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Tucker Carlson and Ben Garrison #wingnut #conspiracy

This is a reference to the fact that Senator Kevin McCarthy gave away the J6 Commission’s footage which had not yet been released to the public, to Tucker Carlson and only Tucker Carlson, no one else. (I won’t dignify him with the title of “Speaker”. He gave away most of his power to the Sedition Caucus just to ensure he got the title, anyway.) It’s not clear whether he had the authority to do that. Regardless, Tuck finally aired his scoop last night. All he’s got is a weaksauce attempt to throw out everything that’s been revealed so far and replace it with a manufactured narrative. Even by his standards, it was actually kind of pathetic - apparently not all of his fans are sold. Some of them are very invested in the narrative that J6 happened largely as described but was totally justified.

Matt Walsh #transphobia #wingnut

I suppose if one were being generous (I know, Matty-Matty doesn’t deserve generosity) one could say that we (collective we, not just trans people) are at war with your sense of normality. Problem is, your sense of normality requires you to force it on everyone else, and it’s a really sucky situation for everyone else. Sure, it’s going to be real sucky for you when the world no longer matches your worldview, but if living in a world that is uncomfortable is good enough for other people, then it’s good enough for you.

EMPRESS #moonbat #sexist #transphobia #homophobia #conspiracy #elitist

you have completely lost your identity

Pretty sure that getting rid of an identity which was forced on you and you never wanted and replacing it with one which is more suitable isn’t remotely comparable to “completely losing” having an identity of any kind. And if it’s meant along the lines of “you’ve lost every kind of identifying traits which think should matter” then that’s really shallow. Also, why should the vast majority of people, trans or otherwise, care what you think? They don’t know you.

Sheogorath #dunning-kruger #elitist #pratt #sexist

I’m not sure if trolling incels is the best idea. On one hand, maybe if enough people manage to stealth Poe them to the point where some of those who haven’t gotten in too deep flee in terror and/or disgust, that’s probably a good thing? But if it makes any of them worse, that would probably be rather bad.

VillageBear #transphobia

Biological sex is real, and it is not “assigned” at birth

I’m moderately curious if they’d have a problem with something like “Assigned Gender Role At Birth”, or if they’d suddenly get a bit closer to understanding, and refuse to engage further.

Forensic Healing #crackpot #quack #conspiracy #wingnut #ufo

Graphene oxide is not black. It’s silver-colored. Also not a fluid.

Ferrofluid is black, but it’s not graphene anything. It’s nanoparticles of magnetite or hematite suspended in oil.

If you can’t even get this most basic information right…

Ben Garrison #transphobia

Why do woke corporations think we want trans propaganda with our purchases?

They don’t, but your outrage provides them with free advertising, and you get occasional people who otherwise wouldn’t buy their product buying it once or twice just to trigger the cons. And then you also get occasional dumbasses who buy a product just to destroy it in protest (or even destroy their existing product and replace it with a different brand/model from the same company). If it didn’t work well enough to more than overcome any losses at least sometimes, they wouldn’t keep doing it. (Also specifically in regards to Hershey’s, chocolate companies do outrageous things occasionally in part to distract people from their child labor lawsuits.) Free hand of the market, baby.

There do exist a small number of companies who specifically cater to specific political/social sensibilities, and some do so because the owners think some things are more important than massive profits, but they’re rather low-key about it. Nobody paid that much attention to Hobby Lobby until the artifact smuggling scandal, for example.

Senator Clay Yarborough & Florida republicans #transphobia

Didn’t we have a civil war in part over the Southern States violating the Northern States’ sovereignty in a similar fashion? (By kidnapping escaped slaves, or occasionally, people who had never been slaves.)

Make It A Mac Tonight #transphobia

At this rate “transgenders” are going to become a pastiche of random weird shit that various people’s uncle’s cousin’s hairdresser’s boyfriend’s roommate’s cocker spaniel’s vet’s one-time fling said they saw once while high on LSD, to the point where no one would ever recognize a real trans person unless someone else pointed them out.

