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BreadAlone #fundie foru.ms

God is indeed a just God..who punishes sin in its entirety.

If the baby doesn't have Jesus' holy, precious blood attoning for its sins, then it's damned to hell.

Now, if by the power of the Holy Spirit, the eternal soul of that baby hears the holy gospel, perhaps as the mother is walking by a church even, and believes the message, it would go to heaven.

Jesus loves little children, threatening those that would lead them astray that it would be better for them to be tossed into the sea with a millstone around their necks. So I'd like to think that it's possible for an unborn baby to hear the gospel message with it's soul and be saved.

Zaac #fundie foru.ms

[But if we are created by God, and given common sense I feel it is a crime not to use it.]

Eve, it's not an issue of using common sense. It's an issue of going to Christ FIRST. Common sense will have you doing all sorts of things that Christ says to not do.

jream #fundie foru.ms

Please Dont be gay, I saw a man at walmart today and he had the gay voice; which is a spirit that homosexuals receive because they are possessed by a spirit. So don't do it or you will get really messed up and confused. Dont give the devil a foothold.

NerdMan925 #fundie foru.ms

The media is overly protective of the people with the false religion; so protective, that they will bash Christianity and extol the cults. They do this because they are blind to the truth. Satan uses people whom are blind to the truth to bend and twist the truth about Christ. Some of these people are so blind that they don't even realize their being "Anti-God" or Satanic by protecting false religions.

ShieldOFaith #fundie foru.ms

Weak.

The only killing that we are talking about is GOD hurling you into the lake of fire, which is the "Second Death".

If you look at it, it would be the most TERRIFYING thing ever to realize that you are being chucked into the Lake of Fire!!! The realization at that point when you are 100% clear and aware that you are being hurled into a place with NO ESCAPE and it is filled with fire! Wham! Now your are there, and screaming because of the pain, and you are 100% in realization that you can't do anything to stop this from going on. Your in sheer TERROR. Knowing that this is it. There is no forgiveness or Mercy that is going to be shown to you; EVER!!! THE TIME OF MERCY IS DONE, AND YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NONE COMING TO YOU!!! You can't beg or ask for anything from GOD. He has thrown you completely away like trash and are in a fire dump. You are nothing but eternal burning filth, worthy of only GOD'S contempt!!!! That is absolutely TERRIFYING!

Only weeping and gnashing of teeth!!!

Yea, that is terror.

NerdMan925 #conspiracy foru.ms

The media is overly protective of the people with the false religion; so protective, that they will bash Christianity and extol the cults. They do this because they are blind to the truth. Satan uses people whom are blind to the truth to bend and twist the truth about Christ. Some of these people are so blind that they don't even realize their being "Anti-God" or Satanic by protecting false religions.

WarEagle #fundie foru.ms

[Answers are in regards to the location of Heaven]

[We have satellites, people have been (and are) up there). We have really really really really powerful telescopes.]
I see. So, these satellites, people and telescopes have been to the end of the Universe?

[How can you possibly think it is up there? What makes you think God thinks it is up there?]

Because God said so.

ShieldOfFaith #fundie foru.ms

[If you can't convert people by persuading them that Christianity has any benefits over other religions and philosophies, you can always convert them by scaring the pants off them!]

Man, we have the greatest benefit of all; the benefit of NOT BEING LIT ON FIRE FOR ALL ETERNITY!!!

Inan3 #fundie foru.ms

[Regarding the science behind radiometric dating techniques]

I don't really know about any of this and just because you have cited a few things does not mean that I know any more. I would have to know all the perameters involved. Then I could only make a guess but I do know that something is amuck in scienceland because there is no way that the earth is 4.5 billion years old, maybe 3.78 but certainly not 4.5. (face-palm smiley)

AV1611VET #fundie foru.ms

Oh --- and no --- I'm not planning on answering MrGoodBytes' question. He's trying to draw me into a scientific discussion that I can't back with Scripture.

Besides --- I don't know the answer anyway --- it's not documented in the Bible.

