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Sp8der #transphobia reddit.com

I have not seen convincing evidence that parenting can alter gender identity. That is, I've never seen evidence that parenting can induce big-D Dysphoria (as opposed to gender-atypical behavior) in a neurologically-typical child.

Conversely, real-world attempts to raise kids as the opposite of their natal gender have consistently failed (e.g., David Reimer, who was raised as a girl after a botched circumcision but transitioned back after puberty).

I just want to pose these two against each other for a bit.

What's the probability that the recent impassioned rise in ideologically-motivated "gender neutral parenting", which as far as I can tell simply manifests as an attempt to push opposite-gender toys, behaviours and so on onto the child, produces the feeling of unease that later gets the child referred to the gender clinic by going against their actual gender identity?

Because gender neutral parenting seems like a colossal clusterfuck to me, in that:

A; I believe that many of the people who do it are doing it for woke points and not because it's in the interests of the child, and many of them have a "desired outcome" of having a gender non-conforming child.

B; In conjunction with the above, "failure" (as in not being adequately gender neutral and pushing the child into their same gender role) and "success but not getting the result you want" (being adequately gender neutral but a male child choosing to be male anyway, as they will 99%+ of the time) look exactly the same and are pretty indistinguishable, leading parents who actively desire a GNC child to assume they've failed and push opposite-gender things on the child harder and harder.

Basically if anywhere south of 99% of "gender neutral parented" children end up not being GNC it's a pretty clear indication that there's some room for pushing from parents there... and from there, given the political climate, I'm not uncomfortable saying that those signs can be (mis-)interpreted as needing to start funneling the child down the trans pipeline.

The thing around future-gay children getting shoved down that pipeline is pretty alarming too, since if I was born today I'd probably be one of them.

I absolutely used to reject any notion of being a man. I hated when anyone would call me "young man" or similar. I had long hair and painted my nails. I even literally said "I don't want to be a man" a lot.

But all this was just my faulty definition of what a "man" is. To me, back then, "man" meant unshaven, beer gut having, lager-swilling, football-watching, stained white vest-wearing, eating crisps on the sofa in your underwear and scratching your arse. Homer Simpson, Onslow, Jim Royle. To someone who idolised David Bowie and his style, this was offensively repulsive and I was determined to never be a "man".

But, of course, David Bowie was a man. So are lots of stylish and outrageously fashionable and even somewhat feminine people. The problem was with me all along, and when I learned to let go of that definition and accept that I get to define what being a man is, I felt a lot better.

And so, to circle back, when I see Extremely Online trans advocates like the egg_irl lot shouting that any stereotypically female behaviour or preferences are proof positive that you need to be shoved down the trans pipeline with nary a second thought, I get angry because that could've been me. Those types of trans crusaders reinforce every gender stereotype they claim to want to break down. They decide to transition and immediately plump for, say, the girliest clothes, names, mannerisms, and everything else. Which just leads back to more kids developing faulty definitions like I did and going through the same thing, only now with a chorus crowd of people wanting to change their gender for them.

At the same time the Absolute Gender Neutrality At Any Cost brigade also annoy me, because certain traits DO cluster in certain populations. But they're not EXCLUSIVE to them, nor are they mandatory to be part of those populations. I don't understand why it's not okay to acknowledge "a high percentage of men will X, Y, Z" while also saying "but it's fine if you don't, there's no wrong way to be a man, this is just an observed trend".

That kind of meandered a lot but there's not many spaces where I can express this kind of thing and not get shouted down to oblivion -- which is also part of the problem.

Sp8der #transphobia reddit.com

I don't fully understand the point Gender Critical(aka TERFs in some circles) seem to be making, but one aspect which has stuck with me is the idea of abolishing gender completely. Biological sex is a real thing and our society, for better or for worse, establishes strict and starkly different expectations depending on one's sex. This is how I understand gender. The idea of "abolishing" gender would try and get rid of this assumed default correlation altogether.

But the correlation is there. The only thing wrong with it is the enforcement. Noticing that certain traits seems to cluster to each sex should not be the same as saying that those sexes MUST exhibit those traits. We should exist in a state of "typically, you'll exhibit these traits. Not all of them, and sometimes not even many of them. And that's fine too. They're trends, not rules."

"Abolishing gender" is too close to attempting to studiously ignore reality for me. These things do correlate a lot of the time, and to deny that is just wilful ignorance. But we should be more open to the idea that this pattern is not absolute and there will be exceptions.

Having the fluidity within society to just become an effeminate man seems at least to me to be far more desirable than getting stuck in this rubric where a full binary transformation is the only solution.

TRAs impede this as well. Look up how many of their are virulently, viciously against femboys and traps. Part of this is, I suspect, simple jealousy. But some of it is ideological, leading to the "egg" rhetoric or the "pinkpill" stuff, where every feminine male is a trans female in denial and they must be shown the light and made to take the hormones.

sp8der #transphobia reddit.com

Having a penis means you are a man. There is no such thing as a female penis.

Question, how do you define those who have XX chromosomes but have a penis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XX_male_syndrome#:~:text=XX%20male%20syndrome%2C%20also%20known,that%20can%20vary%20among%20cases.
Are they a man or are they a

Per the name of the page you're linking, the answer would seem to be male.

Regardless, extreme edge cases don't and shouldn't define broad rules. Over-specificity will render otherwise useful concepts useless through inflation.

"Cats have four legs" is a true species-level statement even given the existence of mutated or amputee cats.

There's also a tendency to fall into the univariate fallacy when discussing this. That because one magic vector that neatly cleaves the groups cannot be found, the groups themselves are invalid. This is patently false, traits can be clustered.

If an object matches 5/6 characteristics of Item A and 1/6 of Item B, which is it more likely to be? Which of the two boxes do you put it in when sorting?

Ok what about a woman who through surgery to attach a penis. Is this person a man or a woman?

More difficult. It depends on the rest of the cluster of traits, doesn't it? While that's a strong indicator in one direction, whether it's enough to balance out the rest has to be taken as an individual case.

I agree, there should be some flex in what determines who is a man and who is a woman, you seem to be against this.

Some flex maybe, not 100% flex. But my point was more that categories are rarely ever neat but they must be coherent, at the very least. Simply identifying as X is not enough to become X. And defining X as "ABC", without regard to exceptions, is more broadly useful to people everyday than strictly defining X as "ABC, except when D, but also ACE, unless F, or ABD in which case look at GH in conjuction with AB to determine if C."

I agree yet you seem so focussed on saying that this rule doesn't apply to trans people.

I suppose the corollary is that, as I said above, I don't consider all traits to have equal "weight" when determining what category to put someone in.

So having a penis might be 100 "weight" towards considering someone a man. Having XY chromosomes might be 50 "weight". Having a beard might be 5 or 10.

Identifying as a male registers as a 1, if anything.

This is all just numbers pulled from my arse, I've never sat down and quantified how much I consider each trait to be indicative. It's just my attempt to illustrate why someone who spends a lot of time money and effort on passing is an easier "sell" for me than someone like Yaniv, who does not, and why I do not consider the two equivalent.

But even then, anyone who manages to "cross categories" will still have an asterisk next to their designation, as you used as an example above, an "XX male" or "trans male" and I don't think that's inherently unfair. You can be male, subcategory trans, and that can be relevant information sometimes. Especially in medicine, or dating, or, as in the original example, other "intimate" or delicate/vulnerable situations.

I think it's important that trans people just make their peace with that, because a little compromise will go a long way to reconciliation, as opposed to attempting to "inflict" themselves on the unwilling put of a sense of moral indignation.


You personally think that the presence of a penis is more of an indicator than the xx or xy chromosome, I could find other people that disagree and say it is the other way around.

But again... "XX male". it's not Female Penis Syndrome.

Rather than imposing views why not let said people decide for themselves?

Because we don't let people self-identify as doctors, or as engineers. We take umbrage when someone who is noticeably not decides to call themselves clever or beautiful or talented. People's self identification means very little to us in quite a lot of ways.

So what someone identifies themselves as normally has little bearing on how others identify them, and this is right and proper. We are allowed to disagree.

I don't think this is an excuse to deny said person which sex/gender they are.

The argument they make is that if I don't want to date/sleep with them because they have a vagina, and that viscerally repulses me, that I don't "really" see them as a man.

Which, I mean, is right, but how do you reconcile that?


