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Bro. Randy #fundie teens-4-christ.org

The schools are now providing a means of abortion
Yep, that's what I said! It is a well known fact that a certain combination of the pills in the package will cause a first trimester abortion. BUT, many people do not realize that the pill, taken as it is prescribed, can also cause an abortion! Here's how it works: The first line of defense is supposed to prevent the pregnancy. But there is a second line of defense. If there is a conception (in other words, a baby is on the way), the second line makes the body so that it will not nurture the new baby, thus causing an abortion.

imasaved1(bro Randy) #fundie teens-4-christ.org

That is not what I was saying here. The rapist certainly is responsible for his actions. However, if the girl involved has dressed immodestly, she shares that responsibility.

A few months ago, when I went to bed, I left some cookies out. When we got up the next morning, there were two smiling kids and cookie crumbs in living room. they were wrong for eating the cookies, and touching what was not theirs to touch, but I was also wrong for giving them a strong temptation. I should have removed the temptation from them. Likewise, a girl who dresses immodestly is setting up a temptation for men. Some men may be able to contain themselves and their thoughts. Other men may not be as strong. Their thoughts run away with them, and they lust after the flesh they see, but they are able to contain it at that. But men who are weaker still may not even be able to stop there. These men may go further and act on their desires. If a man commits rape, has he done wrong? Absolutely! If the woman tempted him, is she wrong as well? Sure is! This flies in the face of the sensibilities we have all been taught because we have believed a lie. We have believed that we can do whatever we want and there are no consequences to our sins. This is a lie.

imasaved!(Bro Randy) #fundie teens-4-christ.org

If your goal is promoting views against the Word of God (or stereotypes the Fundamentalist, as you call it), then you are welcome to leave. This site exists to give teens a safe place to fellowship, to teach them about the Word of God. It is not a forum for people to come in express their non-Biblical views.

God is not the author of confusion. Since God has called and ordained me to this ministry, there is no way you could be called to 'have a God-given duty to educate people' against us.

Finally, your 'legitimate sources' are in conflict with the Word of God. Since they are in conflict with the Word of God, they are inaccurate and unacceptable. The Word of God is our final authority for all matters of faith and practice.

Yes, now that you have clearly stated your goals, I have disabled your account.

Bluegrass Girl #fundie teens-4-christ.org

[On the case of a male to female transsexual being ejected from a womans' bathroom and someone saying "IMO We shouldn't take on a holier than thou appearance"]

So, first of all you're saying we should look like the world. Don't try to say you're not, because it couldn't be clearer. Blend in and don't try to look like a "Christian" because it may make others uncomfortable and we certainly don't want the world thinking that what we have (JESUS) is any better than what they have.
Also, you are defending the "person" who was in the restroom. I didn't see her, but I do know enough about our perverted society to know that there are a lot of confused sick people walking around wishing they were of the opposite sex. I have seen them with my own eyes and I have heard about the disgusting lifestyle they lead. Maybe this person wasn't one of them, but the point is, the business has the authority to do what they want. They obviously have "Standards" in what they allow in their establishment. This reminds me of the woman from Hooters who was recently told she couldn't fly on American Airlines because of the sleezy way she was dressed. They stated it was a family airline and they wouldn't allow her clothed the way she was. They also have a "standard". I am tired of society never wanting to offend someone, yet I am offended everytime I go to the mall by the anti-God t-shirts and music. Maybe the anti-God crowd needs to start dressing like Christians so I won't be offended.

ImaSaved1 (Brother Randy) #fundie teens-4-christ.org

There is a couple of teens here around my house. They claim to be Christians, to be saved, but they haven't a clue. Once, one of them was telling me about this wonderful so-called Christian concert he went to. When I tried to explain to him how that was not Christian, he revolted! How dare I judge him. After all, "...people were getting saved there!" he exclaimed. Yet, just a few days ago, I saw this kid in his girlfriend's FRONT YARD. She was sitting on the steps and he was a few feet away from her. There were some others in the yard, and he pulls his pants down! Is that how a Christian acts? Well, according to he NCV (N-Correct Version), since there are no standards, sure, GO FOR IT!

ImaSaved1 #fundie teens-4-christ.org

Ok, let's calm down a bit!

