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Peter MacDonald: There is no way to know if you are saved then according to this. I was as saved as you could get. I knew I had sinned and felt the conviction. I repented. I felt forgiven and saved. I knew I was headed to Heaven. There are always going to be controversy in the church about this kind of stuff because there is no real answer. One man believes the Bible is interpreted a certain way, and the other believes the complete opposite. And both are listening to God. People have their untouchable zone, that is, however convincing the argument is they won't be persuaded because it reaches into a "no fly zone" in their brain. Think of a box with a key. You were told to never ever open the box no matter what. You can play with anything else in the room but DO NOT turn that key and explore the box! If you are successful in instilling fear in that person, you can keep whatever lies in the box locked away safely. The problem with Christians is their no fly zones are logical thinking. They are told "The Bible is without any flaws, it's a perfect book" So you can't think about anything in the Bible in a logical fashion. If it says it, it's true. Here's how the controversy starts: Everyone has presuppositions. You can't help it. So you try to make the Bible say what you want by what you feel. That's all it really is. Most people are genuine people who want to find the truth and are really sincere. I don't doubt that one bit. I was once that person. Just trying to make sense of it. Let me challenge you today, open the box and explore it. Don't be afraid to let go of your religion! If it's really true you don't have anything to worry about, right? You'll find yourself right back where you were. But for the sake of your sanity, rethink religon.

Ray Comfort: Peter MacDonald. Did you know the Lord? If you say you did, then what we maintain is true. If you didn't, then you were a false convert who faked it...for how many years?

It is well known that gold is something with which people adorn and beautify themselves, but a man is not meant to do this, i.e., he is not a person who may be perfected by means of adding something, rather a man is perfect in and of himself, because of his manhood, so he has no need to adorn himself for some one else that he may like, unlike women. One of the strange things that we see nowadays is many young men adorning themselves by wearing gold chains and the like, and they even put makeup on their faces. This is contrary to the fitrah (sound human nature) and to the masculinity and resolve which should be the characteristics of men. Hence you will not find any wise and serious man doing that, rather they are either who are not straight or those who are lacking in character, time-wasters who are trying to fill the gaps in their character or fill their time by doing that.
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