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Diane Sellner #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

Read my lips.

He is a demon from the pit of hell, serving satan, a marxist, socialist baby killer and I would die before I would ever respect a baby killer.

How much more do I have to say to make it clear. I believe the man could be the antiChrist...........I do not respect will never respect a man that would vote for partial birth abortion or leaving a baby to die...

I will go a step further, I have NO respect for any person voting for him, even if it were my own mother voting for him......

Am #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

Supersport, your name suits you, you really are a super sport. You push out great OPs time and time again, and stand strong even though you get one stars over and over and endure the weak ad hominem replies. But your reward is that this is how we see you, and you make great contributions. They only give you one stars and ad hominems because you pound Darwinism to the ground.

Diane S. #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

They have gone beyond prodeathers, the lefties are becoming more like the Nazi's every day. They vote for a candidate that wants to add to the 50 million babies already slaughtered by removing any limit of age in murdering their own children even up to nine months. Someone needs to do a picture of the facts, the face of Obama the baby killer with his angry wife by his side, he holds the scizzors to stab the babies in the head, she holds the suction machine to remove the brains of the innocent baby, they both proudly announce our policies of "partial birth abortion back in business in America with NO restrictions" and underneath written his wife Michelle saying, "Now I am finally so proud of my country, we are more free now to murder babies when we feel like it and YOUR tax dollars are paying for it.

Am #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

I believe that Lucifer will try to take over the world through the liberals, but subverting everyone to the social conditioning of socialism. Eradicating religion, God, morals, and ethics, and calling humans animals are part of the agenda.

scarlets79 #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

Hunting. Hunting is something humans do. Humans go out and hunt animals. Usually to eat them. Sometimes just for pleasure. Sometimes to cut down on vermin. Sometimes for a fur coat.

The problem with evolutionists is that they think humans are animals. Therefore this permits the hunting of human beings in addition to the animals.

This may explain why societies based on atheism (hence evolution) like soviet union, and societies built on evolution like nazi germany, kill so many people.

Metacrock #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

all the little children so broken up because their big god science has been dashed. O don't worry, super math man Hans will save you.

a bunch of moronic little demoniac whose brains got ****ed in their asses.

you are a bunch of demonic little pieces of ****.


you think science will save you from the wrath of God. you despize anyone who isn't funcked like you are. you have no hope and know you have no hope so you despize anyone who does.

You peices of **** do do not matter. You aer fools you are stupid. you can't think. It doesn't hurt my life one whit what you say or thing. you idiots. you will burn in hell if there's a hell or case to exist because you are too stupid to believe the obvious.

either way non of you will achieve a thing, you die in futility like you live in futility. I will enjoy the source of all love and comfort foreve and I will myself silly everytime I think what fools you are.

turin #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

*Equally as dangerous is a Theocracy. To use two examples. First, can you say 'Iran?' Nuff said.*

I have see the Iran argument before. Most Christians that I have had this discussion with believe that is not a fair benchmark because islam is a fasle religion, and so... what can you expect? But a christian government, with chritian principles and laws would be different I have been assured.

mom2two #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

I'm happily married to an unbeliever, who totally accepts the role my belief has in our marriage and my parenting. He believes in the 'morality' behind parenting. What my question is, being conservative in my belief that a wife is submissive to a husband, what should I do when his parenting decisions conflict with what I believe? Specifically, sex ed teaching in 8th grade health class. I really don't believe God intended for a secular agency to teach sexual beliefs and mores, but my husband really thinks my son should sit through the class. If my husband was a believer, I would submit, even while I disagreed, knowing that it rested between him and God the results. Should I have the same attitude with him as a non-believer and talk to my son afterwards (or maybe ask the youth pastor)?

supersport #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

So all you people believe that if you put your hand in front of your face that the image of the hand you are seeing is actually in your skull (behind your eyes) and not right in front of you?...the image of your hand is in your brain, not outside your brain (where it actually is)? You've got to be kidding me. Is there any other reason needed why nobody trusts science anymore? what a bunch of quacks.

RKBentley #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

This is more argument from ignorance. We don’t know the exact mechanisms God (via Noah) used to care for the animals. Perhaps God made the animals hibernate as some have suggested. Of course the animals were probably adolescent and needed less food/room than a full grown adult. And we STILL don’t know exactly how many animals we’re talking about.

fred1 #fundie #wingnut christiandiscussionforums.org

Most of the liberals you run into, especially the far left wingers have satan as their master. He has a tremendous plan for this country through Barrack Obama. It is being derailed by a woman who has given her heart to his great enemy Jesus Christ. The reason you are seeing such outlandish behavior on the part of Palin's enemies is simply the stirring up of the demons which control them. It is a demonic rage.