There is a difference between a lady who's body style is more athletic (and thus less feminine) than a 'girly-girl' (please pardon my descriptions) and a female who is trying to appear as masculine as possible. In this case, it was a lesbian who, in all likelihood, wants to be a man and who was mistaken, at a close distance (face-to-face), for a man. If she was mistaken for a man, it is also likely that she had facial hair. This is a sign that she quite possibly was taking hormones to give her the appearance of a man. This is clearly wrong. She is trying to be something other than what God designed her to be. There are girls out there who are more athletic and who develop slightly differently. These girls should be especially careful in what they do and how they develop their bodies so as to avoid the masculine appearance. The way a lady dresses and adorns herself, regardless of her body style, should be completely feminine so that she leaves no doubt that she is a lady.

By the way, from my point of view, there is more to being a lady than just being born as a female. A lady is defined by the way she dresses and adorns herself. A lady is defined by the way she talks, the way she presents herself through the day. A lady is also defined by her countenance: she will have a fine testimony and a sweet spirit about her. She will be a joy to be around. Finally, a lady is worthy of respect. The person who was mistaken for a man was no lady, would not have gotten my respect.

ImaSaved1, Bluegrass Girl #fundie teens-4-christ.org

[NEW YORK — A woman filed a civil rights lawsuit against a popular Greenwich Village neighborhood restaurant Tuesday, claiming a bouncer chased her out of the women's bathroom because she looked too masculine.

Khadijah Farmer, who was at the Caliente Cab Company after New York's gay pride parade last June, said the bouncer ran into the bathroom, pounded on the stall door and demanded that she leave. He told her a customer complained a man was in the women's room.

"I told him I was a woman, and I tried to show him my I.D.," Farmer said at a news conference. "He refused to look at it. I was extremely uncomfortable and quite humiliated."]

ImaSaved1:
Hmm, perhaps if ladies looked like ladies and men like men there would not be a problem.

Bluegrass Girl:
That's exactly right! Why should this even be an issue? Obviously it was very unclear as to what her gender was.

2b_likeHim #fundie teens-4-christ.org

Ok, I see what your saying, Not all Jews will be saved, those who reject Jesus will die and go to hell just like gentiles. As far as after the rapture, depending on which way you believe. The Jews who end up recieving the mark of the beast, whether because of the great delusion of 1 Thess. Make more sense?

Mrs.Debbie #fundie teens-4-christ.org


(I thought that evolution was like when, say, if there were rabbits in a snowy place, the lighter ones are more camoflaged, and so they dont get eaten, so the darker ones die out, and it goes on and on until you get white rabbits. Like survival of the fittest?

Am I wrong about that?}


That's just the food chain - the way God set it up.

Mrs. Debbie #fundie teens-4-christ.org

["... This could only happen through evolution, ... This means that there must've been a common ancestor that had 24 pairs of chromosomes and that this animal branched into two distinct species."]

By saying this you are denying the omnipotence of God......His unlimited power. God created the heaven and the earth and all that dwell therein. He chose for the chromosomes to be placed as they are within man and within monkeys. Many scientists have studied themselves out of a belief in God. They have laid aside the natural knowledge of God for the un-natural knowledge of the world and its humanistic systems. Had man continued in the knowledge of God the theory of evolution would not exist.

Bluegrass Girl #fundie teens-4-christ.org

I just wanted to see what everyone's thought was on this. Recently, we have had to switch churches due to some changes and compromising in our church. When we started looking for a new church, we realized that they were only about 4 in the whole state of Missouri that was still a solid church. We then started looking at other church website's around the coutry that are/were solid, independent baptist churches, it seemed as if they had changed. We would look at the photo galleries, and see mixed swimming, youth activites with teens dressed immodestly, and even contemporary concerts. What is happening?

We even looked at a so-called indpendent baptist church in Texas where they recently had a contemporary artist singing in their church! The pastor of this church is very well known, and it was a big dissapointment to me. The pastor is still preaching in large conferences at good churches today.
It seems that even colleges are changing by adding water parks and surf teams to their campus. Are we at Bible college to serve God and learn about the Bible or are we here to get away from mom and dad and have some fun? It appears that volleyball teams now wear shorts to play in, whereas 10 years ago they were still in cullotes, and I don't mean loose fitting shorts. I recently heard Bro. Tony Hutson preach "Old Time Religion" and it was such a blessing to me. He mentioned that churches would still be prospering and souls being saved, if we still had the old time religion. I guess they think the old time religion is just too "old" for this generation.
Maybe it's just me, but it sure seems like it's happening around the country.