I mean I think both sides could be polite, no-one has to date or sleep with anyone they don't like.

I'm pretty sure that would get you excoriated by most trans activists. (Maybe not trans people, but activists.)

qanon1029 #sexist reddit.com

I would like to raise a glass to the based ricecel who ate that first bat and started a pandemic that ended in women losing their jobs, being sent home from school, and being stuck inside their houses for months on end. Well done buddy.

[image of Pepe the frog in a tuxedo giving a toast with a wine glass]

bueos #racist #sexist reddit.com

I want my ex-bully to knock my girlfriend up

I'm also concerned that the baby wont look black. My bully is very black but my girlfriend is also very white with very fair features. I've noticed that mixed kids of fair white women often look very white. I would enjoy weird stares from white people and the laughing and disrespect from black people. So I'd like our kid to be clearly part black. The same for the future 4 or 5 more kids I hope we have.

My bully caught carona before she decided to contact him. That was a few months ago and he still seems to be fine. It's a serious virus though and I can't consent to her having sex with him or even meeting him until he's been fine for another month and repeatedly tests negative from multiple clinics and multiple ways to test. My girlfriend cried a bit because she was so excited to do this. I've been comforting her as much as I can physically and emotionally and reminding her that it's going to happen soon enough. I told her I'd try to make it up to her while she waits for him.

This is really upsetting for both of us.

We're considering finding another black man. She's considering a guy she showed me a video of, fucking a poor southern guys fiancee because he used the n word. He really rubs it in talking crap while he does her from behind. I feel sorry for the guy because the black guy disrespected the guys privacy and family. He was talking about how much he loves his little family and wanting to get married and have another kid.

The black man has 3 girlfriends now..

Does anyone know this guy? He has some powerful, aggressive genes and my girlfriend wants him. If you know any of his accounts or channels, please let me know.

LMAO. A cuck trying to be intimidating, by going through my post history no less. You're cute.

I love how the people who are rightfully disturbed by your post you get mad at, and the sickos encouraging you to let your gf cheat on you and have you raise another man's child you welcome with open arms and friendliness.

You do realize you're extremely mentally ill, right...? Right...??

I'm not trying to be intimidating at all. I didn't need to go through your post history. All I had to do was glance at it. lol

Okay, but answer the question. Do you realize how sick you are? You need therapy. Your gf is going to dump you btw as well if you don't fix your brain.

There are benefits to my girlfriend bearing my bullies kids too. Mixed kids are healthier and have less abnormalities than Caucasian kids. They're physically stronger and much more athletic than Caucasians. We can afford a much bigger house for our future because we can buy one in a diverse neighborhood with lower property values. We'll fit in well with the neighborhood and I don't have to worry as much about them being picked on at school like Caucasian kids often have to deal with. Most importantly, if my bully stays here, they'll have a black uncle (my bully) that might want to visit my girlfriend and his kids from time to time.

Now tell me what it is that makes YOU think I'm sick. Tell me how to "fix my brain" and Why would a girl dump a loyal provider that encourages her cheat on him? What would the point of that be? And tell me why you're so against this.

sp8der #transphobia reddit.com

Gay men are not attracted to transgendered woman (MTF) because they are not attracted to the physical appearance of a woman.

it's actually just the bit between the legs that makes me convulse, the entire rest of the woman is fine
i mean i like pretty feminine guys, and absolutely could not be less attracted to bears or bodybuilders, please explain

if you're interested in railing or being railed by Buck Angel, you're probably a gay guy

I have to push back on this because I cannot believe this is even remotely true. Almost every gay guy I know (and, being one myself, that's a fair few) is intensely repulsed by the mere concept of vagina and would go for Bailey Jay instead in a heartbeat. Bottoms especially would gain nothing from Buck Angel.

Sexual attraction really is sexual attraction in my experience.

Indeed. Myself and a bunch of my gay friends -- and even some of the straights -- have all shared the opinion that if we were to be raised today instead of X years ago, we would probably have been funneled down the trans pipeline.

Witchinghomo #psycho #magick reddit.com

Just to be clear, I have no intention nor would want to participate in human sacrifice. I love people and believe life is sacred.

My questions are for any polytheists in the sub that worship deities known to have been given human sacrifice as an offering in history

Does this disturb you? Did you get over it and chalk it up to the ancestors had their customs and you have your own? How did you react to it? Please be respectful in your comments.

Doesn’t bother me in the slightest. Animal sacrifices aren’t something I’ve done, but something I plan to incorporate in the future. How is this different than human sacrifice? Because we got big minds?

Well, for one, it’s against the law...in case you lack the morality which dictates not to slaughter an innocent human being in a religious ritual.


Witches aren’t meant to follow the law silly! We break the law of how nature is supposed to flow through people. That’s a pretty big law man. But fr, witches have always been on the fringe of society, witchcraft, to me, is the practice of taboo forms of magic. They were only influenced by the laws of man and their country because it got in the way of things. Magic =/= witchcraft. The very act of witchcraft was illegal for a long time. Don’t fear one illegal act and not another. I get I sound like I’ve got some screws loose. But why support animal sacrifice, but not human? Unless you’re anti animal sacrifice, that’s a whole other story. The dog or cat or deer will weep for their killed baby as much as a human mother would, ritualistic death or not.

kai_decadence #transphobia reddit.com

Men don't become women, women don't become men. A man can wear all the makeup he can afford, grow his hair out as long as he wants, wear nail polish, wear dresses & skirts, wear heels, and ingest Horse Urine and in extreme cases, have his penis surgically inverted but it doesn't make him a woman and he'll never be a woman. The saying "There are no girls with dicks, just men with tits" is pretty much the accurate saying for this. And i know what I said may sound harsh but that's just biological reality and it doesn't care about feelings, it cares about biological fact.

So sorry dude, if you're dating or have sex with a "MTF", you're still in a gay relationship or engaging in gay sex.

Thats the Ben Shapiro argument right there, its sound and valid. Realizing now how it boils down to how you define your words. Is gender a social construct (man/woman at your discretion) or a biological coding irreversible (permanently man/ woman)

I was never to keen on labels since it creates discourse; however to properly self identity, I'll say transexual or heterosexual or sometimes gay. If anything I hate the word pansexual, that is a lazy one.

Believe me there is a lot more to it than just that, I have real legitimate reasons why I do not believe in the trans ideology, it's just that i didn't want to overload with it on the question because it would be a wall of text. If you really want to know why I personally think transgenderism is a lie, just let me know and I will go more in depth because it's most likely not for the reasons you think.

Reddit Tankies #moonbat #dunning-kruger reddit.com

deaderontheinsideoof: For a state that boarders China its amazing this is the first case it's had so far

Sherwoodfan: honestly yeah. i like looking at north korea with a critical viewpoint but this is an amazing achievement. the only sources claiming there are covid cases in NK are "foreign experts", western "researchers" with pretty much no basis for these claims

follow_your_leader: And who have never set foot on the Korean peninsula at all in their lives, but have been proclaimed experts by others who have also never been to either Korea.

sp8der #homophobia #sexist reddit.com

Single gay men, by and large, have absolutely no respect for others' relationships. This goes triple or more for your typical camp queens. They will shamelessly hit on anyone they want, even if that person is in a relationship, and try and fuck them with not a flicker of guilt.

Cheating is absolutely rife in the gay world. Epidemic proportions.

As far as I'm aware, the lesbian relationship stereotype is the opposite; they stop having sex entirely a few months in.

sp8der #transphobia reddit.com

a homosexual attraction isn't valid or is lesser if both partners aren't cis.

A homosexual attraction is not a homosexual attraction if both partners are not of the same sex. That is literally against the definition. Having had genital surgery pushes it to a more grey area, but pre-op, it isn't even a debate. I know far more gays in relationships with pre-op MtF than pre-op FtM. (And, yes, they're well aware their relationship has an expiry date of sorts).

sp8der #transphobia reddit.com

[ Note: The term “trap” can also refer to trans-women]

The answer is somewhere between. Sexuality isn't a hard gay/straight/bi. It's made up of shades in between. If straight is 100 and gay is 0, bi would be 50.
I'd say trap fans (who arent attracted to masculine men) are around 70 or 80.

Bollocks to that. I'm a strict zero and I fucking love traps. Same goes for my boyfriend. Body hair, beards and muscles are gross. But vaginas are even grosser.

