[In response to a user who pointed out that Chinese and Egyptian historical records were unbroken during the time of the Great Flood, indicating the flood was not world wide]
As the flood was worldwide and everyone but Noah and his own were wiped out, that claim is a major conflict. The Word of God has the authority. I have to say that someone needs to get back to the drawing board!
The Bible gives us 4000 years of history, starting from the beginning --- history gives us another 2000 years from there --- radiometric dating gives us 4.57 billion years of age.
Put the three together, and you have the doctrine of embedded age.
I know what these people think. Yes, it is a conspiracy to undermine God's Word. You see, these independent studies are just that: independent of the truth of the Word of God. A clear agenda to discover some truth other than what we have been given already. There is no other truth, and no one has been able to disprove Creation.
If your so called "natural selection" exists, then howcome people don't have gills from using swimming pools regularly?
Your leading scientists claim that this evolution is simply adaptation in new environments, so why haven't we, who have been swimming for thousands of years developed anything. In facthow come we haven't changed at all for thousands of years.
There is only one answer: a little guy called Jesus Christ.
Because of Jesus' death on the cross, I doubt humanity will ever invent a time travel device where you can alter the past. God would want Jesus' death to be the end of sin, and not allow anyone( man or spirit), to go back in time and stop it from happening.
America is gonna get it big time... Can you say BABYLON?
The church is pandering to the filth. You can't even find a virgin in youth group these days. Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets.
Mathew Shepherd was killed while trying to turn tricks (offering drugs for sex). He left with two men to have sex with them.
Sure, it was wrong he was murdered because he gropped that guy, but can't you all find a more worthy poster child ?
[In other words, god could have created the world in such a way that when "sin" was introduced into the world, only 0.1% of recognized pregnancies would end in miscarriage, but he knowingly and purposefully decided to have about 20% of recognized pregnancies end in miscarriage.]
No He did not.
While it is true that a counsel was held prior to Creation, it is not documented that miscarriages were discussed.
Sin was discussed, and the Second Person of the Godhead volunteered to be the savior of mankind.
Evolution contradicts God in that evolution 1) denies that man was made in the image and likeness of God, thereby nullifying the theory/belief that man has a soul. 2) denies that God made them "male and female", because evolution requires that God did not make them male and female, but rather that he started out with asexual creatures and evolved them.
Evolution is antichrist.
[I find Shield of Faith's view as offensive as the smell of a dead rat.]
Remember that God does not care what you think. I also do not care what you think. You can think anything you want. You can think that ChaCha the magical flute player is singing songs of love to you. Ok.
Here is the Truth; God rules the nations. God will bless or punish as He sees fit. He has said in His Word that sin is a reproach to any nation.
Our sins in this country are out of control! God has to judge and punish us if we do not repent. It is that plain and simple.
[OK why are you using a book that we do not believe in to support your arguments?]
Well my friend 'left' of stalin, let me explain.
While you and others here are harping on the weak lie of evolution and politics left of stalin (by the way if I were ever to become a communist --my stomach gets sick at the thought-- I would throw in with Trotsky, he was way cooler than that maggott stalin, or that filth lenin!), I have a secret weapon that you do not know about. There are things in Christianity that are secret and some that are just out of sight to the unbeliever. Actually I am using the latter. But it's secret to you.
You see my friend, while you may try to use the things of this world, I have something a trillion times more powerful; the Word of God. It is actually unmeasurable, I only use 'trillion' to give you an idea of its power. Are you ready:
12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. --Heb. 4
I can just keep using this and it will do the work that God wants it to do on your heart!!! God is at work on this board. You are not here by accident. God will either push you away, or drag you to Him. I expect the latter to happen here on this board. You can not fight against the Word of God. It is eternal and powerful beyond your minds comprehension.
Hence I will use the eternal Word of God, versus all on comers.
God wins! Always!
9/11 was just a small prelude to what is about to come. God does not relish laying the Smack Down on nations. He is not up in heaven rubbing His hands together just waiting to back-hand the U.S.. However, He can only let our wickedness go so long before He has to bring judgment.
