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Carico #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

So now that Pluto is considered a star, not a planet, where does its light come from? Did it suddenly burst into flames and generate its own light? No, it didn't. It's light is the same light that is reflected off Mars. So the claims by scientists that stars generate their own light is sheer nonsense. It's as much speculation as speculating on how many stars there are in the universe.

sally345 #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

Just wait it will be back.

Here in America, we got our US prez going to scrape and bow before his master...{no other visiting dignitary in America has had the prez go run to meet him at the airport}

That is one reason things are going so bad here and freedoms going by the way side. Just wait til Hillary and/or Obama past the hate crime laws that make direct criticisim of Roman Catholicism or other false religions like Islam criminal.

They are setting things up to bring a new inquisition, count on it.

wScott #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

(thread is about expelled the movie )

The first movie I've willing gone to in thirty years. The volumn was way too loud. But seriously, academia is doing everything it can to wipe out Christianity, and without God's help they will be successful.

discerner #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

Neither does the Catholic church exist in the Bible, it's an invention of man.

Note: I'm talking of the official Catholic religion headed by the Pope, not he universal or catholic church of Christ which includes all of the saved. It can be confusing since the official Catholic religion has "borrowed" the word catholic for their name while having no idea what the catholic church really is.

Dylan #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

ok, fact based on something right? says alot does it?
Darwin couldnt explain the human eye Brother! Darwins Theory is Racist, did you know that? Common descent from where? How, i prefer the Genesis 11 explanation. So with missing Links apparently, evolution is now true and has been tested and verified?

Not really, look at the meaning of those words, i used many words to show you, you dismiss the meaning, it does say alot quiet frankly.

Science has made tremendous marks over time, funny they established those other findings and this one they call a theory!

Please explain the human eye to me. Were we blind at one stage, or are you going to say that the eye was the first thing that evolved and everything else followed?

Scarlets79 #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

Evolution and Global Warming- they are dogmas. They started off as scientific ideas then became dogmas, despite the hard data not supporting them as time goes on. The earth is cooler today than in 1998 and the middle ages. Transitionl fossils have not been found and abiogenesis shown to be patently absurd and life far more complicated than Darwin thought. But no data is allowed to bring down these secular dogma. Replacing Genesis an Revelation is just too important to the secularists. Once the authority of the Bible is totally undermined in society then the secularists can pass all kinds of ungodly legislation to please the abortion and homosexual etc. lobbies.

mickey #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

Science is not open to alternatives - because by its nature it cannot be. Science cannot consider God's possible work and therefore is not able to analyze such evidences.

Therefore, you people are fundamentalists to materialistic causes. You are forced to be.

HexenHammer #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

I just saw this movie "Hairspray", and I was absolutely disgusted that such a movie can come out of a Christian Nation like America. But, I suppose when it is funded by a cabal of Scientologists and Jews that one can only expect yet another attack against real Biblical Values.

The "daughter" of a homosexual "couple" through song and dance, encourages Americans and blacks to have relationships. This culminates in the charecter played by Amanda Bynes having sexual relations with some black gutter youth. This was particularly distressing, watching this beutiful young actress throw away both her career and her respectability on for a "PC" screen roll. Surely she can never be tahen seriously as an actress again, and obviously she has blown all chance of ever attracting a respectable husband after being tainted, and on screen too!

Then there is the continual, disgusting portrayal of Christopher Walken and John Revolta as a homsexual couple, with Walken as the "butch" and Revolta as the cross dressing transexual "bitc4", all in an attempt to promote such grossly un-biblical behaviours as acceptible!

I welcome hearing the views of other clean thinking Christian folk to express their outrage at yet another blow against wholesome values.

lightwave #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

Actually the interpretation of the evidence of the old earth is what you mean.

This forum has beaten to death all of the arguments for and against each position, and it alway boils down to the interpretation of the evidence.

Science - repeatable/reproducible observations borne on active experimentation

Evolution - assertions an interpretations about the deep past using inanimate matter - largely from shaman bone-whisperers and rock-whisperers.

Evolution is so far removed from anything resembling science that it hardly bears discussion. (yawn)

If we've not been here for all these so-called billions of years, evolution has no ability to garner mental assent of any kind.

That people still buy into evolution, in any shape or form, is just a testimony to the gullibility of mankind.

Evolution is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind. Smarter people than I am have examined the same evidence and reached the same conclusion.

Scarlets79 #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

Life on other planets:- abiogenesis & evolution

A question for the evolutionists- are there life on other planets?

If you answer "yes" then surely there are only two possible ways this could happen

1. God made it
2. Abiogenesis

So for those folks who say "yes" and believe in abogenesis, I'm afraid there's no evidence at all of such a process and the probabilites of such a thing happening has been shown to be so patently absurd that atheists are now thinking life came to earth in a comet or by aliens.

