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The Duke, Captain of Team Loyalty #fundie forum.myspace.com

[On Prostitution]

So if these jobs are wrong, then there is nothing wrong with a CEO that treats his employees like shit.

[I haven't seen anyone arguing that abusive pimps and johns are a good thing.]

Well if you find nothing wrong with a retarded job like being a hooker then you cannot find anything wrong with a good job like being a CEO. Otherwise you would be a hypocrite.

adam #fundie forum.myspace.com

[Regarding the recent UCLA police brutality incident, where a student was tasered multiple times while handcuffed for refusing to show ID]

My cousin went to Texas A&M and had two classes with this one girl who was raped and left in a dumpster. Pretty sure she would have been suspicious of this guy too and wouldn't have minded watching him be tazered a couple times.

Mike Jones #fundie forum.myspace.com

OK, just show me where it says in the Bible where is says no one will perish? Just because its God's desire doesn't mean it will happen. The Bible talks more aobut Hell and God judgment than it does about Heaven. Because God doesn't want that to happen to anyone.

An Ambassador #fundie forum.myspace.com

Some people actually think that separation of church and state is actually in the constitution! I was shocked to find that out so I thought everyone should know that its not and in fact it was quoted in a letter only so that the state would not decide what religion should be its official one and also so the state could not interfere with the churches teachings. [Sound like any amendments you've heard of recently?]

spontaneity, baby. #fundie forum.myspace.com

our society is fucked.
making people think they're gay.
i bet if everyone grew up without tv or computers or anything like that then they might still fuck around with both sexes but they would still make babies like we are naturally supposed to.

kdone.

["Yeah, animals are gay because of t.v. and computers."]

animals are not gay
they dont have a sexual preference.

Shayne (R-NJ #fundie forum.myspace.com

(Why can't we just have a respectful discussion (on abortion) without all of the opposition bashing? It seems as if we're trying harder to bash the opposition more than trying to prove our points. I mean it won't get anywhere doing that.)

It's kinda hard to debate peacefully when the other side openly commits murder

EL KABONG #fundie forum.myspace.com

Is feminism really a movement created by women to gain "equality" in a patriarchal society or is it really a gender based social manisfestation of Freud's concept of penis envy?

Here are the issues that can be gained as far as equality with men is concerned as I see it in today's social order:

1- Job Equality; Men can get a shitty job in some dead end factory or Home Depot, work like a slave for low pay and no place for advancement, struggling for 40 years; retire and attempt to live off of social security (if it will still be available), and end up dead 6 mos. after retirement from congestive heart failure.

Women are welcome to join their brethern in this noble pursuit. Be my guest.

2- Sex; Men can shake the dew from their lillies, sowing their oats wildly and without concern over pregnancy, child birth, or child rearing.

Women can join their brethern in this noble pursuit. Abortion as birth control has opened the flood gates and their legs. They can now fornicate freely and often, and with wild abandon, and live the simple minded meaningless lives of their sexually obsessed male counterparts.

3- Opportunity; Well, this one is difficult. As I see it, any one with an idea, ability, and some fortitude can make something happen for themselves in this country if they are persistant, commited, and if the perservere, regardless of gender.

4- Abusive relationships; Another tuff gong. I believe that anyone who stays in an abusive relationship is retarded. Separation from the antagonist can be difficult, but the consequence of staying can be deadly. There are many social constructs designed to help women through and out of these types of relationships. If any of you out there are currently struggling with something of this order, feel free to contact me and I will connect you with resources that will aid you in leaving, getting yourself re-established away from the abusive environment, and any medical care or aid you might require. FREE.

5- Social Status; You already vote, work outside of the homes, and abort any babies you don't want. Your stars have risen and you have manipulated a place for yourselves along side of your male counterparts. You are political in nature, have taken over the education system of our country, and have feminized many of the boys and men so that they now conform to your line of thinking (or should I say your life perspective).

Now, here comes the dicy part. Now, after all this, you want men to like you. But you act like one of the guys and you want to be treated as such. Ah: yuk.

How about we just get along, like a bunch of guys will do when they're competing on some kind of playing field. We'll play together, compete, and retreat after the game is over.

Cathy #fundie forum.myspace.com

Labels like "victim" imply that the person had no control over the situation. Rape victims, child abuse victims...that is the correct context that the word "victim" should be used in. In this day and age, it's crazy to call women that allow men to beat them "victims". Spineless and a bad judge of character, yes. But don't lump those women in with true victims.