[Edited for clarity]

Brett Lang #wingnut #conspiracy

I never heard any “Joe Biden or we riot”. I did hear a little bit of “Bernie Sanders or we riot” but they were far too few to matter and everyone else on the left told them to shut up.

Michael Knowles #transphobia #wingnut #psycho

This reminds me of a conversation I had several years ago. Some dude insisted that trans women aren’t “real” women, using a purely anatomical argument - that the surgical alteration doesn’t result in quite the same thing as someone born as a different physical sex. I pointed out that the surgery was getting better all the time, organ cloning was very likely to be a thing eventually, and even post-natal gene therapy and bone reshaping were at least reasonably possible, if likely quite a ways off. Then I asked, if all that were happening right now, would he consider them “real” women then? And the only response I got was “That’s crossing a dangerous line”. I tried to get him to explain *why* it would be dangerous, and he refused to engage any further.

I mention it because these types never say why crossing gender and/or sex lines is bad, beyond sometimes a vague “because God”. They just “know” that it’s so bad that they have to tack on a whole evil ideology which they made up themselves in order to justify their extreme overreactions, because they can’t even come up with an actual reason.

Brian Niemeier #conspiracy #fundie #wingnut #dunning-kruger #mammon

the Fall is so self-evident that any religion claiming universal moral authority must address it.

If you mean that “it is self-evident that The Fall happened”, no it was not. No mention of such a thing exists outside the Torah (and books directly derived from it, like the Old Testament) and for most of human existence creation myths were along the lines of “the Gods were bored and wanted new toys to play with”. And, I guess, that in at least some cases humans were permanently “cursed” in some manner, but the manner and timing varies wildly.

If you mean that “the idea of The Fall is self-evidently correct”, then needing to handwave away the aspects of it which make God look like a morally deranged asshat is pretty much the opposite of self-evidently correct.

Freedom Law School/Peymon Mottahedeh #crackpot #wingnut #conspiracy #mammon

It’s true that, if you don’t have a legal job or are poor enough that you don’t owe much if any income taxes, the odds of getting in trouble with the IRS are rather tiny. You can thank Republicans repeatedly slashing the IRS budget and Democrats not doing a whole lot to bring it back up for that. That’s because the IRS currently doesn’t have the manpower to go after anything more than the lowest-hanging fruit, not because your SovCit nonsense has any sort of validity.

Pleiades 1 via Neva (Gabriel RL) #ufo #magick #conspiracy

seventeenth dimension

Now they’re just taking the piss.

Alex Newman/Greg Hunter #conspiracy #wingnut #quack

Note about Bill Gates: He has said in the past that population growth is “out of control”, so he spends a lot of money on education and health care (vaccines included) in the third world in order to give the people living there a better quality of life, so that they’ll be motivated to have fewer children. That’s a really weird way of putting it, so it’s certainly possible that his motivations might secretly be racist (white savior syndrome? to keep white people from becoming even more of a global minority?) but there’s no evidence that his foundation is sterilizing people. The idea that Bill Gates wants to reduce the population seems to have come from a 2010 statement about “reducing population growth” which was bizarrely misinterpreted by conspiracy theorists as “making the population growth negative”.

Neioh via Family Of Taygeta #crackpot #ufo #magick

@kuyohashi #158211

There’s also a reason why large ancient structures are so often pyramids or ziggurats; it’s because they’re really easy to design and build, it just takes a lot of time and material. No special mysticism needs to be involved. It’s not like ancient people even needed to be geniuses, they just needed sufficient motivation (coercion, greed, and religious fervor all count as motivations), organization, and surplus labor.

Blaise Ingoglia #wingnut

I honestly have no idea what the constitutionality of this would be; it’s never been tested AFAIK, and the US Constitution doesn’t even mention political parties, because the writers had other, more pressing concerns. And most of the Founders (regardless of their direct involvement or lack thereof) weren’t very fond of the idea of “factions” to begin with.

