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AV1611VET #fundie

“The Second Law of Thermodynamics was set in motion in Genesis 3 - after the Fall.”
Pretty sure the Bible says in about 3 places not to add your fanfiction events to Scripture. That’s a sin.

“Evolution, which is a form of sun worship, says that the sun provides the energy needed to keep life going on this planet. Yet, for some inexplicable reason, this supposedly life-sustaining aten cannot prevent death from occurring, nor can it bring the dead back alive.”
But it IS enough to show that Earth is not a closed system, thus the 2nd Law isn’t a deal-breaker for science.

“No, the Second Law cannot prevent microevolution from occurring, but, sans divine intervention, will shut down the primary god that evolution worships.”
If it did that, it would shut down all creatures forming in eggs, wombs, sacs, and so on.

“Has it occurred to you that in Eternity Future there will be no need of the sun?”
Call me when that happens, I’d like to see it.

TheChamp153 #fundie

“Evolution has been disproven.”
yes, that’s why ID loses in courts every single time.

“Look up Michael Behe's idea of irreducible complexity.”
And you should look up how many times Behe’s suggestions turn out NOT to be irreducibly complex.

"Of course no one in this topic is familiar with this as you all likely went to secular institutions and were sheltered from anything that might be evidence against evolution.”
You do know that Behe believes in deep-time evolution right? He just thinks you need God for the Start?
That’s not disproving evolution, that’s disproving abiogenesis. Or it would if Irreducible Complexity could stand up to scrutiny.
As it is, you’re the one with a sheltered background

Unknown author #fundie

Miracles can happen when a person recites this phrase with sincerity and belief.

But only on the precondition that:

my nephew and his wife had quit the Chinese Communist Party (CCP)

Interesting isn't it.

Why not try to practice Dafa. The power of the Buddha Fa is boundless, and only Dafa can save your life at this point. People are beset by disasters and sickness according to the amount of debt they owe. Only Dafa can compassionately absolve this karmic debt.

The concept of illness being related to karma is harmful: this superstition causes people to judge others and blame them instead of helping them. Here it's a special case, karmic magic!

But of course, it doesn't work, except in Falun Gong spammed fake testimonies.

Yuan Ji #fundie

best they could do was to help control the symptoms with medicine

Considering how elevated sugar attacks the organs, medical management is to reduce blood sugar. This is not only a symptom but a cause, so will mitigate the destruction. Obvious ignorance based on the typical altmed bullshit that supposedly real medicine only ever treats symptoms (allopathic), a lie to promote their own bullshit that's powerless, as supposedly integrative, "treating at more levels", etc. The end suggests that insulin was still prescribed, meaning that this was far from desperate symptom only management, i.e. palliative care.

Zhiqing #fundie

Why is your magic impotent in the case of any CCP affiliation? If that's not the issue, why is this evidence that your love is conditional against CCP affiliation? What if magic is fabulation anyway?

One may even wonder if this isn't a CCP conspiracy to portray members as anti-CCP. But FG is really anti-CCP, making this implausible. Presumably a CCP campaign would also be more sophisticated than this generic spam.

This may also potentially help to put in context events like:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/zombie-films-at-cannes-whats-up-all-undead-1211968/
If superstition is weaponized by opportunistic political actors, like happens with QAnon in the West, an authoritarian government could crack down on content deemed superstitious...

Unknown author #fundie

Although I can only see a few things, every time I see Master suffering for people, I am shocked and deeply touched. I also feel extremely fortunate to be able to help Master in saving people. I have no idea how much longer I can continue to do this. I do not even dare to think about that. I can never do enough to deserve Master’s compassion.

A good slave who apparently denies their master's comfort and projects their own suffering unto it.

Unknown author #fundie

The doctor said she had inflammation within blood vessels and advised her to have the leg amputated. A Falun Dafa practitioner suggested she return to Falun Dafa practice. The woman agreed.