The blood of over 40,000,000 little ones is crying out of the ground to Him. The mass amount of porn, strip clubs, adultery,fornication, divorce, and homosexuality; are screaming up at Him!!! Along with our lawlessness and violence...
His hand of judgment is lifting and getting ready to drop!
As a nation, His hand will come down upon us; unless we REPENT!
SO REPENT, FOR THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS AT HAND!
(Said to a poster who lost a relative in the 9-11 attack)
Greywolf, I do not mean to be offensive. I know I am however. That still does not matter to me. I am all about 1 thing. God and His Word.
None of those other countries you mentioned have the Christian history we do. None of those countries you mention have done as much for God as our country has done.
Are you aware that the biggest church in our country when it first started was Congress? The congress building was used as a church during Sundays. It was a marvelous and awe inspiring scene. Sorry, God has blessed us over and above the rest of the world. Our country was a Christian nation. Now we are running the opposite way. God does not like His special nations playing the whore!!! Read the Word of God very carefully. You will understand that He is very displeased with those that He blesses, that turn their back on Him.
9/11 was just the beginning. There is more to follow.
You want to turn your hurtfulness into helpfulness? Start telling all your friends who are not Christians to REPENT!!!
There is law and there is grace. Innocent rape victims, you mean those that didn't scream for help? They knew the law. They weren't innocent if they were enjoying the rape. (Wonder how often this happened...) We are under grace. If you're well versed, you should be familiar with these terms. I'm not even well versed.. -_-;
Floatingaxe: Sodomy is a particularly unnatural and evil act, against the proper natural use for particular body parts.
[Even within the confines of a straight marriage? Makes foreplay kind of boring, if you ask me.]
Floatingaxe: The dirt chute is meant for outgoing waste only.
God is love and in marriage (that He has created) He rejoices in many expressions of love in the bedroom. Sodomy is not one of them..ir is perverse act that comes from the mind of Satan, who hates God and His institution of marriage, and has sought to destroy it and mankind. He hates all flesh.
Sodomy is the devil's way of flipping the bird at God.
[Why do you believe that sodomy (I'm assuming we're talking about anal sex here, btw) within a marriage is a perverse act that comes from the mind of Satan?]
Floatingaxe: Do you really think a human being thought that one up?
[If god can created the everything in the universe from nothing why did he need make man from dirt off the ground?
All the other life on the planet seems to have been just created, why the need in creating man did he use dirt.
The only thing I can think of is this is a kind of insult.]
Because He wanted to.
The Bible says we're "made in His image". Definitely doesn't sound like an insult to me. Anyway, personally I'd rather be made from dirt by God than by evolution
Rearrange the letters in SANTA and you have
SATAN
And since Satan is the negation of God, we can be sure he's going to take something like CHRISTmas and turn it into something pagan and secular, which is why we have to greet each other with terms the atheists and secularlists love, like "Happy Holidays" and "Seasons Greetings" instead of "Merry CHRISTmas".
I've said this before, and I'll say it again:
GOD'S LAW IS CLEAR -- THE PENALTY SEVERE!!!
YOU DON'T BREAK GOD'S LAWS --
GOD'S LAWS BREAK YOU!!!
(In response to one poster's claim that if Christianity were a truly virtuous religion, Fundies would strive to make starvation non-existent, promote ecological awareness, and fervently pursue equitable distribution of wealth, etc.)
"Well if I am bad to someone intentionally I would have them do unto me as bad or worse as I did unto them because I would feel I desreve it.
Wars in the world are to prove Jesus was right.
Matthew 24 : 6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of birth pains.
(Eartquakes cause Tsunamis)
World hunger is because of lack of belief in Christ and proof that Christs word is correct.
Christianity is not here to prevent world hunger. It is to teach us to be happy hungry . persecuted or in any circumstance.
The ecological shape the world is in is proof that the prophecies in the Bible are real.
Global warming will cause adverse weather causin 100 pound as Prophecied.