EL KABONG #fundie forum.myspace.com

How is relating feminism to a death cult whining? I'm merely pointing out an obvious similarity or possibly a factual observation.

Feminism has made abortion rights the cornerstone of their foundation. Abortion is DEATH, being either the death of a human child or a tissue mass that, left to live, would turn into a human child. regardless, something dies.

Death cults celebrate death and use death as the cornerstone of their fundamental dogma.

Blood is the sacremental element and death is the goal.

Ethan #fundie forum.myspace.com

To me, Christian values and family values are synonymous. The Bible can do wonders for saving marriages and raising model kids.

[In all seriousness, have you ever actually read the bible, including all the parts where parents sleep with their kids, rape victims are sold to the rapist, children are killed and then replaced (by God, no less), virgins are offered up to God as a sacrifice, etc. etc.?]

yeah, by OTHER GODS. Genesis is full of that kind of stuff. most of the old testament is god's contempt for what israel is doing.

K' #fundie forum.myspace.com

Evidence that the Bible is God's Word


1. It claims to be.

Example:
2 Timothy 3:16 - "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"

Brian #fundie forum.myspace.com

[After telling one woman he hoped she'd be raped and another that she deserves to be raped and beaten, and having someone point out that he sure seems to like fantasizing about women who disagree with him being raped.]

I didn't have any rape fantasies. That is all in your head. I bet you can't wait to have a baby boy... so you can fuck his nuts off when he is 2 y/o. I bet you can't keep your own son's dick out of your mouth until he is old enough to fend you off. If you breastfeed him, you will probably 69 him just for your enjoyment.

These are the tendancies that YOU display with your bullshit posts on this thread. You are really one sick and disturbed individual. You should be locked up for the safety of others, especially any kids that happens to be around you.

Conservative Atheist #homophobia forum.myspace.com

Oh why am I wasting my time on you?....lol Ok I will make an exception just this one time.

Even though as humans we can deviate our sexual behavior for pleasure the sex act its self is designed through the evolutionary process to ontinue life. Homosexual activity does not continue life. Yes people can commit homosexual acts and yes they can be homosexuals but it serves no obvious purpose.

To claim its justified due to the fact that it has existed so long could also be applied to diabetes or any number of other genetic birth defects.

The Duke, Captain of Team Loyalty #fundie forum.myspace.com

Just like you cannot deny a person their fundamental right to LIFE.

[Patients who need transplants die every single day - why aren't you screaming about their "fundamental right to life" and demanding we start forcing organ donations?]

Those people were allowed to be born, your fundamental right to LIFE is your right to be born, something you do not understand. So how does it feel to go against evolution?
[...]
Your fundamental right to life is you right to be born, after that you can live your life, killing is still wrong, but that goes against your fundamental right not to be KILLED.

Brian #fundie forum.myspace.com

[After telling several people that he hoped they get raped, and that they deserve to be raped and "bitch-slapped.]

If you knowingly call someone a theif who is not, you deserve to be stolen from. If you knowingly call someone a murder who is not, you deserve to be murdered. If you knowingly call someone a rapist who is not, you deserve to be raped.

It's called karma and what goes around comes around.

john the super christian #fundie forum.myspace.com

pro-creationism songs!

post them if you know some. this one was by a band from my area that broke up before i got to see them live, i wanted to ask them about it.

"the argument for creationism"

Apes don't need a higher power
We should be so wise
If only we could use these thumbs
For more than holding books of lies

I'd raise a glass to the death of science
I raise this glass to the downfall of reason

Score one for the creationists!
Singing their song of yes and amen
Your blind faith is almost inspiring
I said almost

...i play this song in my head whenever a silly evolutionist gets lippy.

Sweet Contest® #fundie forum.myspace.com

[Adoption]

KEEP YOUR DAMN LEGS CLOSED AND WE WONT HAVE THIS PROBLEM. IF YOU WANNA GET KNOCKED UP THEN FINE BUT DEAL WITH THE DAMN CONSEQUENCES.YOU ARE KILLIN A BABY WHO COULD BE THE VERY ONE TO CURE CANCER, CAUSE WORLD PEACE, ANYTHING, AND YOU WANNA KILL IT. GET A DAMN GRIP ON LIFE AND KEEP YOUR LEGS CLOSED.

SIT ON THAT ONE FOR A WHILE.

Ærik¯Thª¯Nøt¯®eD #fundie forum.myspace.com

The earth can't be billions of years old because it is slowly spinning down due to energy loss. If it was billions of years old, it would have to have been spinning at millions of miles per hour, throwing the dinosaurs that were supposed to exist then off of the earth (maybe that's why they're extinct, eh?)