Mrs. Debbie #fundie teens-4-christ.org

I have two children. My daughter stands firm on her faith because she has taken what we taught her and has made it her own. My son, on the other hand, did not make those biblical teachings his own. He goes to church...reads his Bible....but his hair is longer now, his music has changed, his soon-to-be wife (Oct 5) wears pants... He has swallowed the lie of the devil that it is ok to be more like the world.

Ashley Brianne #fundie teens-4-christ.org

This is a great way of spreading the gospel also...
We get people who call us or text us all the time, that had the wrong number.. so what we've always done, (me and my family) we say Sorry u havet he wrong # but the right person, and they say "huh?" and we say, im glad you called.. if you died right now, do u know for sure you are going to heaven? yea, we have some that hang up, or say no thanks, but we have seen allot accept Jesus as their Saviour. I mean what are they gonna do?? After all they are the one who called you! Works Great!!!!! I like what Isaiah said, "isn't it wonderful that God can take a mistake and make it into somethin wonderful?" And that is so true! Just think of the story of Joseph, "you meant it for evil, but God meant it for good!" i love that story!!!!
Just thought i would share.

ImaSaved1 (Brother Randy) #fundie teens-4-christ.org

I was taught secular humanism, and almost every other religion under the sun. However, Christ is not allowed in our public schools.

I was exposed to pornography, open sexual acts, drugs, alcohol, etc.

Fundamentalism was ridiculed by the staff of my high school.

I was taught, as a matter of fact, the lies of evolution in many classes - not just biology.

I was forced to read near pornographic 'novels' and study Greek mythology in literature classes

Etc, etc.

In short, I was exposed to everthing except Christ in my state run high school.

RR

ImaSaved1 #fundie teens-4-christ.org

This is true. There was light before the sun, moon and stars existed.

As for the light from stars which are millions or billions of light-years away, I don't know how God did it, but then I do not know how he can count the hairs on everyone's head (though, looking at my head, that task is getting easier (IMG:style_emoticons/default/detective2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) ). My limited imagination can only imagine that he created the light in place.

ImaSaved1 #fundie teens-4-christ.org

You have to admit that completely destroying two cities or creating everything that exists in six days is a pretty significant feat.

Sure, God could have done either in an instant, but instead, I think He wanted to show us, to a degree, what He could do. He could have made it so that Sodom and Gomorrah never existed, and no one knew anything of it. But instead, he allowed them the free will to choose their sin, then he destroyed them for their sin. By doing this, God demonstrated His sovereignty and His power. Ultimately, God got the glory out of it.

Mrs. Kellie #fundie teens-4-christ.org

It doesn't get any plainer than..."The evening and the morning was the first day"

If the sun was out for a few billion years, and then the night was a few billion years....it would be kinda hard to sustain life of any kind that way....huh?(IMG:http://www.teens-4-christ.org/board/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

God created the world in 6 literal days....evening and the morning constituted each day. There is no way around that if you believe that the Bible is the inherrant word of God. You can't try to incorporate a theory without changing what God said....and changing what God says is heresy.


Mrs. Kellie

katyanne #fundie teens-4-christ.org

God says what He means and He means what He says. If there had been a gap of time, God would have told us in the Bible. The problem here is that people want to believe man rather than God. Man who wasn't there and didn't make anything as opposed to God who was there and did make it.

Katy-Anne

JMorrow #fundie teens-4-christ.org

Here are some men and women who mocked God :


John Lennon (Singer):
Some years before, during his interview with an American Magazine, he said: "Christianity will end, it will disappear.. I do not have to argue about that. I am certain.

Jesus was ok, but his subjects were too simple, Today we are more famous than Him" (1966).

Lennon, after saying that the Beatles were more famous than Jesus Christ, was shot six times.

Imasaved1 (Bro Randy) #fundie teens-4-christ.org

[on demonic possession]

It certainly does happen today. In fact, I think it is much more common than we realize it is. I believe the majority of people who are in mental instutions are under some kind of demonic opressions.

I also believe those who abuse druge submit themselves to demonic opression.

However - the saved cannot be indwelled by a demon. That space is filled by the Holy Spirit!

RR

ImaSaved1 #fundie teens-4-christ.org

What in the world is wrong in America?