Air pollution hugely increases the size of hail , and thus the amount of damage it can cause to crops and property, according to a study presented Wednesday at the European Conference on Severe Storms"
There doesn't need to be any reasons given. God says it is wrong, and that's it. I don't need any reasons.
Its ok to stone out of control children... I would have no problem if the neighborhood stoned some cocky, immature arrogant kid .. Ive had my apartment robbed, car stolen, computer taken because of juveniles.
Homosexuals should be executed if they continue to live in rebellion to God's law. Everyone deserves a second chance to clean themselves up , but if it continues then Leviticus states that it is an abomination in God's sight and they must be executed..
[A Fundie characterizes his opponents]
Isn't it funny, I don't walk around thinking about Gay marriage, and only give my views when it comes up, but it seems like those on the other side [gays] of this issue just seem obcessed.
I guess it's hard for most students to appreciate how it's actually pretty useful for everybody to support some core beliefs. It isn't so hard to participate, after all.
Some day a radical kid in among the other students will go ahead and recite whatever he wants. He will say, "I believe I will kill every American youth around me because I hate every living one of them. This is what I believe." And if we support everybody's freedom to say and think whatever they want, it can be a pretty dangerous world.
Honestly, belief in a Judeo-Christian God is far superior than all the academic dribble about personal freedom. We are all servants of consumerism and industry. There is no true freedom. But even those who are shackled can live in relative peace and harmony by their shared values and beliefs.
My ministry spent a summer in Africa in 2005. There were alot of sick people in the villages we visited. For the most part, these people could not get medical help for their ailments. We healed at lest 300 people that summer through prayer and scripture-readings. On one occasion, a secular and self-proclaimed "compassionate" doctor was treating an AIDS-infected child. Even though he claims that he was servicing the village for free, his intentions were obviously sininister. He didn;t even once pray to God during the procedure. He even had the nerve to tell a few of my ministers to leave the hut. He would't even let them pray over the child and read verses from the Bible. Well, thankfully my ministers had the courage to drag the doctor out of the hut so that they could let God work His will.
Thank God they removed the doctor, because that child was miracoulously healed that very day!
My ministry will be going to South America this coming Spring. I'll keep you updated.
[without using your Bible]
Without my Bible???
Trying to disarm me? That Bible is the only offensive Weapon mentioned in the arsenal against Satan in Ephesians 6.
It pwns more "scientists" and atheists per square mile, than Roundup pwns weeds.
Pagans havebeen persecuted like every group at some point in history.
But Pagans were never persecuted by Chritsians.
Only by Catholics and protestants in the USA.
There is a difference between Catholics , protestants, and Christian you know that right??
Jesus was tempted with gravitational theory by satan.
[This posted in response to a user who said "communism, I think, is okay."]
New wage, sorry, communism is the worst of all of them when it comes to murdering human beings. There has been more human beings murdered under the name of communism than any other thing on this earth ever. So burning the communist manifesto is a beautiful thing.
Caling Christians silly is not the same as calling someone who believes in fairy unicorns silly. Christianity and other ancient religions have a background to them, a real framework of sorts to be based upon. Unicorns, fairies and their half-breed childkin are based only on mythical stories passed down through the ages.
Good points! In Canada, homo-fascism is prevalent. Not only are any public pronouncements against homosexuality essentially banned, but pro-homosexual indoctrination it is now becoming compulsory education in a number of provinces. And you can forget the idea of freedom of association.
EVOLUTION is the secularization of Christian spirituality. It repesents the dumbing down of faith to the point of non-existance. The economy of the United States is being destroyed by industrial spendthrifts who would rather pay higher taxes, import tarrifs, and export fees (all at the expense of the American worker), so they can get cheap labor and lead painted products.
One doesn't have to know anything about evolution in order to be either a physician, an industrialist, or a technician. All one needs is drive, curiosity, and love of others. These are not taught in any science class on "evolution." Being a dumb chimp relative, just might be.
Burning evil books is a beautiful thing. Purging evil is a very good thing.
We need a lot more book burnings. Here are the top 5.