The contempt they are showing for her values is simply the contempt satan has for Christian values.

T. L. Glen #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

[In response to 'How could all the animals fit on Noah's Ark?]

The animals went on the ark with Noah, there genes were inside Noahs body. After the flood, Noah had many children, and they went out and slowly after generations they evolved into different animals.

paper hat #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

Convenience is the best word to describe a woman's decision making on whether to get an abortion. After all, the whole process of getting an abortion is convenient in much the same way that it's convenient to order a pizza and have it delivered to your door.

Spiderman #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

You're the one that can't grasp the idea that sometimes people annoy other people with silly behavior, and we don't have a constitutional right to act like a goofball.

If you think you're being mistreated because you talk with a lisp, use certain catch-phrases, and dress a certain way...it might be true. That's a fact of life. Sexual preference has nothing to do with it whatsoever--it shouldn't even come into play in a job interview. If you're being discriminated against over your sexual preference, it's your own fault. If you want to be successful in life and accomplish certain goals, just don't do it.


Having said that, there are plenty of job choices that would seem to benefit that sort of behavior. Should I sue because I can't get a job as a fashion designer because they suspect me as liking women?

Doobie #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

(On discussing homosexuals being hired in workplace.)

Then no one knows and all at the hiring game is fair.

Done then.

Wasn't that simple?
Wasn't that special?

Don't priss-talk the flaming-walk or prance-walk the lispy-talk.
Keep wrists firm in tone always.
Shake hands like a man and not a limp dead fish.
Make mental note to keep the queerness outta the voice mannerisms.
Never out dress your employer!

Rest assured......

A drag queen will never get past the job qualifications and interview at Hooters.

1TrueDisciple #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

[i agree that your interpretation of the gospel is a fairytale.
who said that the ascension is a metaphor?]

I think I just figured out the mindset that creates the atheist: everything you don't personally witness is a fairy tale!

That leads me to my newly found disbelief in history. History is a fairy tale and no one currently alive can prove that anything happened in the distant past. I am now an ahistorian. Maybe ahistory could become a future discipline for study in the schools; imagine how interesting it would be to teach kids that nothing happened in the ancient past.

OhDaughterOfZio #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

Beating isn't creative enough for me. I really want my children to stay on their toes. When my youngest was 6 (she's 7 now, so not long ago) she dumped her entire plate of dinner over the balcony of our apartment onto the grass below.

So I made her her favorite snack! An awesome bowl of popcorn..JUST FOR HER! I let her take a bite. And then guided her over to the balcony, and proceeded to dump the entire bowl. She looked at me like I'd just cleaned her clock. She was then instructed to go pick up all of her dinner, and every single one of the 60486 popcorns on the ground below and then do her dishes.

Lesson, learned.

Matt Slick #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

[Life does not begin at conception]

The sperm is already alive.
The egg is already alive.

When they unite, life CONTINUES.

We don't have life from non life; hence, life does not begin at conception.

Now, it has human dna; therefore, its NATURE is human.

If it is not human, then what is it?

If it is not human, then when does it become human?

If it becomes human at some point, what constituted a change in nature?

If its nature changed from non human to human, what is the differentiation that defines it as human?

Think. Let's suppose there is a person who was in a bad car accident, who is in a coma, lost his arms and legs, is on a breathing machine, cannot communicate, has a catheter, and must be cared for because he cannot sustain his own life.

Is that person human? Of course he is. Humanness is more than arms and legs, more than mere consciousness, more than merely breathing. There is something more, something different, something 'human' that defines its nature.

This nature is possessed by the old people.
This nature is possessed by middle aged people.
This nature is possessed by adults.
This nature is possessed by adolescents.
This nature is possessed by children.
This nature is possessed by babies.
This nature is possessed by that which lives in the womb of the mother.

If what is alive in the womb is NOT human, then it must be okay to transfer it to the womb of a ***** (female dog). There shouldn't be any problem, because its nature is not human.

But, that'd be stupid, wrong, immoral.