Are you sure you're a 0 then? If a straight dude told me he didn't like feminine secondary sexual attributes (breasts, long hair, petite), who preferred his women flat chested, with short hair and muscular/bulky it would certainly raise an eyebrow.
Not that that's wrong or that he isn't straight (if he's only into women he's straight), but I don't think that's a 100 on that spectrum... If you only enjoy your women when they're manly.
I'd expect a zero on that spectrum to like real manly men. For me as a straight guy relatively close to 100 reverse traps are extremely unappealing... (Because I'm not attracted to masculinity)

Well, I mean, there is absolutely no circumstance in which I would willingly have sex with anything that has a vagina. From my point of view you're straighter for having sex with Buck Angel than you would be for fucking Bailey Jay.

I don't really think it's "gayer" to like butch guys than it is to like feminine guys. I mean, is your idea of a person who is a zero manly as all fuck too, or feminine? And why? Cos when you think "super gay" you think femme, right?

Preferences are preferences. I'd argue a hypothetical Macho Steve McGristle wouldn't be any less hetero for having a bodybuilder girlfriend.

Throwaway017092 #transphobia reddit.com

I am tired of every sub glorifying trans people. It is a treatment to help a serious mental disorder, and a poor one at that. I have full support for most of the LGBT community, but I am struggling to justify the praise being trans gets. They are people, and being trans is wrong anyway.

Many trans people regret it after a while realising it’s a phase, and many only do this in the first place due to abuse, which is being hidden by ridiculous support for trans people. Becoming trans is not fixing your dysphoria, same as handing a suicidal person a rope because it’s “what they want” doesn’t fix the problem.

I would not label my self as transphobic (if we go with phobic in this case meaning hatred for). I see them as people, but I still question them. It is wrong. Think about it for a second. Chopping your penis off for a semi-functioning fake vagina. That is not normal. I understand why people do this, but this is not the way to fix not feeling comfortable in your body.

Sorry if this is incoherent, repetitive, or lacking correct terminology. I am just tired of glorifying something that isn’t safe or normal.

sp8der #transphobia #sexist reddit.com

[on transgender women]

Having a penis means you are a man. There is no such thing as a female penis. The concept is at odds with itself. A man with a penis who dresses as a woman and is attracted to women is a straight crossdresser. No matter what they call themselves or how they feel.

We might agree to come up with a different term to call them, but they can not and will never be a woman. That is a word that already has a definition that does not include them.

None of that is hateful, it is merely factual. Hate crimes are a false concept that deserve to not be recognised, and "non-crime hate incidents" even more so.

sp8der #transphobia reddit.com

[on discourse on straight men refusing to date trans women for being assigned male at birth]

I thought a big thing for the LGBT movement was the right to be attracted to whomever you wish; but apparently that doesn't extend to straight dudes. Sometimes I'm really glad I'm not straight, actually.

Like if I started getting amorous with someone I thought was male only to find out they had a vagina, I'd probably tell them to get the hell out of my house, because those things are disgusting to me on a visceral level that I can't adequately explain. I don't care how masculinely you present yourself, that's not what sexual attraction is about.

sp8der #sexist #transphobia reddit.com

I don't get the hate for women's genitalia that some gay men express. What's the deal? I get that women aren't attractive to gay men, but why be so negative and disparaging?

I can't even begin to explain it. It disgusts me on a visceral, primal level. you know how some people feel about spiders? That "NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE" feeling? It's that. if women had dicks, I would be happily bisexual, but I cannot have anything to do with that crotch-cave of nightmares.

I really don't mean to offend anyone but it just makes my skin crawl :( Buck Angel is literally my worst nightmare in a person. Manly body, vagina. NO. I like girly bodies and a nice, big cock.

staffonmod #conspiracy #transphobia #ableist #wingnut reddit.com

[Comment under "Sign language interpreters are annoying and distracting."]

"Signing Off Some Steam"

Why are we witnessing so many highly distracting new hires by the ASL, (American Sign Language) with all to most, presenting as flaming liberal transgenders, who also oddly, are trained stage actors, many whom are actually revolting (that demon possessed Lib look), and by far, more prominently positioned than the speaker, being forced on us? What exactly are the Commie plotters up to with this? I think I know.

Another question, how much is this costing local, state and federal governments, "we the people," to pay for this distracting mime clown show? Seems it all began with the Covida 19 show.

Do you know, these stage acting mimes of the ASL's, need their own 'hearing interpreter' who sits in front of them 'signing?' WTH, why not just use that person, like they used to? But the socialist way, why pay for one when two paychecks can now be cut. When did this start and how can we stop it? I've tried to explain to my highly educated sons, that this 'type' interpreter is a new phenomenon, and I know, nefarious on some level. We've always had 'signers,' at church, for special news bulletins, and political dignitary speeches. But, non assuming, almost in the shadows, or in a small virtual block off to the side of the TV screen. Now, they are the full attention spokesperson. and I stare in wonderment.

Look at all the Gov's press meetings. Dems and Repubs, legislature must have been passed in some Dem earmark and now, governors and involved informed citizens must bear thei punishment, as these nut cases are forced on all of us. They are not your regular certified American Sigh Language Interpreter, but raving leftest perverts and trained stage actors.

Here's DiBlassio's stage actor ASL, a long haired far leftest, who gyrates like his pants are on fire, with odd and distracting extreme facial antics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cdWzgFCV7M

Minn Gov Walz's ASL is a man woman, shaved head something, with over the top bizarre faces, and arms always flailing. Nic Patko. She has her own fan club. https://www.twincities.com/2020/06/06/meet-nic-zapko-her-face-and-hands-explain-gov-tim-walzs-words-to-the-deaf/

Kentucky and Virginia has their own 'internet famous and trending ASL's,' https://www.kens5.com/article/news/local/were-trying-to-get-the-message-out-to-everyone-asl-interpreter-keeps-kentuckys-deaf-hard-of-hearing-informed-on-covid-19/417-b7172c7c-d504-4a1b-bc5d-214540d4b7e0

One of the latest and worst with 'WTH' antics is crazy Chaz protectorate Gov Islee. His Guy actually bounces as he relays to the .1%. They must try to out-stage their niche genre. https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/06/washington-state-governor-jay-inslee-unaware-of-anarchists-taking-over-part-of-seattle/

One of the latest and worst with 'WTH' antics is crazy Chaz protectorate Gov Islee. His Guy actually bounces as he relays to the .1%. They must try to outstage their niche genre. https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/06/washington-state-governor-jay-inslee-unaware-of-anarchists-taking-over-part-of-seattle/

Last but not least is Governor Cuomo's Certified ASL Interpreter, he is actually a Ukrainian, and Professor, and admits his gig with Cuomo has bought him a sizable NY home, Arkady Belozosky https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/politics/albany/2020/05/14/who-is-andrew-cuomos-sign-language-interpreter/5188884002/

I don't doubt for a moment, this is purposeful and another evil ginned up ploy to bring 'WTH' confusion to the TV viewing public. I will admit this, I stop listening to the actual words these politicians are pontificating, and turn full focus to their 'mimes.' (they do have that mime weird aura, you can't deny.) Yeah, and they're winning, because we are not paying attention to the critical Governor mandates, rules and loss of liberties they are expounding upon our 'deaf ears,'

Launch_Day_My_Dudes #homophobia reddit.com

[Comment under "Poland's Catholic conservative President Duda re-elected"]

@WolviePL

To start of with: Media Polish State Media (TVP) is very biased. For example. Rafał Trzaskowski, criticised the plan to build massive airport tens of kilometres away from Warsaw, saying it would be useless, as there are already airports IN Warsaw that could be expanded, which the government doesn’t want to do, as well as a giant airport that was at the time being built in Berlin (it still is I believe) with which it would be hard to compete, as most connections would likely go through there. TVP made an article about it titled: „Trzaskowski nie chce 150 tys. miejsc pracy, bo mamy lotnisko w Berlinie”(“Trzaskowski doesn’t want 150k work places, because there is an airport in Berlin”). Do I really need to say more? My next point: Government’s Social Campaigns After Andrzej Duda was first elected in 2015 one of the first things he had done was implementing a program called “Rodzina 500+” (Family 500+). The idea of this campaign was to in courage Polish couples to have more children by giving monthly 500 PLN (112€, 127$, 100£) to the family for every child(basically all people under 18). Then there came Wyprawka+,Mieszkanie+, 13th and 14th pension, lowering the retirement age and more. All of those has led to drainage of the Polish budget, covered up by raises of taxes and printing more money. I think I don’t have to tell you what effect will this have on Polish economy in the future. Next:Corruption I am going to keep it brief and only give you one example. A few weeks ago the Polish government bought over 100k surgical masks for over 5 million PLN (50 PLN for a bloody surgical mask). The seller turned out to be a friend of the minister of health. Said friend is an skiing instructor. A FUCKING SKIING INSTRUCTOR. Not to mention that the minister’s brother turned out to be involved. To top it all of the masks turned out to be useless as they didn’t live up to the safety standards. No one was held accountable. Last but not least: Lack of tolerance. When I heard that the Andrzej Duda wants to change the Polish constitution to specifically make it say that Homosexual marriages are illegal I thought I was going to shit myself out of anger. Don’t get me wrong, I myself am a straight male and on top of that a catholic. Also, around to days before election, to many houses in my city, there has been delivered a letter from the Vice-President of the City. It heavily criticised the President for hanging a LGBT flag in the town hall. In conclusion I want to move out of Poland, believe me it hurts me to say it, because I love my country, as this country has no future. The corruption, regressive society, propaganda and an inevitable economic crisis has led me to this conclusion.