That is believing something without evidence at all. No observations, no known process... it's a fantasy, but atheist evolutionists sure do belive in aliens. Yet they have the audacity to say God doesn't exist and lie that there's "no evidence".


Don't be fooled- the atheist denial of God is nothing to do with the evidence. The atheist evolutionist is quite willing to believe in things with no evidence at all- such as aliens. Anything, as long as it's not God can be taken on faith by the atheist. No hard data or observations required. Plenty of blind faith.

Next time you hear a scientist positively speculate there's life out there, in effect that scientist believies in abiogenesis, going contrary to all the research and data on this topic. Believing in things without evidence. And they're suppose to be scientists?

Mickey #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

[...and the "circular reasoning of the month" award for April goes to...]

To an evolutionist, evolution happened. There is no chance of any other possibilities.

That is as fundamental an idea as they come, and it is applied as such.

You are a fundamentalist, like it or not - and dont use the "until we find evidence of creation" scapegoat. You know that 'evidence' will not be found, because it cant. God doesn't care about leaving you scientific 'evidence' indicating His handiwork.

Have a good day fundamentalist.

Shelli #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

Homosexuals should focus on what they are good at: interior decorating with tacky stuff, acting like strangly configured women, sharing their feelings about every little thing with each other, and whining about inconsequential issues with nobody listening.

scarlets79 #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

I don't trust atheists. I really don't. In a godless world people will behave in a godless way. If someone believes in God and trusts what the Bible teaches then even if they behave bad they will apologise, seek forgiveness... there's no compulsion for atheists to do any such thing. In a godless world you only get to face up to your actions if you get caught.

I find atheists tend to be sneaks who put up a farce that they are moral but as soon as your back is turned they do what they like. Not to be trusted.

Sabra #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

*Do you support the separation of church and state?*

You mean this one....

First Amendment
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The one that says *nothing* about separation of church and state* and the mockery that our politicians have made of it?

I'm all for it.

nicodemus #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

Like I am willing to die in the place of a baby that would be aborted. If you know a young or old girl or woman that is considering an abortion I would gladly die in the baby's place. This is not an attempt to shock you, or anyone else, it is what Jesus did for me, and He said "Do what I did."

Supersport #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

[long post on 'evilutionists' and the vast conspiracy that is 'the left']
The whole point of science in the past 100 years is to deny the power of the individual. Look at any debate regarding evolution, and it's often the common denomnator. This is why evos deny the mind. They deny intelligence. They deny information. They deny mind/body. They deny chiropractic. They deny accumpunture. They deny prayers. They deny Christ. They deny everlasting life. They deny anything and everything that doesn't promote the population, government, or death.

Am #fundie #homophobia christiandiscussionforums.org

The inclination to choose homosexuality as the primary sexual lifestyle for life, as a sexual orientation is one of two things:

1) A biological disorder

2) A cultural disturbance

Either one of those causes of homosexuality point to the fact that homosexuality is a disease. Either it is from mal-development of hormones or it is from inheritence of cultural factors that encouraged the homosexuality.

It is like autism. So do autistic people have rights? No.

revdaneeidson #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

Abortionists are really into pedophilia. They pratice it and make money off the perversion to boot. Snuff films using the rape of innocent babies. Abortionist burn the babies, chop them up in litlle pieces, and in between baby killings they have a rest room break doing this: (The Abortionist eat, sleep, talk, and dream about baby pedophilia and killing 24/7

Born Wisdom Allah #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

It's simple, Energy can't be created nor destroyed so your energy can't die. Also your energy states can't die.

So when you get married that's an energy state.

When you go to work that's an energy state.

If you love your wife that feeling survives death.

If you commit suicide and your angry at the world that feeling survives death.

Fact 1: Energy doesn't die.

Fact 2. Your Energy states don't die.

Fact 3. You survive death and everything you did while in the body survives death.

Everything that you do in the body requires energy and is a unique energy state. Energy states don't die.

Reb #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

(Thread about Family Guy):


Thanks for your support, Laurie. I HATE evil and that show is EVIL.

There is something HORRIBLY wrong with a show that thinks a child molester(Herbert the 90 year old pervert) and a date rapist pervert(Quagmire) is funny. They're not.

And to add to the sickneningness is the baby, Stewie who already talks with a man's voice and has the mind of a young man rather than a baby, and this baby WANTS to be sexually molested by teenaged girls and even was sexually molested by one in one eppie.

It is a HORRIBLE evil disgusting show. IF Sodom and Gomorrah had TV, Family Guy would probably be their #1 show.