Well, pro deathers, those who advocate destroying the helpless life in the womb of the mother, those who promote killing the innocent, tells us what the nature of the life in the womb is at say.... 6 weeks. If it isn't human, then tell us what it IS, not what it is NOT!

If you can't, then step out of the argument and repent of your sin against God for your murderous position.

Matt Slick #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

[Pro deathers]

I don't like the term pro choice. It is so steril, so innocent sounding, so misleading.

Actually, the term should be pro deathers... those who are for the death of the life in the womb. They, apparently, think it is okay to impose their morals on others (the unborn) and then hypocritically accuse pro-life people of doing the same thing to women.

pro deathers redefine life, baby, choice, to their preferences in order to try and control the conversation. Now thanks, I don't play that game.

Let's say it how it is.

Pro deathers
womb scrapers
baby haters

imflammatory? You betcha. Don't like it? Oh well.

Sometimes to get through a thick skull and hard heart you have to use the proper terminology, the kind that isn't stripped of meaning, the kind that doesn't make it easy to close your eyes and look the other way.

I'm against killing the baby for convenience sake.

Matt Slick #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

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the pro deathers here have no problem killing innocent babies in the womb, but whine about facing an adult on the radio.

they have no problem justifying killing innocent unborn babies, but try and rationalize their cowardice at facing an adult on the radio.

Cowards!

Come on "men"..... come on you "big strong 'men'".

Why hide behind the convenience of unholy laws, of sterile definitions, and the internet discussion boards. Too afraid to face me in public, live?

Yeah... cowards.

Cowards beat up on the weak and helpless but run when it comes to facing someone who can fight.

Where are the men????

The pro deather cowards here have no problem getting women pregnant and then putting THEM through the emotional trauma of destroying the life withing their bodies. They enjoy their lusts and kill to cover it up.

They aren't men. They are males.

Men protect the innocent, stand up for the weak, and fight for righteousness.

So, I'm a man. What are you?
fight me here... Faith and Reason Radio M-F, 6-7 PM, MST, 208 377 3790

jma037 #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

Fools and heretics! God is BEYOND logic. Logic is a construct of a finite mind. God can make 1+1=2. He can also make 1+1=3.
Infinity is a plaything for God. Yet you can't even comprehend it. Do not try to understand God with your pitiful logic.

kkll4ever #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

To my embarrassment and shame, I confess that I've seen the caveman movie where the female had nothing on the top. It was presented like it was no big deal as it was just the culture of the caveman era. No I don't believe in evolution, but do believe in the process of evolution. It appear that the cavemen movie was more a picture of the future.

Mike #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

Pro-lifers will win. I'm convinced of it. As long as we hold to our values against the world’s dehumanizing trends we will counter this darkening culture with light and eventually prevail.

Here are a few reasons for my hope:

1) Pro-aborts can't call themselves what they are. They call themselves pro-choice. It's a not-so-subtle nomenclature shift meant to appeal to freedom-loving Americans. But in the end, I believe, if your rallying cry is a lie your supporters are going to figure it out after a while. They're not pro-choice. They're pro-abortion. But they can't admit to that. If you have to lie about what you're for, you're going to lose...eventually.

2) Improvements in science continues to enhance our knowledge of what's going on in the womb, putting pro-aborts on the side of being "anti-science." When Roe first became the law of the land pro-aborts argued that the baby wasn't a baby at all but just a clump of cells. Most people know that's not true anymore. People have seen 3-D Ultrasounds. People have seen the photo of the baby reaching out during an in-utero surgery. The numbers of the ignorant are dwindling and that aids our cause.

3) There are no great pro-choice speeches and there never will be any. You can't move people by speaking eloquently of the right to have consequence-less sex with someone you don't love. Think back - how many great speeches in the American pantheon have there been which include the words "rape and incest." I'm thinking it's a pretty low number. "Give me freedom or give me rape and incest" just doesn't work right. Even the great orator of our time Barack Obama could only come up with, "I don't want them punished with a baby" in support of abortion. Pro-lifers on the other hand speak about those things which move us -life, rights and God. In the end, our superior speechifying will win out.

4) We pro-lifers have more babies. It's simple. Those that don't believe in killing babies in the womb typically end up having more babies. Pro-lifers are more...prolific. Go to church some Sunday and you'll hear a chorus of babies attempting to drown out the sermon. You don't bring babies to a NARAL meeting. It's considered rude. In the end, demographics win.