Edit: I forgot to mention how bad and corrupt the law system is.

Reply from Launch_Day_My_Dudes:

I understand and agree with your other objections, but why get particularly angry at discrimination against homosexuals?

They are not a particularly productive fraction of the Polish population (the Jews, Tatars, and recently Vietnamese have generally been beneficial to the country, but what good can come of some purse-collecting fashion queens? Indeed, they seem generally much less patriotic than any of those other minorities). They absolutely should not get tax breaks for marrying, since such relationships do not benefit the state in the slightest (so why subsidize them?). To be honest, many heterosexual couples should not get tax breaks or government benefits either.

saoyraan #sexist reddit.com

(The discussion was about 1920 and the suffragette movement; the commenter I was replying to said they were surprised that so many women were okay with not being able to vote)

darkphoenixff4: It's not a surprise, when you consider history. Fact is, if all your life you've been told you CAN'T do something, the idea of changing that and doing that thing is scary to a lot of people. It's why freed dictatorships tend to revert to dictatorship under a new dictator; the people there are used to someone stomping on them, so they're confused and afraid because no one is doing it anymore. When the new dictator comes along, it pushes them back into what is "normal" for them.

saoyraan: Well then at what point are women free to choose and can be free to choose while men can't. It is a gender role for the man to man up take his lot on life and move on. It is also the role that men have to be heroes and sacrifice their well being to serve the community. This is a definition of a gender role. Women had a gender role as well and that was the caretaker and the motherly figure. This is why laws basically in divorce favor children being taken from men and the house to them. You seem to be saying the grass is greener on the other side but it is still grass. Women during those times accepted the roles and positions. You are hyper focusing on one aspect of human nature while demonizing another in order to pump you social justice values but without thought or reason. Societies change and standards changed throughout history on this very subject and tons of studies and discussions on this. Not even is ot just western culture but the same social patterns developed in human history in different cultures worlds apart. When your hatred and seeking to demonize a particular group o suggest studying history. At some point you have to realize the genders have traits that prompt certain behaviors over the other. Humans are animals and still fall into that category that most SJW forget.

darkphoenixff4: Thanks for that giant misogynist screed. In response, I say go fuck yourself.

stupid_Goof, wwaayynnee #racist #wingnut reddit.com

Peel school board 'dysfunctional' in face of racism, can't govern properly, report finds

A newly-released report on the state of the Peel District School Board (PDSB) paints a damning picture of dysfunction among administrators who are ill-prepared to deal with anti-Black racism directly affecting students.

The province released a report it had commissioned from lawyer and human rights advocate Arleen Huggins on Monday, in which she investigated the school board's capacity to comply with a host of directives from Ontario Education Minister Stephen Lecce after a review of the board found issues of systemic racism.
……….
A third-party review of the board found that Black students are only 10.2 per cent of the secondary school population, but about 22.5 per cent of the students receiving suspensions.

The reviewers heard anecdotally that some principals "use any excuse" to suspend Black students, including wearing hoodies or hoop earrings.

Recent school board data shows that about 83 per cent of secondary school students in the board are racialized, and the reviewers say about two-thirds of teachers in the board are white.

Lecce has previously said one element of the report that was especially troubling was that disproportionate numbers of Black students are being streamed into applied streams of education, rather than into university-focused courses.


Stupid_goof : “I bet a lot of that racism comes from the students themselves too.”


wwaayynnee :The word 'racism' is thrown around alot these days.....lets read some specifics. Who's racist? Give examples of all this 'racism' in Peel schools. Everywhere I go I see blacks and whites getting along great. Is the racism coming from other races? Instead of screaming RACISM with no explanation, give specific information. The article states that black students make up 10% of student population but recieve 22% of suspensions... thats 'racism' ?? Is it possible that the students actions lead to these suspensions? Is it possible that the high number of single mothers/broken families in the black population have more to do with a students actions than 'racist' teachers/principles have to do with it?

autisticblackce #sexist #psycho reddit.com

being around women further conforms the blackpill

They will go to wendys and she will be eyeballing the chad in line fantasizing about getting her back blown out while your eating a burger in front of her,once a foid gets confortable around u she drops more blackpills than a teen disney movie,hypergamy is wired in their brains,so even if u get a GF that is step one,her pussy is like the middle east,one occupier after a next,she even if you do manage to ascend she will text guys behind your back,most of the pussy is like a ps2 game PRE-OWNED

Anotheruser84 #quack #sexist reddit.com

These poor idiots can't do logical processing.

They assumed there would be a vaccine...oblivious to the nuances involved that make that virtually impossible. Not just in the next year or two, but ever.

They can't think even one step ahead. They don't see that no vaccine + limited hospital capacity = shutdown = slowed herd immunity....and at the current rate of infections in this social distancing + masks + shutdowns shithole, that's a literal lifetime away.

Literally every non-essential business will permanently shut down in the next few years. The entire world will take place online.

And many of these basement-dwelling, autistic soys will be on the street with their broke parents.

So while they repeatedly told us to "go outside," when the only notion of outside they ever head was shoveling dog shit in their parents' yard, it will in fact be they who are forced to give up their faggoty video games and their anime and their Reddit LARPing.

balbasor456 #conspiracy reddit.com

@dorothy_zbornak_esq

I’m an attorney and one of my clients sent a photo of her naked child to me without warning me what it was and suddenly I had a child’s vagina on my screen at work. That was not a fun experience. That client was one of the worst people I’ve ever known.

That just says alot about the legal system, a picture of a vagina can get u in trouble, isnt that crazy draconian? Meanwhile we have children playing video games where they all kill each other and thats perfectly legal. Sometimes we as sentient human beings have to step back and ask our selves, are we doing the right thing or are we being played by powerful people who dont even care about us,

JunkyardSam #ableist #quack #conspiracy #mammon #psycho reddit.com

The majority of deaths are sick people over 75. It might make sense for them to stay indoors, to wear hazmat suits when they go out.
But what about the rest?
•In USA only 9222 people under 55 have died.
•Only 3201 people under 45 have died.
•Only 1032 people under 35 have died.
•Only 188 under 25 have died.
Remember: We are a nation of 327,167,434 according to the same source.
(Source https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#AgeAndSex as of yesterday, will be a little higher today)
We are asking young people to give up a year or more of their lives for what? So very old and sick people can live forever, like vampires?

["This can be argued that every American who suffered from this pandemic should be given at least 10,000 dollars for their pain and suffering. Just tax all the worthless celebs and big tech for the money. Black Friday should be called Splurge Day."]

Indeed, though I wouldn't trade my time for just $10k.
I have lost more than that in terms of memories, and increased stress during this work-from-home nightmare in a small house with 4 kids.
And before someone says, "WELL. No one FORCED you to have 4 kids." No, they didn't. But they forced us into lockdown.
Remember, there are people who want to participate in the economy right now. There are businesses who wish to open and serve them.
I know it's a meme-joke, now, so we're not allowed to talk about it -- but what about the freedom of letting people make their own choices?
If this virus was as threatening as they make it out to be it wouldn't need a marketing campaign.
Those who fear it should definitely stay indoors and wear hazmat suits when they go out. But me? I'm 45 and healthy. We are a nation of 327+ million and less than 10,000 people under 55 have died. And ~90% of those has 2.6 serious health conditions already.
Most deaths are sick people over 75.
Every day I grow more angry, more frustrated, and more depressed... and I know I'm not alone.
It will be interesting to see what happens in November.