Scarlets79 #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

I like that metaphor coadie.
When they're trying to get teens into drugs or other dodgy things they make out it's harmless and that everyone does it.
Same with evo theory "it's just a theory", they say, whilst spending an immense amount of time using this "theory" to create apostates.

Supersport #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

my wife's wisdom teeth
...or lack of them.


My wife stands at 5'1 and, like most small/short people, has small features. Luckily for her she has no wisdom teeth...(probably because her head is small and has no room for them.) When she was 12, her dentist took xrays and informed her that she'd never have problems with wisdom teeth because she didn't have any to break through.

This is interesting to me, because both of her parents had their wisdom teeth taken out years ago.

Now if you're to listen and believe in ToE, you would believe that certain organisms just happen to be born with certain traits, and, if the said traits were beneficial (aka helped them breed more successfully) this is how the population evolves. And the thing is, "fit" parents are supposed to be passing on their "fit" traits to their offspring. If inheritance was not true and parents did not necessarily pass down specific traits according to whatever lucky genes they happened to possess, then ToE is thrown for a huge loop, as the offsprings' traits would be more of a biological crapshoot as opposed to a representation of their parents.

But my wife's parents both have wisdom teeth. So how and why did she end up with no wisdom teeth?

Also, everyone's heard the imaginary scenario that evos dreamed up about cheetahs, whereby faster cheetahs are more likely to breed, thereby supposedly having faster offspring...(which is how cheetahs came to be fast)..... But how does ToE -- or the laws of genetics -- stand if both parents have a physical trait, (such as speed or wisdom teeth), yet their offspring ends up not having it???

Supersport #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

[part of a much longer rant]

Now this is curious.....why would all species of frogs lay eggs, except one? Taken from "The Great Evolution Mystery" by Gordon Rattray Taylor

Then there is the puzzling frog discovered in the mountain meadows of New Guinea, which Professor Etienne Wolff described in 1971 under the rubric "The Big Problems posed by a little Frong." Unlike all other frogs, which lay eggs, Nectophrymoides occidentalis brings forth its youth alive. That implies a womb, a placenta, a yolk sac and other modifications, for which it must possess the genes. (SS: or not) Are they present in other frogs unactivated? If so, why have they been activated in this one species? On the evolutionary scale it has jumped a few million years. Similarly, there is just one viviparous earwig. Or again, only one shark in the genus Mustelus has a placenta, although they all live in an identical environment, namely coastal waters.

Speaking of frogs, if you go here: http://www.answersingenesis.org/crea...15/i2/frog.asp you'll learn of actually another frog who gives birth to live young -- but these frogs give birth through their mouths. Go figure.

And evidently there are other organisms who just simply don't fit in with their peers. This, it would seem to me, to be difficult for ToE to explain...

Trinidad and Tobago #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

I think im speaking for most of us here when I say I am tired of living in a country that promotes sin and a satanic lifestyle. I was not born a christian only to have some godless person try to instill their beliefs on me or my family. Something needs to change. If we are to win the war on terror then we need to get everyone on the right side. Why dont we see any Christification camps? Children should be taught the Truth of Christ at a young age so that they cannot grow up believing in satan...

I understand why Bush has been divinely inspired by the Lord Jesus Christ, because only he understands the perils that our country and Christian Citizens of the United States face on a daily basis. The inherit threat of the mohammedons must cease, and we must be able to live our lives without fear of being killed in the name of Satan(allah). I think we need to have Christification camps open up through the country, requiring mandatory attendance for people who chose to believe in false religions. This is a real threat we are facing and we need to take it very seriously...

supersport #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

[supersport's theory on why the majority of scientists believe global warming is a threat]

oh yea...I've often wondered if that's one of the reasons science is deathly afraid of global warming. Can you imagine if civilizations were unearthed under what used to be ice in antarctica?

Scarlets79 #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

It seems there is no evidence for atheism. No evidence of any sort- scientific or otherwise. It makes little sense for the truth to have no evidence at all to support it. Therefore atheism can't be truth. It has no supporting evidence, nothing at all.
Don't bother protesting you don't need evidence, and defining your beliefs in such a way that does not require any. Truth would have evidence to support it.

Scarlets79 #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

There are only two possibilities
1. God exists
2. God's existance is a lie

so which is it welshboy? You folks don't want to say it's a lie because then it means you have to produce evidence. So instead you hide behind words to justify why you don't need to share any evidence for your beliefs, because you HAVE NO EVIDENCE.

Scarlets79 #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

Atheism is the most vile of worldviews, and in my view the most satanic.

Whilst other religions will tend to acknowledge some form of higher authority, and encourage a way of living consistent with the higher values of such a higher authority, not so with atheists. This is why I believe atheists are the most satanic and dangerous, there are no boundaries, no moral foundation, no rule except their own.