1. ) The satanic bible.
2. ) The communist manifesto.
3. ) Mein Kampf.
4. ) Every and all things dealing with the nasty lie of evolution.
5. ) harry potter, all things pertaining to.
We'll start here and work our way down the food chain of evil. Let's get the fires started!!!
I have the first match!!!
well its obvious you do not understand the severity of sin as I can tell from your post..Everyone on earth has the free will to except Christ or not. Jesus said I am the truth, the way and the life. Without justice how can there be mercy? You take away the justice from God and God isn't God anymore. By a damned sinner going to heaven would impede on God's justice.
The countrys that the 2004 tsunami was on were many countrys who severely persecuted christians. In fact that area is where some of the worst persecution is of christians(Thailand, Sri, Indonesia)..that area alone is responsible for the deaths of millions of christians. So when I see something like that happen, I am not in the least bit surprised..
Where did I ever say that women pastors are whores? We all can be whores in God's eyes both men and women when we depart from the clear teachings of the Word of God. God calls the final church of the final apostasy THE GREAT WHORE. This church is being built before your very eyes. The next big push of this apostate whorish church is the ordination of women. Who is resisting it?
The churches are filled with rock and roll, Christians are getting tattooed and following the teachings of witchcraft(Harry Potter). Go over to the teen forum and look. They have a thread on nude beaches and 80% of them see nothing wrong with it! Where is the preaching against sin? Do you think women pastors will preach against sin when their very presence in the pulpit is a sin and great rebellion against God's clear command:
14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
14:36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
Did Paul hate women for saying this? Does God hate women for commanding it? God forbid! But the fact is that the world is invading the church, and feminism is satan's great push right now. Are you more offended by my preaching against rebellion than the fact that "christians" see nothing wrong with public nudity? What's next, "christian" strippers, "christian" astrologers, "christian" pornography"? Where does it all end? Babylon and the judgement of God, that's where.
[LittleNipper's response to: "Creationism is dangerous. I know we've gone around and around about this before. But it's dangerous because it teaches children to lie. It teaches children that the god they believe in is a deceiver and it teaches people that belief is more important that facts."]
EVOLUTION is dangerous. It teaches the impressionable that there only exists natural explanations for everything that happens. It is presented as faultless fact discovered through man's abilities. It is taught without consideration of any other interpretations of the data. It is presented without classroom experimentation or general debate.
Here are my Four Biblical Refutations Against Evolution:
1. NOT ENOUGH TIME.
- The Bible portrays this universe as having been in existence for approximately 6100 years. This is much too short a time for evolution to work.
2. GOD'S CREATION LEFT NO ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT.
- Six times in Genesis 1, God pronounces his Creation "good". Then He steps back and pronounces the whole thing "very good".
- Evolution, on the other hand, demands room for improvement.
3. THERE WAS NO DEATH IN GENESIS ONE.
- The Bible portrays death as an enemy of God.
1 Corinthians 15:26
The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
- Evolution, on the other hand, works by leaving a trail of death behind.
4. JESUS TAUGHT CREATION.
Mark 10:6
But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
Mark 13:19
For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.
- Jesus takes Genesis One literally --- in fact --- He wrote it.
"Trot, here is something to remember. 9/11 happened. You may not think that it did, but you'd be wrong.
As far as God making man out of the dust of the earth, and Eve made from Adam's rib; it is all true. Here is how we know this.
JESUS CHRIST ROSE FROM THE DEAD!
Since that happened, then everything in the Word happened.
If you or anyone else does not believe that Jesus rose from the dead, then what you are saying is you don't believe the testimonies of the witnesses that saw Him rise from the dead.
Here is the problem. You are denying credible witnesses. It is just like me saying, "I don't believe that the Twin Towers were blown up by terrorists." All the footage is a lie. I was not there and I did not see any terrorist do anything wrong. If the footage was even real, then I believe that it was the Canadian government that sent agents to fly those planes into those buildings.