Neioh via Family Of Taygeta #crackpot #ufo #magick

The center of the Great Pyramid of Giza is located at ~29.979°N, yes. But let me ask you this. If the location was so significant, and for that very specific reason, then why did the Aliens not teach the Egyptians the concept of “meter”? They used cubits for measurement. And if they expected humans to eventually figure that on their own, why is the concept of a meter based on the exact longitude of the French Academy of Sciences and not the Great Pyramid?

Makia Freeman #quack #wingnut #conspiracy

Not this shit again. Why haven’t they been permanently shut down? Assuming that “black seed oil” refers to black caraway (also known as black cumin), it’s generally believed to have mild anti-inflammation properties, but has not been rigorously tested. Chlorine Dioxide is just industrial bleach. It’s highly caustic, and not considered safe for household cleaning use in most countries due to harsher fumes and greater risk of skin and eye damage, let alone a legitimate form of medicine.

Danlboon #crackpot #wingnut #conspiracy #mammon

Sounds like this person knows that laws don’t really work the way SovCits think they do, instead they just really want the laws to be “reformed” to work like some of the less wacky SovCit ideas. Which is still pretty wacky, mind you, because SovCit ideas were invented by people who are/were very selfishly motivated, have less understanding of how and why law works than the average person (and the average person has a rather shaky grasp of it to begin with), and have no grasp of wider consequences.

Feynman and Coulter's Love Child #fundie #racist #wingnut #transphobia

This made me wonder if there is actually any “official” stance on trans people within Judaism. By my (admittedly very quick and shallow) research, most branches of Orthodox Judaism conform to the idea of a strict gender/sex binary, while most branches of Reform Judaism have long held that Adam was originally androgynous and that “gender fluid” individuals should be accepted and embraced. The term “gender fluid” in this context is a broad category referring to anyone who doesn’t fit in a strict gender/sex binary (including trans people) not genderfluid people specifically.

I’m not sure you could really make a religious argument there which wouldn’t be better done as a secular one, but it could at least reasonably be framed as one.

Roderic Day #moonbat

It’s annoying enough when you have to “people can care about more than one thing” a right-winger; it’s even more annoying when you have to do that with someone who is at least nominally left-wing.

…I just verbed an entire sentence.

various commenters #sexist #homophobia

This might initially seem weird in the light that TERFs (at least in the sense of ones which are vaguely feminist and aren’t garden-variety transphobes appropriating feminist language) are normally lesbian-friendly, if not lesbian themselves. You’d think they’d at least be tolerant of the subset of men who are clearly allies to lesbians and as a whole clearly aren’t harassing or abusing women, right? But if they’re far gone enough to be regulars on Ovarit or similar sites, then *all* AMAB people are violent and depraved, no exceptions. And all women conform to a very narrow range of sexuality, to the point where they can’t even admit that most women have sexual fantasies, while much of what men want is gross and/or abusive. In that light, gay men are barely better.

Now I will admit there certainly exist men who demand casual sex with women, and demand no risk or consequences for themselves, socially punish women who engage in casual sex, and occasionally even demand no condoms or birth control on top of that. They’re a very tiny, but very loud minority. They’re also chronic virgins or near-virgins, because no one wants that if they have any real options.

Donald Trump Jr. #wingnut

Oh, I suspect they do care about more than one thing, maybe not very many things. They just think of half of them as very normal things which shouldn’t need mentioning (and depending on what they are, they might even be right) and the other half are rolled together as part of a single agenda. Except don’t call it an agenda, that’s what their enemies do, it’s what God expects of them, so it’s kind of religious? But not their religion. It’s all very confusing if you think about it too hard, which is why they don’t bother to think. 😜

AugustinaJJD #wingnut

Google doesn’t seem to know what they mean either, best it can do is suggest “fascias” and “waycross”.