They deny a higher authority, thus making man the authority, thus making Satan the spiritual ruler. We don't hear atheists denying Satan very often, yet they will deny God and Jesus all the time. They will blasepheme and mock Jesus but will hardly ever attack Satan and evil. They never say Satan is good, but they will say Jesus/God is evil. They can't explain evil, indeed they deny evil exists often and they will usually argue that evil is actually quite normal and part of nature. They will tend to oppose punishment for crime and ill-discipline. They will protect the rights of murderers and disregard the justice to the victim. They will tend not to oppose the millions of unborn children dying from abortion each year, indeed would want to make it easier. They will oppose the institution of marriage and its significance as cornerstone of civilised society. They lie and twist the word of God and question and reject all it says. They oppose God and Jesus but hardly spend any time attacking satanic cults, witchcraft and other evil spiritual endeavours. They seek the destruction of the church but never talk of the destruction of evil and Satan, or other evil spiritual group. They work hard at taking people away from Jesus but spend hardly any time taking people away from bad influences or satanic cults. The list goes on.

See where atheists stand on things. Ask yourself is this on Jesus's side or on Satan's side. Mostly, overwhelmingly, it's the latter.

lightwave #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

As for butchering the community, every man woman and child - yes - it's the right thing to do. The children would only get older, rise up and take revenge for their parents. Sort of a ticking time bomb. Just nip it in the bud and be done with it.

And in the end, It's a win-win. No more acts of terrorism from the Canaanites, and more parking for the camels and donkeys. What's to complain about?

I wonder that if we just wipe out Iran, think about how much free parking we would have for all of the middle east? It's a win-win.

GloryStory #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

Do you really think that you and every other heathen would turn from their sinful lifestyles if they had evidence that God exists and has a great plan for their lives? No way no how...It is like crack. Just because you tell the crack head he is better off without it, and there is proof, he isn't going to put that the rock down. He loves it, and is addicted to it, just like humans are addicted to all kinds of foul things.

What would getting evidence seriously do for you? Would you follow God just because of your evidence...

jael #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

He is uniting people behind a false image of hope. He is an expert orator who says he will solve problems but he doesn't tell us how.

He is a Judas Goat that speaks against the war in Iraq and Iran yet recommends the invasion of Pakistan.

He will run with Hilary the Great Whore upon his back as his partner.

He will speak peace, but their will be no peace.

The people on the ships will sit on the ocean and witness the middle-east burn.

A great earth-quake will strike Jerusalem destroying the Dome of the Rock. Israel will try to rebuild the Temple. Syria, Jordan, Saudi-Arabia and Kuwait and the other countries of the Middle-east will attack Israel.

All Armeggedon will break loose.

I suggest the following motto for Obama.

A vote for Obama will be a vote for the Second Coming of Christ!

Trinidad and Tobago #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

Amen Carico...there is no reasoning with people who refuse to accept His Truth. I've seen many angry atheists in my time..most of them have admitted to experimentation with perversions like drug abuse homosexuality witchcraft and trying to dye their skin..

You can offer them the Truth and they will deny it, they want to remain willfully ignorant they want to run from Him. Remember...they have made the jump from believing a God-->no god...on top of believing fairy tails and pseudoscientific theories..

History has shown the true danger of being absent of God..the nazis were the greatest atheistic threat modern society has ever faced. We saw what darwinism was capable of..but ultimately good will prevail. They can run and deny, but only they wil have to answer to their chosen savior...Satan...

CommonSinner #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

Yes, Jesus is coming soon. What does "soon" mean?

I keep changing my mind from 5 to 30 years.

When I hear of the Jews are making plans for building the third temple, I get excited. I believe in a pre-tribulation rapture. So, if I am hear on Earth with the third temple, something has to be wrong with my theories.[...]

When I think about the whole world seeing the return of Jesus, my definition of "soon" moves to 30 years or more. My idea is that the whole world needs to be plugged into Fox news to know when to look for Jesus coming in the sky. I think that we are about 30 years away from every around the world getting cable.

Trinidad and Tobago #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

Mike there cannot be any debate here, because to "debate" about a God is to ignore A) His written word, B) directly observable phenomina here on earth and C) all of human history going back to the origins of this planet nearly 6000 years ago. To deny these things is a denial of reality, and I honestly feel almost as ridiculous as a child denying babies come from the stork.

Trinidad and Tobago #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

[Are you serious ? You mean Galilei kept saying that the Earth is the center of the universe and was punished by the Church for that ?]

He was prisoned not because of his ideas--but because he was an agent of the Illuminati. He was activitly involved in malicious attempts to undermind the community, and was punished for it. His personal beliefs that the earth was the center of the universe was proven false by the church.

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