this behaviour. Now with the porn brainrot, I bet this phenomenon is only intensified.

( Elizabelch )
Will it actually help anything if they do?

Will it further women's rights?

Will it fix the economy?

Will it even make trans "go away" or just make them martyrs and push them further up the Oppressed Chain?

( Cattitude )
Reassociating male transvestism with other criminal paraphilias it clusters with must be a good thing. It's a massive red flag and should be recognised as such on all levels.

( OwnLyingEyes )
I would argue that the suppression of being able to 'name the problem' is always a women's rights issue, under any political climate.