M M and Pamela Thomas #conspiracy #wingnut

I’m assuming that BRIC is actually a reference to BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa). This isn’t an actual political or economic alliance, it’s just a list of countries which are expected to become economic powerhouses in the mid-21st century. I mean, sure, an all-out war with NATO would knock Russia off that list, and the current war likely endangers that, but it wouldn’t affect any of others, unless so many nukes went flying that it pretty much collapsed civilization everywhere. The only thing which even vaguely makes sense is if the US were to find excuses to attack the others after taking out Russia, but I can’t imagine why anyone would think that would be a good idea. “Greed” is not a magic answer, greedy isn’t necessarily stupid, let alone suicidally insane.

Vincent James and Steven Franssen #racist #wingnut

It’s mostly not minorities who are voting to turn red states into third world hellholes.

Akira Toriyama #racist

There are black people in Japan. Not a lot - I couldn’t find any specific stats with a quick check, only that they’re typically lumped with “other” which was 1.2% as of 2020 - but it does appear that most of them (or their parents/grandparents) came from USA, Ghana, or Brazil. That’s not counting black US soldiers stationed there, who are in the country long-term but not citizens.

Japan may not be racially diverse, but it’s technically incorrect to say that they don’t live there. And metaphorically it’s dismissing them as not mattering, which is at best, rude, and at worst, dehumanizing.

Thomas Müller #wingnut #homophobia #transphobia #enbyphobia #conspiracy

“Where are the parents” - I will point out that half of Gen-Z / Zoomers are currently 17 or older and the oldest ones are 26. Even among the ones which are still minors, some of them have parents who are willing to allow a great deal of freedom in regards to exploring personal identities, it’s not strictly divided between “controlling” and “neglectful” like you seem to be suggesting. Also, I don’t know what stats you’re using, but the recent Gallup poll put it at 5.6% gay / lesbian, 13.1% bisexual, 1.5% other (“Other” includes asexuals, and it’s not clear how many pansexuals chose “other” rather than bisexual) for Gen-Z. There’s also the matter that Gallup may not have polled very many people under 18 (it doesn’t say), rendering the parent thing largely moot. It also didn’t say anything about how many specifically identify as straight. I’m going to assume that if only ~~~44%~~ 48% identified as straight in some other source, then the remaining ~~~36%~~ 32% are mostly “not sure” with maybe a bit of heteroflexible thrown in. I mean, while half of them are adults or nearly so, the other half are teenagers and kids, and they don’t always completely know themselves. (Assuming that a significant number of under-18s were polled by this alternate source, which I have no way of knowing.)

Alternately you read the stat that 62% of LGBTQIA+ people identify as bisexual, rounded it off to 60 (and rounded 5.6 to 6), subtracted 100% - 60% - 6% = 44%, in which case your math is wrong because it actually equals 34%. Also that’s mixing different kinds of stats, which is a no-no. I mean, I hope it’s not something really stupid like that, but I wouldn’t be surprised.

[Edit: I messed up, it’s “48% identify as straight”, the 44% refers to something else. Ignore my entire last paragraph. It might still be bad math though.]

John DeNugent #racist #wingnut #homophobia #conspiracy

Okaaaay. Germany colonizing the present-day US, and then setting up a homeland-in-exile like the pre-Maoist Chinese government in Taiwan, is a really weird fantasy.

I guess I can sort of understand the appeal, given that certain parts of the eastern US have significant German-descended population, and that Nazis can thrive in the US more easily than their native Germany. But you might want to rethink that. Aside from “more easily” still isn’t easy, most the Germans and their descendants in the US either predated the 20th century by quite a lot (and have fully assimilated, created their own german-american subculture, or are Amish) or were refugees from the World Wars. And virtually all of the ones who were refugees from WWII were escaping Nazis specifically. I don’t think you’d find a whole lot of sympathy for your colonization fantasy here.

The avanguardista #ableist

I watched a video recently where the person in question stated that most people who make videos only show one side of themselves, the side which is most relevant to the main focus of their videos, and often an exaggerated version of it at that. While I don’t personally know any actors or vtubers, so I couldn’t confirm that statement, it was not at all surprising. Maybe because I’ve done a lot of dating over the years? A lot of people don’t show their full selves until a few months into the relationship. That’s not the same thing, but it does clearly show that people can seem limited without being so.