How do we really know that there were 'terrorists' on those planes? I wasn't there, I didn't see any terrorists do anything that day. The flight manifests could have been doctored very easily. The film itself could have been doctored. I wasn't there, so how do I really know that the Twin Towers were destroyed by terrorists??? How?
You say you have 'Eye witnesses'? Jesus had thousands of 'Eye witnesses' to His miracles!!!
You are calling the 'Eye witnesses' of Jesus' miracles liars. I can call the so called 9/11 wittinesses liars. How do I really know that someone who says that they were there, was really there? I'm going to just believe JoJo the street peddler who says he was selling watches two buildings away from the Towers when they went up in smoke?
See, it is real easy to smear doubt on anything.
You say the Bible has no proof? You have the same "proof" of 9/11 as Christ has for raising from the dead. Witnesses! Real people who say something and are telling of what they saw.
Now remember this: I HAVE YET TO SEE ANY 9/11 WITNESS BEING CRUCIFIED UPSIDE DOWN FOR THEIR TESTIMONIES (remember St. Peter?).
You have to base your disbelief on FAITH that you believe that they are liars!!!!
Face it my friend, JESUS CHRIST rose from the dead and that is a wonderful thing!!!
SOLI DEO GLORIA!!!"
[There is no evidence for Creationism]
That's because Jesus took the evidence back to Heaven with Him.
From what I have seen though, the biggest problem is the lack of scientific understanding. If more people knew more about science, then they would have a better understanding of creationism.
Makes no sense why im on there [FSTDT] but im rejoicing because blessings are coming my way from this persecution ! For Jesus states that those who are being persecuted rejoice! Why not put this up there too! Heathens!
[It's not blasphemous, it's hilarious. (in reference to FSTDT)
Christians believing that there's no such thing as gravity, and our sin is what weighs us down..... honestly *shakes head*]
No some are trying to make a point but others turn it around for amusement. And its mocking Christians which is an extremly ungodly .. its a common trait of a heathen.
9/11 was horrible. However, I do feel that this is only the beginning of disastrous events that will befall the U.S.. Our sin will find us out. God will not let our wickedness go on forever. Or He will have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorah. Just a tip; GOD does not have to apologize for anything. Never has, and never will. So you know what that means!!!
Top 5 things to do to stop more 9/11 disasters from hitting the U.S..
1. ) Stop murdering our children through abortion. Stop now!
2. ) Destroy all pornography in this country.
3. ) Destroy all strip clubs in this country.
4. ) Stop the promotion and practice of homosexuality.
5. ) REPENT FOR THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS AT HAND!
We can start here and move forward.
"Isn't it funny how atheist-taught "science" and Satan are so closely related doctrinally?"
When being a christian its not about being logical, its about having faith, faith that the word of God and that alone is true. If the bible says Jesus will return believe it ! If it says God created the Earth in 6 days then He did beleive that !
abortion is wrong. the first thing to develop is the heart. the heart gives life, controls feelings, and generates love. (ever notice how your heart beats faster when youre around someone you love?) thus, killing a baby is wrong.
I see, but what you fail to understand is that those nations that God had annihilated were EVIL. They were violent, child-sacrificing pagans that spat in God's face even though He continued showing them that He loved them (i.e. giving them plentiful land, bountiful harvests, to say nothing of the other countless blessings on the individual people). Finally, God said: "you have disobeyed my laws and refused to acknowledge me. though I loved you, you hated me. these are the consequences." God still loved them, but they refused to show Him even the slightest hint of love. Why should He continue pouring out His blessings on wretched nations when they turn their backs on Him?
The only ice age was the one that began shortly after the Flood and has continued into the present day, although thankfully the earth may be finally beginning to warm up.[b/]
On fstdt...
This site is run by a bunch of sodomites who scour other Christian sites to find foder for their mockery of the gospel in the first place, then they rate it as to how "crazy" the statement sounds to them. They are trying to get a laugh at someone's expense because their own lives have little or no meaning, so they find their worth in "de humanizing" others.
[If having a child is “God’s will” why would God then need a virus to control the population?]
In order to "weed" out those that God does not want