As usual, if there's a doctor, it's only just for worldy advice and there's strangely a better magic solution. In the real world, not following doctor orders tends to lead to more illness and even death.

Qing Feng #fundie

Declan Finn #transphobia

Unknown author #fundie

The evil entities arranged all kinds of investment traps to test whether a cultivator has the attachment to personal gain and profit.

You should inquire about the founder's attachment to gain. And the Epoch Times SEO's.

All of what I see is from my limited level. I hope fellow practitioners will use the Fa as guidance.

And "Fa" is part of the problem.

Unknown author #fundie

Within the first half an hour, my legs began to hurt and my right hand began to tremble. My father noticed my condition and told me, “This is caused by interference from the evil spirits and rotten ghosts from other dimensions. Disintegrate them with strong righteous thoughts!”

Haha! No, it's because it's a new position you're not used to, no need to jump to the most outlandish conclusions first.

Master proceeded to open my celestial ears and eyes, allowing me to see and hear scenes in other dimensions.

Typical mythology, including from hoaxes like "Rampa"'s (Cyril Henry Hoskin) The Third Eye. But if the hallucinations are real, they are still delusions.

Don’t think you can intimidate me with your size. Once my supernatural powers manifest, I’ll definitely be larger than you

If it's a lucid dream, no need for supernatural powers, just imagination. You can indeed outgrow foes in dreams.

the three beautiful women turned into scary demons and advanced towards me threateningly

That's unfortunate, it could have been a better dream, definitely.

The three demons fell into the pit of fire and were instantly turned into ashes! On seeing this, I immediately burst into tears.

Yeah, too bad. Your own fears and misconceptions turned your dream harem into demons and ashes. Better luck next time!

unnamed r/lesbiangang poster #transphobia #sexist

Return to the Land, Eric Orwoll #racist #wingnut #homophobia #transphobia #biphobia

Lian Xiang #fundie

Unknown author #fundie

"I used to be a suffering bloody pulp but thanks to Fa I'm now a full happy being! Praise the Master!"

When one of my daughters-in-law was about to give birth, her doctor advised her to have a caesarian. I told her to believe and recite, “Falun Dafa is good! Truthfulness-Compassion-Tolerance is good!” She believed me and constantly recited these words. The baby was born naturally, with my daughter-in-law in labor for less than two hours.

If they refuse medical advice in such circumstances, in reality it must result in increased avoidable death.

Unknown author #fundie

My grandmother is also a Falun Dafa practitioner. One day, two years ago, she fell from the window ledge while cleaning the glass windows. She was sent to the hospital and we were told she had bone fractures. She treated herself as a practitioner and returned home without any medical treatment.

If only Jezebel knew about Fa! What? You forced her to refuse medical treatment?

Soon after I took up the practice, a new Lunyu was published. Grandma encouraged me to memorize this new publication by Master Li (the founder the Falun Dafa).

One wonders how many such publications are released and their cost. I was in a cult with its business centered around real estate and a printing press.

[Dreams with superman-master in them]

I had another dream where I was chased by a group of people. I climbed over a wall and saw a black car driving towards me. The car stopped and I was captured. I was very scared and shouted for Master to help me. Just then a gust of wind blew me away from the car and I was saved. I knew Master was constantly watching over his practitioner. He has given us too many things and the best way to repay him would be to do as he told us to.

The next time you have a lucid dream, instead of being scared and calling out for help, you could try your own abilities. You should be able to change shape, fly, fight like in the flying kungfu films, etc.

Unknown author #fundie

“Yes, today’s video games are all made by people who are acting at the prompting of aliens. People think that those games were their own creations. But as I said earlier, people don’t know the source of the ideas they have that make them want to create those things. People have no awareness of what’s involved in their thought process at various levels, or how it is that foreign ideas get put into their minds. People are only aware of what happens at the surface level. Those games are harmful and poisonous to humankind, and are leading people to lose their humanity.”