SheildOfFaith #fundie foru.ms

[Ummm...homosexuality is a political tool to achieve what, exactly?]

To destroy the moral fiber of this nation.

They are being used as a political tool to destroy the Judeo-Christian morals that this country was founded on, and replace these morals with Atheistic secular humanism, and the morals thereof.

Simple. Not rocket science.

IronManMatt #fundie foru.ms

[[Response to; "Perfect Loving Omni God Vs Ordering Genocide and Murder

Why would an all-powerful, loving, and perfect Creator ask humans to commit genocide and murder so often? For one thing, can't he do his own dirty work?"]]

If God says to do it, then it is good to do. And as far as God doing His own work, ever heard of Noah and the flood? Have you ever read Revelations?

SpiritualAntiseptic #fundie foru.ms

<< Regarding an omnibenevolent God and hell >>

God could put conditions on His love and force people into Heaven, or conditionally love people and destroy them.

God's unconditional love extends even in allowing a person to suffer for all eternity.

Shizzle #fundie foru.ms

Look, any guy could become gay if he wanted to, i can easily imagine myself being like "oh what a tight ass, what a fine body, i want to blah blah blah". But any logical guy can realize that the guy and the girl are meant for each other, and you dont have to be insecure over whether or not your gay because its caused by demons.

MandM #fundie foru.ms

I appreciate those who have made points regarding the difference between Darwinism and Social Darwinism.

While in theory there may be a difference, in reality they seem to always go together hand in hand. Wherever Darwinism shows up, Social Darwinism is sure to follow.

Darwin himself and his family were massively into "social Darwinism".......just watch the film in the original post.

As for those on this thread who question whether the New World Order exists:

I don't even know what to say. I find it hard to believe that anyone is still so ignorant.

Every single one of the "top tier" candidates for both parties is a member of an organization that is directly tied to the New World Order, and I would bet most of the atheists here can't even name that organization.

It is the same organization that every secretary of state since the 50s has belonged to. If you can't name the organization, then don't even think that you even know the first thing about what is really going on in the world.

Aria #fundie foru.ms

(On wy Wikis are evil)

Wikis can change daily, hourly, and even by the second, depending on who is viewing the wiki and what their real agenda is.

Is it an idea spawned by secular humanists who believe in the insane idea of toleration, which is not a Christian virtue but a plank of infernal Masonry gratefully accepted by Screwtape and his hordes.

WarEagle #fundie foru.ms

First of all, the false god of Islam is not the same God as the God of the Bible.

Second, given how often the Founding Fathers wrote and spoke of Christianity, I don't see how there would be any doubt as to their intentions.

shinbits #fundie foru.ms

If God ceaced to exist, the universe would be random with no supreme being making sure everything is running smoothly. That means we'd probably crash into one of the hundreds of galaxies that the Milky Way is clustered with at any second, especially given in unfathomable magnitude of the gravity of just one galaxy.

Chaos would reign. We'd be dead. That's how our lives would change.

Riddick #fundie foru.ms

Pierre Curie, there was a television special on him, as well as his wife, Marie Curie.

Pierre was walking out the laboratory building, and stepped into the street. Unfortunately, his mind was still in the lab, and he stepped in front of a horse carriage. The accident crushed his skull and Pierre Curie died from it.

Scientist, Nobel Prize winner in science. Forgot to check for the horse drawn carriage that blindsided him. So simple, yet he overlooked it. What else are our scientists missing?

servant222 #fundie foru.ms

One of the biggest problems with pro-abortionists is that they are in denial about the fact that life begins at conception. To try and counter this misconception, ask pro-choicers the following question:

Should parents have the right to abort a foetus based purely on its sex?

Most, especially strong feminists, will indignently say "of course not; that's outrageous!"

But, hey, pro-choice is pro-choice- you either support it or you don't- so if a mother decides to abort purely on the basis of gender, then what business is that of anyone else?

Another question to ask is:

Should parents have the right to discard their foetus a day before it is due to be born?

Again, the answer is usually an outrageous "Of course not!!".