Jennifer Bilek #crackpot #pratt #transphobia

Your lack of imagination and/or empathy shouldn’t be anyone else’s concern. Emphasis on “shouldn’t”, because people like you tend to make it other people’s concern.

Matt Walsh #wingnut #transphobia

a movement which actively seeks to turn my children into Dylan Mulvaney

It’s interesting, how, on the subject of nature vs. nurture, these people come down on the side of close to 100% nurture… and also that only the parents have the “right” to the vast majority share of that nurture.

Clif High #wingnut #conspiracy #racist

“We are the counter-conspiracy!” Dude, you keep getting smacked down by the FBI (and their approximate counterparts in other countries) because you can’t keep your mouths shut. Like right now.

Answers In Genesis #fundie

Sure, the outer parts of the Mandelbrot Set can get pretty trippy if you use the orbit trap coloring, but wait until you see all the other semi-well-known fractals, like Newton’s Fractal¹, Tricorn, Buffalo Head, Douady Rabbit, or Burning Ship. That’s not even getting into 3-D fractals like the Mandelbulb or Menger Sponge, or things like what happens to the Mandelbot set when you invert it or mess with the exponent. If you really get into how fractals work, it might give you a bit deeper insight of the nature of math and/or biology, but it doesn’t prove that God exists or had any involvement with either.

¹While named for Isaac Newton, he didn’t discover it.

JonFreeman #wingnut

Let’s respond to this statement seriously.

It don’t think it’s entirely accurate to call the average liberal “live and let live”, though I admit that it might simply be a different perception as to what that phrase implies, or a different baseline as to what counts as relaxed acceptance. So let’s grant that it’s true, at least relative to the OP’s perspective and/or standards. There’s still a limit to how far that goes. Virtually nobody is going to say “You like murdering people for fun? Eh, it’s fine, I won’t even resist if you want to kill me, you do you.” Likewise, most people are going to draw a line at anything with is pretty obviously harmful to others. This isn’t hypocrisy; “not causing harm to others” is very much baked into most people’s “live and let live” framework.

Now some religious fundies are going to say “but what about the soul? Isn’t it important to keep people from harming their soul, or at least not coercing others into doing it?” No, because it’s not an obvious harm. Not everyone believes in souls, not everyone believes in souls follows the same doctrines or conceives of “harm to the soul” in the same fashion, and most people with a “live and let live” attitude who also believe in souls usually believe that the only true way to harm one’s soul is to do material harm to others. Also, coercion is indeed bad because it conflicts with the sort of personal freedom that the “live and let live” attitude tries to promote, and boy do the practices of religious fundies look coercive…

(You’ll note that I didn’t address the subject of self-harm; that’s a complicated issue which would take up too much space to address here.)

tehgymcel420 #sexist #psycho #dunning-kruger

Have you met a woman? Or a cat? Or a person without a bestiality fetish?

Marjorie Taylor Greene #wingnut

Can’t take credit for this joke, but: She wants a divorce? Given what happened with her own union, we should assume that she’s been cheating on America with other countries.

(For reference, MTG cheated on her husband twice, both times for years. While he initiated the divorce, she celebrated getting rid of him after it went through.)

Ray Comfort #conspiracy #fundie

So, the US and Somalia are in end times, but nowhere else?

Ben Bartee #conspiracy #dunning-kruger #wingnut

There are certainly some scientific models which we hope will someday be replaced, because we know that they’re fundamentally flawed, but they’ve failed to be replaced because they still work better than the alternatives.

The idea that science is an orthodoxy comes from big-ego scientists who are all like “but… my proposal is elegant, and beauty is truth!” Sorry, reality isn’t required to conform to your sense of aesthetics.