People have been waiting in lines for the new Harry Potter book. British subject, Joanne K Rowling, is now reported to be worth more than the Queen of England. One newlywed couple went straight from their wedding alter, not to their honeymoon, but to the midnight release of this book at a bookstore.
Why is the world so enamored at this book? I believe the answer is simple: we are in a satanic society. It is certain that we live in a country founded by Christians, but it is equally certain we have traveled far from our Christian origins in this country. We are surrounded by parents who are allowing their children to read the exploits of Harry Potter and dabble in witchcraft.

I know new Bibles are being published every day, but my Bible still says witchcraft is a sin!

Bro. Randy #fundie teens-4-christ.org

[Reply to a poster say that he/she didn't believe the Noah's Ark story wasn't literal]

The universal flood and the Ark of Noah cause problems for you because you deny the Word of God and choose not to exercise faith in God.

Why does 2+2=4? Who knows. It just does. How did God assemble all the animals and feed them? Well, God knows, but then again, He's God. There are a number of possible explanations, but listing them would be pure speculation. The simple fact is that you have chosen to not believe in the written account of history.

ImaSaved1 #fundie teens-4-christ.org

I can imagine some things we see today which could be examples of believers who are being 'tried' because of their sin. Sexually transmitted diseases? These 'trials' can can easily cause a wayward believer to realize their error and turn back to God!

ImaSaved1 #fundie teens-4-christ.org

Sure, a teen living for Christ will be different than the world. God even calls us a "peculiar people, zealous of good works" (Titus 2:14). But that is expected. We ARE to be different. We're children of the King! Royalty shouldn't act like common peasants!

Bro. Randy #fundie teens-4-christ.org

[A game invented by IFBaptistgirl called "Name that Cult"]
Usually, I don't get into the games, but this one's gonna be fun!

Hmmm sits in a box telling secrets to someone who can't see them (or forgive them) .... Catholics?

Perhaps the Catholic Priest needs to come out of the closet

Imasaved1 #fundie teens-4-christ.org

"Basically, the theory is that some 15-30 billion years ago, there was nothing. Then, all of a sudden, BANG. All that is exploded into existance from nothing.

Since then, the universe has been on a steady course of random evolution. According to the theory, this random course has come to the point where we are now.

Even in the most basic explanation (as I have given here) it is flawed. One of the fundamental laws of physics is that matter can neither be created nor destroyed. This whole theory assumes that matter spontaneously created itself.

On the other hand, God is the author of the laws of Physics. He can do miracles, and He gave us the explanition that he created the universe."

Bro Randy #fundie teens-4-christ.org

Today, there is no faithfulness to God and country, the only faithfulness is to self. I believe this is a key reason why we were defeated in Viet Nam and why, if we are not careful, we may be defeated in the war against Muslim terrorists.

IFBaptistgirl #fundie teens-4-christ.org

You're right. public schools are trying to rewrite history. History has always been a favorite subject of mine, but it wasn't until I started Bible college that I learned more about the true American history, and you better believe the finger prints of God were all over it.

Mrs. Debbie #fundie teens-4-christ.org

I Timothy 2:9 - "In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array."

The word "apparel" here is from the Greek word "katastole" which means "a long flowing garment. " So, this verse tells ladies to wear a long, flowing garment. That is what modest is, long and flowing. Pants are quite definitely NOT long and flowing. Pants do not flow. I have never yet seen a pair of pants that flow. Therefore, even if "long," they do not qualify as a long flowing garment. And since they are not a long flowing garment, they are not a katastole. Katastole is translated modest. Therefore, if a modest garment is a long flowing garment, and pants do not flow, pants are not modest.

ImaSaved1 #fundie teens-4-christ.org

(In response to a question about Harry Potter)

Exo 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

God takes a very dim view on witchcraft, to say the least. I believe any form of witchcraft is purely satanic and should be completely avoided by anyone.

HP is openly promoting witchcraft. It's a no-brainer. It just should not be allowed, permitted or tolerated.

Honestly, I believe parents who allow this satanic mess will be held accountable before God.

Paul #fundie teens-4-christ.org

I didn't realize the Anabaptists had access to manuscripts. And I do know that there are no denominations in the Bible, but you must agree: If the apostles were to follow a modern denomination, it would be the Fundamental Baptists.