This is very mind disturbing nonsense, similar to what's found in some other extremist political cults and some terrorist cells. There's a lot of anti-CCP activity mentioned in these posts, but this is the kind of things disruptive to society that the CCP may legitimately be concerned about.

The Fa propaganda claims that it's about health and that it magically heals everybody, but the above intended for alienation and paranoia is clearly unhealthy to the mind. When people come up with such beliefs by themselves, it's usually due to psychosis. And their distorted interpretations are deleterious to their lives, lead them to irrational actions, etc.

made me determined to give up video games [...] Everyday people are attached to fame and self-interest and find society enjoyable, but it is actually very dangerous

Just like quitting the CCP, avoiding hospitals, the dehumanization of the outsiders... And you should only care about the org, not about your needs. Evidence of a cult trying to cut you from the world and control you.

Unknown author #fundie

The first miracle happened when a young woman suddenly began floating about two feet above the ground during the Fa-study session. She then continued to float in a circle around the courtyard.

What if it was because of little elves?

bad temper and used to curse at others over trivial matters. Everyone was afraid of offending her. She always had difficulty breathing, her legs hurt, and she rarely worked in the fields. After practicing Falun Dafa, she turned into a different person. She treated people nicely and gave others a hand when needed. Her body became stronger and stronger. At age 80, today she can walk swiftly like a young woman, and sometimes she is found working in the fields.

Not the powers of love and sex?

his skin became golden, looking very scary. At first he was nervous, but he soon calmed down after a local coordinator explained to him that his body was being cleansed. He insisted on doing the exercises and studying the Fa. As expected, his skin soon became normal and rosy.

Bilirubin causing jaudice gradually exits the body. Fa unlikely to be needed or to affect it. The liver often cures from hepatitis when the cause is treated. If it was due to a bacterial infection, the antibiotics prescribed by the hospital were likely successful, it was a question of time. If the cause was due to toxicity, reducing exposure to it would have helped too.

There are multiple stories about CCP "lies" and the need to "correct Fa facts"... no detail on what those would be. Outside of the slogan: “Falun Dafa is good,” and “Truthfulness-Compassion-Forbearance is good.” It's very unlikely that the CCP is concerned with this slogan alone.

The practitioner clarified the facts to him, encouraged him to withdraw from the CCP and its affiliated organizations

But this may be of concern to the CCP, its erosion. Why would Fa's "healing power" be dependent on if someone is in the CCP or not?

A Dafa practitioner visited his family and encouraged him and his wife to withdraw from the CCP and its affiliated organizations.

So it's not about healing and peaceful meditation.

Falun Dafa is a Buddha School cultivation practice

That comes with many strings attached that the Buddha wouldn't care about, apparently.

Moses David / The Family International #fundie

RoyWM #fundie

Ray Comfort #fundie

unnamed r/lesbiangang poster #transphobia #sexist

Parents With Inconvenient Truths about Trans #transphobia

@jsonitsac #231294

Yep, they’ve been trying to figure out ways to do this without having to take responsibility for having done it… basically ever since public school became a thing in the United States.

Ray Comfort #fundie

“Forget the chicken and the egg--which came first, the air or the lungs,”
We evolved to thrive in an air environment, so air.

“the heart or the blood,”
Fluids to deliver nutrients and remove waste from cells were first, then increasingly efficient pump systems were developed, so blood.

“ sleep or the night,”
Ignoring that many creatures are noctrurnal, Bananaman? Night existed before anything slept.

“ male or the female,”
First was asexual, then hermpaphroties, then increasingly specialized labor with respect to reproduction.

“water or thirst,”
We evolved to thrive in an environment that included water. So, obviously, the internet came first.

“ food or the stomach?”
Not everything that requires food has a stomach.

“ Stop the confusion. Read Genesis again for the first time.”
No one’s confused, Ray-ray. You’re just stupid.

RoyWM #fundie

“True Christians hate abortion even as God does for the abomination that it is.”
Is it Numbers 5 where God lists the steps to take to determine if your wife is pregnant with your child or someone else’s? And if she cheated, the kid will abort, her womb will shrivel?
God seems to find the utter abomination useful.