JonFreeman #wingnut #racist

Tucker Carlson #wingnut #conspiracy

@TheKingOfRhye #156872

Tuck’s usual shtick is to leave out vital information, and then “just ask questions” about the missing information, in a leading way that implies a specific, incorrect answer. There used to be some room for doubt whether he’s actually ignorant and is just a mouthpiece for his writers, or if he actually knows that he’s being deceptive, but the Dominion lawsuit has recently uncovered emails which indicate that the latter is true.

they-called-me-terfy #homophobia #sexist #transphobia

A lot of Suffragettes were racist, classist, and homophobic. They were primarily interested in the needs and comfort of well-off white women, and if any of it incidentally benefited other women, it barely mattered so long as those women otherwise stayed in their place. Not every suffragette, of course, and there were some lower-class women in the movement (though lower-class women were more often involved in the labor movement instead), but enough of them were that I don’t especially care what the typical one might have thought about any of today’s civil rights struggles. It’s what-if mental masturbation which is not particularly relevant to today’s issues.

Mandy , tahmahrah & Hermione #transphobia

@Sasha #156849

Mostly they’re mad at this one meme of Lily Hoshigawa (the trans girl from the anime Zombieland Saga) holding a gun while smiling cutely, captioned “Shut the fuck up TERF”. https://www.reddit.com/r/ZombielandSaga/comments/bjly3t/a_printed_picture_of_a_meme_with_lily_was_held_up/ There are *very* few other such images and quotes, all of which are even more obscure than this one, and yet the fact that any exist at all is taken as evidence that trans people are violent.

Tucker Carlson #wingnut #conspiracy

Two responses came to mind almost immediately:

“Yes, it was. God wanted Biden to win.”

“Fucking elections, how do they work?”

Richard Lopez #crackpot #conspiracy #wingnut

@TheKingOfRhye #156789

It *is* a word, just an obscure and largely obsolete one. It means to be burdened or challenged. (Verb form: to whelm) “Overwhelmed” is to be burdened or challenged more than you can handle; underwhelmed is of more recent coinage and was originally meant to imply that you were expecting or prepared for much more/worse than you got, though some people use it more like “unimpressed”. Regardless, if you want to use the word that way, you’re free to do so; I expect most people will get what you’re saying in context, even if that’s not quite the original meaning.

Wyoming Republicans #fundie

I will point out that most US states, the age of marriage laws are one of the following:

17, parental consent irrelevant
18 without parental consent and either 15 or 16 with parental consent
18 for men and 16 for “women”, parental consent irrelevant
Also in some states the courts can grant exemptions under certain limited circumstances, provided they’re at least the age of parental consent.

It’s like this because the ages of marriage were set in the 19th century and have mostly not been updated. There are a few oddballs out there: in Nebraska the age is 19 (17 with parental consent), and New Hampshire is 13 with parental consent and 17 without. Wyoming currently puts the age of marriage at 16 but allows some parental and court-approvable exemptions which have no lower age limit. To be fair, California also has some court-approvable exemptions which have no lower age limit (though in practice, they’re rather unlikely to be granted these days. Otherwise the age limit is 18). The proposed law would simply bring things in line with most other states. Which of course conservatives are against. And as it’s been pointed out, some of them are not too keen on the idea of children consenting to their own marriage, and that only what the parents want should matter, and under certain circumstances it’s possible to effectively enforce that under existing Wyoming law. Which is especially pernicious given that the minimum age of divorce in that state is 18.

Mandy , tahmahrah & Hermione #transphobia

While it doesn’t get as much attention as trans women being in WLW spaces, trans men being in MLM spaces has been a thing for some time. Most of the cis men in those spaces are okay with it; it obviously doesn’t mean that the (mostly, but not entirely) gay male portion of it would necessarily be into having sex with them because genital preferences are a thing for gay men too, and obviously occasional MLM groups hostile to trans men exist, but for the most part dudes like this are just whiny jackasses who are soon to find themselves unwelcome, if they aren’t already.

Lisa Morgan #racist #transphobia

Okay. I knew that Posie Parker was active in both Gender-Critical Feminism circles and White Supremacy circles, so I’m unsurprised that she’s a fan of Hitler. I *am* surprised that she seems to being going in the direction of “Hitler was good and wise, while LGBTQIA+ people are bad because they’re like Nazis!” That’s real off-the-deep-end stuff.