And my answer is similar: abortion is not murder ONLY if you believe that life begins at birth (that is, not at conception). So whether a foetus is one second old or 9 months minus a day old isn't relevant if you believe in pro-choice.

The Chinese have it right: the birthday of a person is measured by when they were conceived, not by when they were born.

ShieldOFaith #fundie foru.ms

There is no such thing as a transsexual. They are just homosexuals, taking drugs and hormones, and wearing womens (or for the females trying to look like men: mens cloths) cloths.

Homosexuality if sinful and wicked. Feminism is divisive and unnecessary.

Gipper #fundie #homophobia foru.ms

[The OP is about lying. Is it okay to lie, if you are lying about homosexuals?]

God forgives liars. God hates homosexuals. If it prevents people from becoming homosexual, or criminalizes the act, then yes. Whatever it takes to get these people to see God.

Carey #fundie foru.ms

Germs are something humans can manipulate ever hear of germ warfare??

Demons are beings far superior to any Human in knowlege.So Obviously would be able to create weapons superior to humans weapons and use for their purposes.

So germ/viral possession or infection can actually be the same as
demonic possession. There are different degrees of this as there are to anything .

Floatingaxe #fundie foru.ms

I pay no heed to fables. My Creator has written me a letter of love. I read that and heed Him. He in turn gives me love, joy, peace, patience, knowldege, wisdom and He blesses me with success and prosperity and health. When I have trials, I can rely on Him to teach me, protect me, arm me, fight for me, and rescue me.

I can't ask for more!

BigChrisFilm #fundie foru.ms

The problem is, in America, we have no idea what Martyrdom even is. We are spoiled. People die every day for Christ in other countries, and they face those very same situations you just posed to me. Please re think your stance. You should be willing, 100%, in ALL situations to lay down your life for Christ.

ShieldOFaith #fundie #homophobia foru.ms

Homosexuality is a vile SIN!

GOD HAS SAID SO.

There is no lie here. Just a homosexual political machine that Hates God and wants to destroy His Word. Notice that I didn't say individual homosexuals. Did you catch that?! So now you can't say that I hate homosexuals! If you do I will only laugh at your stupidity.

So since the homosexual political machine is vile and evil and against the Word of God, it should be condemned. That is what us Christians do.

I personally laugh when the heathen label us as filled with hate. It only shows how far they will go to spread lies against the people of God.

No matter. The God of Abraham sees all things and will judge all those who come against His people (not good to touch the apple of His eye.).

It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. His wrath is beyond anything that any human being can imagine.

Just something to think about.

Carey #fundie foru.ms

(This shows how science works... new data can lead to a re-examination of hypothesizes or even accepted theories. Too bad Creationism is not held to the same standard.. hmmm?)

Creationism does hold itself to this standard even though Creationits know beyond a shadow of a doubt after every re-examination of any hypothesis the outcome will always eventually prove the Bible 100 % correct and any hypothesis that woould appear to disprove anything in the Bible will be found to be in error.

Creation science is not for the creationist it is for the decieved.

The reason there are soooo many well sourced creationist sites is because they want to help lead the poor decieved and mislead to the truth.

Floatingaxe #fundie foru.ms

[The weird part is when one part of a passage is considered literal but another section a few verses later is considered metaphor. For instance, God created the universe in a literal six days, but the whole firmament/dome of the sky with water above it business was all metaphor.]

What metaphor? There was a dome.

AV1611VET #fundie foru.ms

["The Epic of Gilgamesh was written somewhere between 2750 and 2500 BC (or BCE, whichever you prefer). what was over 6000 years ago, beyond the date you state the Earth was created ex nihilo. This means that your global flood occurred before the Earth was created. Do you really want to use this argument in favor of a global flood?"]


No I don't --- I use the Bible to "argue" in favor of a global flood.

If the Epic of Gilgamesh was written somewhere between 2750 and 2500 BC, I suggest either the dates, or the dating method, be rechecked.