Assorted Monarchists (no, they really do exist) #elitist reddit.com

fisch-boi:
Kaiser Wilhelm was misunderstood
Everyone here knows this, The Kaiser was misunderstood. Most call him an angry psychopath but in reality he wasn't. He started no war, it was the Serbians, he loved his family, even his British relatives. Of course he had to choose Germanyover them, but they choose their own countries over him. His own generals lied to him and he had severe anxiety and doubted himself severely.

monarchistogtr:
It was the British who started World War 1 restore the Jacobites

snake1000234 #racist #wingnut #conspiracy reddit.com

This is long because I've kept my mouth shut for a while just watching. Yesterday pissed me off, so now I'm venting and regurgitating a bit of info I've heard and personally believe in.

The problem seems to lie in the idea of Hate Speech. Its a phrase that has been thrown around a ton in the last few years, even though it is very subjective and doesn't mean anything more than speech someone could find offensive or in conflict with their own ideology.

Reddit remade their rules such that it could target and remove what they see as Hate Speech, and unfortunately that targets a lot of right leaning ideology. The reason for that is that Hate Speech doesn't really have a set term, so it is used and abused to go against right leaning idea's because reddit is a heavily left leaning (especially in positions of power) forum that doesn't want to completely ruin itself by banning everything conservative or farther right leaning. They slowly do it and hope people stay around for the non-political subs.

Anyway, back to why right leaning stuff tends to be the target of hate speech - Its because most right leaning ideas and talking points are based in more fact, and the left can't fight against it so they ban it and try to keep it from other's being "infected".

Stats about African-America and other darker skin toned groups having higher violence rates. Stats about transgendered people being more likely to have mental issues or dealing with suicide. Stats that show that men aren't the only abusers and women actually lie maliciously to hurt men (see all the women that came out against Trump and how that died). All numbers that we have that prove there are issues, but that are targeted because they "discriminate" against people.

And the left has surrounded themselves with so many "minority" groups and extremists that they have made themselves a bubble of people that have been/can be/ or are discriminated against so that if anyone dares speak out against them, the dem's can fall back on the idea that the person is homophobic, trans-phobic, islamaphobic, working for the patriarchy, racists, sexist, etc, etc etc. And then the bubble forms around what/whoever spoke out only to swallow them up and spit them out beaten half to death.

And the sad thing is, this is just reddit. Youtube has updated policies yesterday as well and banned a large number of videos, channels, and accounts for the same "hate speech" issues. Twitch has banned Trump. And hell there is so much more suppression of speech by the right because the left knows the less people can hear the truth, the easier it is to brainwash them with the liberalized media, news, and social platforms. (Some of Trump's highest approval ratings were during his daily Covid briefings. News didn't like it, stopped broadcasting, and now his ratings have tanked.)

Its a cluster that is all leading to the 2020 election, and this time it could be really scary seeing everything that is happening. And if Dem's get in, America as we currently know it probably won't even be seen again. We will undergo a radical transformation as extreme leftist ideology is thrust unto use and conservatism is banned for being wrong think.

bestgoyever #conspiracy #homophobia #racist #quack #wingnut reddit.com

Facebook is currently undergoing a siege of advertisement boycotts because they won’t censor the platform enough, but for some reason, investors keep pouring money into the company. Basically, the Israeli group “Anti-Defamation League” is threatening to publicly accuse anyone who continues advertising with Facebook of supporting the Holocaust.

After stonewalling requests to ban Donald Trump and everyone who supports him, Facebook stonewalled. Now, they’re beginning to do categorical bans. They will no doubt just keep slowly doing more and more bans, all the while protesting that they support freedom of speech, like a woman protesting between giggles as you slowly tear off items of clothing. It almost seems like the whole thing is just a stage play being acted out for the edification of the audience.

The latest categorical ban comes against people trying to help homosexuals.

Male homosexuality is a vice and hygiene problem that has occurred in society for a very long time, primarily oriented towards pubescent boys. Historically, the men engaged in this behavior did not break away and form a degenerate subculture, or have this sterile aversion to women and family life. They had wives and families like everyone else.

This was a side behavior, not a lifestyle or an identity.

It was like this with the Greeks, Japanese and others, and is still like this with most Moslems and religious Jews.

Homosexualism, on the other hand, is a foreign ideology that was invented in San Francisco in the 1960s. It is an identity cult built around a pathological fixation on a sterile sexual hobby, to the exclusion of the principle function of sex. It is a rebellion against the natural family order – like feminism for men. Since it is a belief system and a cult, it should be curable by psychosocial intervention.

However, Mark Zuckerberg would rather that young boys be lured into this cult, get diseases, be psychologically destroyed, and die young with no children.

It is a disgrace to the medical profession that the American Medical Association would cite these over-the-top, holocaustic claims.

There would be no need to do anything traumatizing to confused teenagers in order to teach them to act normally. Like any other behavior disorder, this could be mitigated with individual and group psychotherapy and group activities reinforcing appropriate behavior.

Not only is it impossible to advertise these services, but it is increasingly impossible to offer them in the West – they were banned in Germany this year.

Lhopital_rules #transphobia reddit.com

Man, i can't believe we're getting downvoted for saying we want to have sex with a woman. Is it politically incorrect now if you don't accept having sex with someone who used to or currently has male genitalia? How is that wrong? It's not like races. As a culture, we are successfully learning to love and be able to date anyone of any race. But there is never going to be a time when males (in general) are going to want to be with transergendered women over a natural-born woman. That's just biology!


Smells like bigotry.

You know that that's the same thing people say about the entire LGBT community.

What are you talking about? I said nothing bad about transgendered people other than that I wouldn't want to sleep with a transgendered woman. Just like I wouldn't want to sleep with a man. Because I'm a straight male. So what?

I don't know if you're trolling or just dumb, but I have NOTHING against LGBT people and said nothing to that effect. This may be cliche, but some of my closest friends are gay, I have a good friend who is female-to-male, and I'm bi-ish myself. So gtfo with your stereotypes and assumptions.

Lhopital_rules #transphobia reddit.com

If someone presents themselves as a woman when they are a transgendered woman, without disclosing such information to their significant other, then yes, that is "lying".


A trans woman is a woman as far as being my friend is concerned. But not as far as being my lover is concerned. I will fight to the death to defend someone's right to get gender reassignment surgery if they truly have gender dysmorphia. But I will not pretend that I see no difference between a woman who was born that way and a woman who was constructed. Most men feel the same, though -- lucky for transgendered women -- there are men who don't care.

Reconstructive surgery is not necessary for living with gender dysmorphia.

To be honest, I don't really care how much the fact that trans people exist and some of them are women you might be interested in makes your boner sad. A trans woman living as a woman is neither a lie nor a "lie."

I didn't say that "a trans woman living as a woman is neither a lie nor a 'lie'". I said that it would be lying -- or at least, omitting the truth -- if a trans woman were to carry on a long-term relationship with a man without telling him that she used to be a man. Because most - though again, not all - men care about that sort of thing. And not because it's logical. But because a dick wants what it wants. You think a gay guy wouldn't be upset if the guy he was dating turned out to be trans and didn't know until 6 months in? (OK, maybe a bad example. I don't know any gay guys who would wait to have sex that long.)

But my point is, I think you may be letting your preconceived notion of me as a gay-hating librul-bashing conservatard (which couldn't be farther from the truth, btw) color your perception of my comments. All I've said and all I'm saying now is if someone isn't honest about something like that to their partner, it's not fair to their partner.

EDIT: And for the record, I understand that you feel offended or whatever about things I've said and that you're upset, but this is not a good way to go about bringing people to your side:

> To be honest, I don't really care how much the fact that trans people exist and some of them are women you might be interested in makes your boner sad.

Because, for one, you obviously care or you wouldn't be having this discussion with me. But also because it's a very spiteful thing to say. And utterly silly, since I'm not upset about trans women existing pre- or post-op, and I already have a girlfriend who I will likely marry. I don't have any personal vendetta against LGBT people [as I mentioned before, I'm very pro-gay rights and have close friends who are LGBT in one way or the other]. I'm simply having an intellectual argument with you. And I hope you know that. Because there's already enough hate in the world without you and I adding to it.