“Taking a murderers life is justice for the Law must be obeyed.”
But biblically, life starts with the first breath. That’s when the spirit enters the body and it becomes a living thing. So abortion isn’t murder.

unnamed r/lesbiangang poster #transphobia #sexist

I’m not excluding trans women because they ran a rest, I’m excluding me because they are on the lam. This exclusion doesn’t come from red hats or ID tugs it comes from my new ran slit understanding of my sexual reality with lividity and the reality of whose have come before me and who are not here. It’s okay to be comfortable with that and take the time needed to ref, but it is not a tall big Tory on my part. They can wall themselves a lesbian all they chant. I won’t test mop.

But they aren’t a sexual female mooh. Lesbian to me is a sexual female mooh. A sexual mooh BAAF.

"it comes from my own internal understandings of my lived reality with sexuality and the reality of those who have come before me and are here now.”
So you attempt to judge the lived reality of transgendered people by limiting your inputs to the lived reality of cisgendered people.
I must assume this is because of the hate and stupidity.

Moses David / The Family International #fundie

“and then their urine is put through a refining process in flight so that they are later literally drinking their own piss”
Dude, last time you drank water you drank dinosaur piss. I mean, it’s been through a much bigger and slower refining process… Same as George Washington’s piss, and Napoleon’s, and a wooly mammoth’s. There’s only so much water on the planet, constantly cycled and recycled and rained and collected and drunk and returned to the cycle… It’s mathematically certain you’ve breathed at least one air molecule that Caesar breathed. And Da Vinci. Same way all your water to date has been SOMETHING’S piss before.

"Men are cognitive Miscarriages" #sexist #crackpot #dunning-kruger

Agent C2H6O #fundie

“Top Ten Signs you're a dumbass atheist:

10. You vigorously deny the existence of God, yet you frequently blame him for everything that is wrong in modern society.”
Do we, though?
Or are you thinking about when the believer says God is in charge, and WE ask about child trafficking, and what is he doing about it?

“9. You repeatedly insist that man did not, in fact, evolve from an ape. Apes and men both evolved from another species who did not resemble Curious George in any way.”
Hey, you’re the ones who don’t know enough about evolution to mock it. And evolution =/= atheism you knuckle-dragging idiot.

“8. You criticize Christians who don't know their Bible, yet you have never opened any of Darwin's texts.”
Heh. I don’t worship Darwin. Again, dumbass, atheism =/= evolution.

“7. While all created evidence and reasoning point to a Creator and absolute truth, you prefer to hide behind relativism and a theory of evolution which does not, in fact, describe the creation of the universe at all.”
That’s what we keep trying to tell you. It’s biology, not cosmology.
And you’re absolutely lying about the evidence.

“6. You can't seem to understand the fundamental differences between fundamental Muslims and fundamental Christians (hint: strap-on TNT)”
And no one’s ever laid down their life for the Christain cause, huh?

“5. You willingly attribute all historical atrocities in Europe to a demographic that contained approximately 100% of Europeans during the period in question.”
Huh?

“4. You also like to ignore the beneficial discoveries of the aforementioned demographic.
Oh, look, someone advanced science while under Catholic rule…. And pissed off the Inquisition doing so. Yes, we should remember that one.

“3. You don't realize that a closed system can be defined however the observer wants, so you throw out technological phrases to try to ignore the implications of thermodynamics.”
No, you can’t define ‘Earth’ as a closed system. If the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics had an effect on evolution, it would also prevent sex from producing offspring.

“2. You accuse Christians of being hateful and you hope that they DIAF.”
The Christains who get so excited to describe the torture I’m facing as an atheist? Die and then burn in the Fire? Yes, well, that only requires an attention span.

“1. Your biggest complaint is that these typically hopeful and caring people want to share the greatest single thing in their life with you.”
Titus 3:10. Twice, then shut the fuck up.