Mike Jones #fundie forum.myspace.com

Ok evolutions have said alot of things in this forum, but they really have not refuted any evidenced used against there theory. What i have basically heard from the evolutionist is "creationist are morons and scienctist have dated the world older than what the Bible says.

Well......maybe. The problem is Scientist over the past 50 to 60 years have used a number of dating methods. Well, if the first dating-method worked then why would they have to keep coming up with new dating-methods. The problem is none of them work. I would like to speak about them all but I don't have enough time, so i will just speak about the most common, Carbon-Dating.

The carbon dating method uses the amount C14 in the atmosphere. C14 is radioactive C12(regular carbon). By the way there is very small ammount of C14 in the atmosphere, like .00014, I think.
Well what happens is the sun's rays hit the atmosphere and turn some of the C12 in to C14. Following that, C14 will slowly change back into C12. It has been proven that C14 takes about 5, 700 years to decay back to C12. Meanwhile plants are breathing in CO2 and some of it is radio active C14. The animals then eat the plants and the animals die then turn to fossils, which recently has been proven it only takes a year to fossilize something. Anyway back to C14, well once the animal or plant dies to C14 continues to decay , in the fossil, back in to C12. When they find a fossil they will compare the amount of C14 left in the fossil to the amount in the atmosphere. Then they will use math to get the exact date. That is how the method of Carbon dating is used, but there are errors in it:

Error 1: back in the 1960s scientist wanted to know how long the atmosphere would take to reach a stage called equilibrium. Example of equilibrium: If I told you to fill a cup with water, however I put a hole in the bottom of the cup. Eventually the cup would fill up to a certain point where the amount of water going in is equiling the ammount of water coming out and you cant fill the cup up any more, that would be equilibrium. Where you cant put any more water in because the same ammount is draining out. Scientist tested the atmosphere and found out that it would take 30, 000 years for the atmosphere to reach equilibrium. Well, here is the problem. There is still 27% to 35% more C14 being added to atmosphere then is decaying out. Proving that the atmosphere has not reached equilibrium and the earth is less than 30, 000 years old.

Error 2: If the atmosphere has not reached equilibrium then compairing the amout of C14 in fossils to the amount in C14 in the atmosphere would be pointless because there is more C14 coming in then decaying out.

Now if you are a evolutionist, don't just say Im stupid and wrong, PROVE me wrong. Do you homework and come back to me with a strong point against the method of Carbon-dating.

[Note: FSTDT.com did their homework, and Googled for 2 seconds and discovered carbon-14 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon-14" target="_blank">decays into nitrogen-14</a>, not carbon-12 again.]

Ethan #fundie forum.myspace.com

[Explaining away the conflict between free will and determinism]

Yea. He knew before he ever created the system that it'd get broken, and he'd only control some variables, since Lucifer has had property rights over Earth according to Jewish custom, so he created the system exactly as he wanted it to be. Ergo, man's free will between Satan's lies and God's truths.

Mike Jones #fundie forum.myspace.com

[After being linked to an article in Science on Carbon dating calibration]

OK this is the website you sent me too. First of I like how they use complex words as if they are going to try and sound smart and confuse everyone. IF it was proof of evolution they would speak in plain terms so everyone could know they are right.

john #fundie forum.myspace.com

(After making a topic claiming that he is able to prove "scientifically" that evolution is garbage)

i'm glad everyone is interested in this, but i'd really only like more evidence in support of creationism. i'm not interested in hearing anything else

the punisher #fundie forum.myspace.com

if u dont believe in God then read this

im am 16 a sophemore at my school and we have won every game but one because God gave us them and we could see it because we were down by 2 or more touchdowns but God said no i want this team to win and now we got one game left and its state and i cant wait to c His hand work again on our team

Toilet Trained at Gunpoint! #fundie forum.myspace.com

Entropy: The thermodynamic concept that states that atoms are, in general, more comfortable in low-energy states, and thus the universe is tending to disorder. So if the universe tends to a disorder, then it is logical to assume that large and incredibly complex molecules could never have been made without outside assistance. DNA is, of course, the most obvious example. Therefore, it stands to reason that because these molecules do exist, they could not have existed for millions of years, for over a period of millions of years things would tend to become less ordered.

cRaZy J #fundie forum.myspace.com

[Regarding oral sex]

yes it is sin, all thngs sexually are sin including making out and u may be a sinner but it would be best not to do it ne ways because if u do it, it will just add somehing else to the book of life

In Nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti #fundie forum.myspace.com

People are not born gay. They are born attracted to the opposite sex. The 3 most common reasons for same sex attraction are:

1. A molestation by someone of the same gender
2. Inability to control sexual desires in heterosexuality
3. Being told one is gay

In most cases, homosexuality comes from molestation. It's a sad truth. You can't pick your family, you can't pick when you're born, but you can pick your sexuality.