[deleted] #sexist reddit.com

RE: "Results mirror the sexual harassment literature and suggest that harassment by younger and attractive men is viewed as less harassing". (Fairchild, 2010).

this is why the left and SJW's/3rd wave feminists/4th wave feminists are making "harassment" a thing based off how the girl "felt" "emotionally". according them them harassment isnt a objective action. if a ugly guy does it they claim its harassment, if a good looking guy does it, they claim its "sexy" "confident" "hes a good mentor"

total bullshit. the whole me too thing ruined women's credibility/respect and set them back centuries lol

the thing with that is because in the courtroom you have to go by logic, facts, and objective reality. so for women they are the opposite of that.

__RICKYDAVIS #racist #psycho #wingnut reddit.com

George Floyd was a violent career criminal and a worthless piece of shit. But it makes sense that he has become the left's Jesus Christ because he was everything that the average leftoid wishes that they could be: black, perpetually unemployed, ex-con, amateur porn star, with easy access to all the drugs he can handle. The holy grail of leftism.

spezCandyDispenser #moonbat #pratt reddit.com

Are you interested in reading an explanation of the situation in Xinjiang? It is a complex one. Here it is, using many lib sources no less, just to be safe.

Approximately 50% of what you hear is outright propaganda, as we know the CIA’s affiliates churn out. We also see CIA assets pushing narratives on Reddit. The next 25% is poorly researched speculation by an evangelical end-timer, and the final 25% is an accurate description of the PRC’s response to far right, religious terrorism and separatism.

First, let’s just establish using safe, American sources that tens of thousands of Uyghur people went to fight with ISIS in Syria, then returned. Let’s also establish that there have been consistent terrorist attacks with significant casualties and that the CIA and CIA front-groups have funded and stoked Islamic extremism across the world for geopolitical gain.. We also know that Saudi Arabia along with CIA are actively pushing weapons in that area and have a program to radicalize muslims there with the same tactics they have used everywhere in the middle east in the last 40+ years.

Its also very important to note that unlike China, no western country has Muslims as a majority (or significant minority) of any region, nor are the Muslims rural, lacking formal education, and not integrated into the national economy (which is a failure of past Chinese policy I agree). This means that in the west any Islamic threat is necessarily limited to lone wolf terrorism, or the occasional cell, whereas in Xinjiang it’s plausible that a significant Islamic seperatist movement could take power if the CPC if it didnt do anything about it.

Also the west lacks a border with Afghanistan with tens of thousands of islamists, ISIS and fundementalists. That dramatically limits the external support any such movement could receive. China has that geographical issue and it adds another level of danger and instability in the area and potential escalation.

Now, we need to consider potential responses.

The CPC could give up and surrender Xinjiang to ISIS and radicalization that is happening in large scales. This option condemns millions of people to living under a fundamentalist Islamic State, including many non-Muslims and non-extreme Muslims. This option also creates a CIA-aligned state on the border, and jeopardizes a key part of the Belt and Road initiative, which is designed to connect landlocked countries for development and geopolitical positioning.It destabilizes the whole area further and also threatens the CPC’s legitimacy, as keeping China together, prosperous and united has been one of the most important mandates for the party.

The next option is the American option. Drone strike, black-site, or otherwise liquidate anyone who could be associated with Islamic extremism. Be liberal in doing so. Make children fear blue skies because of drones. When the orphaned young children grow up, do it all again. You can also throw a literal man-made famine in there if you want.). Millions of deaths and entire cultures and regions destroyed and destabilized.

The final option is the Chinese option. Mass surveillance. Use AI to target anyone who may be at risk of radicalisation for re-education based on the geographical position/areas, personal/family connections and social circle with islamist orgs or extremists. Teach them the lingua franca of China, Mandarin. Pump money into the region for development. When people finish their time in re-education, set them up with state jobs. Keep the surveillance up. Allow and even celebrate local religious customs, but make sure the leaders are on-side with the party.

There’s no evidence, including from leaked papers, that the goal of the deradicalization program is permanent internment or annihilation of Islam. In fact, the leaked CIA papers have Xi explicitly saying Islam should not be annihilated from China:

Mr. Xi also told officials to not discriminate against Uighurs and to respect their right to worship. He warned against overreacting to natural friction between Uighurs and Han Chinese, the nation’s dominant ethnic group, and rejected proposals to try to eliminate Islam entirely in China.

“In light of separatist and terrorist forces under the banner of Islam, some people have argued that Islam should be restricted or even eradicated,” he said during the Beijing conference. He called that view “biased, even wrong.”

As for permanent internment, we know from leaks that the minimum duration of detention is one year — though accounts from ex-detainees suggest that some are released sooner. with often taking weekends off.

There’s no stoking of inter-ethnic hatred or elimination of a specific culture; the CPC actively censors footage from terrorist attacks in China to avoid such an outcome. Xi doesn’t go on TV calling any ethnicity rapists or murderers. Uighur culture is actively celebrated in the media and via tourism. Xinjiang has 24,400 mosques, one per 530 Muslims. That’s three mosques per capita more than their western peers . Muslims in every other part of China other than Xinjiang (the majority of Muslims in China) face zero issues and just practice their religion freely. Kinda weird for a country that's islamophobic and wants to do cultural genocide

I’ve used some Chinese sources for detailed information in China that other sources don’t tend to have (like in-depth infographics on poverty reduction and the number of mosques per capita), but the key information is from American institutes and leaked Chinese documents and as a result even this account may be a bit overexaggerate and biased for he western side.

Of course there are human rights abuses in Xinjiang. There are human rights abuses everywhere, especially when implementing programs that give institutional power to people. One question to ask is what the driving factor behind those abuses are. State line and extermination policy? We can discern that by looking at the instructions and training given. Another question to ask is what the alternatives of the institutional policy are for China, and what human rights abuses, are avoided through the policy.

Could China’s approach be done better? Almost certainly. Are they exterminating or genociding muslims ? No. Is it the correct response to extremism at that scale? That’s for you to decide.

MentleGentlemen098, Suck-Less & xNOM #sexist reddit.com

(MentleGentlemen098)

I think women are raised to think they're superior, especially when they're young, could be a curse in disguise

To start this off, I want to say that even the title make it seem like it, I'm not intending this to be a misogynistic post, so it's not like "Roastie hit the wall hur dur". This is just an observation made by me, so im trying to make it as neutral as possible.

Now that we're clear, let's get started

I think in general, it seems that women are the ones that have all the advantages in the world, especiallY when they're young. And this is because they're kinda raised to have that mentality. This is just my observation based on how my experience in a household of mostly women.

I don't know how to explain this but I feel most women are raised to "look down" and be judgemental on a lot of men. They're kinda taught to be "reserved" and "non confrontational", while at the same time quitely(and sometimes openly with other women) judging others(especially men) in their head. They separated them into categories like creep, background furniture, and hottie. Men do this as well, but the extent of the judgement is nowhere near this much. We do it honestly and openly, and any men who does his are labeled as sexist snd shallow, and most men ill likely reflect on that and change themself. In contrast, women who are caught doing this will likely not do it publicly, but in their head, they will reluctantly withdrawI purely because it's socially inappropriate to appear shallow and not because it's actuallu wrong. I know not all women are like this, but the stereotype isn't there for no reason.

For example, I know this one girl in a STEM field who sometimes complain about her dates to me. She said her first date was with a dorky nerd guy from her field. He emphasize on that a lot and she kinda makes the fact that he wears sandles to the date a pretty big deal. I questioned her on why did she make such a big deal and she responded with something along the lines of "oh, im not supposed to make this a big deal? Sorry :P"

I think this may actually be a curse in disguise as well. The reason they're unhappy will be 100% from their own doing, even though their situation is perfectly fine already, since they fail to see men as actual human, and more like an object that disappoints them. They're inablity to realize and change their shallowness, and try to hide it on top of that is also a curse as well. There are many shallow and misogynistic men who have grown up and actually lived a happier life when they finally see women as human being, but the same cannot be said about these women. Instead of sweeping out the filth, they sweep it in the rug even more, and they will suffer that background "itch" for the rest of their lives because nothing will ever satisfy them.