I truly believe we'll win. We have to. We must. And we must never accept that some must die for convenience or that some must be selected to die for the greater good of society. And we must not accept that killing someone is a mercy to them because their life would be difficult due to illness. Until every life is legally esteemed as sacred we should never rest and never give up.

As an example of the shifting tide, ABC News (7/29) covered a heartwarming story of two unborn babies with a terrible problem. The twins were diagnosed with "Twin-to-Twin Transfusion Syndrome," a deadly complication that would likely kill both unborn children. The children were saved by a remarkable in utero surgery.

Almost as remarkable as the surgery, however, is the the fact the ABC decided to do a story which so clearly illustrates the humanity of the unborn. Add to that, this introduction by Charlie Gibson.

We have “Closer Look,” tonight, at some of the most awe-inspiring surgery that modern medicine has to offer. It is not an operation performed on a heart or a brain, as delicate as those procedures might be. This surgery is done on the tiniest, most fragile of patients imaginable. Babies yet to be born. ABC’s John McKenzie on a rare procedure done inside the womb. Not just on one fetus, but two.
Were that not enough, the piece included this exchange between John McKenzie and Dr. Kenneth Moise of the Texas Children's Hospital.

MCKENZIE: Using a kind of miniature telescope, doctors enter Kim’s amniotic sack. And there they are, the boys. Their perfectly formed feet and hands.

MOISE: You can see them moving sometimes they’ll reach up and grab the scope.

MCKENZIE: The fetus will grab the scope?

MOISE We’ve had it actually pull on the scope.
As we remember from the famous Michael Clancy photo, nothing illustrates the humanity of the unborn better than their little hands grasping just as newborns do.

Gammafan94 #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

Thank you, Lord Jesus, that abstinence-only is taught at my public school!

1. I am given the only 100% effective way to keep myself free of AIDS and impregnating someone else. Condoms have an...11% failure rate, I believe? That's about 100,000 failures for every 1,000,000 condom uses!
2. I am WAY to young to be thinking about that kind of a relationship. I'm just a child, people!
3. I don't have to go through the embarrassment of my teacher showing us...those things...like that crazed teacher in the movie Juno..

christdependent #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

Actually, I retired from our professional accounting practice a couple years ago, 'cause I came to understand that my husband is to be the breadwinner and it was sending a poor Christian message for me to continue to be a partner in the practice, when I have other work to do in the Kingdom.

Scarlets79 #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

Where's my spare sexual organ?

I don't understand why I have only one sexual organ. What if it stopped working? Then I wouldn't be able to breed, it's such a crucial organ. So why has evolution not given a man two penises as this would increase survival and procreation chances, thanks.
We have two eyes, if one goes at least you have the other one. Women have two breasts, we have two ears, two legs, two arms... why not two sexual organs?

scarlets79 #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

Some militant atheists think that if they get their own way and destroy Christianity in their nations that somehow they will end up living in a secular utopia, one mass orgy where everyone gets along so wonderfully in peace and love, smoking pot, free love, fulfilling every selfish desire, no pain or sorrow for anyone.

The reality is rather different. If you destroy Christianity (you won't, but let's assume) then all you will achieve is to create a vaccum. Due to relative morality and a liberal justice system (a joke) with no punishments it will quickly turn into such an anarchich cesspit that order and moral authority will need to be restored. With Christianity destroyed where will people look- Islam.

You'll wish you hadn't burnt all the Bibles then, I can assure you.

supersport #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

[supersport explains the Luria-Delbruck experiment]

the problem for you people is that genomes work as a whole....the population works as a single unit, on which there is no selection.....there is a colony-wide communication going on that evos can't see and don't want to see, and the unfit members of the community are self-destructing for the benefit of the whole, not being murdered by selection, as evos would like.

supersport #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

why? because we all have adaptive genomes. Your theory says that if there were a million people in the population, one lucky person would sport, by chance, antibiotic resistance. In reality, if each person took a few rounds of antibiotics, they would ALL develop resistance. No evolution; just individual adaptation.

Scarlets79 #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

Worship is normal

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Billions in human history have believed in God or gods, supernatural powers, or have worshipped something or other.

Funny, that. Why would so many people do those things. We don't see animals do those things. Why would so many people do those things if there wasn't anything in it.

[This includes people who understand and are working in science and other intellectual pursuits so lack of intellect or understanding of science is not an explanation.]
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coadie #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

valid question buddy.