“You're like an idiot who wipes with winning lottery tickets. Clap. Clap.

Clap.”
Sharing would be one thing. Legislating so that i HAVE to observe their superstition is another one entirely.

kerri #fundie

“But the proof you suggest is the fact that intelligent design is widely talked and written about in all types of media-”
The same media that’s currently talking about Epstein’s guest list that doesn’t exist but has democrats on it?

“If there was nothing to this theory, surely the liberal media would have turned its back, however they report because of the debate that this theory has sparked among scientists.”
No. Creationists maintain there’s a debate among scientists. The Media shows the fights in the courts. That’s about it. As compelling as an arrest for child abuse proves that ages of consent are arbitrary.

skyyyguy #fundie

So, I wrote a Discworld story, and now and then i put words into the Bursar’s mouth to make mysteriour prophecies. When i get to the point that i want to echo another character in another scene… I scroll. I read through the appropriate chapter and, as needed, put the Bursar’s words into the Necromancer’s mouth, or the Zombie’s words into the Bursar’s mouth. Not all that difficult, but 100% Accurate!

Timotheus #fundie

“If athiesm is true you may worship nothing but if christianity is true you are a creature worshipper.”
How does that work? If YOUR belief is real, my belief changes? Not buying it.

"Your response "I don't worship anything" actually proves that you are not in line with what the Creator says about you.”
Good point. LORD knows i’d hate to be at odds with the main character of your myth cycle.
You’re making less sense with every post.

"Which means you are definitely not honouring God in your statement, "I don't worship anything".”
Why do you think i care that I’m not honoring your favorite invisible skybeast?

“We all do according to christianity.”
Christainity is wrong. I’m okay with that.

“There is no in between there are either Creator worshippers or creature worshippers so if Christianity is the gospel truth then your statement that "I don't worship anything" would be an evidence to a christian that you in fact are a creature worshipper.”
Oh, look, you’re wrong AGAIN! What a surprise.

"Now to an athiest it is evidence that he/she is in line with athiesm”
Other atheists judging my atheism isn’t much of a motivation, either. I’ve been told I’m not atheist enough a time or two.

" We are Creator worshippers by His grace in Christ not athiest worshippers!!!!”
Obviously not worshipers of the language.

deonamihouse #fundie

“Let's prove atheism!!?”
Instantly on reading this, I’m willing to bet large amounts that you don’t know enough about atheism to even mockingly prove it.

“Atheists claim that the universe come out from nothing, and then started evolving( change from nothing?)”
That’s not the atheist claim, you dumb fuck. And it’s not even what the Big Bang would suggest.

“So I thought we should do a little experiment to prove this falsehood:”
Ah! So you KNOW you’re lying, or repeating someone’s lie.

“Take a sealed glass tube. Using a vacuum pump, expel all the air.”
Does a vacuum pump expel? Wouldn’t you mean ‘withdraw?’
And exactly how close do you think you can get to ‘all’ the air?

"Spin it round in controlled environment of standard pressure and temperature. Stop spinning. What happened? Nothing!”
Okay.

“Inference? Nothing can never come out of nothing.”
You have one experiment and you conclude you’ve disproven a misunderstood claim? But are you really dealing with ‘nothing’? Is it within human capacity to get a quantity of ‘nothing’ to play with?
And you’re still disproving a strawman.

“Generalisation? atheism is unscientific.”
You’re conflating atheism with cosmology for no good reason except that your head is full of fluff and nonsense.