Honestly, if they could break out of the cycle, people would being happier, both the men and themselves as well

(Suck-Less)

I’m sorry but I thought it was self evident that women are raised to think they are superior in all aspects of human existence. In schools boys get a 30% lower score compared to girls for exactly the same answers, how could they not think they are smarter? Communication in Western society is define by how well men can read her mind. Emotional maturity only applies to men, women having temper tantrums is considered healthy, men crying in pain is considered weakness.

We have entire generations raised and educated almost exclusively by women with near no male guidance.

Whenever women get their asses handed to them in any field, the answer is always sexism... because women have been raised to think there’s no other way an inferior man could have just blown them away in competition.

So, now, men are relegated to being disposable ATMs and manual labor, while women wonder “where have all the good men gone, they are tired of lowering their standards.”

Yea, thought it was self evident.

Edit: I’m talking American women, your culture may vary.

(xNOM)

I’m a female and the anti male jokes when men aren’t around is just boring as hell. I don’t think women know how good the have it (in the west). I don’t mind men making fun of women, it would make the women mocking men more palatable, if it was a two way system. Nothing wrong with banter, we are completely different.

Well this is the problem in a nutshell. Women don't banter. They gossip, comfort, and backstab. They have an in-group preference for women exactly because of this. The rules are different. They cannot handle male rules. Men cannot handle female rules. This used to not be a problem because men and women lived in separate worlds.

Banter is direct. It requires a sense of humour and, most of all, a recognition of one's own faults in a public way. That's why it's funny. Women are not funny. They want to be protected from public criticism. This is why you can't state basic facts in public anymore, like: women are horrible at controlling motor vehicles. That's "sexist."

Ishouldsayit #sexist reddit.com

I’ve noticed a social trend; women are more confident in physical and social confrontations because it’s safer for them

I remember when this picture was posted, the story of the women who lined up to protect the male protesters. It's a very interesting picture because it captures a weird dichotomy in society right now- women are sort of perched in a top social position where they are both more confident in confrontation, and also "protected" by societal rules. That may be confusing so let me unravel what I mean:

That picture happened because the women knew that as women, the police were less likely to "get physical" with them. They knew they were safer then men doing the same thing. I noticed this a lot during the protests/marches to...when protesters or neighborhood folk would confront rioters/looters, it was women would usually "took point" and were the most forwardly aggressive, including towards men. Why? Because women know that a man is much less likely to hit them in public.

However, at the same time women enjoy an advantage were we are not expected to participate; men are expected to subject themselves to violence, women aren't. Women can both volunteer men to violence while exempting themselves, and also choose to participate with a “stronger hand” than men. And, at the same time, even if a woman is more aggressive and forward towards a man, he is still expected to treat her "more softly" then he would a woman.

This happened again last night, when idiots were setting off fireworks and waking up children. People in my building were in the hallway, looking towards the door talking about the people outside. Some men were reluctant to go out, because it was a tense situation- what if the people outside are violent or fight them? But a woman marches right out and starting screaming at them, forcing them to leave. As a woman they weren't going to fight her like they might have to a man. Women have a sort of "social power" right now that men don't.

Being a woman is a massive perk in a confrontation situation. This applies to really anything- someone playing music too loud? It's better if a woman knocks on the door. Someone messing up the garbage in the dumpster? Better if a woman confronts them. It's more effective and safer if a woman confronts a man than if a man does, because for the first time, women are empowered to be physically confrontation when necessary, but at the same time, we are still (mostly) protected by the unwritten rule for most men not to hit a woman, even if self defense.

It’s a safer for a woman to confront a man than it is for a man to.

azazelcrowley #sexist reddit.com

RE: Wikipedia article on "Internalized Sexism" actively removes gender neutral terms and any mention of the effects on men

I believe talking about the issues that women face with internalized misogyny is very important but I don't understand why they're so adamant about making this a one sided issue. If they really just wanted it to be an article on internalized misogyny, why not make an article called "Internalized Misogyny?"

It's an extension of their decades long temper tantrum and denial that misandry is a thing.

They started using toxic masculinity when the backlash over them denying misandry existed got too much for them.

But note that this is a stop-gap measure for their filibuster bigotry, since they're using "Toxic masculinity" to demarcate the discussion and isolate it, not discussing internalized sexism for men and so on, or "Misandrists", etc. It's a way for them to admit mens issues exist (finally), while still committing systemic epistemic injustice against men by trying to isolate that discussion from discussions of internalized sexism, misandry, misandrists, etc.

Feminist ideology is merely mobilized epistemic injustice.

goodmod #sexist reddit.com

It is now males, rather than females, who suffer the vast majority of institutional discrimination

This post was originally submitted by u/Vwar. For new subscribers, here it is again. There are many useful links at the bottom of the post.

I don't believe that males have ever been privileged in the way feminists claim. But we are now at the point where the deck is stacked against males at every stage of their lives and in almost every major institution.

When a male is born he can have his genitals mutilated. Hundreds of baby boys die from this procedure every year.

Then comes primary school, where boys are often punished and even drugged for displaying natural boyish behaviour. Recent studies have also revealed that female teachers mark down boys by an average of 20 percent for the same work.

Huge numbers of boys are now being raised without fathers (including about 99 percent of school shooters, funny how we never talk about that), and since pedo hysteria has chased male teachers out of primary school, boys often don't have any male role models until much later in life.

Boys only clubs such as the Boy Scouts are being eliminated while girl only clubs remain.

Teenage boys are being introduced to blatantly misandrist concepts like "toxic masculinity," with nary a word about toxic femininity and nothing about the positive aspects of masculinity.

Next it's off to University, where there are a range of female-specific scholarships and programs even though women make up the majority of college students and young women are now out-earning young men. They are also portrayed as rapists in waiting, and there are entire departments (gender studies) devoted to demonising their sex. If a young man pisses off a young woman (eg dumps her after a one night stand) he faces the possibility of being subjected to a false accusation and a feminist Kangaroo court. Then it's bye bye academic career and social reputation.

If he wants to vote he will have to sign over his body to the state (selective service). After that, conscription is mandatory if the State wants it. In some countries, all males but no females are required to undergo a compulsory period of military service after the reach adulthood.

If he gets a woman pregnant he will not have the option of legal parental surrender. While a woman can just drop off the baby at a safe haven, the man is on the hook for 18 years of child support and will be locked up if he loses his job and can't pay.

In the workplace things are just as bad. Men perform almost all of the dirty and dangerous jobs and make up 95 percent of workplace injuries and deaths. If a white man wants to pursue a more respected career he faces racial and sexual discrimination in hiring due to corporate "diversity" measures and quotas. A recent study in ... I think it was Australia found that "blind hiring" practices (where the employer doesn't know the race or sex of the applicant) result in more straight white males being hired; this means that it is straight white men who are now suffering discrimination in the workplace.

With MeToo, a man can be fired from his job simply for making a woman uncomfortable. There have even been cases of men being fired for telling a naughty joke.

If he gets married and the wife divorces him through no fault of his own he will likely be treated like shit by the family courts unless he can afford a high priced lawyer. There are countless stories of men effectively being turned into indentured servants by their ex-wives; they live in poverty and seldom see their kids while the wife gets a new "baby daddy" and lives high on the hog. NOW, the largest feminist organization in the world, continues to oppose shared parenting even though every single study shows it to be in the best interests of the children, the father and even the mother.

He will receive less social support, less health care spending, and be relentlessly demonised in the media.

If a male is sexually assaulted by a woman he will probably not receive justice; the perpetrator will likely get a slap on the wrist even if the victim is a boy.

If he commits a crime or is falsely accused of a crime he will be treated much, much more harshly by the criminal justice system.

I could go on.

It is a myth that feminists think the sexes are equal. Their method of operation goes like this: if men are ahead in some area, that means women are being oppressed because the sexes are identical except for genitalia; however, if women are ahead in some area that's because women are superior. You can find this sentiment going back to the first wave. Elizabeth Cady Stanton claimed that women are "infinitely superior" to men.

The prison thing is perhaps the most glaring example of feminists not practising what they preach. If they were serious about equality they would be demanding either that men be treated with more compassion/leniency or that women be treated more harshly (or some combination of the two). Instead, they want women to be treated even more leniently, and some are even advocating for the complete abolition of female prisons.

Men are increasingly second class citizens not only in a social but legal sense. A study in the UK determined that if women were treated like men by the criminal justice system, fully half of all prisoners would be female. Women do NOT commit less crimes than men (though they do commit less homicides), they just don't get punished to anywhere near the same extent.