ShieldOFaith #fundie foru.ms

[I could reverse that question, why is the norm rejected by Christians?

I am not raging against your God, heck I don't even believe in him. And I am doing better after giving up my belief in him. Same morals as before, no gult, and more thought into my actions.

Heck, everyone could do with more thought into their actions, not just me.]

I don't believe a word you just said, Paulos. If you truly do not believe in God at all, you'd be anywhere but here. You'd be committing crimes and running wild in the street. You're not. You're here fighting with me. Why?

You still know deep down inside that He is there. All the blathering and puffing out your chest means nothing. You know He is there and you are raging.

Stop the raging and start the Praising!

SOLI DEO GLORIA.

FolatingAxe #fundie foru.ms

Genesis writers knew nothing of evolution because it didn't happen. Dinosaurs existed, but it was before man's time and not necessary to know about in God's economy. We are inquisitive enough to have discovered the extinct creation, which has served us well in our search for knowledge, and the development of our scientific bent.

The bible cannot be trumped. All science does is verify it, and changes from minute to minute. God's Word remains fixed and true.

wnwall #fundie foru.ms

[...if something isn't in the bible, does that make it untrue?]

Of course not. There are many things the Bible makes no mention of that are true. You will search the Bible in vain to find what the square root of 7 is, but 7 has a square root.

If, however, something contradicts the Bible then it is not true.

john crawford #fundie foru.ms

(john crawford wants to give H. erectus bones a proper burial)

Me? Destroy evidence? I have never advocated destroying any evidence. If you are referring to some old Homo erectus fossils, they're not evidence of anything other than some poor soul's demise which should be given a proper and decent burial even if the bones are cremated.

john crawford #fundie foru.ms

[My wife happens to be Arabic and they derive their history from Ishmael, son of Abraham. Of course your response will be that I am making this up as well. Do you tell that to anyone who says something you don't want to hear?]

Why do you assume what my response will be, and that I don't want to hear about your wife's descent from Abraham? I just asked the other poster how he knew that his wife was also descended from Abraham.

I'm very happy to hear from anyone whose family members are also ancestrally related to the ancestors of Jesus Christ and his disciples.

As far as I can tell, the only way we can know for sure that we are ancestrally descended from, and biologically related to, your wife's Arabic ancestors is by assuming that traditionally accepted written accounts of Arabic and Semitic history are true. If we accept the ancestral fact that Arabs and Jews are descended from Abraham, then we must also accept the historical fact that 175 year old Abraham was descended from 950 year old Noah, and that Noah's written account of the flood is historical data.

Otherwise, everything mankind believes, says or writes about human nature and natural history may be regarded as mythological.

john crawford #fundie foru.ms

Old Man Noah, the Neanderthal didn't need to interbreed with Modern Man because Modern Man is only what Noah's Neanderthal descendents started to look like after first becoming Heidelberg Man due to a decreasing life span during and after the Ice Age.

Try to think out of the usual evolutionist time warp and their classification mentality of our human ancestors as different and separate 'species.'

john crawford #fundie foru.ms

(Noah was a Neanderthal, apparently)

[ Status quo theorizes that all humans descended from hominids who happened to live in Africa. You claim that only Africans descended from these hominds and that whites descended from European Neanderthals.]

I don't even use the word "hominid" when referring to people.

[But weren't you recently decrying the theory that all humans emerged from African hominids as "racist"?]

Yes. It is racist to call African people hominids.

[ And now you yourself are supporting a theory which gives all humans as descending from Mediterranean Neanderthals. Doesn't that make you racist as well?]

How? Neanderthals were real people who descended from Noah. They certainly weren't African hominids who shared a common ancestry with African monkeys and apes like neo-Darwinist race theorists would say of their ancestors.

Floatingaxe #fundie foru.ms

[Posted by Floatingaxe]
"The bible is both inerrant and literally true. I'm not selective, I know God. I'm not the one with questions, doubts and agendas."