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Originally Posted by vibise
But you argue that Hitler was motivated by Darwin's theory. How have YOU been able to read his mind?

It is true that what people say and what they do don't necessarily match and it is wiser to pay attention to what they do. In Hitler's case, he was photographed attending church services and meeting with church officials.

(And I actually got a speeding ticket today. I got a ticket, but I talked myself out of the maximum penulty.)

Kinda like tracing DNA. HITLER named Jews as dogs and inferior in race and "sellected them " for extinction. He appplied Darwins heories.

"Photographed in church" Photographed in a bank can mean customer, robber or employee. What a waste of logic buddy. Try harder on Hitler. I was on church video before I was born again.

coadie #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

Most evoas don't know Jefferson was in Europe when much of this was written. They don't study the early American documents.


Quote:
Thomas Jefferson

In the thick of party conflict in 1800, Thomas Jefferson wrote in a private letter, "I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man."

That includes atheism and evolutionism which were spread by tyrannical leaders like Hitler, Stalin etc.

coadie #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

Atheist immorality.

An atheist can't speak to sexual sins. That is not a natturailst concept. Swaggart had snipers threats, bomb threats and all manner of satanic attack. It was sexual sin that made his fall. Atheism says sex is for the most powerful males of a species.

Swaggart has repented of his sin. Have you????

Jewpiter #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

The Bible is unchallenged, and original.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by A Hermit
So every story that refers to a struggle between good and evil is inspired by God?

That puts Star Wars on an equal footing with the Bible...

No, every story ever told is inspired by God.
Is there any story that is not struggle between good and evil ?
Well Dart Wader is Jesus put in some other dimensions.
In Star Wars, He was raised from death, and continue to rule where ever
Dart Wader rules.
In Christianity, Jesus is also "alive" and rule lives of 2.5 bill. people

love

C.i.A

supersport #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

Evo/Atheist hypocrisy

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I find it so very interesting how atheists are so sure of themselves that there is no God, and that all lifeforms somehow appeared and evolved randomly, without any sort of intelligence to either start or fuel the process. And even more interesting is how they seem so utterly confident in this illogical position.

Of course, this mindset is ludicrous...and here's why: Evos/atheists (Yes, they're one in the same on this forum) don't believe the universe was created by God, who by definition is a creator and thus capapble of creating........so essentially, what they don't believe in is an entity capable of creating existence.

So if that is the case, my question is this: if God (a capable entity) isn't responsible for existence, what is?....something not capable? And how are you so sure of yourself when you don't really know what this non-capable thing is?

Paradoxically, natural selection is claimed to be a creative entity (Darwin and his minions claim it's responsible for speciation and evolution as a whole), yet it's never been tested scientifically or proven to produce a single thing or adapt even one population.

So what we have is a small sect of people (10% of the population) who believe whole-heartedly via blind faith in a biological mechanism that has never been seen or proven to create or adapt anything, yet at the same time, they are so absolutely sure of themselves that no entity exists who is capable of creating existence.

Does anyone else see the hypocrisy and religiousness of this?

Scarlets79 #fundie christiandiscussionforums.org

Atheists are second-rate rebels

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Atheists think they are rebels but they're second-rate.
The real rebels are Christians.

Christians go against the grain of this world. And always will.
It's easy getting carried away by the wind. Not so easy to take a stand and walk against it.

Atheists are not rebels, more like cowards. Rebelling against the Christianity that you were brought up with from your loving parents and community is not big or clever.

If you want to be a real rebel, follow Christ. Then you can rebel against the evil in this world. If you love God then you must hate evil, as God hates evil.

Standing up against Christians is cowardly. You know the Christians will not go as low as you. And you take advantage of this. Even judging Christians by the Bible yet you're too cowardly to accept how fallen you are compared to that standard.

If you want to be tough guys, start standing up for the unborn. Start standing up for morals. Start standing up for decency. Stand up against sin. By doing so you will face deep hostility, hatred and abuse from the enemies of Christ. Something you don't get from Christians. The atheist rebels are wrapped in cotton wool, too afraid to take on evil.

Jesus was a rebel for righteousess. That's what a real rebel is. Any fool can just go along with the fashions and sins in this world. It's easy to go along with sin, try standing up against sin and you'll realise its power over your life. Truth is- you just ain't tough enough to stand against it.

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