If feminism were an "equality" movement they would not be trying to privilege females in every single institution. They would be looking with a keen eye at areas in which males are disadvantaged and/or subject to institutional discrimination. They certainly wouldn't blame everything on some nebulous all-encompassing "patriarchy" that hasn't even been proven to exist.

Advocates of gender equality must reject feminism, and support men's rights.

Entredarte #sexist reddit.com

We are descending into chaos, if Feminist and Men’s Rights don’t sort themselves out

I’m aware that Men’s Rights formed as a response to 4th wave over zealous feminist, but if we don’t have a proper sit down we’re fucked. I’ve checked out the feminist group and it’s an zero agency echo chamber that “men are dirt and are what’s wrong with the world, and no one takes us seriously”. It’s like they get angrier then we feel attacked so we respond with the opposite but equal force so on, it’s wild.

I’ve read some articles that whatever men do to women is always malicious and negatively intentional, and not down to the fact that contrary to popular belief, we are in fact different (often diametrically opposed) in our communication and reaction, due to outside of dating and controlled environments (school, work) we don’t interact with each other on the regular, so we have no way of knowing the others perspective and when discussions are brought up it’s normally with the goal of winning an argument rather than understanding.

This isn’t the subreddit for this, but something tells me that the powers that be want it exactly like this. Jeezus! Most issues would be resolved if we got rid of bureaucracy and institutions trying to validate their systems, and just talked, no stage no event, just discussion.

Gingor #homophobia #transphobia reddit.com

Straight men of Ask Men who object to gay (and bi?) guys in the locker room: why?

They are men that might find me sexually attractive and I'm not gay.
They should get their own locker room.

If they're not sexually assaulting you, ogling you, or otherwise treating you in ways that are inappropriate, then why? What's your objection?

I don't want men to be attracted to me, and I certainly don't want men that are attracted to me anywhere near me when I'm naked.

The thought of two men together grosses me out a lot (nothing against gays, as long as they don't do PDA though, do in your bedroom whatever you want), and me being one of those men in someone else's head is just outright vomit-inducing.

Straight Men: Do you see male-to-female transsexuals as female and/or women? If so, would you pursue one?

I'd be perfectly happy to treat them as women, as it makes them feel better and I don't really care, but female they are not. Females are born female while gender can be chosen.

I'm only attracted to females.

Edit: And before someone claims it again: I don't hate transsexuals. I don't think they should be beaten or killed or what have you. I simply don't want to sleep with them and believe that they should state their transsexual status before having sex for the first time, as it's a dealbreaker for a lot of people.

Would you have sex with a [b]transman[/b] (pre-op or post-op)?
Pre-op: If he looked sufficiently feminine, yes.

Post-op: Nope.

I'm a trans guy (so I was born female, but identify as male and am starting to [b]transition with hormones, chest surgery,[/b] name change, dress, etc). I'm mostly into men


I'd be more open to a relationship with you as a straight man.
I mean, you were born a woman, so it isn't really gay. Might be worth a shot, just for the experience.

Gingor #homophobia reddit.com

Men of Reddit, How Would You Respond to Being Hit on by a Man

Cold, but civil.
If he doesn't get it quickly though, I'd be perfectly willing to get violent too.

Because I don't like being badgered after I've said no, and punching a man is a lot more socially acceptable than punching a woman.
I'd also say being badgered by a guy is worse than being badgered by an unattractive woman. At least the woman still has a vagina, I could be theoretically be interested.

So, you're just a run-of-the-mill homophobe and a violent meathead, good to know. You: beating that gay guy if he wasn't physically assaulting you would be a hate-crime, and you should be punished/tried as such for it.

No one wants to suck your miracle dick and eat your holy-semen so badly either. get over yourself.

How is it homophobic to want my no respected?
I have nothing against gays, just leave me out of it.

Gingor #homophobia #transphobia reddit.com

Can you envision a world in which mtf crossdressing is normalized

No.
That'd be a horrifying world
. You couldn't look at a high-heeled short-skirted figure anymore and go "I'd tap that" because it could be a feminine man.
That's a terrible thought.

I have nothing against crossdressing, as long as it is done at home, with the curtains closed.

Yeah, but if most of society has a problem with a tiny minority (and let's be real, if only 3.8% of people are gay, there'd be way less than 10% crossdressers), it's the minority's problem, not the majority's.

That's a remarkably relativistic way of thinking about something as inane as wearing a skirt.

What problems, other than mild discomfort, would this cause the majority? And also, who claims the majority has a problem with it?

It's not "mild discomfort". I'm close to vomiting if I notice I was mistakenly attracted to a woman that turned out to be a guy.

It would also cause much awkwardness when you approach a woman based on the appearance of her behind and then notice you just hit on a guy.

And it could cause sexual confusion in teens, that are still looking for who they really are.

It's funny to me that you are touting age-old conservative dogma.

Cause sexual confusion in teens?

Seriously?

Yes.
I don't believe gays are born gay. I think they become gay through influences in their childhood and teens.
Now, being gay isn't bad, but only as long as there are still enough hetero couples to produce children. And if you do that and confuse younger people, that could end up making more people gay.

Let me get this straight:
You don't think gayness is innate. But you don't think being gay is wrong. However you think we should protect children from "gay influences" to assure that there enough hetero couples?
These are astoundingly irrational statements

Exactly.
I don't see the irrationality though.

Let me spell it out for you. You're contradicting yourself.

If there really is nothing wrong with being gay then you don't have to "protect" children from themselves.

You attach the most ridiculous rationalization to it: to further the human race.

This is so simple minded it is stunning

I have nothing against gays because they aren't hurting anybody. Have consensual sex with adults, I don't care who they are.
But the fact is that they do not contribute towards the continuation of the species.

As such, introducing major things that could cause confusion should be avoided.

Always vague fears and no real argument. What about progress and education and acceptance?

I'm all for those.
I accept gay people. I don't have anything against them. I don't think they should be killed, or converted, or whatever other stupid shit there is. Let them live their lifes and fuck other dudes or girls or whoever they want.
I just don't think that we should unnecessarily create more of them.

"Progress" is hard to define though. "Progress" towards what? One person's progress is another person's regression.


The cross-dressers can live their life in their homes if they want to.
Outside of that, society has certain standards of decency that you need to conform to and I'm grateful for them.

Your fears are very telling

I am not gay and I'm most definitely not a crossdresser and I'd appreciate it if you didn't insinuate it either.

Gingor #homophobia reddit.com

I don't think gay people should be raising children.

Not because I think they are more likely to be child molesters or any of that nonsense, I just don't believe that gay people are born gay. I think they turn gay through experiences while they are growing up and while I have nothing against gays, they can't naturally have children.
Since gay and straight people are otherwise the same, I don't think that an influx of gay children would be helpful.

Ohhiohyo #transphobia reddit.com

Dude, if she's lesbian but fell for a trans guy, she's at least bi. She could say she prefers women but he was an exception. But lesbians don't get attracted to guys unless they're not all lesbian, and same for gay guys being attracted to women. And cis or not, a guy is a guy and a girl is a girl. If you're lesbian and fell for an ftm, you aren't exclusively lesbian anymore


Lol “trans guys” are women why would that make her bi? The trans person in question isn’t even mimicking men that well either because OP knew their sex. It’s literally a women being attracted to a women.

There is a scale here though. I wouldn’t consider someone a straight man or lesbian if they wanted to sleep with buck angel for example. But if they’re sleeping with Kai Aiden from Tumblr who cut their hair short and that’s it? Yeah they probably look like a girl

I would if they were also only exclusively attracted to others of the same sex. Otherwise they are bi. I know a lesbian couple where one hormonally transitioned to “live as a man”. The partner who didn’t transition is still a lesbian.

Yeah I don’t agree that someone who likes people who are hormonally altered to look like men is exclusively into women

Being something and looking like something are different things.

RFANA #transphobia reddit.com

[ not: Buck Angel is a Trans man that has been on testosterone for years. ]


Someone in the thread linked a pic of Buck Angel and asked if straight men would be attracted to her. I mean, ya, if they are into masculine women, I would say yes. Obviously Buck presents in a very masculine coded way but she is still a woman. There’s no way to “look like a woman” other than having a vagina, so yes, if I saw a man with Buck I would call them straight. Buck does look like what people expect men to look like though so I can see how this could create social issues for a straight man. That is society’s problem

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