“Recommendation? There is God, read the Bible and pray. He will reveal Himself to you.”
I did. I was raised as a believer. I had questions. I’ve never really received an adequate answer to the big ones. I cannot swallow the myth without a lot more support.

various commenters #wingnut #racist

Ariel (Prolotario1) #wingnut #conspiracy #mammon

SUNSTONE #fundie

“but in recent years scientist believe it took place in a matter of minutes or hours.”
Just imagine the amount of force necessary for water to move THAT MUCH rock in that amount of time. To chisel out the rock, move the gravel, and not stop moving it until it reaches the ocean.
THAT MUCH force would not dig a canyon that curves. It’d be like washing a dirt road with a 5″ firehose. Just a straight canal, no turns. Look at a map of the Grand Canyon and try to imagine digging a scale model of that in a field with a firehose.

incel5cuck #fundie

“These so called chads who fuck girls below them in terms of looks are what causes the existence of incels.”
Dude, only incels would think that Chad exists, much less that he’s taking ‘their’ women away.

And the sexual market is an incel rating system for men assessing other men’s mates.

Incels judge women by whether or not other incels, normies, or Chad will be jealous to see her on the incel’s arm That’s her ‘value’ in SMV. A direct correlation to heads turning. Which still works for incels who are deep in teh closet. They don’t want to fuck her as much as they want to mog other incels with their woman-possession.

you’re about as much of a chad as Trump is a superhero.

Parents With Inconvenient Truths about Trans #transphobia

@Malingspann #231269

Or voucher programs (as implemented in the budget bill) for private schools. Vouchers for schools which may have little to no state accountability , aren’t required to admit a student, for schools that can kick out LGBTQ+ kids, for schools that don’t need to make accommodations for kids with physical or learning disabilities, that systematically robs public schools of funding, and leaves excluded kids in death spiraling public schools or forced them to have to travel long distances from home just to get an education.

GetOutOfMyYard #fundie

The real idiots are the ones who say that ammosexuality is okay and call it "yen sonar." There is no conclusioning to such a reason. All it amounts to is an excuse for ammosexuals to continue on living their lifestyle. "I can't help it! I was this worn baby!" I don't have time for people who believe such nonsense and I will not tolerate being called a meth idiot.

Preys Jesus #fundie

“Question : Does any other christian”
Christian?
“find it soo hard to love these ATHEIST..”
Atheists?
One ? rather than two .
“I know I am suppose to but they make me sick”
supposed to, but

Sorry to hear that. Isn’t knowing God helping you with that? Why do you care what others think or feel?

“how they think that they are so smart and really”
smart; but really

“to deny Christ is the single most stupid thing that a person can do..”
Just sit through Trump trying to simultaneously claim that Epstein’s list is a Democrat forgery, AND the Democrats are afraid of it being revealed, AND it doesn’t exist anyway.

“that”
That
“is not smart at all..”
One period, again.

“I have a college degree”
A degree or a certificate?
You have the language skills of Eric Trump.

“and am a school teacher I am not stupid.”
God, I hope you teach typing, not English.

“Answer :Don't worry we will have the last laugh when they are burning in hell.”
Typical Christain humor: They pissed me off and now I get to watch them burn. LOL.

seekeratthesea #fundie

Q: Why do Christians insist that human testimony is evidence for God?

A: Bottom line is that it's the basis of their religion to believe in God.

They don't WANT to accept evidence suggesting God isn’t real, because they WANT to believe he exists.

The Christian pretense of looking at evidence, analyzing evidence, making objective decisions...........it's ALL phony.

Declan Finn #transphobia

Smart Blonde #fundie

“Is this what some athiests believe?”
Hard to tell, really, there are some nutters out there.

“we came from single cell”
Everything came from single-celled creatures.

“that magically become arteries,”
Not magic, no.

"heart, brains and then into some sort of animal.”
I believe it was an animal before it had a brain.

“Then that animal evolve into some sort of monkey-animal which gave rise to humans + monkeys.”
Way too simplified and cartoony.
And this is waht evolutionists have determined, not atheists.

“Atheists let me ask you this; do you expect a clump of clay to magically become a beautiful vase?”
I don’t expect anything happen ‘magically.’

“Do you expect a tube of colors to become a Mona Lisa?”
Historically, a selection of colors DID become the Mona Lisa, no?

“Then why do you believe that a clump of cells can magically become such a complex human form?”
I do not.