Conservative Atheist #fundie forum.myspace.com

[The poster is also very much against abortion rights because it's an "innocent human being," a variation on the theistic idea of ensoulment, so you might want to take his claim to atheism with a grain of salt]

Yes life is a risk grow up and deal with it like a man. Rape is never the victims fault but they can be a fault in some cases of putting themselves in a bad situation that leads to it.

Francisco #fundie forum.myspace.com

oh sorry i beleave we did not change or life start with the big bang because supposely to my teacher we came from one atom that changed and changed over hundreds of years which later changed and made more atoms which made life but atoms r so small no 1 has ever seem them so they probly don't excist

Keith #homophobia forum.myspace.com

[Gay Mariage should be legal. Im not gay I know being it is against God But thats ME.]

Ok seriously, if everyone had your type of mindset, this would be one screwed up nation. If we should tolerate gay marriage, why not tolerate guys marrying dogs. Why not tolerate murderers and rapists. Why not tolerate serial killers. I mean seriously, when are we going TO START STANDING UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT! Come on guys.

[ok your comparing having two people marrying to people marry animals and murders and rapist. what the hell is wrong with you?]

marriage is defined as one man one woman, if u allow one thing outside of that, why not allow another?

Mike Jones #fundie forum.myspace.com

Funny a long time ago a man was reading in the Bible, the book of Isiah Chapter 14, where it says the earth is sphere. He then went on to disprove science which stated at that time the world was FLAT! Image that, using the Bible to disprove science, now why cant we do that today.

Brian #fundie forum.myspace.com

[Responding to a post asking why zygotes have souls but eggs and sperm don't]

Attempting to see the line of thinking here...

No, they would not have souls before they were conceived. The reason being is that their DNA (which actually makes them human) has not come to be yet. They only have half of the genetic material needed. The X and the Y must unite to complete the DNA sequence of that specific individual. The most you could argue for is that the sperm has half a soul and the egg the other half and there is no telling which halves would end up together.

Black Eden #racist forum.myspace.com

Also, he kept saying something about "white people are the plantation owners", and although i hate the idea of slavery period, without it, he would still be sacrificing children to false Gods in African tribes with more pain than if he grew up in Brooklyn.

Joe #fundie forum.myspace.com

i 've been thinking that there should be a new social program for the less fortunate. you see they spend their money trying to help all those in need of assistance for whatever reason. but the poor rich people never got to have the indescriminate sex of a single mom, or the 25 year drunk of a homeless person. they didn't get to spend their life playin video games or watchin movies. they never got to sleep in.

so i think that the government should set up a charity for achievers who didn't get a life cause they spent theirs earning the money that you are all so quick to hand out."

["give more to the rich? what are you, anti-Robin Hood?"]


i wish i could look him in the eye as i choke him to death.

Mr Eccentric #fundie forum.myspace.com

[On the children crying in the movie, Jesus Camp]

Yeah I saw a preview of it. Personally I don't believe boys or men should be allowed to cry for cultural reasons but that is besides the point. I am going to go see it tomorrow so I will tell you how it went...

Ethan #fundie forum.myspace.com

freedom of what? our rights? YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO POT. true freedom is letting the people decide what your rights are. collective relativism= they negate each other nicely:)

[A productive culture would be one that is maximally expressive, rather than maximally constrictive. Pot being illegal is but one manner in which modern culture is constrictive.]

okay, let's do away with society and rape anyone we want.....not.

W.W.J.D #fundie forum.myspace.com

Well science is in alot of ways proving the bible correct...and other science is TRYING to disprove the bible... ha ha disprove... like... it was cold back then is Jesus walked REALLY on ICE... HA... Science is stupid...

shawn (L-CA) wishes to be in AZ #fundie forum.myspace.com

it wasso funny when it happened in the anti-tobacco group, Ajay came in, endorsing his pro-life group, anti-smoking rights pro-choicers got at him, very funny. "I can do what i want with my body." from "Don't you dare smoke a cirgatte." so hilarious. i can appreciate that now that i am a libertarian.

[So does this mean you're pro-choice now?]

helll bleeping no, it's rather a long explanation on how i work my pro-life values into my libertarian philosophy.

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