Bro Randy #fundie teens-4-christ.org

" When you are ready to date, and you choose the right date -- a person you could marry -- you need to ensure that you eliminate all possibilities of temptation. [...] this also means that there should be no physical contact between a dating couple. More than this, the couple should never be alone together. Solitude is a breeding ground for sin. Satan tricks us into believing that no one will ever know about the sin, so we indulge it. Of course, God knows"

ImaSaved1 #fundie teens-4-christ.org

While it is true that the cathoic church takes a strong public stand against abortion, how many infant children of nuns, fathered by so called men of God, are buried under catholic churches? Thousands? Tens of thousands? Recently, I read an article describing how that when nun becomes pregnant (from illicit activity with a preist), she is allowed to deliver, then the child is allowed to die. Their are many churches in Europe which have hundreds of corpses of infants under them.

IFBaptistGirl #fundie teens-4-christ.org

Here's what I see as a big issue: A minority of people (Sodemites, and yes, that's what they are according to the Bible, hate crime law or not!) are trying to slowly take away the freedoms we've had for several hundred years. Whether people want to admitt it or not, these people have an agenda, and unfortunatly they find people willing to help them in our government it seems.
I haven't looked into this bill too deeply, but my pastor did read it from the pulpit and had a petition available for us to sign (and I signed it buddy, you better believe it!) and what he read gave me cause to worry. Even if, as you say, this bill doesn't prohibit us from condeming homosexuality, or preaching against it, That time is pressing ever closer, and that means we need to be on guard. (The Bible warns us to be vigilent against the devil because he's constantly looking to devour us...and the devil is DEFINATLY behind the Sodomite's agenda!)
This wicked sin NEEDS to be preached on with fervor in our day because it is running rampant. We must do what we can to protect our right to have preachers preach the Word without fear of imprisonment. Our forefathers fought for that, and we need to have enough guts to stand up for our freedom before it gets taken away from us.

IFBaptistGirl #fundie teens-4-christ.org

I would say many (most) Catholics are lost. Mainly because they have a works salvation....confession, communion, their form of baptisim, the sacraments, mass, eucharist....you CAN NOT be saved by works, or it's no longer grace.
IF a Catholic gets saved, I don't believe they'll stay Catholic for much longer. The Holy Spirit will not leave them alone after salvation. I believe some of them are deceived...let me rephrase that, most of them are deceived into believing a false gospel that Paul warns about.

There is NO other English Bible. The King James stands alone. There are many translations that have been done since our beloved KJB, but I prefer to call those perversions...because they pervert the pure Word of God. The Catholic Bible is one of those many perversions. Not only does it take out major doctrine we hold dear, but it adds entire non canonical books...the Appocrypha and that nonsense. And it doesn't have them there soley for historical reasons as the first additions of the King James did.

No wonder the nuns got in a tizy. They don't have the truth and don't know how to respond to someone who does. They've been lied to, and taught that lie all their lives.

I read in one of your posts that you are Baptist in a Catholic school. Be careful. Stand for the truth and don't let their teachings get under your skin. At the worst they are heretics and at the best they are deceived. Hold fast the KJV and it's truths as your sole authority and you should be just fine.

Mrs. Debbie #fundie teens-4-christ.org

We do not hate the people, Rhajay. God loves the people and wants all to come to Him in repentance and faith. It is the Roman Catholic, Islam, and all other cult teachings which are very anti-Bible that we are against. The only truth is found in God's Word - not in the Vatican or Koran or Buddha or Joseph Smith or other man-made thing or any other person.

We stand on the solid foundation of God's Word, the King James Bible...on Jesus Christ, Who is the Way, the Truth and the Life - the only Redeemer - the only One Who rose from the dead and lives on high with His Father.

We are not bigoted. We have a final authority upon which we stand. We are confident in the fact that we have the Truth.... and desire to see all come to that Truth as we have.

Bro. Randy #fundie teens-4-christ.org

The difference between FSM and creation as taught by the Word of God is clear: FSM is a lie conceived by a man who denies the creator where the Biblical account of Creation is truth. Might I add, it is a truth that continues to be proven to be true every day.

By the way, I personally believe religion, in any form, should not be taught by the state: whether it be the truth of Christianity or the errors of Islam, Mormonism, Buddhism, Catholicism, Evolutionism and Secular Humanism, to name a few. I believe the parents should have a CLEAR CHOICE in how they educate their children. I also believe the state should either pay for the education of all students, according to the parents wishes, or none of the students. I know this may mean that the state would pay for some students to be educated in error, but many would have the option to learn the truth. As it is now, in order for children to be taught the truth, their parents must pay for the education of their children twice.

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