[Later Posted by Floatingaxe]
"No I haven't ever said it, because I know that there are some portions that aren't literally true. There are analogies and metaphorical passages that aren't literal. There is poetry also, that we cannot take literally. The bible is a library with all types of books in it."

whiterider #fundie foru.ms

The Harry Potter series has done more to spur an interest into Witchcraft into yourg people, more than "rock music, Video games, comic books, cartoons, or any evil device" combined. Usually the most dangerous product, is the one that destroys a generation while making us feel as if it is harmless.

JK Rowling uses Neumerology to enhance the witchcraft of her release dates, and she makes other devices that are connected to witchcraft. She is writing from her own experiences, and the practice of true witchcraft in her writing has made her rich and famous.

But to those who are undiscerning, the smooth good feelings that you get from endulging in her fantasy work is nothing more than spirits enticing you further into giving satan your children all in the pretense of having a little fun. Nothing is as it appears when you are dealing with matters such as this. Enjoy it while you can, because judgment is just around the corner. Maybe then, you will be shaken from your stupor.

ShieldOFaith #fundie foru.ms

[Response to a user who posted the biblical passage of Deuteronomy 22:23-29 (the passage which commands a rape victim to marry her rapist)]

Morning, this is beautiful and holy. It is the Word of God.

He is taking care of this women who would now be soiled and never get a husband. See? Beautiful and holy.

Keep em coming! The Word of God is righteous and lovely.

SOLI DEO GLORIA.

Floatingaxe #fundie foru.ms

[Have you been to many natural history museums? Have you read much about paleontology or other paleo studies? How about geology? do you sincerely believe that the millions of chemists, physicists, astronomers, geologists, naturalists, biologists et al who conduct independent, empirical scientific research, whose results all support the idea of big bang cosmology and evolution driven biodiversity, are somehow part of a conspiracy with the sole purpose of undermining God?]


I know what these people think. Yes, it is a conspiracy to undermine God's Word. You see, these independent studies are just that: independent of the truth of the Word of God. A clear agenda to discover some truth other than what we have been given already. There is no other truth, and no one has been able to disprove Creation.

Floatingaxe #fundie foru.ms

[Yet you are happy to disregard the work of scholars presenting evidence of a mistranslation of the word "arsenokroites"... which tends to indicate you are a little less than even minded when it comes to your prior understandings]

Mountain of a molehill. We all know the translation is being altered by the homosexual agenda. We all know what the Word means and what God really thinks about the acts of homosexuality, whether they are performed in some pagan ritualistic manner, or mimicked by those who do it just for fun.

MattMarriott #fundie foru.ms

Space Travel Hoax - The ultimate goal exposed worldwide first by Matt Marriott

Never did any Soviet Union or US "spacecraft" leave the orbit around the Earth.
So what was the ultimate goal of the pyramid of lies known as Space Travel? (1)

The ultimate goal of the Space Travel Hoax lies beyond the feasibility agenda, i.e. the conquest of the Universe, as proof of godlike illuminati.
The ultimate goal is nothing but a consequence of the BIG LIE technique, the base for illuminati control.
The ultimate goal, now revealed worldwide first, was to produce "evidence" (2) to cover up the hoax at the base of the pyramid of lies:
_ _ _ A _
L _ _ _ I N G

Notes
(1) Which means that whether the ISS/MIR/Skylab is a hoax or not is not relevant for this discussion, as Space Travel here implies beyond the orbit around the Earth.
(2) Soviet Union's Luna 1 "spacecraft" hoax, early 1959, marks the begin of the relevant stage for implementing the ultimate goal.
It did not take long before the first "evidence" supporting the ultimate goal was produced, for the Moon, October 1959, using the Luna 3 "spacecraft".
The process was completed 20 years later, with the the first "evidence" for Jupiter, using the NASA Voyager 1 "spacecraft", January 1979.

Floatingaxe #fundie foru.ms

[Response to a user who said: "Exactly as I said earlier: If reality and the bible disagree, it is reality that's got it wrong.

You must live in a very strange universe."]

Yes, if you want to call conjecture reality! The bible has never nor will it ever be found in error.

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